e campaign, I do not wish to come at the last moment and ask for
votes. I'm including a very short platform just to give an idea what was
my motivation behind my candidature (which is same as previous years).
Also, I would like to thank everyone who reached out to me personally
che
Hi,
Em 22/03/2024 16:02, Sruthi Chandran escreveu:
Having 90% of assets in a single TO itself is not a good thing. That is
like putting all the eggs in one basket. I suggested more TOs mainly to
redistribute these assets. I know this would be a herculean task, but I
would like to at least g
On 3/22/24 16:13, Pierre-Elliott Bécue wrote:
Joost van Baal-Ilić wrote on 22/03/2024 at
09:54:35+0100:
On Fri, Mar 22, 2024 at 06:51:48AM +0100, Joost van Baal-Ilić wrote:
PS: I am eagerly awaiting a platform from
Sruthi Chandran . Up to now there still is the old one at
https
Joost van Baal-Ilić wrote on 22/03/2024 at
09:54:35+0100:
> On Fri, Mar 22, 2024 at 06:51:48AM +0100, Joost van Baal-Ilić wrote:
>>
>
>> PS: I am eagerly awaiting a platform from
>> Sruthi Chandran . Up to now there still is the old one at
>> https://www.debia
On Fri, Mar 22, 2024 at 06:51:48AM +0100, Joost van Baal-Ilić wrote:
>
> PS: I am eagerly awaiting a platform from
> Sruthi Chandran . Up to now there still is the old one at
> https://www.debian.org/vote/2021/platforms/srud .
Oops: apparently I missed https://www.debian.org/vote/20
Hi,
[Cc-ing some -events lists, Mail-Followup-To: debian-localgroups@l.d.o.]
On Mon, Mar 20, 2023 at 02:08:11PM +0200, Jonathan Carter wrote at
debian-vote@l.d.o:
> On 2023/03/15 16:29, Paulo Henrique de Lima Santana wrote:
> > I believe this year is a special because it's 30 years of Debian.
> >
Hi Paulo
On 2023/03/15 16:29, Paulo Henrique de Lima Santana wrote:
I believe this year is a special because it's 30 years of Debian.
So we need a speciall call for celebration 😄
I agree, last year I was swamped around Debian's birthday nearly even
missed it altogether. I was thinking then t
Hi Jonathan,
Em 14/03/2023 13:38, Jonathan Carter escreveu:
Hey everyone
Even though I'm the only one running this time, I hope that we can use
the time leading to the election as productive discussion time as we've
done in some previous campaign periods.
I believe this year is a special b
Hey everyone
I suppose some people might be wondering if I'm writing a platform for
this election- and the answer is YES!
I meant to have it ready by the end of the weekend, but got hit by some
tummy bug that's been going around and just couldn't concentrate on the
platform
On Wed, Mar 18, 2020 at 1:35 PM Sean Whitton wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> In his non-platform, Sam wrote
>
> If I were running as DPL, figuring out how to do a better job of
> managing delegations, respecting both the current delegates and the
> needs of the project,
On 2020/03/18 19:33, Sean Whitton wrote:
> In his non-platform, Sam wrote
>
> If I were running as DPL, figuring out how to do a better job of
> managing delegations, respecting both the current delegates and the
> needs of the project, would be my priority for th
Hello,
In his non-platform, Sam wrote
If I were running as DPL, figuring out how to do a better job of
managing delegations, respecting both the current delegates and the
needs of the project, would be my priority for the next year. I
hope that the candidates who step forward
Hi, I'm Brian Gupta, found online as bgupta.
I am running for DPL with a singular goal. The creation of Debian US and EU
Foundations. I largely view my candidacy as a referendum on this goal and its
details. During the campaigning period, I will share the details as part of my
platform,
andr...@fatal.se wrote:
>I just wanted to take the opportunity to say that while I might not
>have thought exactly the same as you in every detail I very much
>appreciate that you've tried to actually show leadership during
>your time as DPL (rather than just being a passive spokesperson for the
[
On Mon, Mar 09, 2020 at 05:23:46PM +0100, Andreas Henriksson wrote:
> I just wanted to take the opportunity to say that while I might not
> have thought exactly the same as you in every detail I very much
> appreciate that you've tried to actually show leadership during
> your time as DPL (rather t
Hello Sam Hartman,
I just wanted to take the opportunity to say that while I might not
have thought exactly the same as you in every detail I very much
appreciate that you've tried to actually show leadership during
your time as DPL (rather than just being a passive spokesperson for the
project).
