Re: Debian Maintainers GR Proposal

2007-06-23 Thread Steve Langasek
On Fri, Jun 22, 2007 at 05:52:49PM +0200, Thijs Kinkhorst wrote: > On Friday 22 June 2007 16:50, Steve Langasek wrote: > > Not for the benefit of that developer, but for our benefit. I have no fear > > at all of Matthew Garrett doing an incompetent job of preparing packages; > > why should we make

Re: Debian Maintainers GR Proposal

2007-06-23 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Fri, 22 Jun 2007, Gerfried Fuchs wrote: > Am I the only one feeling uncomfortable with people who would like to > upload packages to our pool that don't understand and agree with our > goals? Am I the only one feeling uncomfortable with creating a status > for people without a certain level of

Re: Debian Maintainers GR Proposal

2007-06-23 Thread Guilherme de S. Pastore
Em Sex, 2007-06-22 às 17:52 +0200, Thijs Kinkhorst escreveu: > They are in NM, so have the intention to become a DD soon. If I did not completely fail to understand the proposal, it is not only about people in NM willing to become DDs. As previously mentioned, being a Debian Developer involves ver

Re: Debian Maintainers GR Proposal

2007-06-23 Thread Pierre Habouzit
On Sat, Jun 23, 2007 at 12:40:43PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: > So in the end, I see the DM concept as an opportunity to strenghen the > training and mentoring aspect of the NM process, Maybe that's why I differ. NM is not a training staging area. Sponsoring is supposed to come first, hence pa

Re: Debian Maintainers GR Proposal

2007-06-23 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
On 23/06/07 at 13:43 +0100, Pierre Habouzit wrote: > AM delays > ~ > For the former, well, if it's because of the NM taking too much time, > the AM usually put their applicant on hold. That works (IMHO) quite > fine, and is not a problem. OTOH AM being to slow is one, and happens. I > thi

Re: Debian Maintainers GR Proposal

2007-06-23 Thread Pierre Habouzit
On Sat, Jun 23, 2007 at 03:16:46PM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > On 23/06/07 at 13:43 +0100, Pierre Habouzit wrote: > > AM delays > > ~ > > For the former, well, if it's because of the NM taking too much time, > > the AM usually put their applicant on hold. That works (IMHO) quite > > fi

Re: Debian Maintainers GR Proposal

2007-06-23 Thread Anthony Towns
On Sat, Jun 23, 2007 at 01:43:03PM +0100, Pierre Habouzit wrote: > Upload rights > ~ > With those two previous points in place, I still think that DM has one > idea right: give upload rights early. [...] > So I also think that the jetring idea has to be explored and > implemented fo

Re: Debian Maintainers GR Proposal

2007-06-23 Thread Pierre Habouzit
On Thu, Jun 21, 2007 at 02:50:59PM +0100, Anthony Towns wrote: > Hey all, > > So here's a proposal for the Debian Maintainers idea that's been floating > around for some time now [0]. Before pushing the DM proposal, I'd like that some more attempts to fix NM have been done. I mean, for about 2 y

Re: Debian Maintainers GR Proposal

2007-06-23 Thread Bastian Venthur
On 23.06.2007 14:43 schrieb Pierre Habouzit: > DAM delays > ~~ > > This part can IMHO be improved a lot as well. I _think_ DAM could > decide to process applicants at given dates, in a predictable way. I > mean, DAM could decide to process applicants every 2 or 3 months[0]. > That would

Re: Debian Maintainers GR Proposal

2007-06-23 Thread Benjamin BAYART
Le Thu, Jun 21, 2007 at 02:50:59PM +0100, Anthony Towns: > > So here's a proposal for the Debian Maintainers idea that's been floating > around for some time now [0]. I've drafted it while lying in bed in > the Budget Backpackers before wandering up to debconf, so it's just my > take on things, an

Re: Debian Maintainers GR Proposal

2007-06-23 Thread Joey Schulze
Benjamin BAYART wrote: > Raphael did kindly give me a pointer to your running discussions, which > is of interest for me, since I'm one of the potential "DM" in a near > future, and I wanted to give my point of view on that topic, and to give > a few comments on the text. Thanks for your mail. >

Re: Debian Maintainers GR Proposal

2007-06-23 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Sat, 23 Jun 2007, Joey Schulze wrote: > > 15 months, while with DM, it would have been only few days... > > No. You won't be able to fix it unless you have become a DM with > exactly the dvidvi package and thus are allowed to upload a fixed > version. Otherwise you aren't and need to go throu