Re: tag2upload - request for DPL action

2025-05-09 Thread Daniel Gröber
On Fri, May 09, 2025 at 11:43:22AM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: > We believe we have one volunteer already - Daniel Gröber. It would be > much better if this task wasn't done by Sean or me. Daniel: thanks, > and are you still up for this ? Yes. --Daniel <3 signature.asc

DebConf costs and locations, was: Re: Q to all candidates: future of Debian finances

2025-04-06 Thread Daniel Lange
rely willing to answer questions from any project member. Kind regards, Daniel

Why Debian is dying (Was: Call for volunteers and GR draft: tag2upload key installation)

2025-04-05 Thread Daniel Gröber
ng if that's your goal. I won't. # Support Ian, you have my full support in doing what is necessary to stop the bleeding and I'll be happy to volunteer to help with the dak hack job if that still makes sense with Simon's keyring idea on the table. --Daniel On Fri, Apr 04, 202

Re: DebConf

2025-03-22 Thread Daniel Lenharo de Souza
ue to be spectacular! Best Regards -- Daniel Lenharo Curitiba - Brazil www.lenharo.eti.br 31D8 0509 460E FB31 DF4B 9629 FB0E 132D DB0A A5B1 OpenPGP_0xFB0E132DDB0AA5B1.asc Description: OpenPGP public key OpenPGP_signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Isn't that just source format 3.0 (git)? (Was: [RFC] General Resolution to deploy tag2upload)

2024-06-17 Thread Daniel Gröber
eeping me from even trying. I never could figure out why exactly it didn't go forward though? It's even in [dpkg-source] already so what happened there? [dpkg-source]: https://manpages.debian.org/unstable/dpkg-dev/dpkg-source.1.en.html#Format:_3.0_(git) --Daniel signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [RFC] General Resolution to deploy tag2upload

2024-06-15 Thread Daniel Gröber
ats what you're seeing. What bugs are you looking at? Please be more concrete. Thanks, --Daniel

Re: call for seconds - separate proposal text for 2023/vote_002

2023-11-29 Thread Daniel Kahn Gillmor
On Wed 2023-11-22 19:31:34 +, Bill Allombert wrote: > Le Wed, Nov 22, 2023 at 07:16:48PM +0100, Bart Martens a écrit : >> >> The Debian project asks the EU to not draw a line between commercial >> and non-commercial use of FOSS. > > But the EU already does, all the time, really. This is simply

Re: General Resolution: Liquidate donated assets as soon as possible

2022-06-20 Thread Daniel Lange
I have a similar thinking. In particular, Debian has a treasurer team that should be able to make a reasonable decision about this without us having to drag the entire project in it. Were they consulted about this? Did they disagree with you, and is this your attempt at overriding them? No, there

Re: Renaming the FTP Masters

2021-11-11 Thread Daniel Kahn Gillmor
On Thu 2021-11-11 07:56:24 -0500, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > 1/ The assertion "we all can acknowledge is confused and outdated" is >far fom the case. This and other discussions on the matter are >strong evidence that "we can all acknowledge" is a >mischaracterization. I'm legitimatel

Re: Renaming the FTP Masters

2021-11-10 Thread Daniel Kahn Gillmor
On Sat 2021-11-06 11:32:35 +0100, Martin Steigerwald wrote: > Pierre-Elliott Bécue - 06.11.21, 11:06:58 CET: >> That being said, the name is indeed outdated, and "Debian Archive >> Team" sounds quite nice. > > Agreed. I like this name. Yes, please. "Debian Archive Team" is fine. This is fair amo

Statements from the FSF board and Richard Stallman

2021-04-13 Thread Daniel Lange
The board of the Free Software Foundation (FSF) have issued a statement regarding the election of Richard Stallman: https://www.fsf.org/news/statement-of-fsf-board-on-election-of-richard-stallman Richard Stallman has issued a statement as well: https://www.fsf.org/news/rms-addresses-the-free-so

Re: Announcing new decision making procedures for Debian

2021-04-01 Thread Daniel Reichelt
On 01.04.21 10:19, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > Bonus points for writing the entire reply as an attached .doc, or even > better .ppt, file (MS Office 1997 version or earlier). Additional bonus points for using Comic Sans! Cheers Daniel signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: Announcing new decision making procedures for Debian

