On Wed, 30 Nov 2005, Debian Project Secretary wrote:
Propose that the Debian project resolve that the process
defined in the Proposal will be applied only for the future
content of debian-private mailing list.
I for myself see no real technical benefit in publishing the ar
On Tue, 13 Mar 2007, Pierre Habouzit wrote:
Well, I've read Frans post with a lot of interest, and it seemed to be
a quite good rewording of Sam's platform :)
Well, sure. Sam and Gustavo are at my favourite places. ;-))
Perhaps I should not have used an "if there would be any" if I know
the
On Tue, 13 Mar 2007, Frans Pop wrote:
[quoting http://lists.debian.org/debian-project/2007/03/msg00062.html ]
...
IMO setting up an RT system will not fundamentally solve any of this, but
will at most make it more manageable. The only way to solve this is by
having new blood in the teams, peopl
Hi,
just a very ruogh idea (I never dived into the theory of voting)
which IMHO sounds apropriate for our case. At first we need
a set of volunteer candidates. Let's assume we have ten
candidates for a team of seven people: A, B, ... J.
Now let people do a negative selection and vota "against"
c
2007/11/17, Anthony Towns <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> I don't think there's anything to be done until the technical things are
> solved. Demonstrating that a DM keyring can be maintained by a team would
> be helpful to show that the DD keyring can be maintained by a team, but we
> haven't done that yet.
2007/11/19, Anthony Towns <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> On Sun, Nov 18, 2007 at 11:16:59PM +0100, Andreas Tille wrote:
> > I completely disagree that the personal preference of a programming
> > language should dictate the technical means we should choose. I'm
> > really
2007/11/20, Anthony Towns <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> No, I _am_ really happy that you can't write something in PL/I and force me
> to use it. Trust me on this.
Well, I trust you on this. ;-) (BTW, PL/I is not bad - it was my first
programming
language and had some nice features.) What is wrong is the
2007/11/21, Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Your message has inspired me. I'm sending this email to let you know that,
> since I see an open bug on the fortunes-de package, it's my conclusion that
> you need more help maintaining it, so Adam Conrad and I are working on an
> updated version t
Hi,
Am Fri, Mar 08, 2024 at 09:24:15PM +0100 schrieb Debian Project Secretary -
Kurt Roeckx:
> The new project leader term starts on 2024-04-21. The time line
> looks like:
>
> | Period | Start | End |
> |+-+---|
> |
Hi Thomas,
Am Sun, Mar 10, 2024 at 05:36:57PM +0200 schrieb Thomas Koch:
> A question to DPL candidates
>
> It seems (to me?) that more and more areas of our lives become political and
> controversies on such topics more aggressive. Or people stop talking with
> each other.
I share this observ
Hi Gerardo,
Am Tue, Mar 19, 2024 at 09:38:26AM +0100 schrieb Gerardo Ballabio:
> Andreas Tille wrote:
> > > How would you as a DPL try to lead a community that focuses on producing
> > > a great distribution without getting divided on controversial topics?
> >
> &g
Hi Paulo,
I'm changing the subject to match the content of your question.
Am Tue, Mar 19, 2024 at 04:01:12PM -0300 schrieb Paulo Henrique de Lima Santana:
> In your page, you wrote:
>
> "I would encourage everyone to minimize air travel whenever possible.
> Fortunately, I've noticed a tendency a
Hi Nilesh,
Am Fri, Mar 22, 2024 at 09:23:12AM +0530 schrieb Nilesh Patra:
> I am interested in knowing about what the current candidates think about
> accounting bits in Debian and how they think about spending the money.
I admit my knowledge about how Debian money is spent is currently low
and i
Hi Joost,
Am Fri, Mar 22, 2024 at 06:51:48AM +0100 schrieb Joost van Baal-Ilić:
> There has been discussion of having one new legal entity representing
> the Debian project worldwide. What are the candidates opinions on that?
Could you please add some pointers to recent discussions about this.
