Re: Questions for all candidates: decentralization of power

2010-04-01 Thread Joerg Jaspert
> I also think that we need to review the NEW uploads. But this is not what I > discuss here. I propose to let all DDs look what is in the NEW queue. (This > would of course help to review the NEW uploads). If there is ever any legal "fun" around this, it is a *HUGE* difference if you can say "On

Re: Questions for all candidates: decentralization of power

2010-04-01 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Thu, Apr 01, 2010 at 11:53:47AM -0400, Mike O'Connor a écrit : > > It doesn't take long processing NEW to realize that many DDs cannot be > trusted to make sure that all of the code they are uploading is legally > redistributable. I also think that we need to review the NEW uploads. But this i

Re: Questions for all candidates: decentralization of power

2010-04-01 Thread Mike O'Connor
On Thu, Apr 01, 2010 at 01:45:45PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: > If it is not an export or a license violation that a member of the FTP team > inspects a package, then I do not think it is for any other member of the > project. I am not proposing to give a read access to the NEW queue for any > ot

Re: Questions for all candidates: decentralization of power

2010-03-31 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 11:24:50PM -0400, Mike O'Connor a écrit : > > The issue I was talking about had nothing to do with software crossing > state lines. It had to do with violating license agreements. I'm not > familiar with any procedures we must do before exporting software that > you are a

Re: Questions for all candidates: decentralization of power

2010-03-31 Thread Mike O'Connor
On Thu, Apr 01, 2010 at 10:58:07AM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: > Hi Mike, > > you give three interesting examples on how the FTP team is isolating itself. > > > 1) By a combination of (self-appointed?) authority and technical design, the > package section splitting becomes a private tool of the

Re: Questions for all candidates: decentralization of power

2010-03-31 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 12:00:05PM -0400, Mike O'Connor a écrit : > > You do get to choose the priority and section which your packages belong > to, though the ftp team can override your choice. When we do override > your choice, you get an email inviting discussion about it. I can't > think of

Re: Questions for all candidates: decentralization of power

2010-03-31 Thread Mike O'Connor
On Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 12:46:44AM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: > Dear Clint, > > I also think that there are many restricted operations that should be opened. > Write access to our website, chosing the priority and section of our pacakges, > triggering bin-NMUs, designating new members, inspectin

Re: Questions for all candidates: decentralization of power

2010-03-30 Thread Clint Adams
On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 04:42:22PM -0300, Margarita Manterola wrote: > whoever is delegated by the DPL to do this) goes around imposing > members to teams, or switching members willy-nilly, it would > definitely lead to a lot of frustration and resignations. I think that's probably fine. ftpmaste

Re: Questions for all candidates: decentralization of power

2010-03-29 Thread Russ Allbery
Clint Adams writes: > Well, in the paid employment part of my life, I have been put in > positions where I have needed to work with people I disliked, and it is > not considered professional to refuse on those grounds. In Debian I > receive bug reports from people I might dislike, but I treat th

Re: Questions for all candidates: decentralization of power

2010-03-29 Thread Margarita Manterola
On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 3:41 PM, Clint Adams wrote: > Well, in the paid employment part of my life, I have been put in > positions where I have needed to work with people I disliked, and > it is not considered professional to refuse on those grounds. Indeed, I guess most of us have gone through

Re: Questions for all candidates: decentralization of power

2010-03-28 Thread Clint Adams
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 01:51:45PM -0300, Margarita Manterola wrote: > I'd very much like to know how _you_ think that it should be done, > because even if I don't like the "We have to like you in order for you > to work with us" clause, I don't think it would be productive if the > DPL, or someone

Re: Questions for all candidates: decentralization of power

2010-03-24 Thread Margarita Manterola
Hi! On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 3:44 PM, Clint Adams wrote: > 5) Is there any part of Debian that should be restricted > to a small subset of developers, and if so why? So, I've taken quite a while to ponder about these questions, particularly this last one. Several people have already replied wit

Re: Questions for all candidates: decentralization of power

2010-03-24 Thread Andreas Barth
* Wouter Verhelst (wou...@debian.org) [100319 22:57]: > On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 10:36:53PM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > > On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 06:44:23PM +, Clint Adams wrote: > > > Is there any legitimate reason that wanna-build access should be > > > restricted to any group smaller than