2021-03-31 Thread Daniel Lenharo de Souza
rtant enough to deserve their real effort. If i have time to spam to list, my opinion will be stronger than a opinion from a person who are doing an important work and can't reply a lot e-mails? Is it really serious? Best regards -- Daniel Lenharo de Souza Debian Brasil FB0E13

Re: "rms-open-letter" choice 3: do not, as the project itself, sign any letter regarding rms

2021-03-26 Thread Daniel Lenharo
Em 26/03/2021 07:24, Jonas Smedegaard escreveu: Seconded - on the condition that Timo Weingärtner replaces his previous proposal with one one including above edit. - Jonas Same here! -- Daniel Lenharo Curitiba - BR OpenPGP_0xFB0E132DDB0AA5B1.asc Description: application/pgp-keys

Re: Willingness to share a position statement?

2021-03-25 Thread Daniel Lenharo
posicion. OK. Even don't need to explicit how individuals voted. however, just a statement, even done by DPL, i don't feel comfortable with this. cheers -- Daniel Lenharo Curitiba - BR OpenPGP_0xFB0E132DDB0AA5B1.asc Description: application/pgp-keys OpenPGP_signature Descriptio

Re: Willingness to share a position statement?

2021-03-24 Thread Daniel Lenharo
llow it if it completes within my term. -Jonathan i didn't understand why people can't sign the letter individually. I wouldn't like to see my name associate with an action like this. cheers -- Daniel Lenharo Curitiba - BR OpenPGP_0xFB0E132DDB0AA5B1.asc Descript

Re: [draft] Cancel this year's in-person Debian Developers Conference DebConf20

2020-05-22 Thread Daniel Lenharo de Souza
I would like to propose. > > Cancel this year's in-person Debian Developers Conference DebConf20 > -- > Best Regards! -- Daniel Lenharo de Souza Curitiba - Brasil signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: Discussion on eventual transition away from source packages

2019-04-19 Thread Daniel Kahn Gillmor
On Fri 2019-03-22 09:32:55 +0100, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > I'm probably missing something, but it doesn't sound like a lot of work > to me? It's "just" a service that: > - gets notified of the existence of a git repo + tag to upload > - fetches that git repo + tag > - checks signature / confirm that

Re: Bikeshedding

2019-04-01 Thread Daniel Kahn Gillmor
On Mon 2019-04-01 15:17:27 -0400, Louis-Philippe Véronneau wrote: > On 19-03-31 03 h 39, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: >> >> Statement: every Debian package must be maintained in Git on salsa and >> every Debian Developer with upload rights to the archive should have >> commit/push right to every pack

Re: Debian Project Leader Elections 2019: Call for nominations

2019-03-14 Thread Daniel Lenharo
Hi On 3/14/19 8:43 AM, Jonathan Carter wrote: > > On 2019/03/14 13:34, Joerg Jaspert wrote: >> Soo, lets ensure we do not have another week: >> >> I hereby nominate myself for the DPL election 2019. > > I hereby nominate myself for the 2019 DPL election. Thanks yo

Re: Debian Project Leader Elections 2019: Call for nominations

2019-03-12 Thread Daniel Kahn Gillmor
On Tue 2019-03-12 08:45:46 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > Bdale Garbee writes: > >> Chris, thank you for your service! Two terms as DPL is a serious >> contribution and commitment to Debian, and I greatly appreciate it! > > +1. Thank you so much for everything you've done for Debian over the past

Re: Debian Project Leader Elections 2019: Call for nominations

2019-03-10 Thread Daniel
On 10/03/2019 04:44, Steve Langasek wrote: > > This is an obviously untrue signature. > Why do you want to taint the elections with more bullying, insulting and disrespectful comments?

