Re: Introduction

2008-12-27 Thread Aníbal Monsalve Salazar
On Sat, Dec 27, 2008 at 10:00:03PM -0400, Ben Armstrong wrote: >In particular, thanks Amaya and Miriam. You've forgotten Erinn (helix) Clark. :) Erinn and Amaya (together with the women who attended DebConf4 in Porto Alegre) started Debian Women in 2004. Erinn's talk in DebConf4 was very inpirat

Re: Introduction

2008-12-27 Thread Miriam Ruiz
2008/12/28 Ben Armstrong : > Hi, Hi Ben!! > For years my goal has been to make Debian desirable for my own kids who > now number four girls and one boy, and for families everywhere. Now > that my boy and half of my girls are teens, I would like to think all > of them could follow in their father

Re: "Debian women may leave due to 'sexist' post"

2008-12-27 Thread Miriam Ruiz
2008/12/27 Всеволод Величко : > Excuse me, you are against sexism, but what you mention is the same - > from the opposite side. That's the same "women's" sexism. If we should > respect women's rights, may be women should do the same? Otherwise it > looks very childish, sorry. Well, just to make i

Introduction

2008-12-27 Thread Ben Armstrong
Hi, For years my goal has been to make Debian desirable for my own kids who now number four girls and one boy, and for families everywhere. Now that my boy and half of my girls are teens, I would like to think all of them could follow in their father's footsteps and join Debian, should they want

Re: "Debian women may leave due to 'sexist' post"

2008-12-27 Thread Russell Coker
On Sunday 28 December 2008 12:30, "Всеволод Величко" wrote: > That message has been carbon-copied to debian-devel list. I'm not > reading debian-women list. You think, this discussion should take > place in d-d? I'm not sure. Did Lisi's message go to the debian-devel list? If so I didn't receiv

Re: "Debian women may leave due to 'sexist' post"

2008-12-27 Thread gregor herrmann
On Sun, 28 Dec 2008 09:11:22 +1100, Helen Faulkner wrote: > They were needed, successful, and are still making a > positive impact on Debian, in the existence of this mailing list and other > aspects of the Debian Women project. ack, and debian-women made and makes debian a better place, and not

Re: "Debian women may leave due to 'sexist' post"

2008-12-27 Thread Michael D. Norwick
Amaya wrote: Peter Tuhársky wrote: Saying that, I'm glad there are women in Debian community, although I don't fully understand their effort to maintain a special "Debian Women" community. There is no "Debian Men" community I know of, and Oh! Wait! What about the men! I think you lac

Re: "Debian women may leave due to 'sexist' post"

2008-12-27 Thread Stephen Gran
This one time, at band camp, Michael D. Norwick said: > Amaya wrote: > >Peter Tuhársky wrote: > > > > > Saying that, I'm glad there are women in Debian community, > > > although I don't fully understand their effort to maintain a > > > special "Debian Women" community. There is no "Debian Men" > >

Re: Duo Core processor 4Gb Ram laptop

2008-12-27 Thread Kevin Mark
On Sat, Dec 27, 2008 at 10:46:57PM +, Diana Scott wrote: > Hi > > I went to the sales earlier and noticed the latest laptops have Due Core > processor speed of 2Ghz with 4Gb RAM. I wonder what activities a laptop with > Duo Core or Centrino 2 with 4 Gb ram can achieve where a laptop with Centr

Re: "Debian women may leave due to 'sexist' post"

2008-12-27 Thread Russell Coker
On Sunday 28 December 2008 08:06, "Всеволод Величко" wrote: > > You are right, the images there might be offensive to you as a man. > > I am not sorry for that, sorry :) > > Excuse me, you are against sexism, but what you mention is the same - > from the opposite side. That's the same "women's" s

Duo Core processor 4Gb Ram laptop

2008-12-27 Thread Diana Scott
Hi I went to the sales earlier and noticed the latest laptops have Due Core processor speed of 2Ghz with 4Gb RAM. I wonder what activities a laptop with Duo Core or Centrino 2 with 4 Gb ram can achieve where a laptop with Centrino (Pentium M) 1.7

Re: "Debian women may leave due to 'sexist' post"

2008-12-27 Thread Russell Coker
On Sunday 28 December 2008 09:24, "Sam Kuper" wrote: > I think that if a Debian developer posted an off-topic message to the > mailing list in which people from Saint Helena were talked about in a > derogatory fashion, it would be reasonable for that to be regarded as > discriminatory, especially

Re: "Debian women may leave due to 'sexist' post"

2008-12-27 Thread Sam Kuper
2008/12/27 Всеволод Величко : > 2008/12/27 Amaya : >> When I reflected upon my need for approval, I also found my answer to >> the one million dollars question: Why are there so few women in >> computing? >> For me, the patriachy is an acceptable answer. Find your own, it is an >> enlightment trip,

Re: "Debian women may leave due to 'sexist' post"

2008-12-27 Thread Kevin Mark
On Sun, Dec 28, 2008 at 09:11:22AM +1100, Helen Faulkner wrote: > Amaya wrote: > > > My sorry attemps to get approval of our > > project from male developers can be found in the list archives and proof > > I had no idea what I was doing. > > The process of getting Debian Women going was certainly

Re: "Debian women may leave due to 'sexist' post"

2008-12-27 Thread Helen Faulkner
Amaya wrote: > My sorry attemps to get approval of our > project from male developers can be found in the list archives and proof > I had no idea what I was doing. The process of getting Debian Women going was certainly painful for those who were involved in the project very early on. But I woul

Re: "Debian women may leave due to 'sexist' post"

2008-12-27 Thread Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso
2008/12/27 Всеволод Величко : > Excuse me, you are against sexism, but what you mention is the same - > from the opposite side. That's the same "women's" sexism. If we should > respect women's rights, may be women should do the same? Otherwise it > looks very childish, sorry. Something a lot of pe

Re: "Debian women may leave due to 'sexist' post"

2008-12-27 Thread Всеволод Величко
Sorry me, community, I've missed first messages in the thread firstly. I also hope, that this idiotic discussion will be closed soon. -- Best wishes, Velichko Vsevolod -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-women-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...

Re: "Debian women may leave due to 'sexist' post"

2008-12-27 Thread Всеволод Величко
Hello. 2008/12/27 Amaya : > When I reflected upon my need for approval, I also found my answer to > the one million dollars question: Why are there so few women in > computing? > For me, the patriachy is an acceptable answer. Find your own, it is an > enlightment trip, and you do not need to aome

Re: wish

2008-12-27 Thread Amaya
Happy winter solstice (atheist) :) -- ·''`.There's no arguing with Nature. : :' :Promises comfort fools. `. `'All work and no play, makes Jack a dull boy. `- Proudly running Debian GNU/Linux -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, e

Re: "Debian women may leave due to 'sexist' post"

2008-12-27 Thread Amaya
Peter Tuhársky wrote: > Saying that, I'm glad there are women in Debian community, although I > don't fully understand their effort to maintain a special "Debian > Women" community. There is no "Debian Men" community I know of, and Oh! Wait! What about the men! I think you lack some perspective.