let's not move backwards

I do not appreciate how — in my perception — the Geek Feminism Wiki ties us to a stone by keeping meticulous track of all the bad things, and giving them names. I don't think we need a central resource to help us prove that things have not always been ideal. I may very well be unable to ma

Re: Ada Lovelace Day - pledge

have to say that I wish I had organisational and leadership skills that came close to those of Marga. But I truly dislike separating according to genders. PS: someone once said just about anything you'd want to hear. -- .''`. martin f. krafft Related project

##debian-offtopic (was: Debian's Freenode IRC channels)

the meaning of ##, given that s/he does not (even) know that freenode is not Debian's official IRC network? (sorry for the late reply to this thread) -- .''`. martin f. krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' : proud Debian developer, author, administrator, and user `

Status of women in Debian

gain: that's d-w's achievement. PS: I had written "can anyone hook me up with a number of women involved…" and then decided that this could be misunderstood. :) -- .''`. martin f. krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' : proud Debian developer, author, ad

Re: DW dict?

Glossary and Dict. This does not really explain why there are 404 links on women.debian.org... > It is pretty much the same of the Debian Women: > > http://women.debian.org That's what I meant. -- .''`. martin f. krafft <[EMAIL PROTEC

Re: DW dict?

site design is beautiful. I saw it for the first time today. -- .''`. martin f. krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' : proud Debian developer, author, administrator, and user `. `'` http://people.debian.org/~madduck - http://debiansystem.info `- Debian - when you have

DW dict?

Hi, women.d.o links to http://women.debian.org/dicts, which is a 404. I loved the idea and would be really sad to see this project discontinued. Has it moved? What's the state? -- .''`. martin f. krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' : proud Debian developer, autho

fwd: [IP] It's arrived: the feminisation of the net

Thought this might be of interest to some. See attached. -- .''`. martin f. krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' : proud Debian developer, author, administrator, and user `. `'` http://people.debian.org/~madduck - http://debiansystem.info `- Debian - when you hav

Re: fedora women founded

do not send copies of list mail to me; I read the list! .''`. martin f. krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' :proud Debian developer and author: http://debiansystem.info `. `'` `- Debian - when you have better things to do than fixing a system http://www.vcnet.com/bms/ signature.asc Description: Digital signature (GPG/PGP)

Way to go, Debian! (was: Why does Ubuntu have all the ideas?)

ho care, I shall certainly blog about the interview once it's out, so follow Planet. I was given the chance to answer some really good questions. -- Please do not send copies of list mail to me; I read the list! .''`. martin f. krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :'

Re: Now for something really controversial...

also sprach martin f krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006.07.11.2254 +0200]: > Why not subversion? I've looked at many in detail and the final > round was between bzr, hg, git, and svn. bzr is too much in flux and > missed some features I'd like to see, hg and bzr will event

Re: Now for something really controversial...

t on with it, using SVN. -- Please do not send copies of list mail to me; I read the list! .''`. martin f. krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' :proud Debian developer and author: http://debiansystem.info `. `'` `- Debian - when you have better things to do than fixin

Re: Now for something really controversial...

archives, like svn:externals (this is not relevent to d-w). -- Please do not send copies of list mail to me; I read the list! .''`. martin f. krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' :proud Debian developer and author: http://debiansystem.info `. `'` `- Debian - when y

Re: Now for something really controversial...

n just works. -- Please do not send copies of list mail to me; I read the list! .''`. martin f. krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' :proud Debian developer and author: http://debiansystem.info `. `'` `- Debian - when you have better things to do than fixi

Re: IT screen goddesses

me we meet. :) -- Please do not send copies of list mail to me; I read the list! .''`. martin f. krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' :proud Debian developer and author: http://debiansystem.info `. `'` `- Debian - when you have better things to do than fixing

Re: Back to the group

also sprach Gaudenz Steinlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006.06.26.1433 +0200]: > me (This offer is also valid for all other debian-women). What, and not the men? :) -- Please do not send copies of list mail to me; I read the list! .''`. martin f. krafft <[EMAIL PROTEC

Re: Back to the group

. Finally, there's http://www.us.debian.org/devel/todo/ -- Please do not send copies of list mail to me; I read the list! .''`. martin f. krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' :proud Debian developer and author: http://debiansystem.info `. `'` `- Debian - when y

Re: "Men leaving Debian" - numbers?

e do not send copies of list mail to me; I read the list! .''`. martin f. krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' :proud Debian developer and author: http://debiansystem.info `. `'` `- Debian - when you have better things to do than fixing a system "wahnsin

Re: The influx of women and the outflux of men. The end of debian as a distro and it's emergance as a women's rights pulpit.

public or private as appropriate, or even flame them to hell, unless, of course, you'd like to handle that yourself. :) -- Please do not send copies of list mail to me; I read the list! .''`. martin f. krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' :proud Debian developer

