On Wed, 2007-05-30 at 20:06 +0100, MJ Ray wrote:
> Bart Martens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...]
> > GR's are, in my opinion, meant to handle more general decisions, like
> > describing to what extent the listmasters are authorized to [silently]
> > take actions for keeping good order on the mailin
On Wed, May 30, 2007 at 06:13:40PM -0700, Don Armstrong wrote:
> On Thu, 31 May 2007, Brian May wrote:
> > Is it possible to act as a developer without mailing list access?
>
> Yes, just as it's possible to act as a developer if you've been
> excluded from using [EMAIL PROTECTED]; you just have to
On Wed, May 30, 2007 at 07:26:03PM +0100, MJ Ray wrote:
> Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...]
> > The main point you are missing, that if you remove the suspension, and
> > debian claims something about the fault of the previous events to be
> > shared (which nobody disputes they are), the
On Thu, 31 May 2007, Brian May wrote:
> Is it possible to act as a developer without mailing list access?
Yes, just as it's possible to act as a developer if you've been
excluded from using [EMAIL PROTECTED]; you just have to use an
intermediate who can send on messages on your behalf.
Don Armst
> "MJ" == MJ Ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
MJ> 1. Sven Luther is suspended from all debian lists for a year,
MJ> which should be similar to (b), because the project generally
MJ> liked his two-month self-suspension and wishes not to receive
MJ> his discussion contributions at
Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...]
> The main point you are missing, that if you remove the suspension, and
> debian claims something about the fault of the previous events to be
> shared (which nobody disputes they are), then the list behaviour become
> no more a problem than for other D
Bart Martens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...]
> GR's are, in my opinion, meant to handle more general decisions, like
> describing to what extent the listmasters are authorized to [silently]
> take actions for keeping good order on the mailing lists, for what
> actions the listmasters need the DPL'
On Wed, 2007-05-30 at 11:50 +0100, MJ Ray wrote:
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>
> We resolve that:-
>
> 1. Sven Luther is suspended from all debian lists for a year,
Such things should not be handled by a GR.
GR's are, in my opinion, meant to handle more general decisions, like
describing t
On Wed, May 30, 2007 at 11:50:48AM +0100, MJ Ray wrote:
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> There is a lamentable personal dispute between Sven Luther and some
> other developers. There have been some attempts at reconciliation and
> various offers, but none have succeeded in en
Kalle Kivimaa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> MJ Ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > 2. However, Sven Luther should be allowed onto lists where Q posters
> > request it, where Q is half of the square root of the number of
> > posters last month.
>
> Does this place an undue burden on the listmasters?
MJ Ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 1. Sven Luther is suspended from all debian lists for a year, which
> should be similar to (b), because the project generally liked his
> two-month self-suspension and wishes not to receive his discussion
> contributions at the moment.
[...]
> 3. Sven Luther is
MJ Ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 2. However, Sven Luther should be allowed onto lists where Q posters
> request it, where Q is half of the square root of the number of
> posters last month.
Does this place an undue burden on the listmasters?
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There is a lamentable personal dispute between Sven Luther and some
other developers. There have been some attempts at reconciliation and
various offers, but none have succeeded in ending this dispute.
Two recent significant actions have been:
(a) Su
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