Re: git: how to figure out with a script what the last commit on remote repo is without fetching it

2014-10-08 Thread lee
"Claes Wallin (韋嘉誠)" writes: > On 06/09/14 06:04, lee wrote: >> Hi, >> >> how would I figure out what the last commit to a remote repo was without >> first fetching or pulling the remote repo? > > $ git ls-remote origin > > ... will show you t

Re: Fvwm.... this actually didn't work........

2014-10-08 Thread lee
me? If you want only some to show up, you'll need to maintain your own menu(s). Following your discussion, I've added the Debian autogenerated menu to https://github.com/lee-/fvwm --- you could add your own menu the same way. Plain and simple, I didn't use functions to upd

Re: [exim4] mixed up about terminology

2014-10-08 Thread lee
Jerry Stuckle writes: > On 10/6/2014 7:30 PM, lee wrote: >> Jerry Stuckle writes: >> >>> For instance, MUAs typically connect on port 587 (at least that is the >>> recommendation), while MTAs always use port 25. Additionally, MUAs >>> should always be

Re: [exim4] mixed up about terminology

2014-10-08 Thread lee
Jerry Stuckle writes: > On 10/6/2014 7:10 PM, lee wrote: >> Jerry Stuckle writes: >> >>>>dc_relay_nets >>>> A list of machines for which we serve as smarthost. >>>> >>>> That looks ideal, doesn't it? >>&g

implicit linkage (was: Re: Effectively criticizing decisions you disagree with in Debian)

2014-10-08 Thread lee
Joel Rees writes: >> 2014/09/25 9:15 "lee" : >> >>> Joel Rees writes: >> >> >> Hmm. So linkage is a result of complexity, > > What is complexity? > > Complexity is not a simple topic. :-\ > >> and implicity is a result of &g

Re: Fwd: Re: cron in UTC?

2014-10-08 Thread lee
Tony van der Hoff writes: > GMT/BST; I just want cron to trigger tasks at a fixed time each day, > regardless of localtime. man cron: It is possible to use different time zones for crontables. See crontab(5) for more information. man 5 crontab: The CRON_TZ variable spec

Re: Newbie friendly security and firewall docs (cookbook?)

2014-10-08 Thread lee
Richard Owlett writes: > I'm aware of "Securing Debian Manual". I'm looking for more an > introductory document. I'm not sure what you're looking for. It's a good idea to have at least a good basic understanding about how a firewall works before you set one up. From there, you could look at to

Re: Fwd: Re: cron in UTC?

2014-10-09 Thread lee
Don Armstrong writes: > On Thu, 09 Oct 2014, lee wrote: >> Tony van der Hoff writes: >> >> > GMT/BST; I just want cron to trigger tasks at a fixed time each day, >> > regardless of localtime. >> >> man cron: >> >>It is

Re: lvm: creating a snapshot

2014-10-10 Thread lee
John Holland writes: > You can copy with dd from the snapshot to another block device or a > file. That file can be on the same computer or you can get it to > another computer by using netcat, NFS, rsync etc. Well, yes, if I could make a snapshot in the first place ... -- Hallowed are the De

Re: lvm: creating a snapshot

2014-10-10 Thread lee
Don Armstrong writes: > On Tue, 07 Oct 2014, lee wrote: >> Don Armstrong writes: >> > Doesn't matter. It just has to be a block device that you can add as >> > a physical volume to the volume group. >> >> Isn't a logical volume of a volume group

Re: lvm: creating a snapshot

2014-10-10 Thread lee
John Holland writes: > It's been a while since I dealt with lvm snapshots but they are > available as I guess block devices somehow, you might have to google to > find out how to get the exact path to the snapshot. When I put a snapshot onto a block device, it should be available just like the b

alternative file systems (was: Re: lvm: creating a snapshot)

2014-10-10 Thread lee
John Holland writes: > I'm having very good results using their repo and DKMS system to build > support into kernel modules. It's very easy to set up. I'm using it > with Linux 3.2.0. Does it work with Debians 3.16 kernels? > The license of ZFS makes it impossible to be part of > the kernel per

Re: implicit linkage

2014-10-12 Thread lee
Reco writes: > http://cgit.freedesktop.org/systemd/systemd/tree/src/core/dbus-manager.c?id=3731acf1acfb4a6eb68374a5b137f3b368f63381#n638 Ah, this is a wonderful example :) My assumptions about the code were right. Does all/most of systemd look like that? -- Hallowed are the Debians! -- T

Re: implicit linkage

2014-10-12 Thread lee
Reco writes: > 3) User Alice goes away, but keeps her session in place, locking the > screen. > > 4) User Bob logs in another X session. How does Bob log in while the screen is locked? -- Hallowed are the Debians! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a sub

Re: Moderated posts?