Re: Debian women: please pass away.

is email with full headers to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . -- Please do not send copies of list mail to me; I read the list! .''`. martin f. krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' :proud Debian developer and author: http://debiansystem.info `. `'` `- Debian - when you h

Re: When are the Videos of DebConf6 availlable?

also sprach Michelle Konzack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006.05.26.1625 +0200]: > Since I want to know, whats going on on DebConf6, > I like to know, when are the Videos availlable? when they're ready. :) -- Please do not send copies of list mail to me; I read the list! .'&#

Re: Debian election on now

the number of women in the project may still be low, I bet some good argumentation can cause wonders and influence those who can vote... -- Please do not send copies of list mail to me; I read the list! .''`. martin f. krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' :

Re: IRC Python tutorial: Feb 4 or Feb 11

ence > material. Or to go to #debian-social for the tutorial. -- Please do not send copies of list mail to me; I read the list! .''`. martin f. krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' :proud Debian developer and author: http://debiansystem.info `. `'` `- Debian - w

Re: IRC Python tutorial: Feb 4 or Feb 11

#x27;ll be too difficult > for anyone to follow, including me), but that'll work out during the > session. Let's have a second channel for questions then. -- Please do not send copies of list mail to me; I read the list! .''`. martin f. krafft <[EMAIL PRO

Re: IRC Python tutorial: Feb 4 or Feb 11

27;ve been programming Python for about 6 years now and it's become my language of choice. -- Please do not send copies of list mail to me; I read the list! .''`. martin f. krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' :proud Debian developer and author: http://debiansystem

Re: DebConf6

ference? > > I guess we could hold that as an unofficial no-slides session, no need > to schedule a "Talk" for that. i *does* give a lot of visibility, but you have a good point, too. -- Please do not send copies of list mail to me; I read the list! .''`.

Re: DebConf6

Debian apart from integrating women more... and end with a session discussion future directions where DW could make a difference? -- Please do not send copies of list mail to me; I read the list! .''`. martin f. krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' :proud

Re: Article: Open-source needs more women developers

tional restriction that the sentence preceeding this one must appear somewhere close to it. :) -- Please do not send copies of list mail to me; I read the list! .''`. martin f. krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' :proud Debian developer and author: http://debiansystem.inf

Re: Some thoughts regarding DW

t or else I may miss it. 0. http://blog.madduck.net/debian/2004.08.14-arch-complexity-and-phd.html -- Please do not send copies of list mail to me; I read the list! .''`. martin f. krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' :proud Debian developer and author: http://deb

Re: Possible d-w project: handling/help DWN editor

ission and I waste my time? -- Please do not send copies of list mail to me; I read the list! .''`. martin f. krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' :proud Debian developer, admin, user, and author `. `'` `- Debian - when you have better things to do than fixing a system

Re: grepping memory

don't have the details. -- Please do not send copies of list mail to me; I read the list! .''`. martin f. krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' :proud Debian developer, admin, user, and author `. `'` `- Debian - when you have better things to do th

grepping memory (was: Re: Thank you for the software)

ern /proc/$PID/mem` *used* to work back when I needed it, now it just pretends there ain't no such process. No idea why. I haven't been keeping up with kernel development since 2.6 really. -- Please do not send copies of list mail to me; I read the list! .''`. martin f

Re: Thank you for the software

also sprach martin f krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005.06.19.1242 +0200]: > > IMO, it would've been absolutely sufficient for him to post just > > the link, without the leading blurb... > > wtf? Ha, what a dork. I thought Almut referred to his announcement of contribu

Re: Thank you for the software

also sprach Almut Behrens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005.06.19.0251 +0200]: > IMO, it would've been absolutely sufficient for him to post just > the link, without the leading blurb... wtf? -- Please do not send copies of list mail to me; I read the list! .''`.

Re: DW quotes

medium (from the "presence" perspective)! -- Please do not send copies of list mail to me; I read the list! .''`. martin f. krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' :proud Debian developer, admin, user, and author `. `'` `- Debian - when you have better thing

Re: DW quotes

ed naïvité is just not appropriate everywhere. *Please* don't anyone read this as an attack. -- Please do not send copies of list mail to me; I read the list! .''`. martin f. krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' :proud Debian developer, admin, user, and author `

Re: DW quotes

ren't. Including myself. -- Please do not send copies of list mail to me; I read the list! .''`. martin f. krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' :proud Debian developer, admin, user, and author `. `'` `- Debian - when you have better things to do than fixing a system

Re: DW quotes

e grownups should be able to just ignore that. -- Please do not send copies of list mail to me; I read the list! .''`. martin f. krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' :proud Debian developer, admin, user, and author `. `'` `- Debian - when you have better things to do tha

