Re: Question for all candidates: Sam's non-platform: Delegates

2020-03-18 Thread Brian Gupta
On Wed, Mar 18, 2020 at 1:35 PM Sean Whitton wrote: > > Hello, > > In his non-platform, Sam wrote > > If I were running as DPL, figuring out how to do a better job of > managing delegations, respecting both the current delegates and the > needs of the project, would be my priority for

Re: Question for all candidates: Sam's non-platform: Delegates

2020-03-18 Thread Jonathan Carter
On 2020/03/18 19:33, Sean Whitton wrote: > In his non-platform, Sam wrote > > If I were running as DPL, figuring out how to do a better job of > managing delegations, respecting both the current delegates and the > needs of the project, would be my priority for the next year. I >

Question for all candidates: Sam's non-platform: Delegates

2020-03-18 Thread Sean Whitton
Hello, In his non-platform, Sam wrote If I were running as DPL, figuring out how to do a better job of managing delegations, respecting both the current delegates and the needs of the project, would be my priority for the next year. I hope that the candidates who step forward tak

Re: Question for all candidates: Care of Core infrastructure

2010-03-30 Thread Charles Plessy
Hi all, the question of the core infrastructures is difficult and very important. Le Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 11:30:39AM +0100, Marc Haber a écrit : > > Do you see the diminishing care for our Core infrastructure as a > problem? Do you have any idea how do sensibilize our new blood for the > fact th

Re: Question for all candidates: Release process

2010-03-29 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 11:03:00AM +0800, Paul Wise a écrit : > > I find that attitude problematic. When electing a DPL we get a package > deal. Some of each candidates ideas are liked by some/many, others > disliked by some/many. It would be a shame to throw out good ideas > with bad ones. Le Mo

Re: Question for all candidates: Release process

2010-03-29 Thread Joerg Jaspert
> (And to answer to the comment ‘you do not need to be DPL for doing this’, that > is true, but if I make a bad score at this election, I will conclude that > there > are not many persons interested in what I propose anyway, and will save > everybody's > time by not discussing them further in th

Re: Question for all candidates: Release process

2010-03-28 Thread Paul Wise
On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 9:50 AM, Charles Plessy wrote: > (And to answer to the comment ‘you do not need to be DPL for doing this’, that > is true, but if I make a bad score at this election, I will conclude that > there > are not many persons interested in what I propose anyway, and will save >

Re: Question for all candidates: Release process

2010-03-28 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 12:51:31PM +0200, Bernhard R. Link a écrit : > > So is this "let" supposed to mean "allow" or to mean "force"? Hi Bernd, it means, the one who wants the package is responsible for it. If upstream and the maintainer are not interested in supporting a package on an architec

Re: Question for all candidates: Release process

2010-03-28 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 01:15:47PM +0100, Stefano Zacchiroli a écrit : > > I don't understand what "cloud computing" has to do with your idea of > using package priorities to release differently different sub-systems > within Debian. I'm well aware that we are currently lagging behind in > the rac

Re: Question for all candidates: Release process

2010-03-28 Thread Bernhard R. Link
* Charles Plessy [100327 06:17]: > I think that the ‘RPM hell’ that you used to comment my propositions is more > related to a situation when independant distributions are using the same > package format, than when a distribution offers multiple repositories that > obey > to a policy that keeps t

Re: Question for all candidates: Release process

2010-03-27 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 04:13:11PM +0800, Paul Wise a écrit : > > Does popcon not already provide a way to order packages based on > importance? rc-alert has both options for sorting bugs by both local & > global popcon score. Hi Paul, Popcon is definitely a potent indicator, but has its flaws a

Re: Question for all candidates: Release process

2010-03-27 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 03:17:03PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: > In my experience, trivial RC bugs on not-so important packages attract > volunteers because it is very rewarding to close RC bugs. > So in my opinion, not all RC bugs are equal, and a better priority > system would be useful to help

Re: Question for all candidates: Release process

2010-03-27 Thread Paul Wise
On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 2:17 PM, Charles Plessy wrote: > Regarding my proposal, that is internal to Debian, I do not think that it is > impossible. What I propose is a way for package maintainers to signal that > their package is peripheral in the Debian system, in an opt-in manner. Debian > is r

Re: Question for all candidates: Release process

2010-03-26 Thread Charles Plessy
Hello Bernhard and everybody, I think that the ‘RPM hell’ that you used to comment my propositions is more related to a situation when independant distributions are using the same package format, than when a distribution offers multiple repositories that obey to a policy that keeps the whole syste

Re: Question for all candidates: Release process

2010-03-24 Thread Andreas Barth
* Charles Plessy (ple...@debian.org) [100317 01:52]: > I propose that we reshape the sections and priorities of our archive, so that > it is easy to remove from Testing any RC bug that is not in a core pakcage, > and is old and not tagged RFH. We already do that, provided the RC bug is old enough.