I'd like to start by acknowledging that and taking a
> moment to be proud of our accomplishments together.
>
> Consensus And Summaries: DH and Git
> ===
>
> In my platform I wrote:
>
> Debian is not fun when we face grueling, long, h
s together.
Consensus And Summaries: DH and Git
===
In my platform I wrote:
Debian is not fun when we face grueling, long, heated discussions. It is
not fun when we are unable to move a project forward because we cannot figure
out how to get our ideas considered
On 18 March 2016 07:40:47 GMT+08:00, Paul Wise wrote:
>To the candidate:
>
>Have you read Lars Wirzenius' not-platform?
>
>http://blog.liw.fi/posts/dpl-2016-not-platform/
>
>Do you have any thoughts on it?
>
>Does Debian need the Social Committee proposed by
Hi,
On 18/03/2016 00:40, Paul Wise wrote:
> To the candidate:
>
> Have you read Lars Wirzenius' not-platform?
>
> http://blog.liw.fi/posts/dpl-2016-not-platform/
>
> Do you have any thoughts on it?
>
> Does Debian need the Social Committee proposed by La
Hi Paul,
On 14/03/2016 04:25, Paul Wise wrote:
> Hi Mehdi,
>
> Lars Wirzenius recently wrote a blog post entitled "Not-platform for
> Debian project leader elections 2016". I wonder if you have any
> thoughts on what he has written there:
>
> http://blog.liw
To the candidate:
Have you read Lars Wirzenius' not-platform?
http://blog.liw.fi/posts/dpl-2016-not-platform/
Do you have any thoughts on it?
Does Debian need the Social Committee proposed by Lars?
--
bye,
pabs
https://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise
Hi Mehdi,
Lars Wirzenius recently wrote a blog post entitled "Not-platform for
Debian project leader elections 2016". I wonder if you have any
thoughts on what he has written there:
http://blog.liw.fi/posts/dpl-2016-not-platform/
--
bye,
pabs
https://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise
Before I start answering mails and get to the campaigning bit, I should
apologise for not writing my platform before the candidacy submission
deadline. I agree (in hindsight) with the general feeling here that
platforms should be available by the time campaigning starts.
As I stated in my
In the “DPL Review” part of your platform, I'm quite surprised to see:
* September: Dunc-Tank.org launch
It feels like sometimes the separation between your two alter egos
(the DPL and the Debian Developer) gets confused as we see the actions
you claim to be from the latter
Hi,
On Tue, 27 Feb 2007 11:52:44 -0600, Debian Project Secretary
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> I plan on publishing whatever I have tomorrow, and limit our
> schedule slippage.
I have just committed the platforms to webwml CVS, so they
should get installed in due course (less than 4 ho
Hi,
So far, I have received 5 out of the 9 platforms, which
squeezes the window for the debates, since we should like to have the
rebuttals up in place before the debates take place.
So, candidates, if you have not already sent in your platform
to [EMAIL PROTECTED], please do
* Mike Hommey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-03-02 14:49:37]:
> If you had to summarize your platform with 3 keywords, what would they be ?
- purpose-driven
- predictable
- warm and welcoming
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I had a nice skiing vacation with my family and am happy to let
you know that my platform is by now up at
http://people.debian.org/~andreas
as I was asked about it by several DDs.
I also sent in the platform to the project's secretary and expect
that it will be put online as soon as he get
Mr. Towns writes:
> 'Cause I don't care too much for money, money can't buy me votes!
Let me be the first to contradict you on this one. I take checks, money
orders, or US currency. Send me a private e-mail for address.
Hmmm, with 7 candidates, this might actually be profitable. I'll send
the hi
The Vancouver Prospectus, SCUD and "small teams" have given me pause for
thought. On the surface, it seems that there cannot be much wrong with
Debianers gathering together physically to talk and make decisions about the
direction of the operating system. I personally had the good fortune to
at
Thomas Bushnell BSG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Anthony Towns writes:
>
> > This is not the case; in most cases the people complaining about
> > ifupdown have made it very clear they're not interested in
> > co-maintenance.
