On 23.06.2007 14:43 schrieb Pierre Habouzit: > DAM delays > ~~~~~~~~~~ > > This part can IMHO be improved a lot as well. I _think_ DAM could > decide to process applicants at given dates, in a predictable way. I > mean, DAM could decide to process applicants every 2 or 3 months[0]. > That would give the NMs some deadlines, and this helps a lot with > frustration. > > Yes, I know we are volunteers, and that it's not acceptable to have > requirements on _people_. Though I find it completely acceptable, and > even sound to have requirements on our Core Teams. And their members are > free to organize the team to cope with them how they want. And if the > Team can't cope, then maybe it's that it's too small. And here is the > second benefit of the method: it not only gives deadlines to the people > waiting in the queue, it also helps detecting an overloaded team.
I agree. > Upload rights > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > With those two previous points in place, I still think that DM has one > idea right: give upload rights early. It's good because if NM is not a > learning area for packaging stuff, before NM you never uploaded to > Debian, and many NMs are quite frightened by their first upload ever. > Having a smooth transition from the Sponsoree state to the full DD one, > through a period where you are allowed to upload some of your packages > with very lessoverview from your sponsor (but him still being aware and > watching behind the scenes) IS excellent. > > So I also think that the jetring idea has to be explored and > implemented for those people, that have P&P right, until they are full > DDs. I agree here too. I'd rather see NMs getting upload rights after a certain point in their NM career, than introducing the DM class. After all, the arguments for the new DM class convince me more and more that it's a bad idea to introduce them [1]. We should try to fix the bottlenecks in our NM process and allow NMs to upload sooner. If someone would write a GR proposal, I'd second it. 1. I can't understand why people want to maintain packages but don't want to become DDs: - Having to wait very long in the NM isn't an argument anymore once the sooner upload rights are enabled. - If someone doesn't want to become a DD since he doesn't agree with our philosophical stuff, that I think he shouldn't be allowed to upload at all. - If they don't want to become DD since they fear the extra responsibility, I still disagree since there aren't any new duties as a DD just a few more rights. Cheers, Bastian -- Bastian Venthur http://venthur.de Debian Developer venthur at debian org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