Re: Question for all candidates: Release process

2010-03-18 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 08:09:19AM +0100, Lucas Nussbaum a écrit : > > During the last debconf, the freeze of squeeze was first announced to > take place in December, then this decision was cancelled, and now we are > in March. > - How do you analyze what happened during last summer? What went wro

Re: Question for all candidates: Release process

2010-03-17 Thread Margarita Manterola
On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 12:56 AM, Gunnar Wolf wrote: > Hmm, you got me thinking here on why this happened, as I share your > impression. Maybe it was because the project as a whole put more care > into the release process after the massive pain it was to release > Sarge, a three-year-long pain we

Re: Question for all candidates: Care of Core infrastructure

2010-03-17 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 12:01:14PM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > Nobody can do a sponsored upload, except a DD. Nobody can do an NMU, > except a DD. Nobody can maintain a buildd host, except a DD. It was pointed out to me on IRC that yes, there are sponsored NMUs, and that it therefore is 'stran

Re: Question for all candidates: Release process

2010-03-17 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 09:56:56PM -0600, Gunnar Wolf wrote: > Hmm, you got me thinking here on why this happened, as I share your > impression. Maybe it was because the project as a whole put more care > into the release process after the massive pain it was to release > Sarge, a three-year-long p

Re: Question for all candidates: Care of Core infrastructure

2010-03-17 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 10:56:58PM -0600, Gunnar Wolf wrote: > Wouter Verhelst dijo [Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 01:45:33AM +0100]: > > The numbers are easy. The amount of Debian Developers has been > > approximately steady at about 1000 for the past ten years. Over that > > same time, the amount of packa

Re: Question for all candidates: Release process

2010-03-17 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 09:56:56PM -0600, Gunnar Wolf wrote: > Wouter Verhelst dijo [Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 12:57:13AM +0100]: > > In my opinion, the best release we ever had (that I was a part of, at > > least) was the Etch release process; shortly after Sarge had been > > released, the release mana

Re: Question for all candidates: Release process

2010-03-17 Thread Bernhard R. Link
* Charles Plessy [100317 01:52]: > I propose that we reshape the sections and priorities of our archive, so that > it is easy to remove from Testing any RC bug that is not in a core pakcage, > and is old and not tagged RFH. How is that different from the current procedure? > In parallel, I propo

Re: Question for all candidates: Care of Core infrastructure

2010-03-16 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Stefano Zacchiroli dijo [Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 01:59:39PM +0100]: > FWIW, the total number of DDs is not a particularly good indicator of > the work force we have in Debian. Until recently, with the introduction > of (periodic) WAT runs, the number of DDs was just meant to go up and > up, given that

Re: Question for all candidates: Care of Core infrastructure

2010-03-16 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Wouter Verhelst dijo [Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 01:45:33AM +0100]: > The numbers are easy. The amount of Debian Developers has been > approximately steady at about 1000 for the past ten years. Over that > same time, the amount of packages in our distribution has been steadily > increasing. By definition

Re: Question for all candidates: Release process

2010-03-16 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Wouter Verhelst dijo [Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 12:57:13AM +0100]: > In my opinion, the best release we ever had (that I was a part of, at > least) was the Etch release process; shortly after Sarge had been > released, the release managers had started to regularly update the > project as a whole on wher

Re: Question for all candidates: Release process

2010-03-16 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 02:44:15PM -0700, Russ Allbery a écrit : > > Releasing is regularly the hardest thing that Debian does, not just > technically but also socially. Apart from the standard issues of setting > deadlines, RC bug counts being high, and similar difficult technical > issues, the

