Re: Another "Women in Open Source" Session

2005-08-24 Thread Hanna M. Wallach
Hey Danese, > At the end one of the panelists proposed a general discussion list > about Women in Open Source and we asked for a show of hands and saw > 100% interest (about 200 people, including Larry Wall and other > prominent FOSS leaders). Still working out the best place to host > it, but we

Re: Another "Women in Open Source" Session

2005-08-17 Thread Bernhard Krieger
Gustavo Noronha Silva wrote: Em Sex, 2005-08-12 às 18:20 +0200, Jutta Wrage escreveu: Am 12.08.2005 um 13:56 schrieb Gustavo Noronha Silva: and witnessed some negative reaction to this study on the local linuxchix group. Did they think, the number was wrong? Or what was the neg

Re: Another "Women in Open Source" Session

2005-08-16 Thread Gustavo Noronha Silva
Em Sex, 2005-08-12 às 18:20 +0200, Jutta Wrage escreveu: > Am 12.08.2005 um 13:56 schrieb Gustavo Noronha Silva: > > > and witnessed some negative reaction to this study on the local > > linuxchix group. > > Did they think, the number was wrong? Or what was the negative > reaction about? Basic

Re: Another "Women in Open Source" Session

2005-08-12 Thread Bernhard Krieger
Thanks, Hannah, for adding FLOSS Asia and FLOSS US to it. I forgot. B. Hanna M. Wallach schrieb: As I understand it, the number is borne out in several studies. The number comes from the 2002, 2003 and 2004 FLOSS surveys, which took place in Maastricht [1]_, the US [2]_ and Asia [3]_, re

Re: Another "Women in Open Source" Session

2005-08-12 Thread Bernhard Krieger
Hey, Here are links the largest surveys on free software developers in 2001/2002: a) Widi survey carried out by the Technical University of Berlin in 2001 with 1.1 % women online on http://widi.berlios.de/paper/study.html b) FLOSS (Free/Libre/Open Source Software) developers´ survey undertake

Re: Another "Women in Open Source" Session

2005-08-12 Thread Hanna M. Wallach
> As I understand it, the number is borne out in several studies. The number comes from the 2002, 2003 and 2004 FLOSS surveys, which took place in Maastricht [1]_, the US [2]_ and Asia [3]_, respectively. The numbers are: 2002 Maastricht: 1.1% women (~2800 participants) 2003 US: 1.6% women (1493

Re: Another "Women in Open Source" Session

2005-08-12 Thread Jutta Wrage
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Re: Another "Women in Open Source" Session

2005-08-12 Thread Danese Cooper
I'm copying Bernhard Kreiger to comment on the research that backs up this number. As I understand it, the number is borne out in several studies. Danese On Aug 12, 2005, at 4:56 AM, Gustavo Noronha Silva wrote: Em Seg, 2005-08-08 às 16:00 -0400, Christine Spang escreveu: Neat! Looks lik

Re: Another "Women in Open Source" Session

2005-08-12 Thread Gustavo Noronha Silva
Em Seg, 2005-08-08 às 16:00 -0400, Christine Spang escreveu: > Neat! Looks like an article about the session made it into Newsforge[1], > with both you and DW mentioned. Do we have a press/articles section on > the site/wiki? Should we? > > Keep us in the loop about the Women in Open Source thing.

Re: Another "Women in Open Source" Session

2005-08-09 Thread Danese Cooper
Okay, sorry...late night @ LinuxWorld and I missed this going by...comments inline after DMC Danese On Aug 8, 2005, at 10:04 PM, Clytie Siddall wrote: On 09/08/2005, at 7:15 AM, Erinn Clark wrote: Could you explain what you meant in this comment: "It's the classic, 'Are we going to tal

Re: Another "Women in Open Source" Session

2005-08-08 Thread Clytie Siddall
On 09/08/2005, at 8:49 AM, Christine Spang wrote: I -knew- it sounded familiar. Now if only I would check, like, the front page before asking these things. At times like these, my husband always says, "Welcome to the human race." ;) And I throw things. from Clytie (vi-VN, Vietnamese fr

Re: Another "Women in Open Source" Session

2005-08-08 Thread Clytie Siddall
On 09/08/2005, at 7:15 AM, Erinn Clark wrote: Could you explain what you meant in this comment: "It's the classic, 'Are we going to talk about the relationship again?'" Cooper said in response to an audience question, prompting laughter and applause. "That's what Debian Women is about --

Media section (was: Re: Another "Women in Open Source" Session

2005-08-08 Thread Clytie Siddall
On 09/08/2005, at 5:30 AM, Christine Spang wrote: Neat! Looks like an article about the session made it into Newsforge [1], with both you and DW mentioned. Do we have a press/articles section on the site/wiki? Should we? Definitely. What other info do we have to collect there, so far? from

Re: Another "Women in Open Source" Session

2005-08-08 Thread Christine Spang
On Mon, 2005-08-08 at 16:56 -0400, Erinn Clark wrote: > > http://debianwomen.org/press/ > I -knew- it sounded familiar. Now if only I would check, like, the front page before asking these things. -- "All that glitters is not gold; not all those that wander are lost." J.R.R. Tolkien, Th

Re: Another "Women in Open Source" Session

2005-08-08 Thread Erinn Clark
* Danese Cooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005:08:07 15:47 -0700]: > It went pretty well :-). Room was full of supporters. I plugged the > success of Debian-Women a bit, so we might expect to see more > newbies. At the end one of the panelists proposed a general > discussion list about Women i