>
> I know one person who is interested in co-maintenance. It doesn'
Anthony Towns writes:
> Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote:
> > Anthony Towns writes:
> >>This is not the case; in most cases the people complaining about
> >>ifupdown have made it very clear they're not interested in
> >>co-maintenance.
> > I know one person who is interested in co-maintenance.
>
> Wel
Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote:
Anthony Towns writes:
This is not the case; in most cases the people complaining about
ifupdown have made it very clear they're not interested in
co-maintenance.
I know one person who is interested in co-maintenance.
Well, from your other mail it looks like you're more i
Anthony Towns writes:
> This is not the case; in most cases the people complaining about
> ifupdown have made it very clear they're not interested in
> co-maintenance.
I know one person who is interested in co-maintenance. It doesn't
really matter what "in most cases" means, what matters is whe
Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote:
Anthony is the "maintainer" of this package, and has refused either to
allow adoption or a co-maintainer arrangement with interested partes.
This is not the case; in most cases the people complaining about
ifupdown have made it very clear they're not interested in co-mai
On Sun, Mar 20, 2005 at 03:26:23PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote:
> My question is: when there is a technical issue, but one developer
> refuses to discuss it with tech-ctte or anyone else, can tech-ctte get
> involved?
Yes.
> It does, but I recall in the past being told that tech-ctte doesn
Raul Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Beyond that... since you've not actually stated any technical issues,
> and since the maintainer of that package is one of the DPL candidates, I
> think you should make an effort to be clear about what you're saying here.
This is a different question, and
Raul Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> As described, this is an administrative issue, rather than a technical
> issue.
Yes, that's correct. At present there is no reason for tech-ctte to
be involved. My example was poorly chosen.
> Beyond that... since you've not actually stated any technic
> Raul Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > What work?
On Sun, Mar 20, 2005 at 02:46:17PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote:
> I have in mind, for example, the ifupdown script. The maintainer has
> not made a maintainer upload for years, and so maintenance of the
> package has been proceding by
Raul Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> What work?
>
> A developer who never acts would have no work to review. The technical
> committee would thus never have any reason to override any decisions
> this developer made -- because there would be no such decisions.
I have in mind, for example,
> > How can the tech-ctte override a developer by not acting?
On Mon, Mar 07, 2005 at 10:55:21AM -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote:
> No, the question is whether a developer (by never acting) can avoid
> tech-ctte review of his work.
What work?
A developer who never acts would have no work to rev
> Raul Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > There's a difference between a topic as a whole, and a sub-thread which
> > does not appear to be going anywhere useful.
On Mon, Mar 14, 2005 at 10:09:07AM +, MJ Ray wrote:
> Sure. I have asked the questions on-topic here (summarised at
> http://deb
Thomas Bushnell BSG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> MJ Ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > Sure. I have asked the questions on-topic here (summarised at
> > http://debian.edv-bus.at/vote-2005/communication-exclusion.html
> > http://debian.edv-bus.at/vote-2005/communication-debian-women.html )
> > and
MJ Ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Sure. I have asked the questions on-topic here (summarised at
> http://debian.edv-bus.at/vote-2005/communication-exclusion.html
> http://debian.edv-bus.at/vote-2005/communication-debian-women.html )
> and hope candidates will answer.
Both of those pages are un
Raul Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> There's a difference between a topic as a whole, and a sub-thread which
> does not appear to be going anywhere useful.
Sure. I have asked the questions on-topic here (summarised at
http://debian.edv-bus.at/vote-2005/communication-exclusion.html
http://debia
> Raul Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > [Note: I originally posted this to another list -- thinking this whole
> > debian-women thread was off topic for debian-vote. M.J. Ray
> > indicated only that he thinks debian-vote is the appropriate list, so
> > I'm reposting it here, with minor edi
Raul Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [Note: I originally posted this to another list -- thinking this whole
> debian-women thread was off topic for debian-vote. M.J. Ray
> indicated only that he thinks debian-vote is the appropriate list, so
> I'm reposting it here, with minor edits.]
What
MJ Ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Right, you're still avoiding the questions and following your own
> agenda on some misunderstood point. I'm not keen on any further
> off-topic, so I just ask you to reread my messages and think
> whether you read the "offensive" messages for the point I made.
Thomas Bushnell BSG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> MJ Ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > > > to discrimination, but I was told that wasn't a list purpose:
> > > > are you saying it is? Why do you know better than others?