Re: Question for all candidates: Care of Core infrastructure

2010-03-16 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 01:59:39PM +0100, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 01:14:18PM +0100, Toni Mueller wrote: > > > the number of DDs has not been going up for quite a while now. > > If it hasn't declined very much, that'd be a good thing already. > > FWIW, the total number o

Re: Question for all candidates: Care of Core infrastructure

2010-03-16 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 01:14:18PM +0100, Toni Mueller wrote: > > the number of DDs has not been going up for quite a while now. > If it hasn't declined very much, that'd be a good thing already. FWIW, the total number of DDs is not a particularly good indicator of the work force we have in Debian

Re: Question for all candidates: Care of Core infrastructure

2010-03-16 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 01:35:51PM +0100, Marc Haber wrote: > Hi, > > On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 01:45:33AM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > > Given the above, I believe the most important task ahead of us is making > > Debian more attractive for users and prospective contributors; that is > > what I

Re: Question for all candidates: Care of Core infrastructure

2010-03-16 Thread Toni Mueller
On Tue, 16.03.2010 at 01:45:33 +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > increasing. By definition, that means the ratio of Debian Developers per > package has been doing down, and thus also that the core infrastructure > has less contributors. Having more packages does not necessarily mean > that only fri

Re: Question for all candidates: Care of Core infrastructure

2010-03-16 Thread Marc Haber
Hi, On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 01:45:33AM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > Given the above, I believe the most important task ahead of us is making > Debian more attractive for users and prospective contributors; that is > what I intend to work on. How do you intend to work on this? Greetings Marc

Re: Question for all candidates: Release process

2010-03-15 Thread Frans Pop
Reading Wouter's post in this thread just now I realize I made a fairly stupid mistake when writing my mail. Frans Pop wrote: > This seems to be what the RT has been focussing on after Sarge. [...] s/Sarge/Etch/ > During the Sarge release these two sides were in balance. After that, for > Sarge

Re: Question for all candidates: Care of Core infrastructure

2010-03-15 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 11:30:39AM +0100, Marc Haber wrote: > This is for all candidates. > > In the last years I have seen a really disturbing development in > Debian: New developers are very interested in bringing new packages > into Debian, but care for our core infrastructure (dpkg, apt) has a

Re: Question for all candidates: Release process

2010-03-15 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 08:09:19AM +0100, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > On 14/03/10 at 14:44 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > > This is for all candidates. > > > > Releasing is regularly the hardest thing that Debian does, not just > > technically but also socially. Apart from the standard issues of settin

Re: Question for all candidates: Release process

2010-03-15 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 02:44:15PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > This is for all candidates. > > Releasing is regularly the hardest thing that Debian does, not just > technically but also socially. Apart from the standard issues of setting > deadlines, RC bug counts being high, and similar difficu

Re: Question for all candidates: Care of Core infrastructure

2010-03-15 Thread Mike Hommey
On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 12:04:57AM +0100, Cyril Brulebois wrote: > Marc Haber (15/03/2010): > > Maybe we failed to provide such a "two-liner", which in fact is, > > unfortunately, much more complicated than one might think naively. > > Additionally, example code for policy-rc.d is (almost?) nonexi

Re: Question for all candidates: Care of Core infrastructure

2010-03-15 Thread Marc Haber
On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 12:04:57AM +0100, Cyril Brulebois wrote: > Marc Haber (15/03/2010): > > Maybe we failed to provide such a "two-liner", which in fact is, > > unfortunately, much more complicated than one might think naively. > > Additionally, example code for policy-rc.d is (almost?) nonexi

Re: Question for all candidates: Care of Core infrastructure

2010-03-15 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Marc Haber (15/03/2010): > Maybe we failed to provide such a "two-liner", which in fact is, > unfortunately, much more complicated than one might think naively. > Additionally, example code for policy-rc.d is (almost?) nonexistent. Maybe running reportbug would be more efficient than talking abou

Re: Question for all candidates: Care of Core infrastructure

2010-03-15 Thread Marc Haber
On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 03:45:46PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: > Marc Haber wrote: > > - The concept of "all services are immediately started after > > configuration" and "deleting all stop/start links will cause the > > package's defaults to be re-established on the next package update" > >

Re: Question for all candidates: squeeze freeze [ Was: Release process ]

2010-03-15 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
[ Please: can people that follow-up with different questions change the subject accordingly? I believe it would make easier to read the question archive afterwords. ] On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 08:09:19AM +0100, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > During the last debconf, the freeze of squeeze was first anno