2014-10-12 Thread lee
Steve Litt writes: > A) Tell everyone it's a moderated list > B) Send the poster a short reason why his post has been moderated. It would be against RFC-821 to silently drop messages. -- Hallowed are the Debians! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subj

Re: [exim4] Testing and making sense of smtp output

2014-10-12 Thread lee
Harry Putnam writes: > Can any of you experienced exim4 hands interpret this output? Reading RFC-821 would tell you more. > Did the Authentication work or fail? > > [NOTE: Just for the information, my lan is a fake one 2xd.{local.lan} was > just invented right > out of thin air some yrs ago] >

Re: [exim4] mixed up about terminology

2014-10-12 Thread lee
Jerry Stuckle writes: > On 10/8/2014 8:17 PM, lee wrote: >> Jerry Stuckle writes: >> >>> On 10/6/2014 7:10 PM, lee wrote: >>>> Jerry Stuckle writes: >>>> >>>>>>dc_relay_nets >>>>>> A list of

Re: alternative file systems

2014-10-12 Thread lee
Eduardo M KALINOWSKI writes: > On 10/10/2014 10:20 PM, lee wrote: >>> The license of ZFS makes it impossible to be part of >>> the kernel per se. The DKMS system is well known for supporting kernel >>> modules for video and wireless hardware among others. >> S

Re: [exim4] mixed up about terminology

2014-10-12 Thread lee
Jerry Stuckle writes: > On 10/8/2014 8:42 PM, lee wrote: >> Jerry Stuckle writes: >> >>> On 10/6/2014 7:30 PM, lee wrote: >>>> Jerry Stuckle writes: >>>> >>>>> For instance, MUAs typically connect on port 587 (at least t

Re: Moderated posts?

2014-10-12 Thread lee
Don Armstrong writes: > On Mon, 06 Oct 2014, Steve Litt wrote: >> Several of my posts to lists.debian.org have not made it to the list, >> as defined by both my inbox and the list archive. > > Threads which are off topic for debian-user may be filtered out by > listmas...@lists.debian.org, regard

Re: alternative file systems

2014-10-12 Thread lee
Reco writes: > Hi. > > On Sat, 11 Oct 2014 03:20:50 +0200 > lee wrote: > >> > The license of ZFS makes it impossible to be part of >> > the kernel per se. The DKMS system is well known for supporting kernel >> > modules for video and wireless hardware

Re: lvm: creating a snapshot

2014-10-12 Thread lee
Don Armstrong writes: > On Sat, 11 Oct 2014, lee wrote: >> Well, who can afford that? Someone who can doesn't need to swap >> drives. > > I've upgraded the drive capacity in machines on multiple occasions > because drives have gotten cheaper... but we don

Re: implicit linkage

2014-10-12 Thread lee
Steve Litt writes: > pingaddr=8.8.8.8 > pingaddr=192.168.100.96 Why is this is defined multiple times? -- Hallowed are the Debians! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https

piece of mind (Re: Moderated posts?)

2014-10-12 Thread lee
Jonathan Dowland writes: > The tech-ctte exploration was extremely thorough, entirely transparent and I > cannot think of any example of a more transparent decision making process in > any other Linux community. Not only that, but the entire decision could be > overridden by a GR, which *any* de

Re: Moderated posts?

2014-10-12 Thread lee
When something is antiquated or junk, becomes a troubleshooting problem or leaves room for mockery, or sucks, then there is no reason not to say it. Straining to bend everything into a stream of euphemisms is counterproductive, and nobody can know what is being talked about because it's buried un

Re: Moderated posts?