Re: Questions for all candidates: decentralization of power

2010-03-20 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 05:59:35PM +0100, Jan Hauke Rahm a écrit : > > I'm not sure I understand you correctly here. Are you saying that you will > -- if elected DPL -- suggest the current members of the technical comittee > to step back just for the sake of having new people in their seats? Le S

Re: Questions for all candidates: decentralization of power

2010-03-20 Thread Frans Pop
Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > [ Disclaimer: I don't know the technical setup of www.d.o, so I don't > know if there is a different between commit time and publish time. > Until I fix this ignorance of mine, that would surely block me from > committing, for instance :-) ] No, there is not. The websit

Re: Questions for all candidates: decentralization of power

2010-03-20 Thread Russ Allbery
Charles Plessy writes: > Lastly, I think that we need some referees for our technical > disagreements, and the technical comittee fits well that role. If I am > elected DPL, I will ping its members and ask them if they would like to > leave their seat to fresh persons. I'm a little bit confused

Re: Questions for all candidates: decentralization of power

2010-03-20 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 06:44:23PM +, Clint Adams wrote: > I had meant to send three sets of questions on Thursday morning, but > things kept coming up, so I will send an unfinished one now. Well, thanks anyhow, this is a heck of a question! I start answering by exposing what I think should b

Re: Questions for all candidates: decentralization of power

2010-03-20 Thread Jan Hauke Rahm
Hi Charles, Am Sa, 20.03.2010, 16:46, schrieb Charles Plessy: > Lastly, I think that we need some referees for our technical > disagreements, and the technical comittee fits well that role. If I am > elected DPL, I will ping its members and ask them if they would like to > leave their seat to fres

Re: Questions for all candidates: decentralization of power

2010-03-20 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 06:44:23PM +, Clint Adams a écrit : > I had meant to send three sets of questions on Thursday morning, > but things kept coming up, so I will send an unfinished one now. > > 1) 114 people have commit access to webwml. > 2) wanna-build access is restricted > 3) An ftpmas

Re: Questions for all candidates: decentralization of power

2010-03-20 Thread Frans Pop
On Saturday 20 March 2010, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > It is of course reasonable to require that people familiarize themselves > with how things are set up before being given access. But beyond that, > if they are Debian Developers, getting access to the webwml repository > is a no-brainer, AIUI. > >

Re: Questions for all candidates: decentralization of power

2010-03-20 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 11:29:30PM +0100, Frans Pop wrote: > Wouter Verhelst wrote: > >> 1) 114 people have commit access to webwml. Given that version > >> control makes it easy to undo changes, minimizing risk and > >> impact, are there any legitimate reasons why this repository > >> should be r

Re: Questions for all candidates: decentralization of power

2010-03-19 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
On 19/03/10 at 22:57 +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 10:36:53PM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > > On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 06:44:23PM +, Clint Adams wrote: > > > Is there any legitimate reason that wanna-build access should be > > > restricted to any group smaller than th

Re: Questions for all candidates: decentralization of power

2010-03-19 Thread Frans Pop
Wouter Verhelst wrote: >> 1) 114 people have commit access to webwml. Given that version >> control makes it easy to undo changes, minimizing risk and >> impact, are there any legitimate reasons why this repository >> should be restricted to a group any smaller than the whole of >> gid 800? > > N

Re: Questions for all candidates: decentralization of power

2010-03-19 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 10:36:53PM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 06:44:23PM +, Clint Adams wrote: > > Is there any legitimate reason that wanna-build access should be > > restricted to any group smaller than the entirety of gid 800 > > membership? > > There was. [...s

Re: Questions for all candidates: decentralization of power

2010-03-19 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 06:44:23PM +, Clint Adams wrote: > I had meant to send three sets of questions on Thursday morning, > but things kept coming up, so I will send an unfinished one now. > > 1) 114 people have commit access to webwml. Given that version > control makes it easy to undo cha

Re: Questions for all candidates: decentralization of power

2010-03-19 Thread Don Armstrong
On Fri, 19 Mar 2010, Clint Adams wrote: > 4) The tech-ctte has the power to appoint its own members. I do not > know why they should be allowed to self-manage when their judgment > on the issues raised to them has often been less-than-stellar. [...] If there are decisions which are less-than-stell

Questions for all candidates: decentralization of power

2010-03-19 Thread Clint Adams
I had meant to send three sets of questions on Thursday morning, but things kept coming up, so I will send an unfinished one now. 1) 114 people have commit access to webwml. Given that version control makes it easy to undo changes, minimizing risk and impact, are there any legitimate reasons why