Re: Question for all candidates: Release process

2010-03-15 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 02:44:15PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > Releasing is regularly the hardest thing that Debian does, not just > technically but also socially. To some extent, I believe it is normal. Releases are our main "products", they define our purpose. The people which are putting their

Re: Question for all candidates: Care of Core infrastructure

2010-03-15 Thread Joey Hess
Marc Haber wrote: > - dpkg still uses normal console prompting for dpkg-conffile > handling, while debconf has been mandatory for regular packages for > years now. Dpkg has more active development now than it has for much of the past fifteen years. And they've even talked some about impl

Re: Question for all candidates: Care of Core infrastructure

2010-03-15 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 11:30:39AM +0100, Marc Haber wrote: > Do you see the diminishing care for our Core infrastructure as a > problem? Do you have any idea how do sensibilize our new blood for the > fact that "new packages" doesn't help Debian if our Core stuff is > diminishing? I know that this

Re: Question for all candidates: Release process

2010-03-15 Thread Margarita Manterola
Hi Frans, Let me first start by stating that I'm sadly concerned about the tone of your mail. Nobody claims that the release process has been done perfectly, there have been mistakes, but we are all human and we can all make mistakes. It's alright to point those mistakes out so that people can c

Re: Question for all candidates: Release process

2010-03-15 Thread Frans Pop
Margarita Manterola wrote: > I think that most of the frustration comes from the fact that the > release team is lacking manpower. The job of the release team is very > stressful and very rarely do the RM and RA feel that their work is > appreciated. I disagree. I think the main problem is that t

Re: Question for all candidates: Care of Core infrastructure

2010-03-15 Thread Margarita Manterola
On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 7:30 AM, Marc Haber wrote: > Do you see the diminishing care for our Core infrastructure as a > problem? Do you have any idea how do sensibilize our new blood for the > fact that "new packages" doesn't help Debian if our Core stuff is > diminishing? I know that this is not

Re: Question for all candidates: Release process

2010-03-15 Thread Margarita Manterola
On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 4:09 AM, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > During the last debconf, the freeze of squeeze was first announced to > take place in December, then this decision was cancelled, and now we are > in March. > - How do you analyze what happened during last summer? What went wrong? What wen

Re: Question for all candidates: Release process

2010-03-15 Thread Margarita Manterola
On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 6:44 PM, Russ Allbery wrote: > Releasing is regularly the hardest thing that Debian does, not just > technically but also socially.  Apart from the standard issues of setting > deadlines, RC bug counts being high, and similar difficult technical > issues, the process seems

Re: Question for all candidates: Care of Core infrastructure

2010-03-15 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le lundi 15 mars 2010 à 12:54 +0100, Marc Haber a écrit : > Agreed. Any more additions by others? Core packages: glibc, kernel, X.org, Mozilla, KDE, GNOME… These are the packages everything else is built upon, yet people are more interested in adding yet another implementation of existing functio

Re: Question for all candidates: Care of Core infrastructure

2010-03-15 Thread Alexander Reichle-Schmehl
Hi! Marc Haber schrieb: >> - Debian Installer development >> - Porting: several ports are struggling >> - Documentation maintenance: >> - website >> - Release Notes >> - various other guides > Agreed. Any more additions by others? ftp-team and more or less everything PR related. Best re

Re: Question for all candidates: Care of Core infrastructure

2010-03-15 Thread Marc Haber
Hi, On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 12:52:44PM +0100, Frans Pop wrote: > IMO it's worth adding to that: > - Debian Installer development > - Porting: several ports are struggling > - Documentation maintenance: > - website > - Release Notes > - various other guides Agreed. Any more additions by othe

Re: Question for all candidates: Care of Core infrastructure

2010-03-15 Thread Frans Pop
Marc Haber wrote: > In the last years I have seen a really disturbing development in > Debian: New developers are very interested in bringing new packages > into Debian, but care for our core infrastructure (dpkg, apt) has a > little bit diminished. Good question and quite true. IMO it's worth ad

Question for all candidates: Care of Core infrastructure

2010-03-15 Thread Marc Haber
This is for all candidates. In the last years I have seen a really disturbing development in Debian: New developers are very interested in bringing new packages into Debian, but care for our core infrastructure (dpkg, apt) has a little bit diminished. I am not saying that noone seems to care, but