2014-10-12 Thread lee
david...@ling.ohio-state.edu writes: > Or, in other words, threads deemed off-topic by listmaster@l.d.o may > be frozen, or locked. It's just another very short-sighted thing because depending on the viewpoint expressed, the post may be off-topic or not. -- Again we must be afraid of speaking

Re: Moderated posts?

2014-10-12 Thread lee
Martin Read writes: > On 12/10/14 15:53, lee wrote: >> And when they are filtered, does the sender get a message telling him >> that their message hasn't been delivered? > > The requirement in RFC 2821 (the successor to RFC 821 which you've > recently been

Re: Moderated posts?

2014-10-12 Thread lee
Andrei POPESCU writes: > On Mi, 08 oct 14, 16:01:37, Jonathan Dowland wrote: >> >> The tech-ctte exploration was extremely thorough, entirely transparent and I > > In addition, the tech-ctte took special precautions to make sure their > decision is over-ridable by simple majority (50% + 1), des

Re: piece of mind (Re: Moderated posts?)

2014-10-12 Thread lee
Bas Wijnen writes: > [Moving this to -project, where it belongs; please follow up only > there, not on -user or -devel.] > > On Sun, Oct 12, 2014 at 06:18:01PM +0200, lee wrote: >> Why doesn't Debian just do a GR on this issue? > > Because for a GR, a member of De

MTAs denying messages (was: Re: Moderated posts?)

2014-10-12 Thread lee
Joel Rees writes: > (But in this case, absolutely requiring a response would be building a > DOS and potential privacy vulnerability into the message > infrastructure. The RFCs really should be stored with a summary of > relevant comments.) Could you explain how an MTA would create a privacy vul

Re: [exim4] Testing and making sense of smtp output

2014-10-12 Thread lee
Jonathan Dowland writes: > On Sun, Oct 12, 2014 at 02:45:44PM -0400, Harry Putnam wrote: >> > And if so, is that not acquired from /etc/hosts? > snip >> Egad ... I just noticed that was from a different machine... but the >> format is the same on all of mine. So still should stand as something

Re: [exim4] mixed up about terminology

2014-10-12 Thread lee
Jerry Stuckle writes: >> On 10/12/2014 9:56 AM, lee wrote: >>> Jerry Stuckle writes: >> >>> If you don't know the difference between an MTA and an MUA, there is no >>> way I can help you. >> >> I'm not asking what the difference is

Re: [exim4] mixed up about terminology

2014-10-12 Thread lee
Jerry Stuckle writes: > Among other things, legitimate MTAs have MX records. Anti-spam routines Who prevents a MUA from having an MX record and sending a HELO that matches the RDNS entry? And what are these "other things" you're referring to? -- Again we must be afraid of speaking of daemon

Re: [exim4] Testing and making sense of smtp output

2014-10-12 Thread lee
Harry Putnam writes: > Martin Read writes: > >> On 12/10/14 14:52, lee wrote: >>> Harry Putnam writes: >>> >>>> Can any of you experienced exim4 hands interpret this output? >>> >>> Reading RFC-821 would tell you more. >> >&

Re: [exim4] Testing and making sense of smtp output

2014-10-12 Thread lee
Harry Putnam writes: > lee writes: > > [...] > > Thanks for the tips. > >>> SMTP>> EHLO 2xd > >> That's an invalid helo string. > > Is a valid one made up of just the full fqdn? See https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2821#section-4.1.1.1 I

Re: Moderated posts?

2014-10-13 Thread lee
Brian writes: > The mail is accepted. What the recipient does with the mail after that > is outside the scope of an RFC. There is no obligation on the recipient > to inform the sender that he has ripped up the mail and junked it. When the MTA delivers the mail it accepted correctly, then there i

Re: Moderated posts?

2014-10-13 Thread lee
Jerry Stuckle writes: > And, in fact, more and more ISPs are just accepting and discarding > emails to non-existent users because rejecting such email helps spammers > (any non-rejected email must be a valid user). That's totally retarded. When I don't get an error message in return, the messag

Re: piece of mind (Re: Moderated posts?)