I
Hi Nilesh,
Am Fri, Mar 22, 2024 at 03:47:08PM +0530 schrieb Nilesh Patra:
> I have worked with both Andreas and Sruthi in some capacity in different teams
I'm hereby use the chance to thank you again for your great work
increasing my personal time for other things quite a lot. ;-)
> so I have so
Hi Nilesh,
Am Tue, Mar 26, 2024 at 12:26:00AM +0530 schrieb Nilesh Patra:
> It is no secret that most (probably all?) teams (delegated and otherwise
> packaging/developer teams) in Debian struggle with limited
> developer time and almost everything in Debian needs help.
> In quite a few teams that
Hi Thomas,
Am Wed, Mar 27, 2024 at 12:24:30AM +0100 schrieb Thomas Goirand:
> As you know, there's a large amount of money sleeping in SPI account for
> Debian. Do you have ideas on how to spend it?
While I admit that I'm not well informed about the status of the acount
currently I'm perfectly op
Hi Roberto,
Am Wed, Mar 27, 2024 at 08:26:06PM -0400 schrieb Roberto C. Sánchez:
> QUESTION TO THE CANDIDATES: what are your quantitative diversity goals
> and metrics, and what are the rationales behind those goals and metrics?
>
> Some context:
> ...
> In the last GR there were 1004 voting DDs.
Hi Robert,
Am Thu, Mar 28, 2024 at 07:30:51AM -0400 schrieb Roberto C. Sánchez:
> ...
> In any event, rather than infer what you might believe, I thought it
> more respectful and helpful to ask you give some insight into how you
> shaped your view so that those who consider voting for you might
>
Hi Salvo,
Am Fri, Mar 29, 2024 at 09:49:24AM +0100 schrieb Salvo Tomaselli:
> I am also the original author of packages, and since I am told that salsa is
> only for debian and upstream projects are not supposed to be there, for me it
> is easier to keep packaging and development on a single rep
Hi Louis-Philippe,
Am Fri, Mar 29, 2024 at 02:41:44PM -0400 schrieb Louis-Philippe Véronneau:
> We're getting a little sidetracked here, but that's not the case:
While its sidetracked from the original question I'm happy that this
came up here and I learned two good arguments (from Russ and yours
Hi Soren,
Am Fri, Mar 29, 2024 at 01:00:36PM -0700 schrieb Soren Stoutner:
> Personally, I am one of only two Debian Developers that I know of living in
> Arizona. So, from a local geographic diversity perspective, I would like to
> see a few more Debian Developers that I could meet up with fac
Am Fri, Mar 29, 2024 at 02:10:07PM -0700 schrieb Soren Stoutner:
> Does anyone have a link to the information Margerita shared or information
> from other sources about the number of women contributing to Debian compared
> to Free Software in general? Having specific numbers is a helpful first s
Hi Lous-Philippe,
Am Tue, Apr 02, 2024 at 04:05:21PM -0400 schrieb Louis-Philippe Véronneau:
> Jonathan's latest "Bits from the DPL" entry reminded me of how much I like
> those :)
>
> What are your thoughts on the format?
>
> If you are elected, do you plan to publish regular "Bits"? If not, ho
Hi Marc,
Am Tue, Apr 02, 2024 at 10:12:56PM +0200 schrieb Marc Haber:
> There are many people who see Debian as a technology project, with the
> technical goal of producing The Universal Operating System.
>
> What are you planning to do to Debian from a technical and technological
> point of view
Hi Marc,
Am Wed, Apr 03, 2024 at 05:53:46PM +0200 schrieb Marc Haber:
> On Wed, Apr 03, 2024 at 10:37:37AM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote:
> > I see a big problem that we do not follow common standards. While we
> > have some teams with strict policies setting those standards inte
ong I need to wait for
your OK to a team upload I'm proposing below. I'm perfectly aware that
we as volunteers can't be blamed about those things. I simply want to
find new ways how to deal with those situations appropriately.
Am Thu, Apr 04, 2024 at 12:38:34PM +0200 schrieb Andrea
Hi Luca,
Am Thu, Apr 04, 2024 at 12:47:11PM +0100 schrieb Luca Boccassi:
> > As far as I know other major distributions do not undertake the time_t
> > 64bit transition (whether this marks leadership or not is questionable
> > but it will make us the leading distribution on those architectures in
Hi Scott,
Am Thu, Apr 04, 2024 at 12:42:11PM + schrieb Scott Kitterman:
> I'm interested to understand what you think this has to do with the DPL
> election or the role of the DPL within the project?