> > I notice that you do not directly answer any question.
> I am saying tha di
[Note: I originally posted this to another list -- thinking this whole
debian-women thread was off topic for debian-vote. M.J. Ray
indicated only that he thinks debian-vote is the appropriate list, so
I'm reposting it here, with minor edits.]
Raul Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > And, per
MJ Ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > > > If you think this is *wrong*, then why? Because you have a right to
> > > > be responded to no matter what you say, even when you are hostile to
> > > > the purposes the list was created for?
> > > I'm not hostile to balancing debian's composition. I'm
Thomas Bushnell BSG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> MJ Ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [...]
> > Not in that sense, but that sense doesn't follow directly from
> > the word "policy". I'd expect someone consistently ignoring it
> > to be corrected, but ICBW.
> It's not policy regardless. It's a recomm
On Sat, Mar 12, 2005 at 04:44:19AM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote:
> martin f krafft wrote:
>> Anyway, how are you going to ensure that we don't scream at each
>> other over VoIP lines? Traffic control? :)
> High frequency filtering? :)
No, come on, this would be discriminatory for women, youth and
MJ Ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Thomas Bushnell BSG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > The idea to ignore trolls is hardly new, or unusual. Nor is it a
> > "policy", in the sense that anyone is ordered to ignore them under
> > pain of expulsion. [...]
>
> Not in that sense, but that sense doesn'
martin f krafft wrote:
Anyway, how are you going to ensure that we don't scream at each
other over VoIP lines? Traffic control? :)
High frequency filtering? :)
Cheers,
aj
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also sprach Angus Lees <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005.03.11.1007 +0100]:
> As a general strategy, I'd like to move a lot of the actual discussion
> off the mailing lists and into some higher bandwidth, higher turnover
> medium.
You seem to imply moving from asynchronous to synchronous media. How
are y
Thomas Bushnell BSG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The idea to ignore trolls is hardly new, or unusual. Nor is it a
> "policy", in the sense that anyone is ordered to ignore them under
> pain of expulsion. [...]
Not in that sense, but that sense doesn't follow directly from
the word "policy". I'd ex
At Thu, 10 Mar 2005 03:43:48 +0100, martin f krafft wrote:
> > My sincere apologies for the delay.
> Note up front: I have not yet looked at your platform.
[...]
> Could you please state in public that you did not use the delay in
> any way to gain an advantage by looking
MJ Ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> The debian-women list FAQ is on http://women.alioth.debian.org/faqs/
> and the odd policy is under "Miscellaneous" thus:
>
>Just like every other online community, there will probably
>be the occasional troll. Do not make the mistake of treating
>t
Thomas Bushnell BSG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> MJ Ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > See top and tail of <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > (also at http://lists.debian.org/debian-vote/2005/03/msg00471.html )
> > which is as explicit as it will get for now. Not enough time.
> Nothing in there is a FAQ, to
MJ Ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Thomas Bushnell BSG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > So then what is your complaint about the "debate-killing silence
> > policy"? Maybe you should be more explicit.
>
> See top and tail of <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> (also at http://lists.debian.org/debian-vote/2005
Thomas Bushnell BSG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> So then what is your complaint about the "debate-killing silence
> policy"? Maybe you should be more explicit.
See top and tail of <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
(also at http://lists.debian.org/debian-vote/2005/03/msg00471.html )
which is as explicit as it w
MJ Ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Thomas Bushnell BSG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > MJ Ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > > For example, "Searching for Safety Online" (which recommends
> > > "pro-active interventions") has been used to justify the
> > > debate-killing silence policy in the Li
Thomas Bushnell BSG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> MJ Ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > For example, "Searching for Safety Online" (which recommends
> > "pro-active interventions") has been used to justify the
> > debate-killing silence policy in the List FAQ, which seems just
> > plain broken.
> W
MJ Ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> For example, "Searching for Safety Online" (which recommends
> "pro-active interventions") has been used to justify the
> debate-killing silence policy in the List FAQ, which seems just
> plain broken.