Re: DW quotes

vour has gained, and does so cautious not to make the rest of Debian look bad, everything should be hunky dory, at least from my perspective. -- Please do not send copies of list mail to me; I read the list! .''`. martin f. krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' :proud Debia

Re: DW quotes

ing, or rather the exception? -- Please do not send copies of list mail to me; I read the list! .''`. martin f. krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' :proud Debian developer, admin, user, and author `. `'` `- Debian - when you have better things to do than fixing a system

Re: DW quotes

eeep. wrong. I guess my point is that DW exists to lower the barrier of entry to women and men alike by fostering a friendly environment. Unless one has actually tried to join the active Debian community before DW and was hit straight in the face without it being well deserved, then I don'

Re: DW quotes

est shut up now. -- Please do not send copies of list mail to me; I read the list! .''`. martin f. krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' :proud Debian developer, admin, user, and author `. `'` `- Debian - when you have better things to do than fixing a system I

Re: DW quotes

e to do it right without assuming infinite tolerance from the side of the reader. So, Erinn, this is what you could put down for me... a learning experience. -- Please do not send copies of list mail to me; I read the list! .''`. martin f. krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :'

Re: DW quotes

ust wanted to utter this opinion. -- Please do not send copies of list mail to me; I read the list! .''`. martin f. krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' :proud Debian developer, admin, user, and author `. `'` `- Debian - when you have better things to do than

Re: DW quotes

ject per se. This is just my two cents. Please don't read criticism into this. I've tried to formulate it as diplomatic as possible, but I am running out of time. -- Please do not send copies of list mail to me; I read the list! .''`. martin f. krafft

Re: DW-Map

hat's my two cents. -- Please do not send copies of list mail to me; I read the list! .''`. martin f. krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' :proud Debian developer, admin, user, and author `. `'` `- Debian - when you have better things to do than fixing a system

Re: DW-Map

. Can I be added to the map? Note that this is more out of curiosity than real intention to be added to the map. -- Please do not send copies of list mail to me; I read the list! .''`. martin f. krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' :proud Debian developer, admin, use

Re: Getting involved

n the long run and add a little more structure, since flat wikis are just painful. -- Please do not send copies of list mail to me; I read the list! .''`. martin f. krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' :proud Debian developer, admin, user, and author `. `'` `- D

Re: gnu autotools

-maintainer-mode if you for some reason set > AM_MAINTAINER_MODE in configure.ac, which is certainly not a default. If you don't, the autotools won't be run by your Makefile, or will they? That's the whole point of maintainer mode, no? -- Please do not send copies of list mail to m

Re: gnu autotools

e after you run > ./configure and make. Iff you passed --enable-maintainer-mode -- Please do not send copies of list mail to me; I read the list! .''`. martin f. krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' :proud Debian developer, admin, user, and author `. `'` `- Deb

Re: Debconf5 accommodation

ike to join us? Debian Women, not Debian women? Well, that includes all of us, and I am tempted to beg for space, since you won't snore, and them male geeks will. :) (I don't snore) PS: no reply necessary, nor expected. ;^> -- Please do not send copies of list mail to me; I read the

Re: Cycle has entered sid

ase do not send copies of list mail to me; I read the list! .''`. martin f. krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' :proud Debian developer, admin, user, and author `. `'` `- Debian - when you have better things to do than fixing a system Invalid/expired PGP subkey

Re: Cycle has entered sid

ounts. fetchmail refuse to work, if it is world or group > readable. Do you know what a 'root' account is? -- Please do not send copies of list mail to me; I read the list! .''`. martin f. krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' :proud Debian developer,

Re: Cycle has entered sid

won't redesign because a jock like me rips apart the security assumptions of the programme. Cheers, -- Please do not send copies of list mail to me; I read the list! .''`. martin f. krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' :proud Debian developer, admin, user, an

Re: Cycle has entered sid

an your email and the like. Symmetric password encryption must die! -- Please do not send copies of list mail to me; I read the list! .''`. martin f. krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' :proud Debian developer, admin, user, and author `. `'` `- Debian - when you

Re: Cycle has entered sid

also sprach martin f krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005.04.16.1509 +0200]: > Urks, a GUI programme. Why don't people create command line tools > and put GUIs on top anymore??? What I actually meant is: why don't people create UI-agnostic cores anymore and make the UI a "

Re: Cycle has entered sid

cumbersome but works. Urks, a GUI programme. Why don't people create command line tools and put GUIs on top anymore??? -- Please do not send copies of list mail to me; I read the list! .''`. martin f. krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' :proud Debian developer, admi

Re: Cycle has entered sid

t-pill-tomorrow.sh Could this be integrated? If the functionality does not yet exist, please consider this a wishlist bug which I will gladly file. -- Please do not send copies of list mail to me; I read the list! .''`. martin f. krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' :