I would like to learn what options I have to realise paragraph
Packaging standards
of m
Am Thu, Apr 04, 2024 at 01:04:49PM + schrieb Holger Levsen:
> On Thu, Apr 04, 2024 at 02:59:34PM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote:
> > I would like to learn what options I have to realise paragraph
> >Packaging standards
> > of my platform.
>
> I also think this f
Hi,
Am Thu, Apr 04, 2024 at 09:55:33PM +0100 schrieb Luca Boccassi:
> On Thu, 4 Apr 2024 at 21:30, Salvo Tomaselli wrote:
> >
> > > In practical terms, it would probably be made easier if it was
> > > mandatory for all packages to be on Salsa, either in the 'debian'
> > > namespace or in a team n
Am Thu, Apr 04, 2024 at 02:41:00PM +0100 schrieb Luca Boccassi:
> > Please don't get me wrong: I do not consider Fedora a commercial
> > entity. I simply subscribe the statement that we are facing some
> > problems in Debian since we are not a commercial entity.
>
> I think the framing is slight
Am Fri, Apr 05, 2024 at 09:55:56AM + schrieb Holger Levsen:
> On Thu, Apr 04, 2024 at 02:32:45PM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote:
> > [...] I could follow the normal NMU procedure but I do not consider
> > this a sustainable solution.
> [...]
> > I did not uploaded my
Hi Tobias,
Am Thu, Apr 04, 2024 at 07:59:56PM +0200 schrieb Tobias Frost:
>
> There is the possilbity to salavage the packagei [1], but that of course will
> only work if the person agrees to take over maintainance and add their name to
> Uploaders: or Maintainer: [2].
I want to be able to imme
Hi Lucas,
Am Fri, Apr 05, 2024 at 08:56:42AM +0200 schrieb Lucas Nussbaum:
> Hi Andreas,
>
> In your platform and answers to questions here, I feel that you mainly
> focus on the visible side of Debian for the public, that is, the
> distribution we produce.
>
> However, the role of the DPL is a
Hi Adrian,
Am Fri, Apr 05, 2024 at 12:41:17AM +0300 schrieb Adrian Bunk:
> this email has two parts:
> A short question where I would appreciate a "yes" or "no" answer from
> all candidates, and a longer explanation what and why I am asking.
>
>
> Question:
>
> If elected, will you commit to h
Hi Scott,
Am Thu, Apr 04, 2024 at 01:12:45PM + schrieb Scott Kitterman:
> On April 4, 2024 12:59:34 PM UTC, Andreas Tille wrote:
> >I would like to learn what options I have to realise paragraph
> >
> > Packaging standards
> >
> >of my platform.
>
>
Hi Santiago,
Am Fri, Apr 05, 2024 at 03:21:48PM -0300 schrieb santiago:
> ...
> Non-commercial FLOSS products/projects do not have to comply with CRA.
> However, I think there could be an impact in the industry regarding the
> adoption and use of Debian.
>
> What are you thoughts on the subject?
Hi Holger,
Am Fri, Apr 05, 2024 at 10:42:35AM + schrieb Holger Levsen:
> On Fri, Apr 05, 2024 at 12:26:03PM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote:
> > > also: (NMU-)uploads to DELAYED/15 are great.
> > Sorry, I do not feel my time well spent on just curing a symptom
> > (unfixed
Hi,
on debian-private which I can't quote here I was asked, whether I would
continue 'going for forced “team” maintenance'. My answer was as
following:
I stick to the sentence of my platform: 'If you think single
maintainership of packages is the right way to cope with future problems
for Debian
Hi again,
Am Sat, Apr 06, 2024 at 09:26:25AM +0200 schrieb Tobias Frost:
> > I want to be able to immediately respond to future problems in this
> > package. I'm fine with putting Debian Med team as maintainer, but not
> > my personal ID (maximum as Uploader since I do not have any personal
> > p
Am Thu, Apr 04, 2024 at 10:14:59AM -0700 schrieb Soren Stoutner:
> On Thursday, April 4, 2024 5:32:45 AM MST Andreas Tille wrote:
> >[ ] Its not acceptable, don't do that
> >[ ] We should discuss this on debian-devel, possibly do some GR
> >before thin
Hi,
thanks to all for this GR. I like tag2upload in principle. The only
thing I'm a bit scared about is that it simplifies uploading something
that was never built before on the local machine. Sure, this can be
done with source-only uploads as well, but tag2upload makes it even
easier.