Re: Questions for all candidates about developer behavior and abuse

2006-03-15 Thread Anthony Towns
On Thu, Mar 09, 2006 at 03:33:23PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > On Tue, Mar 07, 2006 at 04:53:40PM -0500, Andres Salomon wrote: > > At what point does a Debian Developer's behavior cross the line from > > annoying to destructive? At what point should the Developer be removed > > from the project

Re: (For SteveM) Re: Questions for all candidates about developer behavior and abuse

2006-03-14 Thread Steve McIntyre
On Thu, Mar 09, 2006 at 06:53:34PM -0800, Ted Walther wrote: >On Fri, Mar 10, 2006 at 02:00:22AM +, Steve McIntyre wrote: >>On Tue, Mar 07, 2006 at 04:53:40PM -0500, Andres Salomon wrote: >>>At what point does a Debian Developer's behavior cross the line from >>>annoying to destructive? At wha

Re: Reply to Fabian Fagerholm from Ted (Re: Questions for all candidates: the DPL as a creator of public opinion)

2006-03-13 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sun, Mar 12, 2006 at 01:01:16PM -0800, Ted Walther wrote: > Debian "feels" less libertarian now than it did eight years ago. Back > in the day, it was unheard of for Debian Developers to be banished from > Debian's mailing lists and official IRC channels just because of a > personals political

Re: Reply to Fabian Fagerholm from Ted (Re: Questions for all candidates: the DPL as a creator of public opinion)

2006-03-12 Thread David Nusinow
On Sun, Mar 12, 2006 at 06:05:52PM -0800, Ted Walther wrote: > On Sun, Mar 12, 2006 at 04:23:36PM -0500, David Nusinow wrote: > >On Sun, Mar 12, 2006 at 01:01:16PM -0800, Ted Walther wrote: > >>Debian is very much affected by the FOSS world in general. The > >>biggest example I can think of is the

Re: Reply to Fabian Fagerholm from Ted (Re: Questions for all candidates: the DPL as a creator of public opinion)

2006-03-12 Thread Ted Walther
On Sun, Mar 12, 2006 at 04:23:36PM -0500, David Nusinow wrote: On Sun, Mar 12, 2006 at 01:01:16PM -0800, Ted Walther wrote: Debian is very much affected by the FOSS world in general. The biggest example I can think of is the patent regulations that were used to attack the free mp3 encoding prog

Re: Reply to Fabian Fagerholm from Ted (Re: Questions for all candidates: the DPL as a creator of public opinion)

2006-03-12 Thread David Nusinow
On Sun, Mar 12, 2006 at 01:01:16PM -0800, Ted Walther wrote: > Debian is very much affected by the FOSS world in general. The biggest > example I can think of is the patent regulations that were used to > attack the free mp3 encoding programs. Because of that patent threat, > Debian is very caref

Reply to Fabian Fagerholm from Ted (Re: Questions for all candidates: the DPL as a creator of public opinion)

2006-03-12 Thread Ted Walther
On Sun, Mar 05, 2006 at 10:45:47PM +0200, Fabian Fagerholm wrote: 1. Is Debian affected by what happens in the FOSS world in general? How? Please give examples if you can. Debian is very much affected by the FOSS world in general. The biggest example I can think of is the patent regul

Re: Questions for all candidates: plurality of mandates

2006-03-11 Thread Jeroen van Wolffelaar
On Wed, Mar 08, 2006 at 11:45:44AM +0100, Mohammed Adnène Trojette wrote: > Do you think Debian should *officially* limit the number of delegations > for one person? No, there is no useful limit, if anything, it should be case-by-case. > Do you consider this "multiple hat" question a problem? No

Re: Questions for all candidates: plurality of mandates

2006-03-10 Thread Anthony Towns
On Fri, Mar 10, 2006 at 10:43:20PM +0100, Martin Schulze wrote: > I must not do that. Being a system administrator is not a green light > for hacking in arbitrary services maintained by another team or > person. This has been a rule for Debian admin for a long time and it > actually grants that t

Re: Questions for all candidates: plurality of mandates

2006-03-10 Thread Martin Schulze
Anthony Towns wrote: > More generally, Joey's a member of DSA and as such has root on > security-master.d.o; if he really wanted to he could maintain the dak > install there (or an entirely different system) himself for security I must not do that. Being a system administrator is not a green ligh