Re: Debian Project Leader Elections 2019: Call for nominations

2019-03-09 Thread Daniel
g on this list. Nobody should feel an obligation to serve out their term in a role like this. In Australian politics, there are no fixed terms and betting on when the PM will decide to call an election is all part of the fun. Regards, Daniel -- Debian Developer signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [Call for seconds] GR: diversity statement for the Debian Project

2019-02-22 Thread Daniel Roldán Millan
Enviado desde mi iPhone

Re: [Call for seconds] GR: diversity statement for the Debian Project

2019-02-22 Thread Daniel Roldán Millan
Enviado desde mi iPhone

Re: GR Proposal: replace "Chairman" with "Chair" throughout the Debian Constitution

2016-07-21 Thread Daniel Kahn Gillmor
On Thu 2016-07-21 11:15:57 +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > A "Chairman" is a person. A "Chair" may be an object. > > I don't think anyone will misinterpret your proposed new wording into > thinking the TC has a physical chair that someone sits on, but the > s/Chairmain/Chair/ you apply does to me s

Re: Lars Wirzenius' not-platform?

2016-03-19 Thread Daniel Pocock
On 18 March 2016 07:40:47 GMT+08:00, Paul Wise wrote: >To the candidate: > >Have you read Lars Wirzenius' not-platform? > >http://blog.liw.fi/posts/dpl-2016-not-platform/ > >Do you have any thoughts on it? > >Does Debian need the Social Committee proposed by Lars? I feel that more personal contac

encouraging events?

2016-03-19 Thread Daniel Pocock
rs[1] If Irish developers were to try and organize a MiniDebConf for the weekend of 18-19 March 2017, would you be happy to support that as DPL and provide some funding if necessary to make it happen? Happy St Patrick's Day everybody Regards, Daniel 1.http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-13166265

Re: quantity of DPL candidates?

2016-03-15 Thread Daniel Pocock
ody else divide it up. To put it another way, if the DPL can only make three Debian decisions per day without impacting his quota of decisions for job, family, etc, what should they be? Regards, Daniel 1. http://www.wired.com/2011/04/judges-mental-fatigue/

Re: quantity of DPL candidates?

2016-03-14 Thread Daniel Pocock
they vote NOTA, they should also consider asking Mehdi to withdraw or making the concerns public. I'm not aware of any such concerns myself. Regards, Daniel

Re: draft alternative proposal: fix problem at the root

2014-12-02 Thread Daniel Kahn Gillmor
On 12/02/2014 06:13 PM, Jakub Wilk wrote: > This is an interesting proposal. But it's a big change, so I think it > should be thoroughly discussed before I could second it. I agree some discussion would be useful, but seems like it's a lot simpler than all the other noodling with term-limits tha

Re: Re-Proposal - preserve freedom of choice of init systems

2014-10-17 Thread Daniel Kahn Gillmor
On 10/17/2014 12:06 PM, Ian Jackson wrote: > Daniel Kahn Gillmor writes ("Re: Re-Proposal - preserve freedom of choice of > init systems"): >> nevertheless, runit behaves differently when it is pid 1 than when it is >> used in a subordinate role to another initsystem.

Re: Re-Proposal - preserve freedom of choice of init systems

2014-10-17 Thread Daniel Kahn Gillmor
On 10/17/2014 11:26 AM, Ian Jackson wrote: > Daniel Kahn Gillmor writes ("Re: Re-Proposal - preserve freedom of choice of > init systems"): >> The implication here appears to be troubling for any upstream who wants >> to rely on specific features of a given initsystem.

Re: Alternative proposal: support for alternative init systems is desirable but not mandatory

2014-10-17 Thread Daniel Kahn Gillmor
On 10/17/2014 03:44 AM, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > Hi, > > It is now clear that we will have a vote on this issue. I think that we > should use this opportunity to clarify the Project's position, and that's > not something that would be achieved if "Further Discussion" were to > win. > > I am theref

Re: Re-Proposal - preserve freedom of choice of init systems

2014-10-17 Thread Daniel Kahn Gillmor
On 10/17/2014 10:33 AM, Ian Jackson wrote: > If the fix is not easy then we have three options: the release team > mark it `jessie-ignore', the GNOME maintainers fix it, or GNOME is > removed from jessie. The implication here appears to be troubling for any upstream who wants to rely on specific f

Re: GR: Selecting the default init system for Debian

2014-01-19 Thread Daniel Pocock
On 19/01/14 03:25, Ben Hutchings wrote: > >> In general, I've been quite unhappy with the excessive invocation of >> the TC recently, with developers seeming to view this as a first, >> rather than absolute last, resort. > [...] > > Constitutionally, a GR is the last resort in that it can overrule

Re: [all candidates] Removing or limiting DD rights?