Maybe I
Hi Sean,
Am Thu, Jun 13, 2024 at 04:53:56PM +0800 schrieb Sean Whitton:
> > thanks to all for this GR. I like tag2upload in principle. The only
> > thing I'm a bit scared about is that it simplifies uploading something
> > that was never built before on the local machine. Sure, this can be
> >
Hi Ian,
Am Thu, Jun 13, 2024 at 12:47:35PM +0100 schrieb Ian Jackson:
> Andreas Tille writes ("Re: [RFC] General Resolution to deploy tag2upload"):
> > That means some package build process is done before the source
> > package is forwarded to dak and sends some e-mail
Hi Russ,
Am Thu, Jun 13, 2024 at 01:54:16PM -0700 schrieb Russ Allbery:
>
> It would be nice to not do this on the tag2upload server, though, to
> maintain some security separation.
ACK.
> Given all of that, I think it would be more promising to look into a
> deeper integration with Salsa to c
Hi,
just a question which I hope was not addressed before in this long
thread I have no chance to follow completely. If it was just answered
simply point me to the archive (or alternatively the tag2uplod doc is
its described there): In many teams we keep the metadata about the
orig.tar.$COMPRESS
Hi folks,
answering to some "random" mail in this thread since I do not manage to
follow everything. My pragmatic thought when browsing my malbox is that
I'm honestly wondering how many source packages the contributors in this
thread could have created manually in the time that was used to write
Hi Matthias,
Am Wed, Jun 26, 2024 at 03:25:34PM +0200 schrieb Matthias Urlichs:
> You can feed hashes of the offenders to "git filter-repo
> --strip-blobs-with-ids ‹filename›". This operation is idempotent and
> deterministic.
>
> If we add these hashes to a file, let's say d/source/dfsg-filtered
On Tue, 24 Feb 2004, Debian Project Secretary wrote:
>Seconds: 1. Scott James Remnant [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> The next release of Debian will not be accompanied by a
> non-free
> section; there will be no more stable releases of the non-free
>
Hi,
this morning I wrote in private to the DPL candidates but tbm asked me to
foreward my questions to debian-vote which I'm doing hereby ...
Here are my questions:
1. My concern is to propagate Custom Debian Distributions because
I think we should set a stronger focus to the end user. I
On Tue, 2 Mar 2004, Martin Michlmayr wrote:
> I think James is an excellent contributor to the project. I know him
> personally, and I can assure you that he is not on a power trip. He
> ...
Well thanks for the clarification. I just want to make sure that this
explanation is given to _everyone_
On Wed, 3 Mar 2004, Branden Robinson wrote
[ Sorry if I do not answer right inside the thread but the "Reply to"
links in the webform do not work as expected and I did not subscribed
to the list. Please CC me, if you want to avoid this.]
> I'm not sure I can give you the kind of answer you'r
On 8 Mar 2001, Acting Debian Project Secretary wrote:
> NOTES:
>
> [*] You must email your ballot from your debian.org email address.
Hmmm, that might be the problem why my first E-Mail was rejected.
But is this really necessary? All my E-Mail addresses are assigned
to the key inside the debian
On Tue, 24 Feb 2004, Debian Project Secretary wrote:
>Seconds: 1. Scott James Remnant [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> The next release of Debian will not be accompanied by a non-free
> section; there will be no more stable releases of the non-free
> s
Hi,
this morning I wrote in private to the DPL candidates but tbm asked me to
foreward my questions to debian-vote which I'm doing hereby ...
Here are my questions:
1. My concern is to propagate Custom Debian Distributions because
I think we should set a stronger focus to the end user. I
On Tue, 2 Mar 2004, Martin Michlmayr wrote:
> I think James is an excellent contributor to the project. I know him
> personally, and I can assure you that he is not on a power trip. He
> ...