Re: Questions for all candidates: plurality of mandates

2006-03-10 Thread Anthony Towns
On Fri, Mar 10, 2006 at 08:35:30PM +1100, Hamish Moffatt wrote: > On Wed, Mar 08, 2006 at 11:45:44AM +0100, Mohammed Adn?ne Trojette wrote: > > I read in Anthony's mail[0]: > > "ftpmaster work requires a different set of skills to release management > > though, and frankly Joey's already got enough

Re: Questions for all candidates: plurality of mandates

2006-03-10 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Wed, Mar 08, 2006 at 11:45:44AM +0100, Mohammed Adnène Trojette wrote: > I read in Anthony's mail[0]: > > "ftpmaster work requires a different set of skills to release management > though, and frankly Joey's already got enough stuff to do, without > worrying about the nuts and bolts of the dak

Re: Questions for all candidates: plurality of mandates

2006-03-09 Thread Steve McIntyre
On Wed, Mar 08, 2006 at 11:45:44AM +0100, Mohammed Adnène Trojette wrote: > >Questions for all candidates: > >In the Debian project, some people run many functions because they are >very competent and have free time to help on many different fronts. > >The obvious consequence

(For SteveM) Re: Questions for all candidates about developer behavior and abuse

2006-03-09 Thread Ted Walther
On Fri, Mar 10, 2006 at 02:00:22AM +, Steve McIntyre wrote: On Tue, Mar 07, 2006 at 04:53:40PM -0500, Andres Salomon wrote: At what point does a Debian Developer's behavior cross the line from annoying to destructive? At what point should the Developer be removed from the project (key remov

Re: Questions for all candidates about developer behavior and abuse

2006-03-09 Thread Steve McIntyre
On Tue, Mar 07, 2006 at 04:53:40PM -0500, Andres Salomon wrote: >Hi, > >At what point does a Debian Developer's behavior cross the line from >annoying to destructive? At what point should the Developer be removed >from the project (key removed from keyring, alioth account disabled, and >blackliste

Re: Questions for all candidates about developer behavior and abuse

2006-03-08 Thread Anthony Towns
On Tue, Mar 07, 2006 at 04:53:40PM -0500, Andres Salomon wrote: > At what point does a Debian Developer's behavior cross the line from > annoying to destructive? At what point should the Developer be removed > from the project [...] I tend to think crossing the line once should result in polite c

Re: Questions for all candidates about developer behavior and abuse

2006-03-08 Thread Eduard Bloch
#include * Andres Salomon [Tue, Mar 07 2006, 04:53:40PM]: > The reason for my question? > > jonas: i hope we never again meet in public, because i promise i > will hit you if i do. A-Ha. Let's buy them two boxing sets and popcorn for the rest of us. Eduard. -- anyone from the MIA team aroun

Questions for all candidates: plurality of mandates

2006-03-08 Thread Mohammed Adnène Trojette
[Don't Cc: me, I read the list] Questions for all candidates: In the Debian project, some people run many functions because they are very competent and have free time to help on many different fronts. The obvious consequence is a concentration of powers which is dangerous when those people

Questions for all candidates about developer behavior and abuse

2006-03-07 Thread Andres Salomon
Hi, At what point does a Debian Developer's behavior cross the line from annoying to destructive? At what point should the Developer be removed from the project (key removed from keyring, alioth account disabled, and blacklisted from mailing lists and the bts)? As DPL, how would you go about the

Re: Questions for all candidates: role models

2006-03-07 Thread Martin Michlmayr
* Jutta Wrage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-03-07 20:58]: > More important for Debian were his posts to -announce and his > visibility outside Debian than those in -private. FWIW, the DPL cannot post to -announce and most suggestions for announcement I made were rejected by our press guy. (e.g. whe

Re: Questions for all candidates: role models

2006-03-07 Thread Jutta Wrage
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am 02.03.2006 um 13:38 schrieb Anthony Towns: people knew Debian was exciting and growing thanks to his posts to -announce and -private when interesting things happened; More important for Debian were his posts to -announce and his visibility o

Re: Questions for all candidates: the DPL as a creator of public opinion

2006-03-06 Thread Anthony Towns
On Sun, Mar 05, 2006 at 10:45:47PM +0200, Fabian Fagerholm wrote: > The DPL is described as a representative of Debian to the general > public, and as a vision-definer inside the Debian Project. I wouldn't say "vision-definer" -- the DPL lead's discussion, and may summarise it afterwards, but act