Re: Question for all candidates: Release process

2010-03-15 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
On 14/03/10 at 14:44 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > This is for all candidates. > > Releasing is regularly the hardest thing that Debian does, not just > technically but also socially. Apart from the standard issues of setting > deadlines, RC bug counts being high, and similar difficult technical >

Question for all candidates: Release process

2010-03-14 Thread Russ Allbery
This is for all candidates. Releasing is regularly the hardest thing that Debian does, not just technically but also socially. Apart from the standard issues of setting deadlines, RC bug counts being high, and similar difficult technical issues, the process seems to eat volunteers. There's usual

Re: Question for all candidates about http://wiki.debian.org/DiscussionsAfterLenny

2009-03-21 Thread Steve McIntyre
On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 11:47:49PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: >Le Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 11:04:59PM +, Steve McIntyre a écrit : >> >> I can also see that you have your own menu/desktop topic there too >> that I expect you'll want to raise. What are your plans for that? >> >> [1] http://wiki.d

Re: Question for all candidates about http://wiki.debian.org/DiscussionsAfterLenny

2009-03-21 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 11:04:59PM +, Steve McIntyre a écrit : > > I can also see that you have your own menu/desktop topic there too > that I expect you'll want to raise. What are your plans for that? > > [1] http://wiki.debian.org/DiscussionsAfterLenny Hi Steve, First I plan to produce a

Re: Question for all candidates about http://wiki.debian.org/DiscussionsAfterLenny

2009-03-20 Thread Steve McIntyre
Hi Charles, Apologies for the delay in responding: I've been ill (as *always* seems to happen around the DPL election period) and then had a funeral to attend today. I hope next week is better...! On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 10:13:30AM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: > >Our Consitution suggests a strong

Re: Question for all candidates about http://wiki.debian.org/DiscussionsAfterLenny

2009-03-14 Thread Luk Claes
Charles Plessy wrote: > Dear Steve, Luk and Stefano, Hi Charles > thank you very much for the time and efforts you are proposing to dedicate to > the Project ! > > Our Consitution suggests a stronger leadership of the DPL the discussions: > > 9. Lead discussions amongst Developers. > > Th

Re: Question for all candidates about http://wiki.debian.org/DiscussionsAfterLenny

2009-03-11 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 10:13:30AM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: > thank you very much for the time and efforts you are proposing to > dedicate to the Project ! Hi Charles, thanks for your question. > Our Consitution suggests a stronger leadership of the DPL the > discussions: > Given how heated

Question for all candidates about http://wiki.debian.org/DiscussionsAfterLenny

2009-03-10 Thread Charles Plessy
Dear Steve, Luk and Stefano, thank you very much for the time and efforts you are proposing to dedicate to the Project ! Our Consitution suggests a stronger leadership of the DPL the discussions: 9. Lead discussions amongst Developers. The Project Leader should attempt to participate in d

Re: Question for all candidates: inter-dependancy of works the growing Debian project.

2008-03-16 Thread Moritz Muehlenhoff
Charles Plessy wrote: > I started to wonder about modularity in the use of the Debian > infrastructure in 2006, because of a problem with the clustalw package. > As you can see on the graph, its popcon score started to decrease around > july. > (http://people.debian.org/~igloo/popcon-graphs/index.

Re: Question for all candidates: Handling declassification of debian-private (GR 2005-02)

2008-03-13 Thread Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt
Steve McIntyre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 03:21:23PM +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote: >>On Tue, 11 Mar 2008, Fabian Fagerholm wrote: >>> If you were elected DPL for the next term, what would you do about this >>> GR and when? How would you ensure that the declassification ca

Re: Question for all candidates: inter-dependancy of works the growing Debian project.

2008-03-13 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Thu, 13 Mar 2008, Charles Plessy wrote: > (And since this thread is supposed to be questions for the DPL > candidates, I will add one: some time ago, a DD was sending emails on > -devel whenever the discussion was offtopic, to ask for it to be > transferred or stopped: what do you think of this

Re: Question for all candidates: inter-dependancy of works the growing Debian project.