2013-03-29 Thread Daniel Kahn Gillmor
On 03/29/2013 01:46 PM, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 01:35:59PM -0400, Chris Knadle wrote: >> I'm open to other theories as to the cause. I am, however, a bit surprised >> that you'd completely dismiss the theory I've proposed so quickly. >> let you know that I regularly bu

Re: Comments on the constitution?

2011-08-30 Thread Daniel Kahn Gillmor
On 08/30/2011 12:29 PM, Gunnar Wolf wrote: > Humm… An idea could be: I like Gunnar's proposal. Some nitpicks for clarity: > ‣ The term is defined to be for one year, with the possibility of one > automatic renewal > ‣ If by (election date + 10 months) This should be something like "between (e

RE: DPL 2011: Final call for votes

2011-04-14 Thread Daniel Lane
Unsubscribe. Thank You, Dan Lane Senior Systems Administrator The American Board of Family Medicine, Inc. (859) 269-5626 - Ext. 1293 (859) 338-8734 - Cell Phone dl...@theabfm.org - Email "This email message and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. If you are not the intended re

DPL consultations with the community [was: Re: Question to all (other) candidates]

2010-03-23 Thread Daniel Kahn Gillmor
Hi Wouter-- You probably didn't mean to have this to come out this way, but: On 03/23/2010 01:49 PM, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > Charles: > > In your platform, in the "Program" section, you mention four ideas that > could reasonable be described as being about the things that, > respectively, the D

Re: Q for all candidates: license and copyright requirements

2010-03-23 Thread Daniel Kahn Gillmor
On 03/23/2010 11:03 AM, Charles Plessy wrote: > The second option aims at clarifying what is the source of the Debian > operating > system. It is controversial. To some of us, "the Debian operating system" is at least as much about the packaged source as it is about the packaged binaries. If y

Re: Question to all Candidates: 2IC

2010-03-12 Thread Daniel Baumann
thanks for the detailed answer, good summary of what is also my impression (that i have about it, as an unqualified observer). -- Address:Daniel Baumann, Burgunderstrasse 3, CH-4562 Biberist Email: daniel.baum...@panthera-systems.net Internet: http://people.panthera

Re: Question to all Candidates: 2IC

2010-03-12 Thread Daniel Baumann
On 03/12/2010 10:55 AM, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: I personally don't plan to have neither a DPL board, nor a 2IC. why not? -- Address: Daniel Baumann, Burgunderstrasse 3, CH-4562 Biberist Email: daniel.baum...@panthera-systems.net Internet: http://people.pan

Re: [Amendment] Reaffirm the GR process

2009-03-25 Thread Daniel Baumann
Kurt Roeckx wrote: > What about: > General Resolution sponsorship requirements sounds like package sponsorship requirements to me. therefore i suggest to be extra clear and change it to 'Requirements for General Resolution Sponsorship'. -- Address:Daniel Baumann, Burgun

Re: GR proposal: Do not require listing of copyright holders

2009-03-22 Thread Daniel Dickinson
7;s not yet clear what is required, then clear that up first, already. I don't care if someone won't do maintenance if they can't maintain according the legal standards that could cause ftpmaster *personal* legal trouble. Regards, Daniel -- And that's my crabbing done for

Re: Results of the Lenny release GR

2009-01-12 Thread Daniel Dickinson
Robert, I'm not a DD but I have been watching the lists and I think you are flogging a dead horse, one that has been buried in fact. Choose your battles and you'll have more good will when you make constructive proposal and actions post-lenny. As for trying to bully people about consitution and

Re: Results for General Resolution: Lenny and resolving DFSG violations

2008-12-29 Thread Daniel Moerner
e revised to be less absolutist. Debian needs such flexibility, in my opinion. Since I'm not a developer, I don't feel qualified to really speak to such a change. Daniel [0] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dualism -- Daniel Moerner -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-vote-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org

Re: I hereby resign as secretary

2008-12-19 Thread Daniel Jacobowitz
nd that's it. +1. I'm dropping about a mailing list a year, which is a pretty slow exit... -- Daniel Jacobowitz CodeSourcery -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-vote-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org

Re: Technical committee resolution

2008-03-29 Thread Daniel Jacobowitz
cedents; I'm talking about similar groups I've served on in the past. -- Daniel Jacobowitz CodeSourcery -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Debian Maintainers GR Proposal

2007-06-22 Thread Daniel Burrows
Sadly, I'm having trouble coming up with a nice, catchy name that would avoid confusion. Something like "Debian Outside Contributor" is clear enough, but it's more awkward and sounds kind of negative to my ear. Does anyone have a better suggestion? Daniel -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: A question to the Debian community ...