Wait, you think that people have an obligation to reply to
Erinn Clark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > could get a voice within the debian-women culture. Probably
> > a lot of the time that will be directing to FAQs or codes,
> > but there's always something not covered there. Using a
> > smaller number of people makes it easier to spot new conduct
> > FAQs
* MJ Ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005:03:10 14:01 +]:
> I was pretty sure I put at least one suggestion through a bug
> tracker. My memory is not brilliant. Others were almost all
> off-list because of the atmosphere, so can't be shown in public
> and that means some here wouldn't believe it. :-/
Erinn Clark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> * MJ Ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005:03:10 10:33 +]:=20
> > Some of my suggestions have been accepted previously. Damned
> > if I can find the right bug tracker entries for them, though.
> Yeah, a bug tracker might be nice, but it seems a bit overboard [..
* MJ Ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005:03:10 10:33 +]:
> Matthew Palmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Thu, Mar 10, 2005 at 02:36:49AM +, MJ Ray wrote:
> > > If it's fair to call one-sided example genders on www.debian as
> > > a bug, let's call it a bug where it happens across all debian.
Matthew Palmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 10, 2005 at 02:36:49AM +, MJ Ray wrote:
> > If it's fair to call one-sided example genders on www.debian as
> > a bug, let's call it a bug where it happens across all debian.
> That's a fair call. So are you going to follow d-women's exam
MJ Ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > I think you're confusing that project with a web page. [...]
>
> Not really. The project maintains the web page. The project
> has a mailing list. On both of these and some others, when a
> choice is made on how to include or exclude from something,
> sex is
MJ Ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> linuxchix specifically exclude men from some meetings and
> facilities. Absence of a similar group was a feature. It's a
> shame that things deteriorated to the point one was created.
We don't have a group that excludes men from its meetings and
facilities.
On Thu, Mar 10, 2005 at 02:36:49AM +, MJ Ray wrote:
> If it's fair to call one-sided example genders on www.debian as
> a bug, let's call it a bug where it happens across all debian.
That's a fair call. So are you going to follow d-women's example, get
involved in the project you feel is a pr
Dear Angus:
In your platform, you state:
> I have a few ideas about how to improve communication within Debian
> and I will try to bring an attitude of tolerance and more efficient
> communication to the mailing lists.
Could you please be more specific and give us more details about
th
also sprach Amaya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005.03.09.2107 +0100]:
> > Why is it called debian-women?
>
> Because the effort, the project, is aimed at increasing the
> involvement of women in Debian. So debian-women as a name made
> perfect sense :)
I had a deeper question in mind, but failed to be
also sprach Angus Lees <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005.03.08.0419 +0100]:
> Now available at http://people.debian.org/~gus/dpl-platform.html
>
> My sincere apologies for the delay.
Note up front: I have not yet looked at your platform.
I am the first to understand what it means to be h
Raul Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> And, personally, I really don't see the relevance in the context of
> this web page. If you're tired, and want to just get stuff done, don't
> you have your own web pages? [...]
A variation on the "you can discriminate in your own space" suggestion.
Not a
> Amaya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...]
> > [...] As there's is absolutely no seggregation in the debian-women
> > environment, men can benefit, and I'm sure *do* benefit, from this
> > wellcoming climate too.
On Wed, Mar 09, 2005 at 11:52:50PM +, MJ Ray wrote:
> Is a bus with a whites-only
The secret is out. A new cabal is trying to cleanse Debian of women through
pure irritation and MJ is in on the action. Gentlemen, steel yourselves for a
future consisting entirely of endless pedantic hair-splitting over policy,
very little actual technical work and homoerotic all-male skinny di
Amaya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...]
> When I first became a developer, I found debian-devel frightening,
> hostile and very intimidating, I must admit this was not so because of
> gender issues. [...]
In fact, I suspect the correlation is not very strong.
> [...] more of a personal issue "ok,
On Wed, Mar 09, 2005 at 05:55:48PM +0100, martin f krafft wrote:
> also sprach Thomas Bushnell BSG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005.03.06.0242 +0100]:
> > But debian-women contributors include both men and women.
>
> Why is it called debian-women?
One of the benefits of starting a project is that you ge
martin f krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> also sprach Thomas Bushnell BSG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005.03.06.0242 +0100]:
> > But debian-women contributors include both men and women.
>
> Why is it called debian-women? Aren't there also men, some shy, some
> merely put off by the roughness of th
Em Qua, 2005-03-09 às 17:07, Amaya escreveu:
> When I first became a developer, I found debian-devel frightening,
> hostile and very intimidating, I must admit this was not so because of
> gender issues.