2014-10-13 Thread lee
Matthias Urlichs writes: > Hi, > > lee: >> I'm sure we could find quite a few supporters for having a GR amongst >> the users (here). > > We don't do a GR among our users. We do that among Debian > members/maintainers/developers/take-your-pick. I didn&#x

Re: piece of mind (Re: Moderated posts?)

2014-10-13 Thread lee
Joel Rees writes: > Presto: All dissent is fud. Perfectly said, thank you! That the issue isn't entirely clear lies in the nature of the issue. If you are a good admin, you know how to deal with such issues. -- Again we must be afraid of speaking of daemons for fear that daemons might swal

Re: piece of mind (Re: Moderated posts?)

2014-10-13 Thread lee
Martin Read writes: > On 12/10/14 23:04, lee wrote: >> Bas Wijnen writes: >>> Because for a GR, a member of Debian has to request it and it needs to >>> be seconded by at least 5 other members (constitution 4.2.1, 4.2.7). >>> This has not happened. >>

Re: piece of mind (Re: Moderated posts?)

2014-10-13 Thread lee
Matthias Urlichs writes: > But please don't just do this in the context of yet another attempt to > express dissatisfaction with the fact that our TC chose systemd: > if you do, I do not think you'll achieve anything except more annoyance > about the fact that we're discussing this *again*, and f

Re: piece of mind (Re: Moderated posts?)

2014-10-13 Thread lee
Joey Hess writes: > So at this point, most of us are pretty tired of the subject. And just ignore it and the consequences because you're tired of thinking about it? > Secondly, Russ Allbrey did an amazing job during the -ctte decision of > weighing systemd vs the alternatives. Has any of this

Re: piece of mind (Re: Moderated posts?)

2014-10-14 Thread lee
Steve Litt writes: > On Tue, 14 Oct 2014 02:50:32 +0200 > lee wrote: > >> Joey Hess writes: >> >> > So at this point, most of us are pretty tired of the subject. >> >> And just ignore it and the consequences because you're tired of >>

Re: piece of mind (Re: Moderated posts?)

2014-10-14 Thread lee
Jonathan Dowland writes: > ask questions anyway. But I, and I imagine many of my DD colleagues, are > particularly interested in ensuring -user is a useful resource for our users, > and by filtering out people, we don't get a clear picture of just how broken > the list is. There is a lot of tole

Re: piece of mind (Re: Moderated posts?)

2014-10-14 Thread lee
Jerry Stuckle writes: > On 10/13/2014 7:57 PM, lee wrote: >> Martin Read writes: >> >>> On 12/10/14 23:04, lee wrote: >>>> Bas Wijnen writes: >>>>> Because for a GR, a member of Debian has to request it and it needs to >>>>>

Re: piece of mind (Re: Moderated posts?)

2014-10-14 Thread lee
The Wanderer writes: > In my case, I don't install popcon because it pollutes the > tab-completion namespace for 'popd' in a root shell. That interferes > with my workflow Are you actually using this completion stuff? It always gets into my way and I keep it disabled or removed. -- Again we

Re: piece of mind (Re: Moderated posts?)

2014-10-14 Thread lee
Olav Vitters writes: > On Sun, Oct 12, 2014 at 06:18:01PM +0200, lee wrote: >> Considering that the users are Debians' priority, couldn't this issue be >> a case in which significant concerns from/of the users about an issue >> might initiate a GR? Wouldn'

Re: Moderated posts?

2014-10-15 Thread lee
Andrei POPESCU writes: > On Du, 12 oct 14, 18:47:09, lee wrote: >> Andrei POPESCU writes: >> >> > On Mi, 08 oct 14, 16:01:37, Jonathan Dowland wrote: >> >> >> >> The tech-ctte exploration was extremely thorough, entirely transparent >&

Re: MTAs denying messages

2014-10-16 Thread lee
Joel Rees writes: > If the isp responds with a code that says my user-id is valid, the > junk mailer knows he has a live address. They have no way of knowing whether the address is still in use or not. > If the isp responds to the bad ones with an invalid user-id code, any > user-id that doesn'

Re: [exim4] Testing and making sense of smtp output

2014-10-17 Thread lee
Brian writes: > Not that I'm suggesting setting up exim to offer an invalid HELO; it > will lead to trouble sooner or later. However, as a reason for mail > being rejected or not arriving it doesn't come top of the list. Not accepting invalid HELOs is pretty high on the list because it's a very