2007-05-18 Thread Daniel Jacobowitz
you not respond to discussions about it; that seems to work. -- Daniel Jacobowitz CodeSourcery -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Question to the candidates: inclusion of the kFreeBSD-* ports

2007-02-27 Thread Daniel Jacobowitz
s good as it gets -- and running the risk of in the > end not achieving much at all. Totally agreed. Also, I think it was both courteous and wise to try to respond promptly; if you let a question sit, in my experience, it becomes harder to answer. -- Daniel Jacobowitz CodeSourcery

Re: DPL 2007

2007-02-24 Thread Daniel J. Priem
Signed Part:Bad signature from 18A0CC8D5706A4B4 Simon Richter <[EMAIL > PROTECTED]>]] > Hello, > > I hereby nominate myself as a candidate for the post of the Debian > Project Leader in 2007. > >Simon > [[End of PGP Signed Part]] -- .''`. : :' : Danie

Not a abusable

2006-11-16 Thread Beau Daniel
The Shorts are out! The Gap is Good! Take advantage! Company: Red Reef Laboratories Symbol: RREF Price: $0.215 RREF has been on a steady rise for a week with HUGE volume. Now the shorts created a gap providing a second chance to get in on RREF. It's $0.215, and will climb hard back to $0.40 by

Re: Another proposal

2006-10-03 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Wed, Oct 04, 2006 at 12:21:08AM +0200, Josselin Mouette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say: > Le samedi 30 septembre 2006 à 20:53 -0700, Daniel Burrows a écrit : > > --- snip here --- > > == Reaffirm support for Anthony Towns as the Project Leader == &

Re: Another proposal

2006-09-30 Thread Daniel Burrows
wording (whether or not you accept the above change): --- snip here --- The Debian project reaffirms its support of Anthony Towns as the Debian project leader. However, it neither endorses nor supports any projects that Mr Towns may lead or participate in outside Debian. ---

Re: [AMENDMENT]: Release Etch now, with source-less but legal and freely licensed firmware

2006-09-29 Thread Daniel Ruoso
Debian Etch, > | as long as we are legally allowed to do so, and the firmware is > | distributed upstream under a license that complies with the DFSG.=20 > ` I second this proposal. Daniel Ruoso signature.asc Description: Esta é uma parte de mensagem assinada digitalmente

Re: {SPAM} Counter-proposal: reaffirm support for the elected DPL

2006-09-21 Thread Daniel Ruoso
s not the result of a decision of the Debian Project. The Debian Project wishes success to projects funding Debian or helping towards the release of Etch. - I second this proposal with or without typos... And I hope my ISP's MTA doesn't mess with my signature... :) daniel signat

Re: kernel firmwares: GR proposal

2006-08-31 Thread Daniel Ruoso
Qui, 2006-08-31 às 09:19 +0100, Daniel Ruoso escreveu: > Qua, 2006-08-30 às 23:06 +0200, Frederik Schueler escreveu: > > So, we propose this GR: > > > > 1. We affirm that our Priorities are our users and the free software > > community (Social Contract #4); > >

Re: kernel firmwares: GR proposal

2006-08-31 Thread Daniel Ruoso
s part of Debian Etch, without further conditions. Seconded. Daniel Ruoso -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

One non-DD's thoughts on dfsg-freeness and firmware

2006-08-27 Thread Daniel Dickinson
nd the politics are important to me, but I'm undecided about whether that's enough in the face of noob-friendliness problems. Another factor is what I can find out about other distros' legal and/or political situations). Cheers, Daniel Please cc as I am not subscribed to -vote (as I