Well thanks for the clarification. I just want to make sure that this
explanation is given to _everyone_
On Wed, 3 Mar 2004, Branden Robinson wrote
[ Sorry if I do not answer right inside the thread but the "Reply to"
links in the webform do not work as expected and I did not subscribed
to the list. Please CC me, if you want to avoid this.]
> I'm not sure I can give you the kind of answer you'r
Hi,
as you can read in my lightning talk at DebConf
http://people.debian.org/~tille/talks/200808_lightning/
I did some investigation on who is frequently posting
on our mailing lists. I now created graphs until
end of last year and write a short summary for
those lists I regard worth a comme
Hi to all brave candidates,
thanks to you all to volunteer for the DPL job. I wish you all good luck
for the elections and the future DPL my best wishes.
Recently I've read the article "Winding down my Debian involvement" from
Michael Stapelberg[1]. I consider that article an interesting readin
Hi Sam,
thanks a lot for your fast reply.
On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 06:17:00AM -0400, Sam Hartman wrote:
> I have read it as well.
(I forgot to mention that Martin has obviously read it since it was
even linked in his platform. :-) )
> ...
> I am disappointed when people leave bitter and dishear
Hi Joerg,
On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 04:17:51PM +0100, Joerg Jaspert wrote:
> More unification
> in central parts, with the biggest part being packaging, is better.
That's actually my point.
> OTOH we need to stay open for enhancing things. So while I am a fan of
> "dh for everyone, throw away all
On Wed, 20 Mar 2019 Martin Michlmayr wrote:
> At the very least, we should find out why people don't use standard
> tooling like debhelper, improve these tools and nudge people towards
> them.
How would you approach this nudging?
> We should definitely recommend it. The question is whether we sh
On Wed, 20 Mar 2019 Martin Michlmayr wrote:
> (I haven't looked at rsync and this is a general reply.)
>
> First, find out *why* it's non-standard. Mabye there are good
> technical reasons. If so, solutions can be found (e.g. improvements
> to debhelper). Maybe it's a case of "it works" and the
On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 11:13:58PM +0200, Jonathan Carter wrote:
> I'm sorry if that's not the answer you were looking for, but that's how
> I generally feel about it.
I wasn't looking for specific answers. I was just interested in your
opinion. ;-)
There are different kind of texts in this direc
Hi Lucas,
On Thu, Mar 21, 2019 at 09:14:09AM +0100, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
> On 21/03/19 at 08:38 +0100, Andreas Tille wrote:
> >
> > I do not want to turn this into a cdbs to dh flamewar.
May be I failed despite (or because??) I stated it explicitly?
I've set "Repl
Hi,
+1 for the suggestion of Lucas
-1 for discussing this on debian-vote making it hard to find later
Reply-To set to debian-devel.
Kind regards
Andreas.
On Thu, Mar 21, 2019 at 06:21:15PM +0100, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
> On 21/03/19 at 16:52 +, Ian Jackson wrote:
> > Joerg Jaspert wri
So you really insist in hiding this interesting topic on debian-vote
rather to switch to debian-devel?
Reply-To was set again to debian-devel ...
On Fri, Mar 22, 2019 at 09:32:55AM +0100, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
> On 21/03/19 at 18:57 +0100, Joerg Jaspert wrote:
> > Also, it will be a drastical chan
Hi Jonathan,
[sorry for frequently breaking the thread - I'm answering to web-archive]
On Wed, 20 Mar 2019 Jonathan Dowland wrote:
> Imagine you had a team that,
> within the team, had standardised on (say) SVN and cdbs. Whenever that
> team picked up a new package, they then used SVN and cdbs fo
Hi Michael,
On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 10:43:06PM +0100, Michael Stapelberg wrote:
> The rsync discussion happened in private mail, so there’s no paper trail of
> that, sorry.
>
> I did supply a patch, as described in the article, and the maintainer
> refused it.