Re: alternative file systems

2014-10-17 Thread lee
John Holland writes: > http://zfsonlinux.org/faq.html#WhatKernelVersionsAreSupported "Debian 7.0 (Wheezy) - x86_64" Unfortunately, that isn't sufficiently recent. -- Again we must be afraid of speaking of daemons for fear that daemons might swallow us. Finally, this fear has become reasonab

Re: alternative file systems

2014-10-17 Thread lee
Reco writes: > On Sun, Oct 12, 2014 at 03:33:15AM +0200, lee wrote: >> > A correct guess. A recommended minimum is kernel 3.14 - [2]. >> >> So this is a rather new feature. How reliable and how well does it >> work? > > I wouldn't trust my data to

Re: [exim4] mixed up about terminology

2014-10-17 Thread lee
Jerry Stuckle writes: > On 10/12/2014 10:24 PM, lee wrote: >> Jerry Stuckle writes: >> >>> Among other things, legitimate MTAs have MX records. Anti-spam routines >> >> Who prevents a MUA from having an MX record and sending a HELO that >> matches

Re: alternative file systems

2014-10-17 Thread lee
John Holland writes: > I don't see zfs as super fast, lvm based raid would be faster. But > the snapshots and other features are awesome. I love cloning a vm > instantly. And not to forget the checksumming :) The checksumming is the nicer the more data you store. But seriously store large amo

Re: [exim4] Testing and making sense of smtp output

2014-10-17 Thread lee
Brian writes: > On Mon 13 Oct 2014 at 04:12:04 +0200, lee wrote: > >> Jonathan Dowland writes: >> >> > On Sun, Oct 12, 2014 at 02:45:44PM -0400, Harry Putnam wrote: >> >> > And if so, is that not acquired from /etc/hosts? >> > snip >&

Re: [exim4] Testing and making sense of smtp output

2014-10-17 Thread lee
Brian writes: > On Mon 13 Oct 2014 at 04:06:27 +0200, lee wrote: > >> Harry Putnam writes: >> >> > lee writes: >> > >> > [...] >> > >> > Thanks for the tips. >> > >> >>> SMTP>> EHLO 2xd >

Re: OT_Enlightenment Terminology-0.7 released

2014-10-17 Thread lee
maderios writes: > Hi > Excellent terminal (oddly not available in Debian) named Terminology > 0.7 just released Kinda cool, though rather slow compared to xterm. Can it substitute tmux? Do you know how to change the foreground colour through the settings? -- Again we must be afraid of spe

Re: alternative file systems

2014-10-17 Thread lee
Steve Litt writes: > On Fri, 17 Oct 2014 03:00:26 +0200 > lee wrote: > > >> But when it eats files and is 10 years behind, why are people buying >> it? >> >> So how can we safely store large amounts of data? > > I thought Postgres was supposed to be p

Re: Moderated posts?

2014-10-17 Thread lee
Joel Rees writes: > On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 8:18 AM, lee wrote: >> Jerry Stuckle writes: >> >>> And, in fact, more and more ISPs are just accepting and discarding >>> emails to non-existent users because rejecting such email helps spammers >>> (a

Re: Moderated posts?

2014-10-17 Thread lee
Joe writes: > Yes, although there should still be an audit trail. As I said to Harry > the other day, if you have a message ID from the receiving server you > (probably) can chase it up, and no reputable anti-spam software will > drop a message without keeping a log stating that it has done so. I

Re: [exim4] Testing and making sense of smtp output

2014-10-19 Thread lee
Brian writes: > On Fri 17 Oct 2014 at 03:15:49 +0200, lee wrote: > >> Brian writes: >> >> > On Mon 13 Oct 2014 at 04:12:04 +0200, lee wrote: >> > >> >> Jonathan Dowland writes: >> >> >> >> > On Sun, Oct 12, 2014

Re: Good news on claws-mail

2014-10-19 Thread lee
Mark Carroll writes: > Peter Nieman writes: > >> As mentioned already in another posting, I think the best, if not the >> only solution for Debian would be to split the whole thing in two, one >> for desktop environment users and one for users who do not want a >> desktop environment. Package