2008-03-12 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 10:07:30AM +0900, Charles Plessy a écrit : > Le Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 09:50:27AM +0900, Paul Wise a écrit : > > On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 12:46 AM, Charles Plessy > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > (building non-free on official autobuilders is not allowed). > > > > Un

Re: Question for all candidates: inter-dependancy of works the growing Debian project.

2008-03-12 Thread Cyril Brulebois
On 13/03/2008, Paul Wise wrote: > Untrue, you just need to get your package whitelisted since non-free > packages may not be legal to autobuild. You need to contact aba IIRC. > Not sure why you don't know about this, nor where the best place to > store this information is, perhaps the NM templates

Re: Question for all candidates: Handling declassification of debian-private (GR 2005-02)

2008-03-12 Thread Steve McIntyre
On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 03:21:23PM +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote: >Hi, > >On Tue, 11 Mar 2008, Fabian Fagerholm wrote: >> If you were elected DPL for the next term, what would you do about this >> GR and when? How would you ensure that the declassification can happen >> in a timely manner and fulfil

Re: Question for all candidates: inter-dependancy of works the growing Debian project.

2008-03-12 Thread Steve McIntyre
On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 01:20:35PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: >Hi, Hi Charles, >Although I am not yet a DD, as it can happen anytime before or after the >elections, I would like to ask a question to the candidates. > >Debian is growing bigger everyday. I would like to know if you think >that it

Re: Question for all candidates: inter-dependancy of works the growing Debian project.

2008-03-12 Thread Paul Wise
On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 12:46 AM, Charles Plessy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > (building non-free on official autobuilders is not allowed). Untrue, you just need to get your package whitelisted since non-free packages may not be legal to autobuild. You need to contact aba IIRC. Not sure why you d

Re: Question for all candidates: inter-dependancy of works the growing Debian project.

2008-03-12 Thread Charles Plessy
Hi Moritz, hi Marc. I started to wonder about modularity in the use of the Debian infrastructure in 2006, because of a problem with the clustalw package. As you can see on the graph, its popcon score started to decrease around july. (http://people.debian.org/~igloo/popcon-graphs/index.php?package

Re: Question for all candidates: Handling declassification of debian-private (GR 2005-02)

2008-03-12 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Hi, On Tue, 11 Mar 2008, Fabian Fagerholm wrote: > If you were elected DPL for the next term, what would you do about this > GR and when? How would you ensure that the declassification can happen > in a timely manner and fulfil all the requirements? What would your > declassification team look lik

Re: Question for all candidates: inter-dependancy of works the growing Debian project.

2008-03-11 Thread Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt
Charles Plessy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Debian is growing bigger everyday. I would like to know if you think > that it should adapt to its new size, and if yes, how can you help this > process as a DPL. Debian has steadily grown in the past few years, at least in respect to the number of pack

Re: Question for all candidates: inter-dependancy of works the growing Debian project.

2008-03-11 Thread Moritz Muehlenhoff
Charles Plessy wrote: > Although I am not yet a DD, as it can happen anytime before or after the > elections, I would like to ask a question to the candidates. > > Debian is growing bigger everyday. I would like to know if you think > that it should adapt to its new size, and if yes, how can you he

Question for all candidates: Handling declassification of debian-private (GR 2005-02)

2008-03-11 Thread Fabian Fagerholm
Dear candidates, At the end of 2005, the Debian Project passed a General Resolution [0] to declassify posts made to the debian-private mailing list. The GR specified that posts that are at least three years old will be considered for publishing. It also specified that the DPL will appoint a team t

Re: Question for all candidates: inter-dependancy of works the growing Debian project.

2008-03-11 Thread Pierre Habouzit
On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 04:20:35AM +, Charles Plessy wrote: > Can we imagine a more componentised Debian distribution, in which it > would be the common responsability of the packagers and the service > managers to opt in or opt out the use of each services by Debian > packages (or preferably g

Question for all candidates: inter-dependancy of works the growing Debian project.

2008-03-10 Thread Charles Plessy
Hi, Although I am not yet a DD, as it can happen anytime before or after the elections, I would like to ask a question to the candidates. Debian is growing bigger everyday. I would like to know if you think that it should adapt to its new size, and if yes, how can you help this process as a DPL.

Re: Question for all candidates, was: Google SoC 2007 - we're in, sign up quickly!