Questions for all candidates: the DPL as a creator of public opinion

2006-03-05 Thread Fabian Fagerholm
Hi, The DPL is described as a representative of Debian to the general public, and as a vision-definer inside the Debian Project. Also, the DPL is given the responsibility of "building good relationships with other organizations and companies". [0] Currently, the FOSS world is facing major challen

Re: Questions for all candidates: role models part two

2006-03-05 Thread Andreas Schuldei
* Clint Adams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-03-02 09:35:11]: > In the context of the Debian community, do you feel that you are > currently a good role model? There are different roles in Debian. As a normal code writing or packaging developer, I could do better. As someone furthering Debian, both te

Re: Questions for all candidates: role models part two

2006-03-03 Thread Jeroen van Wolffelaar
On Thu, Mar 02, 2006 at 09:35:11AM -0500, Clint Adams wrote: > In the context of the Debian community, do you feel that you are > currently a good role model? Pretty decent. I prefer to work on cool projects, to scratch my itches, I tell my friends how good Debian is, and I try to not participate

Re: Questions for all candidates: role models

2006-03-03 Thread Jeroen van Wolffelaar
On Wed, Mar 01, 2006 at 06:58:14PM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: > Questions for all candidates: > > If elected, you will be the ninth Project Leader in Debian's history. Of > the preceding eight DPLs, which one do you admire most as a leader and why? This one is a very hard o

Re: Questions for all candidates: role models part two

2006-03-02 Thread Steve McIntyre
On Thu, Mar 02, 2006 at 09:35:11AM -0500, Clint Adams wrote: >In the context of the Debian community, do you feel that you are >currently a good role model? Yes, I believe so. I've been an enthusiastic supporter of Debian and Free Software for a long time. I'm visible in the community, honest and

Re: Questions for all candidates: role models

2006-03-02 Thread Steve McIntyre
On Wed, Mar 01, 2006 at 06:58:14PM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: >Questions for all candidates: > >If elected, you will be the ninth Project Leader in Debian's history. Of >the preceding eight DPLs, which one do you admire most as a leader and why? *grin* That's an awkwa

Re: Questions for all candidates: role models part two

2006-03-02 Thread Clint Adams
> Planet Debian, Clint thinks I've been a hypocrite in my involvement in > #debian-tech moderation. You can probably judge that for yourself by > looking through: I think you've been a hypocrite for numerous reasons, but none of that is relevant to my questions. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMA

Re: Questions for all candidates: role models part two

2006-03-02 Thread Anthony Towns
On Thu, Mar 02, 2006 at 09:35:11AM -0500, Clint Adams wrote: > How important is it to avoid being a hypocrite? This strikes me as one of those questions that wants to be an accusation when it grows up, but isn't quite game. For those who don't follow Planet Debian, Clint thinks I've been a hypocri

Re: Questions for all candidates: role models

2006-03-02 Thread Anthony Towns
On Thu, Mar 02, 2006 at 10:38:45PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > Which leaves Branden as our current DPL, and in whose term sarge got > released. I'm not sure how it went on behind the scenes, but Branden and > Manoj seem to have been responsible for getting the technical committee > on the road to

Re: Questions for all candidates: role models

2006-03-02 Thread Bill Allombert
On Wed, Mar 01, 2006 at 06:58:14PM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: > Questions for all candidates: > > If elected, you will be the ninth Project Leader in Debian's history. Of > the preceding eight DPLs, which one do you admire most as a leader and why? Well, I don't know muc

Re: Questions for all candidates: role models

2006-03-02 Thread Martin Michlmayr
* Anthony Towns [2006-03-02 22:38]: > and also in the handover of FrontDesk to Marc and Brian -- basically > the first steps in ensuring both of those roles had some actual > redundancy to them. Regarding the NM Front Desk, what you say is completely wrong. First of all, what I did as Front Desk

Questions for all candidates: role models part two

2006-03-02 Thread Clint Adams
In the context of the Debian community, do you feel that you are currently a good role model? To which aspects of your behavior should people aspire? Which aspects of your behavior should people eschew? How important is it to avoid being a hypocrite? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECT

Re: Questions for all candidates: role models

2006-03-02 Thread Anthony Towns
On Wed, Mar 01, 2006 at 06:58:14PM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: > If elected, you will be the ninth Project Leader in Debian's history. Of > the preceding eight DPLs, which one do you admire most as a leader and why? I wasn't part of the project when the Ian Murdock was leader -- I'd not long beg