Re: Problem with quotatool

2014-10-19 Thread lee
Peter Buzanits writes: > Hello, > > I have a problem on 2 Wheezy installations in Vmware, if I want to set > quota for a user: > > bastelecke:~# quotatool -u tutor -bq 2000M -l 2500M / > quotatool: Error while detecting kernel quota version: No such file or > directory Which version of VMWare an

Re: [exim4] Testing and making sense of smtp output

2014-10-19 Thread lee
Joe writes: > On Sat, 18 Oct 2014 00:13:54 +0100 > Brian wrote: > >> On Fri 17 Oct 2014 at 03:20:44 +0200, lee wrote: >> >> > Brian writes: >> > >> > > Not that I'm suggesting setting up exim to offer an invalid HELO; >> > &g

Re: Moderated posts?

2014-10-19 Thread lee
Chris Bannister writes: > On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 03:24:32AM +0200, lee wrote: >> >> Klensin Standards Track[Page 71] >> >> >> RFC 5321 SMTP October 2008 >> >&g

terminology: how do you change the foreground colour?

2014-10-19 Thread lee
Hi, the subject already says it: How do you change the foreground colour in terminology? I can only set the background. -- Again we must be afraid of speaking of daemons for fear that daemons might swallow us. Finally, this fear has become reasonable. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-us

Re: Good news on claws-mail

2014-10-19 Thread lee
Steve Litt writes: > Those visual and audio hints are one of the few things that most > programs might need to write to. They need a predefined standard to > write to, and I guess dbus is the standard being used. If I were in > charge of standards, I might have used something simpler (like a fifo

Re: [exim4] Testing and making sense of smtp output

2014-10-19 Thread lee
Brian writes: >> > An address literal is not the same as an IP address. An MTA should not >> > be rejecting mail on the basis that the HELO is an address literal. >> >> Oh, then what is it? > > Using an example from RFC5321, an address literal is [123.255.37.2]. An > IP address would presumably

Re: Moderated posts?

2014-10-20 Thread lee
Tanstaafl writes: > On 10/17/2014 9:24 PM, lee wrote: >> You do not accept messages you can not deliver unless you are relaying >> them. > > Absolutely wrong, this rule fully applies to relays just as it does > final destination servers. I'm not sure what you mea

Re: [exim4] Testing and making sense of smtp output

2014-10-21 Thread lee
Brian writes: > [I may be misunderstanding how your mail system works but your Date: > header doesn't look right] > > > On Sun 19 Oct 2014 at 00:53:44 +0200, lee wrote: > >> Brian writes: >> >> > On Fri 17 Oct 2014 at 03:15:49 +0200, lee wrot

Re: Good news on claws-mail

2014-10-21 Thread lee
berenger.mo...@neutralite.org writes: > But my opinion is that, it's the accumulation of tools using different > slow languages, which will kill the computer's resources (shell, > python2, python3, php, perl, basic, whatever). Perl isn't exactly slow, considering what it does. In any case, pick

Re: Problem with quotatool

2014-10-21 Thread lee
Peter Buzanits writes: > Am 2014-10-19 um 13:47 schrieb lee: > >>> I have a problem on 2 Wheezy installations in Vmware, if I want to set >>> quota for a user: >>> >>> bastelecke:~# quotatool -u tutor -bq 2000M -l 2500M / >>> quotatool: Error wh

Re: Good news on claws-mail

2014-10-21 Thread lee
Steve Litt writes: > On Sun, 19 Oct 2014 14:20:25 +0200 > lee wrote: > > >> Since you're re-inventing the wheel: >> >> // sxnotify.c > [...] >> >> # aptitude install libsx-dev > > Very, very nice! I'm glad you like it :) Ther

Re: [exim4] Testing and making sense of smtp output

2014-10-21 Thread lee
Brian writes: >> On Sun 19 Oct 2014 at 01:19:51 +0200, lee wrote: >> >> At least they are supporting others in breaking RFCs, and I wonder how >> that could not be against their own interests. In any case, it >> classifies them as (at least potentially very) unre

Re: Good news on claws-mail

2014-10-23 Thread lee
berenger.mo...@neutralite.org writes: > The only problem is bash, here: it is unable to handle > multi-instances, so the histories are lost more or less randomly when > I close/spawn terminals and sessions. # append history rather than overwriting it shopt -s histappend Do you use tmux? --

Re: terminology: how do you change the foreground colour?

