Re: Question to all: Outreach

2020-03-17 Thread Ulrike Uhlig
Hi! On 17.03.20 17:32, Hector Oron wrote: > Debian Outreach [...] > thas been a quite expensive to run for the real > benefit provided to Debian project. The questions you ask seem to rely on this observation of yours, that I find a little bit overly suggestive: - How do you measure benefit?

Re: Question to all: Outreach

2020-03-17 Thread Ulrike Uhlig
Hi, (I have no idea if I am allowed to reply to this, or if only DPL candidates are supposed to reply. Hence forgive me if I'm overstepping a boundary here. Please tell me if that is the case by the way.) On 17.03.20 21:07, Hector Oron wrote: > Missatge de Ulrike Uhlig del dia dt., 17

Re: Question to all: Outreach

2020-03-18 Thread Ulrike Uhlig
Hi! @JonathanCarter: thank you very much for encouraging us to continue this discussion here :) On 18.03.20 10:35, Martin Michlmayr wrote: > * John Paul Adrian Glaubitz [2020-03-18 10:26]: >>> As a former Outreachy intern myself (2015) I can tell you that it the >>> stipend has helped me to inve

Re: Question to all: Outreach

2020-03-18 Thread Ulrike Uhlig
@JPA, On 18.03.20 12:01, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > On 3/18/20 10:58 AM, Jonathan Carter wrote: > Why is it fair to support a woman in a rich first-world country but not > the poor boy in the streets of Delhi? Quoting Outreachy: "We expressly invite women (both cis and trans), trans men

Re: Question to all: Outreach

2020-03-18 Thread Ulrike Uhlig
Hi all, On 18.03.20 13:36, Pranav Jain wrote: > On Wed, Mar 18, 2020 at 5:58 PM Sruthi Chandran wrote: >> On 18/03/20 4:06 pm, Ulrike Uhlig wrote: >>> The fact that we don't know this might hint at the need of having a >>> feedback process for Outreach in De

Re: Q to all candidates: NEW queue

2020-03-27 Thread Ulrike Uhlig
Hi! On 26.03.20 15:05, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > On 26/03/20 at 14:42 +0100, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > A/ > - package is uploaded > - package waits in NEW > - package gets reviewed, gets accepted in unstable with a bug filed > - bug gets fixed > > B/ > - package is uploaded > - package gets accept

Re: Q to all candidates: NEW queue

2020-03-27 Thread Ulrike Uhlig
Hi, On 27.03.20 09:32, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > Quoting Ulrike Uhlig (2020-03-27 09:22:46) >> Another question is: what other things are reviewed by the FTP team? >> Like, is there some sort of basic security review, are there packages >> that are not appropriate to be up

Re: How to leverage money to accomplish high impact Debian projects

2021-03-19 Thread Ulrike Uhlig
Hello, as said in private some time ago to Raphaël, I find Freexian's initiative great, and I wish there were more options to get paid to do Debian work. On 19.03.21 11:29, Enrico Zini wrote: On Thu, Mar 18, 2021 at 09:16:15PM +0200, Jonathan Carter wrote: I don't think that lack of intere

Re: Willingness to share a position statement?

2021-03-25 Thread Ulrike Uhlig
Hi! On 25.03.21 21:18, Gerardo Ballabio wrote: Steve McIntyre wrote: Do we really have to go through this argument *again*? Freedom of speech does *not* mean freedom from consequences. The point is who decides what the consequences are. That should be up to the legal system, not to some ra

Re: Willingness to share a position statement?

2021-03-26 Thread Ulrike Uhlig
On 26.03.21 10:05, Gerardo Ballabio wrote: Steve McIntyre wrote: We *entirely* have the freedom to discriminate based on what people say and do around us. We're not a government. So only governments should not discriminate people? Try a simple thought experiment: if you think that only th

Re: Willingness to share a position statement?

2021-03-27 Thread Ulrike Uhlig
Hello, On 26.03.21 23:12, Gerardo Ballabio wrote: Ulrike Uhlig wrote: That said, let's escalate your example a bit "Escalate a bit" is quite an understatement, as you turned it into an example of criminal behavior. I'm just showing you the limits of what you call "

Re: "rms-open-letter" choice 3: do not, as the project itself, sign any letter regarding rms

2021-03-27 Thread Ulrike Uhlig
Hi On 27.03.21 14:01, Kurt Roeckx wrote: On Sat, Mar 27, 2021 at 01:56:08PM +0100, Timo Weingärtner wrote: 27.03.21 13:03 Kurt Roeckx: I've added this option on the website. I'm still processing emails. Note that it's my interpretation that if changes are accepts that there is no need to seco

Re: The "RMS Open Letter" is based on lies, misrepresentations, and misinformation

2021-03-27 Thread Ulrike Uhlig
Hello, On 26.03.21 15:08, Ximin Luo wrote: Does anyone have a response to this? I had no intention to reply to this email, but as you insist: in my opinion RedHat's statement captures things well enough( https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/red-hat-statement-about-richard-stallmans-return-free-sof

Re: opinion on Choice 1

2021-03-29 Thread Ulrike Uhlig
Hi, On 28.03.21 17:35, Ivan Shmakov wrote: Sorry for my ignorance, but who are you? I cannot find your name in the Debian contributor list. Best Ulrike