Proposal: Apologize for releasing etch with sourceless/non-free firmware

2006-08-25 Thread Daniel Ruoso
ease etch, and, therefore, the next Debian release, codename etch, will still contain sourceless/non-free firmwares. The Debian Project apologize for this, and will continue to work on finding a way to solve this issue. I think this needs a 3:1 majority... Daniel signature.asc Description

Question for candidate Schuldei

2006-03-16 Thread Daniel Stone
nt Andreas, If you lie and seek to misrepresent the truth, to your own DPL team, why do you expect to be trusted with the entire Project? Additionally, do you believe that a DPL team can be effective and successful if they are provided with incorrect information? Cheers, Daniel signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Questions for candidate Walther

2006-03-16 Thread Daniel Stone
ocess were successful? Would you delegate in this manner again? If not, how do you propose to handle delegations in your term? Looking forward to your responses. Cheers, Daniel [0]: http://lists.debian.org/debian-vote/2005/03/msg00494.html [1]: Please feel free to correct this figure. sig

Re: {SPAM} Question about GFDL licensed works

2006-02-13 Thread Daniel Ruoso
o the transparent copies problem... As I said before, I still didn't buy this argument, but I have to admit it has some logic... daniel -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Amendment to GR on GFDL, and the changes to the Social Contract

2006-02-13 Thread Daniel Ruoso
rrelevant. Are you sure? I just explained it does changes DFSG3, and therefore, it should *as the constitution says* require a 3:1 majority. The constitution would be violated if manoj didn't apply that. daniel -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Anton's amendment

2006-02-03 Thread Daniel Ruoso
n't force you to use in the same way and with the same text the original author did. daniel -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: {SPAM} Re: Anton's amendment

2006-02-03 Thread Daniel Ruoso
g text asking the user to press OK, I still can display 3 lines (that's all needed to satisfy this clause) with an text by myself in a splash screen. And only if it's an interative program. There is nothing here that looks like invariant sections. daniel -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, ema

Re: Anton's amendment

2006-02-03 Thread Daniel Ruoso
t freedom 3 is more restrictive than freedom 1. It still looks like you're forcing it to mean what you want... daniel -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Anton's amendment

2006-02-02 Thread Daniel Ruoso
Em Qui, 2006-02-02 às 18:49 +, Stephen Gran escreveu: > This one time, at band camp, Daniel Ruoso said: > > > So, if I were to write a program, which at startup displays the > > > entiretity of the GNU Manifesto, and wrote a license, which would be > > > GPL with

Re: {SPAM} Re: Anton's amendment

2006-02-02 Thread Daniel Ruoso
plays the > entiretity of the GNU Manifesto, and wrote a license, which would be > GPL with the addition that the startup display may not be modified, > only amended, you would consider this program a DFSG program and it > could go into main? IMHO, it's non-free. It's complet

Re: Anton's amendment

2006-02-02 Thread Daniel Ruoso
Em Qui, 2006-02-02 às 12:44 +0200, Anton Zinoviev escreveu: > On Wed, Feb 01, 2006 at 06:32:50PM -0300, Daniel Ruoso wrote: > > I must remeber that, in this case, you're not letting the user judge if > > something fits or not to his needs. > > This breaks freedom 1[1],

Re: Anton's amendment

2006-02-01 Thread Daniel Ruoso
Em Qua, 2006-02-01 às 23:33 +0200, Anton Zinoviev escreveu: > On Wed, Feb 01, 2006 at 03:28:30PM -0300, Daniel Ruoso wrote: > > This was what I tried to show you, not the opposite. My interpretation > > of DFSG3 is guided by freedom 1, which says "adapt it to your needs"

Re: Anton's amendment

2006-02-01 Thread Daniel Ruoso
you one document[1] that DFSG clearly refers to which contradicts your interpretation. Can you show me something like this that contradicts my argument? daniel [1] http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Anton's amendment

2006-02-01 Thread Daniel Ruoso
27;t see any references that bases this interpretation, except by reading the DFSG without taking into account anything else, like, er..., it's history. daniel [1] I've said this before. DFSG3 clearly refers to Freedom 1 and Freedom 3. So, if you're in doubt, you could use it to unde

Re: Anton's amendment

2006-02-01 Thread Daniel Ruoso
7;s *up to the user* to decide if something fit to his needs or not, and invariant sections *prevents the user* from deciding that. daniel -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Anton's amendment