2014-10-23 Thread lee
Darac Marjal writes: > On Sun, Oct 19, 2014 at 01:49:17PM +0200, lee wrote: >> Hi, >> >> the subject already says it: How do you change the foreground colour in >> terminology? I can only set the background. > > $ tput setaf 2 && echo This text is gre

Re: [exim4] Testing and making sense of smtp output

2014-10-23 Thread lee
Brian writes: > On Tue 21 Oct 2014 at 22:54:19 +0200, lee wrote: > >> Brian writes: >> >> >> On Sun 19 Oct 2014 at 01:19:51 +0200, lee wrote: >> >> >> >> At least they are supporting others in breaking RFCs, and I wonder how >> >&g

Re: Censorship confirmed

2014-10-25 Thread lee
goli...@riseup.net writes: > On Mon, 10/20/14, Don Armstrong wrote: > > Subject: Re: Remember when men were men and wrote their own init > scripts? =) > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Cc: listmas...@lists.debian.org > Date: Monday, October 20, 2014, 1:59 PM > > Further responses to this t

Re: alternative file systems

2014-10-25 Thread lee
Reco writes: >> One of the disadvantages with mdadm is that it can severely impact >> performance. > > Agreed. Still, I view RAID as a disaster prevention tool first, and any > performance increases come only second if they do at all. Yes --- disk failures are so frequent that there's no way to

Re: Perfect Jessie is something like this...

2014-10-26 Thread lee
Christian Seiler writes: > But it also includes the utility 'logger'. In recent util-linux > versions, 'logger' has gained a --journald flag that allows one to log > to systemd's journal from the command line. This is the reason for the > dependency on libsystemd0, so that 'logger' may write to t

Re: Debian and upstream choices

2014-10-26 Thread lee
Martin Steigerwald writes: > Maybe I failed at avoiding personal attacks, but I still think I didn´t. On > any account, my attempt to bring this upstream did not produce the outcome I > wanted to produce, so I stopped it. Well, remember what I told you? -- Again we must be afraid of speakin

Re: Good news on claws-mail

2014-10-27 Thread lee
berenger.mo...@neutralite.org writes: >> Do you use tmux? > > No, I do not really see the interest of using it, I must admit it. One advantage is that you can detach from the session and even log out and come back later, and it also survives the X server going down. -- Again we must be afraid

Re: Debian and upstream choices

2014-10-27 Thread lee
Martin Steigerwald writes: > Please do not Cc me personally. > > Hello Lee, > > Am Montag, 27. Oktober 2014, 00:05:03 schrieb lee: >> Martin Steigerwald writes: >> > Maybe I failed at avoiding personal attacks, but I still think I didn´t. >> > On >

Re: Perfect Jessie is something like this...

2014-10-29 Thread lee
Don Armstrong writes: > On Sun, 26 Oct 2014, lee wrote: >> That's an abuse of dependencies, and I consider it a bug. The package >> management needs to take care of this itself. >> >> That shouldn't need to be installed when systemd isn't used. >>

Re: Perfect Jessie is something like this...

2014-10-29 Thread lee
Christian Seiler writes: > Am 26.10.2014 23:38, schrieb lee: >>> libsystemd0 is just 140 KiB and contains utility functions that might be >>> useful for programs interfacing with systemd. It is absolutely harmless >>> on systems with another init system, it wi

Re: Perfect Jessie is something like this...

2014-10-31 Thread lee
Don Armstrong writes: > On Tue, 28 Oct 2014, lee wrote: >> As to package management: When you don't have a software installed, >> other software you have installed shouldn't depend on the software you >> don't have installed when the installed software does

Re: Need help setting up printing in Jessie

2014-10-31 Thread lee
Paul E Condon writes: > information? What happens is basically nothing. I select the B+W > print buffer from the file menu in the Emacs23-lucid window, and... > nothing comes out of my printer, and nothing is added to the jobs > list in CUPS. You might need to set a default printer, or use somet

Re: Preventing the computer from shutting down.