2007-03-19 Thread MJ Ray
Steve McIntyre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > First of all, your arbitrary dislike of Google is well-enough known > already; it has no place in this forum. Apparently it's not well-enough known that it's not arbitrary, but actually based on their irritating bugs and misbehaviour! Also, maybe some d

Re: Question for all candidates, was: Google SoC 2007 - we're in, sign up quickly!

2007-03-18 Thread Aigars Mahinovs
MJ Ray wrote: > Bastian Venthur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Looks like Google is really everywhere these days. I'm curious about >> SoC: What where the last year's Debian projects and what was there >> outcome? Which projects where successful and which failed? I also mentored a I18N related proj

Re: Question for all candidates, was: Google SoC 2007 - we're in, sign up quickly!

2007-03-17 Thread Sam Hocevar
On Fri, Mar 16, 2007, MJ Ray wrote: > but after that, I didn't find another search result until he mentioned > the 2007 marketing campaign. Is this the sort of "fire and forget" > reporting that we would expect if Steve McIntyre were elected DPL? > > How would other candidates avoid dropping top

Re: Question for all candidates: pushing people

2007-03-17 Thread Steve McIntyre
On Fri, Mar 16, 2007 at 03:03:05PM +0100, Andreas Schuldei wrote: > >that sounds to me like you wanted to continue with "but you cant >do that???as they are all volunteers and you cant push them" or so. >could you elaborate? were you in the position to push people to >do something in debian, and ho

Re: Question for all candidates, was: Google SoC 2007 - we're in, sign up quickly!

2007-03-17 Thread Steve McIntyre
On Fri, Mar 16, 2007 at 09:22:40AM +, MJ Ray wrote: > > "The Google Summer of Code[0] is over, and final reports have been > submitted. Most of our students worked well right up to (and in some > cases beyond) the end of the summer, and hopefully we'll see some > useful results from their p

Re: Question for all candidates: pushing people

2007-03-16 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Fri, Mar 16, 2007 at 03:03:05PM +0100, Andreas Schuldei wrote: > * Wouter Verhelst ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [070316 14:35]: > > > How would other candidates avoid dropping topics like this? > > > > The only way you can do that is by actively asking people to produce a > > report when they said they'

Re: Question for all candidates: pushing people

2007-03-16 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Fri, 16 Mar 2007, Andreas Schuldei wrote: > * Wouter Verhelst ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [070316 14:35]: > > > How would other candidates avoid dropping topics like this? > > > > The only way you can do that is by actively asking people to produce a > > report when they said they'd do so. > > that so

Re: Question for all candidates, was: Google SoC 2007 - we're in, sign up quickly!

2007-03-16 Thread MJ Ray
Wouter Verhelst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, Mar 16, 2007 at 09:22:40AM +, MJ Ray wrote: > > [...] Is this the sort of "fire and forget" > > reporting that we would expect if Steve McIntyre were elected DPL? > [...] > If writing the full report wasn't Steve's responsability, then it's n

Question for all candidates: pushing people

2007-03-16 Thread Andreas Schuldei
* Wouter Verhelst ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [070316 14:35]: > > How would other candidates avoid dropping topics like this? > > The only way you can do that is by actively asking people to produce a > report when they said they'd do so. that sounds to me like you wanted to continue with "but you cant d

Re: Question for all candidates, was: Google SoC 2007 - we're in, sign up quickly!

2007-03-16 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Fri, Mar 16, 2007 at 09:22:40AM +, MJ Ray wrote: > Bastian Venthur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Looks like Google is really everywhere these days. I'm curious about > > SoC: What where the last year's Debian projects and what was there > > outcome? Which projects where successful and which

Re: Question for all candidates, was: Google SoC 2007 - we're in, sign up quickly!

2007-03-16 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Fri, 16 Mar 2007, MJ Ray wrote: > So, just to be sure I've understood your reply: if you-as-DPL (or one of > your delegates) tells us that we can expect something, that would't mean > anything if the task depends on someone else? You'd feel that you need > not check whether we get it, or give a

Re: Question for all candidates, was: Google SoC 2007 - we're in, sign up quickly!

2007-03-16 Thread MJ Ray
Raphael Hertzog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > On Fri, 16 Mar 2007, MJ Ray wrote: > > How would other candidates avoid dropping topics like this? [cc'd to > > -vote for these questions, please drop -project or -vote on replies] > > This is not really up to the DPL. That would be useless micro-management. [

Re: Question for all candidates, was: Google SoC 2007 - we're in, sign up quickly!