Re: Questions for all candidates: role models

2006-03-01 Thread Ari Pollak
Steve Langasek wrote: > What's your favorite color? My favorite color is blue. What's your favorite ice cream flavor? "Belgian Chocolate" is always a good choice. > Do you prefer "favourite" or "favorite?" Yes. Thanks for the opportunity to answer these questions! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, ema

Questions for all candidates: role models

2006-03-01 Thread Steve Langasek
Questions for all candidates: If elected, you will be the ninth Project Leader in Debian's history. Of the preceding eight DPLs, which one do you admire most as a leader and why? Candidate platforms always tend to focus on what's wrong with the project; this is somewhat natural, si

Re: questions for all candidates

2006-03-01 Thread Pierre Habouzit
Le Mer 1 Mars 2006 13:48, Sven Luther a écrit : > On Tue, Feb 28, 2006 at 07:31:23PM +0100, Pierre Habouzit wrote: > > If I can take the last french elections for the “Président de la > > République” as an example, you'll see that the parties that had not > > a sound understanding, presented a *lot

Re: questions for all candidates

2006-03-01 Thread Sven Luther
On Tue, Feb 28, 2006 at 07:31:23PM +0100, Pierre Habouzit wrote: > If I can take the last french elections for the “Président de la > République” as an example, you'll see that the parties that had not a > sound understanding, presented a *lot* of candidates (that clearly led > to our catastroph

Re: questions for all candidates

2006-03-01 Thread Pierre Habouzit
> > and thus, the number of candidates is clearly a growing function of > > the number of the DDs. the more debian grows, the more DPL > > candidates we will have, and sadly the less DDs will feel > > represented by the DPL > > That does not follow. If there are three candidates that I would be >

Re: questions for all candidates

2006-02-28 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit Pierre Habouzit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > If I can take the last french elections for the “Président de la > République” as an example, you'll see that the parties that had not a > sound understanding, presented a *lot* of candidates (that clearly led > to our catastrophical second turn).

Re: questions for all candidates

2006-02-28 Thread Bill Allombert
On Tue, Feb 28, 2006 at 01:00:25PM +0100, Bill Allombert wrote: > Martin was running this year, I would not. The last year the DPL focus ^ > has shifted from technical leadership to social leadership, and Debian > is more attractive to techni

Re: questions for all candidates

2006-02-28 Thread Pierre Habouzit
Le Mar 28 Février 2006 13:00, Bill Allombert a écrit : > On Mon, Feb 27, 2006 at 02:01:58AM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: > > The campaign period is open according to > > , so here are two > > questions for all of the candidates. > > > > 1. The past two year

Re: questions for all candidates

2006-02-28 Thread Pierre Habouzit
Le Mar 28 Février 2006 13:00, Bill Allombert a écrit : > On Mon, Feb 27, 2006 at 02:01:58AM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: > > The campaign period is open according to > > , so here are two > > questions for all of the candidates. > > > > 1. The past two year

Re: questions for all candidates

2006-02-28 Thread Jeroen van Wolffelaar
On Mon, Feb 27, 2006 at 02:01:58AM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: > The campaign period is open according to > , so here are two questions for all > of the candidates. > > 1. The past two years have seen higher numbers of candidates standing for DPL >tha

Re: questions for all candidates

2006-02-28 Thread Steve McIntyre
Steve Langasek wrote: > >The campaign period is open according to >, so here are two questions >for all of the candidates. > >1. The past two years have seen higher numbers of candidates standing >for DPL than in the past. While our voting system has no pr

Re: questions for all candidates

2006-02-28 Thread Bill Allombert
On Mon, Feb 27, 2006 at 02:01:58AM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: > The campaign period is open according to > , so here are two questions for all > of the candidates. > > 1. The past two years have seen higher numbers of candidates standing for DPL >tha

Number of candidates/re-election (was: Re: questions for all candidates)

2006-02-27 Thread Anthony Towns
Hrm, platforms seem to be up (mostly), so I guess that makes it "answer questions" time. On Mon, Feb 27, 2006 at 02:01:58AM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: > 1. The past two years have seen higher numbers of candidates standing for DPL >than in the past. [...] what do you think about having seven

questions for all candidates

2006-02-27 Thread Steve Langasek
The campaign period is open according to , so here are two questions for all of the candidates. 1. The past two years have seen higher numbers of candidates standing for DPL than in the past. While our voting system has no problem scaling to seven c

