/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.15-1/drivers/video/nvidia/Makefile
and a huge file tree under /usr/src/modules/nvidia-kernel
Can I just delete all this /usr/src stuff?
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> > /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.12-1/drivers/video/nvidia/Makefile
> > /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.15-1-amd64-generic/include/config/fb/nvidia
> > /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.15-1-amd64-generic/include/config/fb/nvidia/i2c.h
> > /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.15-1-amd
src/linux-headers-2.6.15-1/drivers/video/nvidia/Makefile
>
> and a huge file tree under /usr/src/modules/nvidia-kernel
>
> Can I just delete all this /usr/src stuff?
Well, I did, and the system still boots. Now, when it tries to start X
it complains that there isn't any
tarting with a new or emptied build directory every time they
have a new version of nvidia-kernel-source (and meybe also when
compiling for a new kernel)
(2) cleaning out /usr/src if that's where they're building it. And
they'll need instructions how to clean it, since the majority of
On Tue, Jun 20, 2006 at 09:38:05PM -0600, Nate Duehr wrote:
>
> Some requirements that might push someone back toward removable media
> instead of disk are:
DVD's are more likely to survive EMP. Relevant if your data have to
survive a nuclear war if you do.
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information, and the sum of both removals is, I am told, something the
human ear *can* hear.
So don't do that. Don't convert mp3 to ogg.
But acquiring new music in ogg format is fine, as long as it hasn't been
converted fr
e. unfortunately my google
> skills are not sufficient to get any info out of a search string with
> `-' in it...
>
I get processes like this, too. Two of them, every time.
Runnuing etch.
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>
>
> sid/2.6.16-k7 up to date within a day or so.
>
> A
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Here's the complete output from lilo -t -v
LILO version 22.6.1 (test mode), Copyright (C) 1992-1998 Werner Almesberger
Development beyond version 21 Copyright (C) 1999-2004 John Coffman
Released 17-Nov-2004, and compiled at
pure vanilla
> version. Eventually I found successful manual edits to make the Wacom
> tablet work.
Could you post the *.conf that finaly got the Wacom to work? I have a
friend with one and it stopped working properly with etch.
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> On Sun, Jun 25, 2006 at 08:01:21PM +0700, Surachai Locharoen wrote:
> > I just want to know 'LANG=C' what does it mean? Normally, I see LANG is
> > set to laguage which exist in the real world such as en, th, fr.
>
> The LANG variable
sking for,
and I don't seem to be able to get to the proposed list of packages to
be installed/upgraded/removed/broken without accepting its suggestions.
Otherwise I might be able to resolve some of it myself.
Maybe what I'm asking for isn't possible, but I find its suggestions
just muddy the water and make it hard to investigate.
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based (presumably) on some build-in implicit rule.
How can I get rid of all these implicit rules, so I only get the ones I speify
explicitly?
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with perl) and only after that
was I to do an dost-upgrade.
I also remember that it took more than two gigabytes of temporary disk
space so that it could download all the packages before upgradeing any.
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Except for a few font problems, the xorg upgrade (from 6.9 to 7) seemed
to work. During the upgrade, there were a few package problems, easily
resolved using aptitude's suggestions. First it wanted to install an
xfree86 package to fix things, but the second alternative was xfs, which
I chose.
ake multiple copies on
different brands of DVD/CD blanks.
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is a problem, but I don't
need all of my machines to be up 24/7. 23.95/7 is quote enough. In any
case, I can put the cage in a lesser-used machine on my LAN and use NFS.
Except my NFS is still choking on files > 4G.
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> On Sun, Jul 02, 2006 at 12:19:28 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Except for a few font problems, the xorg upgrade (from 6.9 to 7) seemed
> > to work. During the upgrade, there were a few package problems, easily
> > resolved us
On Sun, Jul 02, 2006 at 07:40:18PM -0700, Derek wrote:
> >
> >i guess i was always under the impression that security updates were
> >always for "stable" (sarge) ... sorry.
It used to be that way. It changed recently.
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So, some measure of parallel operation to maintain stability.
For normal use, I recommend
for stability, specify the release as "sarge" (right now, anyway)
For gradual continual change, specify "testing"
For helping debug the latest Debian stuff, specify "sid
k? After the crash (i.e., now), lsmod tells me that
agpgart *is* loaded.
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Sorry to be dense, but what's a Breezy Badger?
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might have made a difference... Now that I've got it up for a few
minutes, I'll try install the 2.6.15 kernel, just in case that helps.
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> After upgrading my etch to xorg7.0 and making everything up-to-da
AGP slot is missing. Now how *do* I "make sure
> the agpgart kernel module is loaded before the radeon kernel module."?
> And why isn't it already happening? Or is the problem somewhere else?
> Where should I look? After the crash (i.e., now), lsmod tells me that
&
>
> > > Very good. I imagine X *might* have trouble reaching the video card
> > > if the driver for the AGP slot is missing. Now how *do* I "make sure
> > > the agpgart kernel module is loaded before the radeon kernel module."?
> > > And why isn
loaded before the radeon kernel module.