I would like to remember everybody the mencal flamewar (one of the most
stupid flamewars I hav
Hi Martin!
martin f krafft wrote:
> Why is it called debian-women?
Because the effort, the project, is aimed at increasing the involvement
of women in Debian. So debian-women as a name made perfect sense :)
> Aren't there also men, some shy, some merely put off by the roughness
> of this pro
On Wed, Mar 09, 2005 at 11:14:26AM +0100, Michael Banck wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 09, 2005 at 12:54:47AM -0600, Ean Schuessler wrote:
> > Oh. Ooops. I'm not running for DPL am I? Uh, will one of you guys add
> > "database of free software capable equipment" to your pla
also sprach Thomas Bushnell BSG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005.03.06.0242 +0100]:
> But debian-women contributors include both men and women.
Why is it called debian-women? Aren't there also men, some shy, some
merely put off by the roughness of this project, or many other
reasons, who would welcome a
Hi, Ben Burton wrote:
>
>> I am concerned that a debian-nazi list ...
>
> This means the argument ends now, right?
Given some of the questionable content on the site Jonathan Walther
maintains:
No.
(Godwin's Law isn't invoked if the content it refers to is on-topi
Hi, Kevin B. McCarty wrote:
> MJ Ray wrote:
>
>> Where are these articles posted? As a package sponsor, it could
>> be a useful resource for me and my maintainers. I didn't find
>> them anywhere obvious on http://www.debian.org/devel/join/
>
> [ Locations, mostly on women.alioth.debian.org ]
Th
Op wo, 09-03-2005 te 09:00 +, schreef Henning Makholm:
> Scripsit Angus Lees <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > I'm concerned that the long-term goal is going to suffer by forcing
> > users to make the choice between (a) going somewhere else or (b)
> > exposing themselves to poorly supported software from
I'm saying the goal is widespread adoption of free software and its
ideals. We should tread carefully; if we alienate too many people
along the way we don't do our cause any favours.
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* Angus Lees <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [050309 05:18]:
> What I'm trying to say is that by
> removing all these things from main (imo) too quickly and too early,
> we have instead *encouraged* all our users to use non-free.
So non-free is evil, but non-free software is necessary. Thus we should
allow ou
Scripsit Angus Lees <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To give a concrete example: My laptop has an extremely comon centrino
> (ipw2200) wireless card. To support this card under Debian/Linux, I
> need to install packages from contrib and download a firmware blob by
> hand. To simply have the HTML4 specifica
On Wed, Mar 09, 2005 at 12:54:47AM -0600, Ean Schuessler wrote:
> Oh. Ooops. I'm not running for DPL am I? Uh, will one of you guys add
> "database of free software capable equipment" to your platform? I'll help
> write it.
Just do it[tm]. You don't need a p
these
companies we should provide a database of vendors who sell laptops that are
verified to be 100% free-software supported. Hit 'em where it hurts, the
wallet!
Oh. Ooops. I'm not running for DPL am I? Uh, will one of you guys add
"database of free software capable equipment&qu
Right, we seem to agree quite well on the separation of the DPL's
personal opinions and the actions he should perform as DPL. So your
concerns seem to boil down to two things:
- You are not sure what I (personally) want to change about Debian.
- You are concerned that I may (as DPL) want to und
Marco d'Itri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Sure, and the obituaries are a discrimination on the basis of death.
Not a type of descrimination that I object to, as I could easily
die if I wanted to. ($DEITY knows, I spend enough time keeping alive.)
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>No, I think you see it but you disagree whether the directory
>of women or the current list charter is discriminating on the
>basis of sex, and the severity or remedies of past incidents.
Sure, and the obituaries are a discrimination on the basis of death.
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Marc
On Tue, Mar 08, 2005 at 01:03:32AM -0800, Jonathan Walther wrote:
> There are no differences. The debian-women mailing list lacks focus,
> unity, and agreement. On the one hand, people like Matthew Palmer say
> "we are already going forward quietly, taking effective action to change
> Debian from
On Tue, Mar 08, 2005 at 02:30:07AM +, MJ Ray wrote:
> No, I think you see it but you disagree whether the directory
> of women or the current list charter is discriminating on the
> basis of sex, and the severity or remedies of past incidents.
There's pages in the mail archives where only peop
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