Re: Questions for all candidates re: interpersonal behavior

2005-03-08 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Tue, Mar 08, 2005 at 01:15:59PM -0600, Steve Greenland wrote: > On 08-Mar-05, 08:47 (CST), Clint Adams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I'm still not going to expend time just to fix your insignificant > > > bugs, no matter how verbosely you bring the subject up :P > > > > > > There are plenty

Re: Questions for all candidates re: interpersonal behavior

2005-03-08 Thread Steve Greenland
On 08-Mar-05, 08:47 (CST), Clint Adams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'm still not going to expend time just to fix your insignificant > > bugs, no matter how verbosely you bring the subject up :P > > > > There are plenty of other insignificant bugs in tla that I could be > > spending my time ig

Re: Questions for all candidates re: interpersonal behavior

2005-03-08 Thread Sven Luther
On Tue, Mar 08, 2005 at 11:28:52AM +, Andrew Suffield wrote: > On Sun, Mar 06, 2005 at 01:10:27PM -0500, Clint Adams wrote: > > ===BEGIN ALLEGORY=== > > I spend the next several hours sending Andrew Suffield chain letters > > that say "if you don't fix tla by Thursday, your liver will transform

Re: Questions for all candidates re: interpersonal behavior

2005-03-08 Thread Clint Adams
> I'm still not going to expend time just to fix your insignificant > bugs, no matter how verbosely you bring the subject up :P > > There are plenty of other insignificant bugs in tla that I could be > spending my time ignoring. You can sit and wait like all the rest. Stop distracting people from

Re: Questions for all candidates re: interpersonal behavior

2005-03-08 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Sun, Mar 06, 2005 at 01:10:27PM -0500, Clint Adams wrote: > ===BEGIN ALLEGORY=== > I spend the next several hours sending Andrew Suffield chain letters > that say "if you don't fix tla by Thursday, your liver will transform > into mascarpone." I send these emails without making use of Debian >

Re: Questions for all candidates re: interpersonal behavior

2005-03-08 Thread Andreas Schuldei
On Tue, Mar 08, 2005 at 11:11:10AM +0100, Marco d'Itri wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > >Assume the demarcated hypothetical scenario to be true for the questions > >which follow. > Now let's try with a less hypothetical scenario. > I'd like to know from the candidates what do they think about

Re: Questions for all candidates re: interpersonal behavior

2005-03-08 Thread Marco d'Itri
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >Assume the demarcated hypothetical scenario to be true for the questions >which follow. Now let's try with a less hypothetical scenario. I'd like to know from the candidates what do they think about a candidate who, after discovering a possible bug in somebody else's pack

Re: Questions for all candidates re: interpersonal behavior

2005-03-07 Thread Branden Robinson
On Sun, Mar 06, 2005 at 01:10:27PM -0500, Clint Adams wrote: > Assume the demarcated hypothetical scenario to be true for the questions > which follow. Okay. I'll break your allegory up by sentence. > ===BEGIN ALLEGORY=== > I spend the next several hours sending Andrew Suffield chain letters > t

Re: Questions for all candidates re: interpersonal behavior

2005-03-06 Thread Matthew Garrett
Clint Adams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Assume the demarcated hypothetical scenario to be true for the questions > which follow. I've pretty much ignored your scenario, and given some general answers instead - I think the problem is general enough that a specific example isn't really needed. > I

Re: Questions for all candidates re: interpersonal behavior

2005-03-06 Thread Anthony Towns
Clint Adams wrote: Assume the demarcated hypothetical scenario to be true for the questions which follow. ===BEGIN ALLEGORY=== I spend the next several hours sending Andrew Suffield chain letters that say "if you don't fix tla by Thursday, your liver will transform into mascarpone." I send these e

Re: Questions for all candidates re: interpersonal behavior

2005-03-06 Thread Andreas Schuldei
On Sun, Mar 06, 2005 at 01:10:27PM -0500, Clint Adams wrote: > Assume the demarcated hypothetical scenario to be true for the questions > which follow. > > ===BEGIN ALLEGORY=== > [...] > ===END ALLEGORY=== The answer to this problem is to achive reconciliation between Andrew and you. That should