Re: opinion on Choice 1

2021-03-29 Thread Ulrike Uhlig
Hi! On 29.03.21 14:17, Milan Kupcevic wrote: On 3/29/21 4:58 AM, Ulrike Uhlig wrote: [...] Sorry for my ignorance, but who are you? I cannot find your name in the Debian contributor list. Your contributions to Debian [0][1][2][3] are very welcome. Do not get discouraged by ignorant people

Re: opinion on Choice 1

2021-03-30 Thread Ulrike Uhlig
Hello, On 29.03.21 20:37, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: Quoting Ulrike Uhlig (2021-03-29 10:58:13) Sorry for my ignorance, but who are you? I cannot find your name in the Debian contributor list. Sorry for my ignorance, but who are you to ask that? I cannot your name in the Debian mailinglist

Re: Cancel "culture" is a threat to Debian

2021-04-01 Thread Ulrike Uhlig
Sergey, On 01.04.21 15:24, Sergey B Kirpichev wrote: You're making a good cause to make the lists read-only for non-members I'm trying to argue my position, instead of long reasonings about feelings of my opponents and so on. Is that wrong for the Debian now? To what goal are you trying to

Fears Re: Cancel "culture" is a threat to Debian

2021-04-01 Thread Ulrike Uhlig
Hello, On 01.04.21 15:52, Pasha wrote: On Thu, 2021-04-01 at 15:38 +0200, Ulrike Uhlig wrote: Goals might evolve. It's also called "growing up". Now, if you tell me the goal of Debian changed from free OS to something else - it is not the reason I am using Debian. Did I sa

Re: Secret ballot and RMS Resolution

2021-04-01 Thread Ulrike Uhlig
Hello, On 01.04.21 20:08, Bart Martens wrote: On Thu, Apr 01, 2021 at 05:00:47PM +0200, Kurt Roeckx wrote: The constitution says: 3. Votes are taken by the Project Secretary. Votes, tallies, and results are not revealed during the voting period; after the vote the Project S

Proposal to take the discussion elsewhere Re: opinion on Choice 1

2021-04-06 Thread Ulrike Uhlig
Hi peb, I think it's time to stop this thread here and now. If people want to discuss factually, and empathically if it's helpful for the project to make certain lists read-only for non Debian members, I think that's a valuable discussion to have, but not here (better on -private or on -proje

Please let this thread go extinct.

2021-04-08 Thread Ulrike Uhlig
There seem to be a bunch of subjects that are weighing heavily on people's shoulders. If anyone here is *truly interested* in a _constructive_ discussion I'm happy to help find a discussion moderation / mediation for you. If not, please go troll / deal with your anger elsewhere. Greetings, U

Re: Please let this thread go extinct.

2021-04-08 Thread Ulrike Uhlig
On 08.04.21 15:24, Ulrike Uhlig wrote: There seem to be a bunch of subjects that are weighing heavily on people's shoulders. If anyone here is *truly interested* in a _constructive_ discussion I'm happy to help find a discussion moderation / mediation for you. If not, please go tr

Re: Please let this thread go extinct.

2021-04-09 Thread Ulrike Uhlig
Hi, On 09.04.21 03:08, Norbert Preining wrote: Please let this thread go extinct. Isn't it easy to try to make a thread go extinct when the perpetrator is on "your side", while writing again and again when it is the other way round. Very impressed by your "fairness" and "inclusiveness". I'm

Re: Making the RMS resolution a Secret Ballot

2021-04-09 Thread Ulrike Uhlig
Hi! On 09.04.21 20:08, Kurt Roeckx wrote: On Fri, Apr 09, 2021 at 10:59:16AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: * A secret ballot, while contrary to the constitution for GRs, is not wholly irregular for the project. We use one every year for the DPL election and the tradeoffs are well-understoo

Re: Making the RMS resolution a Secret Ballot

2021-04-10 Thread Ulrike Uhlig
Hi! On 10.04.21 15:33, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote: Le vendredi, 9 avril 2021, 19.12:26 h CEST Sam Hartman a écrit : I don't think changing our 25+ years worth of GR practice (and GR tradition) *right in the middle of a vote* will do any good; not internally, and not externally. Do I think we

Re: Privacy guarantees

2021-09-10 Thread Ulrike Uhlig
Hi! On 10.09.21 19:10, Russ Allbery wrote: Felix Lechner writes: The Policy Team was similarly reluctant. They have not acted on the matter in nearly eight years. [3] In the interim, one path forward would be for someone who cares strongly about this area to write up a good guide for maint

Re: Renaming the FTP Masters

2021-11-05 Thread Ulrike Uhlig
Hi! On 05.11.21 15:23, Gard Spreemann wrote:> Felix Lechner writes: I'm a native German speaker and "Führer" is widely and completely uncontroversially used in German in lots of contexts That is, as you noted, somewhat true for the word "master" as well, but your portrayal of a wide and uneq

off-topic Re: Renaming the FTP Masters

2021-11-05 Thread Ulrike Uhlig
Hi, On 05.11.21 16:11, Ulrike Uhlig wrote: On 05.11.21 15:23, Gard Spreemann wrote:> Felix Lechner writes: Please note that in the former GDR, which seems to be a part of the rest of Germany nowadays, even though income maps seem to indicate otherwise [1], the word "Führ