2006-02-01 Thread Daniel Ruoso
; or with related matters, or of legal, commercial, philosophical, > ethical or political position regarding them". How bad... To me, it's like using one thing as media to unrelated stuff, and as most people would remove the unrelated stuff, they force it to be there anyway. daniel -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Anton's amendment

2006-02-01 Thread Daniel Ruoso
is ambiguity I realy belive that we need to modify DFSG > in some future GR. Sorry, but I don't think that's possible. Your proposal means adding a "except for GFDL invariant sections" in DFSG3. Even if it automatically doesn't change that text, it does change it's use,

Re: {SPAM} Re: The invariant sections are not forbidden by DFSG

2006-01-31 Thread Daniel Ruoso
oving invariant sections. Was this already suggested to FSF? daniel -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

How many GRs?

2006-01-25 Thread Daniel Ruoso
n to split it into two GRs... And I don't think a proposal to include it in main even being considered non-free would get enough seconds... What I would suggest to the project's secretary is to re-start this GR process, as it seems too confusing by now (can it be done?)... daniel -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Amendment: GFDL is compatible with DFSG

2006-01-23 Thread Daniel Ruoso
ight? Is this clause enforcable to your private copies (considering it as a bug)? or just to the copies you distribute... I mean, I know the license says "the copies you make or distribute", but, by definition, wouldn't it apply only to the act of distribution? daniel -- To UNS

Re: Amendment to GR on GFDL, and the changes to the Social Contract

2006-01-20 Thread Daniel Ruoso
orated into free programs." So... If the intention was to refute the interpretation of the GFDL license that thinks the other problems do exist? Shouldn't it be forced to say that the problems doesn't exist? If the amendment recognizes that the other problems exists but still wants to inc

Re: Trying to reach consensus - Yet Another Alternate Proposal to Declassification of debian-private

2005-12-09 Thread Daniel Ruoso
Em Sex, 2005-12-09 às 00:49 +1000, Anthony Towns escreveu: > On Thu, Dec 08, 2005 at 11:24:52AM -0300, Daniel Ruoso wrote: > > There's a lot of personal information inside debian-private, > There is? I got 36 of 494 messages (7%) for the month I did, with an > additional 55 o

Re: {SPAM} Re: Trying to reach consensus - Yet Another Alternate Proposal to Declassification of debian-private

2005-12-08 Thread Daniel Ruoso
Em Qui, 2005-12-08 às 08:07 +0100, Lionel Elie Mamane escreveu: > On Thu, Dec 08, 2005 at 01:39:15AM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > > On Wed, Dec 07, 2005 at 02:47:07PM -0300, Daniel Ruoso wrote: > >> The first type of publication could embrace the entire content of > &

Re: Trying to reach consensus - Yet Another Alternate Proposal to Declassification of debian-private

2005-12-08 Thread Daniel Ruoso
Em Qui, 2005-12-08 às 01:39 +0100, Wouter Verhelst escreveu: > On Wed, Dec 07, 2005 at 02:47:07PM -0300, Daniel Ruoso wrote: > > I hope this is closer to a consensus... > Afraid not. This proposal basically creates a second class of people -- > those who we want to sign NDA'

Re: {SPAM} Re: Trying to reach consensus - Yet Another Alternate Proposal to Declassification of debian-private

2005-12-08 Thread Daniel Ruoso
Em Qui, 2005-12-08 às 00:08 +0100, Gaudenz Steinlin escreveu: > On Wed, Dec 07, 2005 at 02:47:07PM -0300, Daniel Ruoso wrote: > > The first type of publication could embrace the entire content of > > debian-private, but restrictions will be applied for those who want to > >

Trying to reach consensus - Yet Another Alternate Proposal to Declassification of debian-private

2005-12-07 Thread Daniel Ruoso
hope this is closer to a consensus... daniel signature.asc Description: Esta é uma parte de mensagem assinada digitalmente

Re: Proposal for *Real* Declassification of debian-private archives

2005-12-02 Thread Daniel Ruoso
Em Sex, 2005-12-02 às 21:16 +0100, Florian Weimer escreveu: > * Daniel Ruoso: > > In accordance with principles of openness and transparency, Debian > > will seek to declassify and publish posts of historical or ongoing > > significance made to the Debian Private Mailin