Questions for all candidates re: interpersonal behavior

2005-03-06 Thread Clint Adams
Assume the demarcated hypothetical scenario to be true for the questions which follow. ===BEGIN ALLEGORY=== I spend the next several hours sending Andrew Suffield chain letters that say "if you don't fix tla by Thursday, your liver will transform into mascarpone." I send these emails without maki

Re: Questions for all candidates

2003-02-28 Thread Jérôme Marant
En réponse à Eduard Bloch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Same here - when I asked to have for the debian-desktop repository - > the > answer was that the new repository server will be set up, soon, and > having all repositories there is A MUST, we have to wait for it, it > will > be ready soon. Wiggy is

Re: Questions for all candidates

2003-02-28 Thread Jérôme Marant
En réponse à Eduard Bloch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Same here - when I asked to have for the debian-desktop repository - > the > answer was that the new repository server will be set up, soon, and > having all repositories there is A MUST, we have to wait for it, it > will > be ready soon. Wiggy is

Re: Questions for all candidates

2003-02-27 Thread Eduard Bloch
#include * Raphael Hertzog [Thu, Feb 27 2003, 10:04:08PM]: > I've had debian-admin refusing to create me a CVS repository because > it's too much work for them and I should better wait for > the Debian Sourceforge (codenamed alioth.debian.org). And they have been > refusing to create CVS repositor

Re: Questions for all candidates

2003-02-27 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Le Thu, Feb 27, 2003 at 12:59:15PM -0700, Bdale Garbee écrivait: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Raphael Hertzog) writes: > > > 1. master.debian.org is still running potato. What do you think about > >that ? > > As long as we continue to support security updates for potato, I'm not > concerned about it

Re: Questions for all candidates

2003-02-27 Thread Eduard Bloch
#include * Raphael Hertzog [Thu, Feb 27 2003, 10:04:08PM]: > I've had debian-admin refusing to create me a CVS repository because > it's too much work for them and I should better wait for > the Debian Sourceforge (codenamed alioth.debian.org). And they have been > refusing to create CVS repositor

Re: Questions for all candidates

2003-02-27 Thread Bdale Garbee
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Raphael Hertzog) writes: > 1. master.debian.org is still running potato. What do you think about >that ? As long as we continue to support security updates for potato, I'm not concerned about it. > 2. If you're regularly in contact with debian-admin or ftpmasters or > som

Re: Questions for all candidates

2003-02-27 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Le Thu, Feb 27, 2003 at 12:59:15PM -0700, Bdale Garbee écrivait: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Raphael Hertzog) writes: > > > 1. master.debian.org is still running potato. What do you think about > >that ? > > As long as we continue to support security updates for potato, I'm not > concerned about it

Re: Questions for all candidates

2003-02-27 Thread Bdale Garbee
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Raphael Hertzog) writes: > 1. master.debian.org is still running potato. What do you think about >that ? As long as we continue to support security updates for potato, I'm not concerned about it. > 2. If you're regularly in contact with debian-admin or ftpmasters or > som

Re: Questions for all candidates

2003-02-27 Thread Branden Robinson
On Wed, Feb 26, 2003 at 09:39:56PM -0600, Graham Wilson wrote: > On Wed, Feb 26, 2003 at 12:56:19AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > > If my reply to Steve Langasek was insufficient to answer your questions, > > please let me know. > > im assuming the one in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>? if yes, > then it

Re: Questions for all candidates

2003-02-27 Thread Branden Robinson
On Wed, Feb 26, 2003 at 09:39:56PM -0600, Graham Wilson wrote: > On Wed, Feb 26, 2003 at 12:56:19AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > > If my reply to Steve Langasek was insufficient to answer your questions, > > please let me know. > > im assuming the one in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>? if yes, > then it

Re: Questions for all candidates

2003-02-26 Thread Graham Wilson
On Wed, Feb 26, 2003 at 12:56:19AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > On Tue, Feb 25, 2003 at 09:37:34PM -0600, Graham Wilson wrote: > > do you think that it is the responsibility of the dpl to get this process > > started? > > > > if so, do you intend to do this? and if not, how do you think the >

Re: Questions for all candidates

2003-02-26 Thread Graham Wilson
On Wed, Feb 26, 2003 at 12:56:19AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > On Tue, Feb 25, 2003 at 09:37:34PM -0600, Graham Wilson wrote: > > do you think that it is the responsibility of the dpl to get this process > > started? > > > > if so, do you intend to do this? and if not, how do you think the >

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