2007-03-16 Thread Aurelien Jarno
Raphael Hertzog a écrit : > On Fri, 16 Mar 2007, MJ Ray wrote: >> How would other candidates avoid dropping topics like this? [cc'd to >> -vote for these questions, please drop -project or -vote on replies] > > This is not really up to the DPL. That would be useless micro-management.

Re: Question for all candidates, was: Google SoC 2007 - we're in, sign up quickly!

2007-03-16 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Fri, 16 Mar 2007, MJ Ray wrote: > How would other candidates avoid dropping topics like this? [cc'd to > -vote for these questions, please drop -project or -vote on replies] This is not really up to the DPL. That would be useless micro-management. Last year was our first participation and it ha

Re: Question for all candidates, was: Google SoC 2007 - we're in, sign up quickly!

2007-03-16 Thread Emanuele Rocca
* MJ Ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [2007-03-16 9:22 +]: > Bastian Venthur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Looks like Google is really everywhere these days. I'm curious about > > SoC: What where the last year's Debian projects and what was there > > outcome? Which projects where successful and w

Question for all candidates, was: Google SoC 2007 - we're in, sign up quickly!

2007-03-16 Thread MJ Ray
Bastian Venthur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Looks like Google is really everywhere these days. I'm curious about > SoC: What where the last year's Debian projects and what was there > outcome? Which projects where successful and which failed? Excellent questions! Steve McIntyre wrote in "Bits fr

Re: Question for all candidates: Importance of unofficial archives

2007-03-04 Thread Sam Hocevar
On Sun, Mar 04, 2007, Martin Zobel-Helas wrote: > How important are unofficial archives[1] for you? What whould you do to > support them, if you consider them important? What could be done to > integrate them into official Debian structure? As a general rule, I find unofficial archives importa

Re: Question for all candidates: Importance of unofficial archives

2007-03-04 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Sun, Mar 04, 2007 at 12:50:22PM +0100, Martin Zobel-Helas wrote: > Hi, > > this question is for all candidates: > > How important are unofficial archives[1] for you? They are important, as they allow people to do stuff with their Debian installation that isn't necessarily possible with Debian

Re: Question for all candidates: Importance of unofficial archives

2007-03-04 Thread Steve McIntyre
On Sun, Mar 04, 2007 at 12:50:22PM +0100, Martin Zobel-Helas wrote: >Hi, hi Martin, >this question is for all candidates: > >How important are unofficial archives[1] for you? What whould you do to >support them, if you consider them important? What could be done to >integrate them into official D

Re: Question for all candidates: Importance of unofficial archives

2007-03-04 Thread Aigars Mahinovs
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 > How important are unofficial archives for you? What whould you do to > support them, if you consider them important? What could be done to > integrate them into official Debian structure? If we would follow along the line of my distribution trunk pr

Re: Question for all candidates: Importance of unofficial archives

2007-03-04 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Hi, On Sun, 04 Mar 2007, Martin Zobel-Helas wrote: > How important are unofficial archives[1] for you? What whould you do to > support them, if you consider them important? What could be done to > integrate them into official Debian structure? All unofficial archives serve a purpose, but they are

Question for all candidates: Importance of unofficial archives

2007-03-04 Thread Martin Zobel-Helas
Hi, this question is for all candidates: How important are unofficial archives[1] for you? What whould you do to support them, if you consider them important? What could be done to integrate them into official Debian structure? Martin [1] http://www.debian-unofficial.org/ http://www.backpo

Re: Question for all candidates: handle debian-admin more openly

2006-03-13 Thread Steve Langasek
[redirecting to -devel where this belongs] On Mon, Mar 13, 2006 at 12:11:59PM +0100, Martin Schulze wrote: > > > -- > > > Question to the release and archive people: Is there such a > > > requirement? Will such architectures inde

Re: Question for all candidates: handle debian-admin more openly

2006-03-13 Thread Anthony Towns
On Tue, Mar 07, 2006 at 10:56:57PM +0100, Martin Zobel-Helas wrote: > There is no way at the moment to see any progress of the issues in public. > Now my question: > 1.) Do you think it would be a good idea to handle debian-admin more > openly? > 2.) Would you encourage debian-admin to do so?

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