2014-10-31 Thread lee
Mario Castelán Castro writes: > Hello. > > I can set up a script for backup with cron or anacron, but how can I > prevent the computer from shutting down while the backup is being > performed so as to not to leave it incomplete?. I'd try to fix the bug that makes it shut down. Do you have broke

Re: Understanding DNS, Create an "Failover"

2014-10-31 Thread lee
basti writes: > Hello, > last weekend my primary DNS-Server goes down, and some of my server > can't find each other. > > [...] > > How can I fix this? Set up a second name server which operates as slave of your primary one and use the slave as fallback? -- Again we must be afraid of speaking

Re: Perfect Jessie is something like this...

2014-10-31 Thread lee
Don Armstrong writes: > On Fri, 31 Oct 2014, lee wrote: >> Don Armstrong writes: >> > Except that it the software does depend on the shared library being >> > installed. Binaries which link against

/bin/perl vs. /usr/bin/perl

2014-11-01 Thread lee
Hi, what's the proposed Debian way to deal with a different location of the 'perl' executable? Fedora has /bin/perl, Debian has /usr/bin/perl. Since I still have Fedora on the desktop and Debian on the VMs, I need compatibility. -- Again we must be afraid of speaking of daemons for fear that

Re: Perfect Jessie is something like this...

2014-11-01 Thread lee
Steve McIntyre writes: > Miles Fidelman wrote: >>Martin Read wrote: >> >>Right. This sounds more and more like "we're going to rewrite the >>rules, and if you don't like it, we're taking our ball and going home." > > Various people have tried to explain how a binary distribution like > Debian w

Re: What to do with dead raid 1 partitions under mdadm

2014-11-02 Thread lee
mett writes: > Hi, > > I'm running Squeeze under raid 1 with mdadm. > One of the raid failed and I replace it with space I had available on > that same disk. > > Today, when rebooting I got an error cause the boot flag was still on > both partitions(sdb1 and sdb3 below). I used the rescue part o

Re: Perfect Jessie is something like this...

2014-11-02 Thread lee
The Wanderer writes: > On 11/01/2014 at 10:20 PM, lee wrote: > >> Steve McIntyre writes: >> >>> Miles Fidelman wrote: > >>>> Right. This sounds more and more like "we're going to rewrite >>>> the rules, and if you don't

Re: Debian and upstream choices

2014-11-04 Thread lee
> better here." >> > >> > There's not much debian-user can do about facilitating change whether >> > upstream is receptive or not. >> >> I dunno. That sounds a little cynical to me. > > Come on Lee, unless you are going to write patches

Re: /bin/perl vs. /usr/bin/perl

2014-11-04 Thread lee
Martin Read writes: > On 01/11/14 14:52, lee wrote: >> what's the proposed Debian way to deal with a different location of the >> 'perl' executable? > > #! /usr/bin/env perl > >> Fedora has /bin/perl, Debian has /usr/bin/perl. Since I still have >

Re: Perfect Jessie is something like this...

2014-11-04 Thread lee
John Hasler writes: > do so and quit whining about how the DDs choose to expend their own time > and resources. They *are* interested in what users want and need. Where does this interest show? -- Again we must be afraid of speaking of daemons for fear that daemons might swallow us. Finally

moving LVM logical volumes to new disks

2014-11-12 Thread lee
Hi, what's the best way to move existing logical volumes or a whole volume group to new disks? The target disks cannot be installed at the same time as the source disks. I will have to make some sort of copy over the network to another machine, remove the old disks, install the new disks and put

Re: moving LVM logical volumes to new disks

2014-11-13 Thread lee
"Karl E. Jorgensen" writes: > Hi > > On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 10:09:43PM +0100, lee wrote: >> Hi, >> >> what's the best way to move existing logical volumes or a whole volume >> group to new disks? >> >> The target disks cannot be ins

Re: moving LVM logical volumes to new disks

2014-11-13 Thread lee
Igor Cicimov writes: > On 13/11/2014 8:27 AM, "lee" wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> what's the best way to move existing logical volumes or a whole volume >> group to new disks? >> >> The target disks cannot be installed at the same time as

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