Re: Please drop/replace the use of the term "diversity"

2019-11-28 Thread Sam Hartman
> "Kurt" == Kurt Roeckx writes: Kurt> So I did an s/Init system diversity/multiple init Kurt> systems/. The text in B and C doesn't match exactly, since B Kurt> and C still have "Using its power under Constitution section Kurt> 4.1 (5), ". It is intentional that the text in

Re: Please drop/replace the use of the term "diversity"

2019-11-28 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Thu, Nov 28, 2019 at 09:07:19AM -0500, Sam Hartman wrote: > > I'm definitely fine with Kurt's revision to the title of Proposal A > given the similar change to proposal E and Ian's comments. > > > If I'm permitted to make the following change under A.1(6) (that is, > permitted to make the fol

Re: Please drop/replace the use of the term "diversity" [and 1 more messages]

2019-11-28 Thread Dmitry Bogatov
[2019-11-27 16:19] Ian Jackson > I am not the proposer of any of the options that use the word > "diversity". I have addressed this message to (amongst others) > Dmitry, who is the proponent of the relevant Member-proposed option. > > I do not feel I can predict with confidence what Dmitry's vi

Re: Please drop/replace the use of the term "diversity" [and 1 more messages]

2019-11-28 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Ian Jackson dijo [Wed, Nov 27, 2019 at 04:19:25PM +]: > Chris Lamb writes ("Please drop/replace the use of the term "diversity""): > Enrico writes: > > Something like s/init diversity/support for multiple init systems/ > > I support this proposal. Thank

Re: Please drop/replace the use of the term "diversity"

2019-11-28 Thread Sam Hartman
I'm definitely fine with Kurt's revision to the title of Proposal A given the similar change to proposal E and Ian's comments. If I'm permitted to make the following change under A.1(6) (that is, permitted to make the following change without resetting the clock) I propose to make the following

Re: Please drop/replace the use of the term "diversity"

2019-11-28 Thread Ian Jackson
Micha Lenk writes ("Re: Please drop/replace the use of the term "diversity""): > I support avoiding the term diversity in the context of this GR for > the already mentioned good reasons. However, I would consider > "alternative init systems" a better phrase

Re: Please drop/replace the use of the term "diversity"

2019-11-28 Thread Ian Jackson
Simon McVittie writes ("Re: Please drop/replace the use of the term "diversity""): > I agree. I have been uncomfortable with this in the context of "init > diversity" efforts, but I didn't raise it in the past because I couldn't > articulate clea

Re: Please drop/replace the use of the term "diversity"

2019-11-28 Thread Holger Levsen
On Wed, Nov 27, 2019 at 07:15:17PM +0100, Kurt Roeckx wrote: > I've updated choice 1 and 5 like that. thank you. > Note that the text of choice 1, 2 and 3 still mention it: > "our current position on Init systems, Init system diversity, and the use of > systemd facilities." how about replacing t

Re: Please drop/replace the use of the term "diversity"

2019-11-27 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Wed, Nov 27, 2019 at 12:54:40PM +0100, Enrico Zini wrote: > On Wed, Nov 27, 2019 at 11:27:13AM +, Chris Lamb wrote: > > > May I gently request we replace the use of the word "diversity" > > throughout the "init systems and systemd" General Resolution prior to > > it being subject to a plebi

Re: Please drop/replace the use of the term "diversity"

2019-11-27 Thread Micha Lenk
Hi all, I support avoiding the term diversity in the context of this GR for the already mentioned good reasons. However, I would consider "alternative init systems" a better phrase than "multiple init systems" in this context (if that matters from a non-native speaker). Regards, Micha Am 27.

Re: Please drop/replace the use of the term "diversity"

2019-11-27 Thread Matthias Klumpp
Am Mi., 27. Nov. 2019 um 15:54 Uhr schrieb Simon McVittie : > > On Wed, 27 Nov 2019 at 11:27:13 +, Chris Lamb wrote: > > May I gently request we replace the use of the word "diversity" > > throughout the "init systems and systemd" General Resolution prior to > > it being subject to a plebiscite

Re: Please drop/replace the use of the term "diversity" [and 1 more messages]

2019-11-27 Thread Ian Jackson
Chris Lamb writes ("Please drop/replace the use of the term "diversity""): > May I gently request we replace the use of the word "diversity" > throughout the "init systems and systemd" General Resolution prior to > it being subject to a plebiscite?

Re: Please drop/replace the use of the term "diversity"

2019-11-27 Thread Scott Kitterman
On November 27, 2019 2:54:04 PM UTC, Simon McVittie wrote: >On Wed, 27 Nov 2019 at 11:27:13 +, Chris Lamb wrote: >> May I gently request we replace the use of the word "diversity" >> throughout the "init systems and systemd" General Resolution prior to >> it being subject to a plebiscite? >

Re: Please drop/replace the use of the term "diversity"

2019-11-27 Thread Simon McVittie
On Wed, 27 Nov 2019 at 11:27:13 +, Chris Lamb wrote: > May I gently request we replace the use of the word "diversity" > throughout the "init systems and systemd" General Resolution prior to > it being subject to a plebiscite? Thank you for raising this, Chris. I agree. I have been uncomforta

Re: Please drop/replace the use of the term "diversity"

2019-11-27 Thread Marco d'Itri
la...@debian.org wrote: >May I gently request we replace the use of the word "diversity" >throughout the "init systems and systemd" General Resolution prior to >it being subject to a plebiscite? I fully agree. Also, it is not acceptable for a small minority to frame the whole debate in the terms

Re: Please drop/replace the use of the term "diversity"

2019-11-27 Thread Sam Hartman
> "Enrico" == Enrico Zini writes: Enrico> On Wed, Nov 27, 2019 at 11:27:13AM +, Chris Lamb wrote: >> May I gently request we replace the use of the word "diversity" >> throughout the "init systems and systemd" General Resolution >> prior to it being subject to a plebiscite

+1 (Re: Please drop/replace the use of the term "diversity")

2019-11-27 Thread Holger Levsen
On Wed, Nov 27, 2019 at 12:54:40PM +0100, Enrico Zini wrote: > > May I gently request we replace the use of the word "diversity" > > throughout the "init systems and systemd" General Resolution prior to > > it being subject to a plebiscite? > Thanks for raising this issue, and yes, please! > > Som

Re: Please drop/replace the use of the term "diversity"

2019-11-27 Thread Enrico Zini
On Wed, Nov 27, 2019 at 11:27:13AM +, Chris Lamb wrote: > May I gently request we replace the use of the word "diversity" > throughout the "init systems and systemd" General Resolution prior to > it being subject to a plebiscite? Thanks for raising this issue, and yes, please! Something like

Please drop/replace the use of the term "diversity"

2019-11-27 Thread Chris Lamb
Dear -vote, > […] May I gently request we replace the use of the word "diversity" throughout the "init systems and systemd" General Resolution prior to it being subject to a plebiscite? To be clear, I am neither quibbling with the dictionary definition nor the applicability of this word in a tec