Proposal for *Real* Declassification of debian-private archives

2005-12-01 Thread Daniel Ruoso
nouncements or posts that have no content after information is removed (according to the above constraint), will not be published, unless the author requests they be published; --- This way, I think we would have a *real* declassification process. dani

Re: Alternate proposal for Declassification of debian-private archives

2005-12-01 Thread Daniel Ruoso
our internals! if we do, we should really do it, not just publish some selected things, it can't be called declassification if we select which materials are of our interest to be public. daniel P.S.: I know, the current proposal isn't exactly that way (I agreed to make it happen), but th

Re: GR Proposal 3: Declassification of -private - Future content only

2005-11-19 Thread Daniel Ruoso
Em Sáb, 2005-11-19 às 12:29 +1000, Anthony Towns escreveu: > On Fri, Nov 18, 2005 at 11:41:34AM -0300, Daniel Ruoso wrote: > > -- > > Thus, I propose that the Debian project resolve that the process > > defined in GR Proposal 2 will be applied *only* for the future content

GR Proposal 3: Declassification of -private - Future content only

2005-11-18 Thread Daniel Ruoso
oposal 2 is rejected. daniel signature.asc Description: Esta é uma parte de mensagem assinada digitalmente

Re: GR Proposal 2: Declassification of -private

2005-11-18 Thread Daniel Ruoso
27;t get special treatment; they can be vetoed > by the post's author though >- specific details for overriding the team's decisions by the > developers Ok, Following what I've said in the last post, I second this proposal. daniel signature.asc Description: Esta é uma parte de mensagem assinada digitalmente

Re: GR Proposal 2: Declassification of -private

2005-11-18 Thread Daniel Ruoso
w (Manoj's changes, no comment on original) >Daniel Ruoso (original preferred over Manoj's changes) > Five's enough to second a proposal, but only if they all second the same > one :) I change my position as it seems that's needed to take it to the vote. I cons

Re: GR Proposal: Declassification of -private

2005-11-16 Thread Daniel Ruoso
will be deferred; > > - requests by the authors of posts, or others who would be affected > by the publication of the post, will be taken into account by > the declassification team; > > - the list of posts to be declassified will be made available to >

Re: Debian Project Leader Election 2005 Results

2005-04-11 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Monday 11 April 2005 04:41 pm, Daniel Ruoso wrote: > For those who are tired of pressing page up/page down to understand the > listing... a s/Option \d/$candidates[$1]/ge is helpfull... Or you could look at Manoj's cool graph. I think it's linked as the "statis

Re: Debian Project Leader Election 2005 Results

2005-04-11 Thread Daniel Ruoso
. Anthony Towns defeats None of the Above by ( 390 - 101) = 289 votes. Andreas Schuldei defeats Angus Lees by ( 307 - 99) = 208 votes. Angus Lees defeats None of the Above by ( 261 - 184) = 77 votes. Andreas Schuldei defeats None of the Above by ( 346 - 120) = 226 votes. daniel -- To

Re: Final call for votes for the debian project leader election 2005

2005-04-08 Thread Daniel Jacobowitz
received by 23:59:59 UTC on April 10th, 2005. Do you mean, "less than two days before"? -- Daniel Jacobowitz CodeSourcery, LLC -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Call for votes for the Debian Project Leader Election 2005

2005-03-21 Thread Daniel Stone
On Mon, Mar 21, 2005 at 03:53:19PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: > On Mon, Mar 21, 2005 at 11:04:14AM +0100, Igor Genibel wrote: > > On Monday 21 March 2005 10:54, Luk Claes wrote: > > > > Sorry for this mistake :/ > > > > /me bashes himself > > Maybe the ballot should have had a reply-to to the vot

Re: Branden's time commitments

2005-03-21 Thread Daniel Stone
On Mon, Mar 21, 2005 at 10:04:23AM +0100, Frank Küster wrote: > Daniel Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb: > > On Mon, Mar 21, 2005 at 06:33:16PM +1100, Hamish Moffatt wrote: > >> On Mon, Mar 21, 2005 at 05:25:55PM +1100, Daniel Stone wrote: > >> > vendors, et al

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