BTW, this is a good example that it
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On Fri, 25 Jun 2004, Debian Project Secretary wrote:
> -=-=-=-=-=- Don't Delete Anything Between These Lines =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
> [ ] Choice 1: Postpone changes until September 2004 [needs 3:1]
> [ ] Choice 2: Postpone changes until Sarge releases
On Tue, 13 Jul 2004, Josselin Mouette wrote:
> recognizing that the AMD64-based architectures are likely to become the
> most widespread on personal computers and workstations in a near future,
Well, this is kind of to strong wording. I'd replace "most widespread"
by "common" - which is important
On Thu, 12 Oct 2000, Hamish Moffatt wrote:
> two real results:
> * keep non-free,
> * remove non-free
IMHO this should be offered to a vote-ballot:
[ ] keep non-free,
[ ] remove non-free
Just mark what you want.
I can't imagine why whe don't say clearly what the thing is.
Jus
On 8 Mar 2001, Acting Debian Project Secretary wrote:
> NOTES:
>
> [*] You must email your ballot from your debian.org email address.
Hmmm, that might be the problem why my first E-Mail was rejected.
But is this really necessary? All my E-Mail addresses are assigned
to the key inside the debian
On Thu, 12 Oct 2000, Hamish Moffatt wrote:
> two real results:
> * keep non-free,
> * remove non-free
IMHO this should be offered to a vote-ballot:
[ ] keep non-free,
[ ] remove non-free
Just mark what you want.
I can't imagine why whe don't say clearly what the thing is.
Ju
Hi Kurt,
Am Sat, Mar 08, 2025 at 11:26:41AM +0100 schrieb Debian Project Secretary -
Kurt Roeckx:
> Please make sure that nominations are sent to (or cc:'d to)
> debian-vote, and are cryptographically signed.
I'd like to nominate myself for another term and appreciate anyone else
stepping forwa
Hi,
Am Sun, Mar 16, 2025 at 03:31:26PM -0400 schrieb M. Zhou:
> I noticed that a half of the nominees mentioned strengthening the
> collaboration between Debian/Ubuntu.
Although I belong to "the other half," I'd still like to share my
perspective.
I personally have never had a reason to work on
Hi Hector,
First of all, thank you to you and the other treasurers for carrying out
such high-responsibility work that our common project depends on. Your
efforts are highly appreciated, and I'm grateful that others take on
this role, as I personally would not volunteer for it.
Am Sun, Mar 16, 20
Dear Jonathan,
Am Mon, Mar 17, 2025 at 03:01:38PM +0200 schrieb Jonathan Carter:
> 3. DebConf
>
> DebConf is great. I hate the process of getting a visa to travel (often at
> least a whole day's worth of admin), and I don't like airports or travel by
> plane (which is usually at least two days in
Dear Jonathan,
this is my last chunk of answers where I'm basically bundling question
topic 4. and 5.
Am Mon, Mar 17, 2025 at 03:01:38PM +0200 schrieb Jonathan Carter:
> 4. Installation media
>
> It's amazing how much Linux distributions offer in the variations of
> installation media (like ISO
Dear Jonathan,
Am Mon, Mar 17, 2025 at 03:01:38PM +0200 schrieb Jonathan Carter:
> Firstly, thanks for stepping up for running for DPL.
Says someone who's been serving for four terms in a row. ;-)
(And I'd like to take this chance to thank you for that as well.)
Thank you for your many questions
Dear Jonathan,
I'm continuing with your next set of questions for the topic VCS.
You can find my answer about the Community team question here[1].
> 2. VCS
>
> Salsa has been stable for a number of years now, and git is clearly a good
> choice of default VCS (even though not perfect or preferred
Hi Julian,
Am Wed, Mar 19, 2025 at 05:10:01PM +0100 schrieb Julian Andres Klode:
>
> No, git-ubuntu imports the unapplied tree, roughly similar to what
> gbp import-dsc would do.
What will happen if a package has Vcs fields set to Salsa when using
git-ubuntu? Is it just cloning the Salsa reposi
Hi Jonas,
[just following a hint from Sam Hartman to use top posting in such
kind of discussions]
Please take my deliberate silence as a signal that, as a potential DPL,
I am not willing to reinforce a pattern that has been frequently
criticized. However, I am happy to answer any explicit question
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