Re: Another "Women in Open Source" Session

2005-08-08 Thread Erinn Clark
* Christine Spang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005:08:08 16:00 -0400]: > Do we have a press/articles section on the site/wiki? Should we? http://debianwomen.org/press/ I'll commit the link to the newsforge article once I read it. -- off the chain like a rebellious guanine nucleotide -- To UNSUBSCR

Re: Another "Women in Open Source" Session

2005-08-08 Thread Christine Spang
On Sun, 2005-08-07 at 15:47 -0700, Danese Cooper wrote: > Hey Hanna, > > It went pretty well :-). Room was full of supporters. I plugged the > success of Debian-Women a bit, so we might expect to see more > newbies. At the end one of the panelists proposed a general > discussion list abou

Re: Another "Women in Open Source" Session

2005-08-07 Thread Clytie Siddall
On 08/08/2005, at 8:17 AM, Danese Cooper wrote: Unless you count the comment that the list should be called "Apache Squaws" :-). I like "Scalpers' Shortcuts" :D from Clytie (vi-VN, Vietnamese free-software translation team / nhóm Việt hóa phần mềm tự do) http://groups-beta.google.com/gr

Re: Another "Women in Open Source" Session

2005-08-07 Thread Danese Cooper
Hey Hanna, It went pretty well :-). Room was full of supporters. I plugged the success of Debian-Women a bit, so we might expect to see more newbies. At the end one of the panelists proposed a general discussion list about Women in Open Source and we asked for a show of hands and saw 1

Re: Another "Women in Open Source" Session

2005-08-06 Thread Hanna M. Wallach
On Thu, Jul 21, 2005 at 09:32:35AM -0700, Danese Cooper wrote: > I'm moderating a panel at OSCON called "Women in Open Source". How'd the panel go, Danese? -- hanna m. wallach blog: http://join-the-dots.org/ work: http://www.inference.phy.cam.ac.uk/hmw26/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL P

Re: Another "Women in Open Source" Session

2005-07-22 Thread Hanna M. Wallach
> I will definitely ask whether I can get a video. Usually they only > tape the "popular" sessions...we'll have to see if they can be > convinced :-). Since they *asked* for the session, perhaps won't be > too hard. That'd be great, Danese. Thanks so much for looking into this for us! -- hanna

Re: Another "Women in Open Source" Session

2005-07-22 Thread Bernhard Krieger
Dear all, Certainly I would want to have a tape run as well. Though we will have to make sure that all of the other speakers are fine with that, too. Bernhard Danese Cooper wrote: I will definitely ask whether I can get a video. Usually they only tape the "popular" sessions...we'll have to

Re: Another "Women in Open Source" Session

2005-07-22 Thread Danese Cooper
O'Reilly has their own standard release to make sure all parties agree, Bernhard. I'll work with them. Danese On 7/22/05, Bernhard Krieger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dear all, > > Certainly I would want to have a tape run as well. Though we will have > to make sure that all of the other speak

Re: Another "Women in Open Source" Session

2005-07-22 Thread Danese Cooper
I will definitely ask whether I can get a video. Usually they only tape the "popular" sessions...we'll have to see if they can be convinced :-). Since they *asked* for the session, perhaps won't be too hard. Danese On 7/21/05, Christian Perrier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Will the panel b

Re: Another 'Women in Open Source' Session

2005-07-22 Thread mrei0999
Hey Danese Great to see you on the list and thank you very much for the announcement! If you want you can also join us on #debian-women, that's usually the best way to get to know the other members. Best, Meike > Open Source Diva & New Debian Women list member ;-) Lovely! :D -- To UNSUBSCRI

Re: Another "Women in Open Source" Session

2005-07-21 Thread Christian Perrier
> Will the panel be recorded and, if so, will the recordings made > publically available? I'm not sure how many Debian Women members will > be at OSCON (not least because of the rather prohibitive registration Maybe Steve as this seems to happen in his place...but of course prohibitive registrati

Re: Another "Women in Open Source" Session

2005-07-21 Thread Clytie Siddall
On 22/07/2005, at 7:36 AM, Hanna M. Wallach wrote: Will the panel be recorded and, if so, will the recordings made publically available? I'm not sure how many Debian Women members will be at OSCON (not least because of the rather prohibitive registration cost), but I would certainly love to see

Re: Another "Women in Open Source" Session

2005-07-21 Thread Clytie Siddall
On 22/07/2005, at 2:02 AM, Danese Cooper wrote:Danese CooperOpen Source Diva & New Debian Women list member ;-)Welcome, Danese!!Your WOSS post was very interesting, and you are welcome for yourself. ;) from Clytie (vi-VN, Vietnamese free-software translation team / nhóm Việt hóa phần mềm tự do)http

Re: Another "Women in Open Source" Session

2005-07-21 Thread Hanna M. Wallach
Hi Danese! Welcome to the list! > This panel introduces you to five women who are working on the front > lines of the open source movement. Take this opportunity to learn > about the issues they encounter in the open source community. Thanks for letting Debian Women know about the OSCON panel. I

Another "Women in Open Source" Session

2005-07-21 Thread Danese Cooper
Hey DWs!I ran into Mieke at ApacheCon Europe (and so soon after DebConf) and mentioned that I'm moderating a panel at OSCON called "Women in Open Source".  I gave a similar panel at Grace Hopper Conference last year to a packed audience by the end of the talk.  That one was by request of the confer