Re: Debian-Women webpage possibly filtered by Telefonica

; Paris or my ADSL Server in Strasbourg) Please send them to me. I can mirror them in neutral Switzerland. -- Please do not send copies of list mail to me; I read the list! .''`. martin f. krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' :proud Debian developer, admin, user, and aut

Re: Debian-Women webpage possibly filtered by Telefonica

english Available both in .de and .us. > <http://www.joevials.com/> english (some mirrors blocked in the USA) NXDOMAIN in .de, .ch, .se, .us, and .jp. So you are claiming it's blocked in all of these? -- Please do not send copies of list mail to me; I read the li

Re: Political climate of Debian

matter for the release manager to decide? -- Please do not send copies of list mail to me; I read the list! .''`. martin f. krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' :proud Debian developer, admin, user, and author `. `'` `- Debian - when you have better things to

Re: Debian-Women webpage possibly filtered by Telefonica

-- Please do not send copies of list mail to me; I read the list! .''`. martin f. krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' :proud Debian developer, admin, user, and author `. `'` `- Debian - when you have better things to do than fixing a system Invalid/ex

Re: Debian-Women webpage possibly filtered by Telefonica

e country at a whole. Or do you have evidence to support these claims? -- Please do not send copies of list mail to me; I read the list! .''`. martin f. krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' :proud Debian developer, admin, user, and author `. `'` `- Debian - whe

Re: OT: caesium

me; I read the list! .''`. martin f. krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' :proud Debian developer, admin, user, and author `. `'` `- Debian - when you have better things to do than fixing a system Invalid/expired PGP subkeys? Use subkeys.pgp.net as keyserver! #include signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: A song

ail to me; I read the list! .''`. martin f. krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' :proud Debian developer, admin, user, and author `. `'` `- Debian - when you have better things to do than fixing a system Invalid/expired PGP subkeys? Use subkeys.pgp.net as keyserver! infi

Re: A song

to me; I read the list! .''`. martin f. krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' :proud Debian developer, admin, user, and author `. `'` `- Debian - when you have better things to do than fixing a system Invalid/expired PGP subkeys? Use subkeys.pgp.net as keyserver!

Re: A song

x27;re not gonna? Scratch my application then. :) I thought Debconf in Hel was just a way to disguise saunas and Vodka! -- Please do not send copies of list mail to me; I read the list! .''`. martin f. krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' :proud Debian developer, admi

Re: A song

also sprach Almut Behrens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005.04.02.1423 +0200]: > Now, who's gonna write the music, sing those vocals and produce > an .ogg file? ;) Oh no, not again. :) -- Please do not send copies of list mail to me; I read the list! .''`. martin

OT: caesium (was: A song)

also sprach Christine Spang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005.04.02.1941 +0200]: > c.s.: caesium. reacts explosively with cold water. that's a euphemism. :) -- Please do not send copies of list mail to me; I read the list! .''`. martin f. krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTE

Re: RFD: Using Arch as revision control system for the website

rocks. -- Please do not send copies of list mail to me; I read the list! .''`. martin f. krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' :proud Debian developer, admin, user, and author `. `'` `- Debian - when you have better things to do than fixing a system Invalid/e

Re: Mentoring Feedback

list mail to me; I read the list! .''`. martin f. krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' :proud Debian developer, admin, user, and author `. `'` `- Debian - when you have better things to do than fixing a system Invalid/expired PGP subkeys? Use subkeys.pgp.net as k

Re: Mentoring Feedback

the best thing to do for you is to start with reading the Debian policy and understand every thing there is. When you are done, my book will be out, and it will do the rest. -- Please do not send copies of list mail to me; I read the list! .''`. martin f. krafft <[EMAIL PROT

Re: Mentoring Feedback

aking your own steps and asking specific questions to your mentor, or consult him/her for advice. -- Please do not send copies of list mail to me; I read the list! .''`. martin f. krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' :proud Debian developer, admin, user, and author `.

Re: Revamping the profiles page?

ryone supporting the ideals of Debian Women can be listed, independent of gender. -- Please do not send copies of list mail to me; I read the list! .''`. martin f. krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' :proud Debian developer, admin, user, and author `. `'` `-

Re: DPL and DW meeting conflict (was: Re: DPL debate 2005 [...])

o. Hopefully she will be feeling better soon. -- Please do not send copies of list mail to me; I read the list! .''`. martin f. krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' :proud Debian developer, admin, user, and author `. `'` `- Debian - when you have better thing

Re: DPL debate 2005: 19 March 2005, 23:00 UTC

be rescheduled? This is a one-time thing only anyway... -- Please do not send copies of list mail to me; I read the list! .''`. martin f. krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' :proud Debian developer, admin, user, and author `. `'` `- Debian - when you have bett