> > > (**) RADEON(0): RADEONDRICloseScreen
> > >
> > > Very good. I imagine X *might* have trouble reaching the video card
> > > if the driver for the AGP slot is missing. Now how *do* I "make sure
> > > t
be doing backups.
>
> so IOW, don't do that? ;)
NONONO. IOW, make a backup.
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ne partition, and then you install
a 32-but Debian in another, and it sets up grub, will the
32-bit installation recognise the already present 64-bit installation,
and will the presumably 32-bit grup properly boot it?
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understand why IMAP
> > needs to be in there. I'd like to use Evolution as a local GUI and mutt
> > remotely, on the same maildir. I shouldn't really need to have
> > something else between the MUA and maildir.
> >
> Hi Owen,
> if you used ssfs to mount a remote dir
modules do I have to install/configure/modprobe or
whatever to get the 32-bit system to recognise this stuff.
I don't remember any such problems when I installed the 64-bit system.
But that was months ago and my memory may be shaky.
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partition OK. (i've got an AMD64) But I'd like to use lilo to set
up a boot floppy -- just in case.
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Maybe if I do that it will figure out what has to be installed for it?
I'm interested in getting the thing going, but I'm also interested in
why it didn't work out of the box, so to speak.
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> >wrong? /boot is on a reiserfs. Could that be the problem instead?
>
> There's no problem to use reiserfs on /boot
Good.
>
> >
> >grub boots OK. The 32-bit grup even boots the 64-bit alternate boot
> >partition O
?
I seem to remember that just this point was sicussed on debian-user in
the past month or two -- something oabout specifying the volume label
or other kind of unique colume ID in the udev rules.
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the RAID to be recognised, you
likely need lvm-common, lvm2 and lvm10. (Don't know for sure; I didn't
try uninstalling them to see it fail after I got it all working)
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for customization is wrong?
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onnect to my provider with "pon dsl-provider", with ifconfig I can
> see that my ppp0 has a dynamic IP address. With plog I also see that
> I have been assigned two DNS servers. However, I can't ping any
> domains or surf in the internet.
Can you ping the DNS servers by ex
there's no longer any point in trying to use RPM. I have a
> directory full of the original source tarballs just to keep track
> of what's installed and where it went during 'make install'.
Backports work within the package manager.
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issue.
Multiprotocol between open protocols shouldn't be that hard.
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o be closed-source?
Maybe it's just traditional on Windows. Maybe somebody decided
that children don't know what to do with source code. Maybe someone
wants to keep the source code to himself so that he can make umpteen
free games to attach to childrens' magazines and charge
n memory wasn't anything like
the RAM we all know nowadays. Main memory was a magnetic drum. Each
instruction got to specify *when* in terms of drum rotation it was to be
executed, and *when* the next instruction was to be fetched. Timing was
everything.
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> hendrik writes:
> > Before that, an IBM 1620...
>
> Someone else who started out on a 1620. I never got to do anything with it
> but submit FORTRAN decks, though.
It was actually a Bendix G15d I started on --
rtition? (/dev/hdb1 instead of /dev/hda1)
>
> There are two versions of Grub NextBoot on KDE-Look.org. Check them
> out. States that it requires kdesu it's not available; sudo works fine.
How does it do it? Rewriting the boot sector?
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n out of disk space halfway through the
upgrade.
Also: when the time comes to do the upgrade, read the upgrade
instructions before you start. Although in theory a dist-upgrade
should do the trick, a specific upgrade may require special actions.
For example, the upgrade from woody to sarge requir
e that
happening, though -- I'd presume tiger is started late in the boot
process, or is it just confused?
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es. I am especially grateful for the advice from
> "hendrik" to "keep a copy of the currently-operational system"
What I said (or should have said) was "keep an *operational* copy of the
currently-operational system". I actually used extra partitions to
store the
ernels should be different
packages (just as the kernels are different packages) , so you can
install multiple udev's when you have installed multiple kernels.
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a few weeks later.
Before etch becomes stable, all this kind of glitch should have been
ironed out.
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On Fri, Aug 04, 2006 at 02:38:33PM +0200, Helge Stenstr?m (KI/EAB) wrote:
> I can't ping either. I have Debian Sid, and made a system upgrade in late
> July. Is the cause the same?
>
> pinging other machines on the same subnet works.
>
> The route command takes very long time (40 seconds), but g
poor net access.
However, the online repositories may not give you the sense of security
that comes from having the entire Debian system on a bookshelf in case
the internet goes permanently, irrecoverably down.
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video drivers open source in order to have a competitive advantage over
nvidia and ATI, but they hadn't yet done it. I also heard that at that
time the Intel chips were available on motherboards, but not on plug-in
cards.
Has the situation changed?
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On Tue, Aug 08, 2006 at 11:23:38PM -0500, Russell L. Harris wrote:
> Go to another machine and Make yourself a GRUB boot CD (or, if you
> prefer, a boot floppy). You can boot from the GRUB CD, and then repair
> your system. Everybody ought to keep a GRUB boot CD handy!
How do you make a grub bo
he same reasons
> changing a motherboard without opening the case requires high
> explosives. :o)
uhh.. wouldn't the high explosive open the case?
And how *would* you use lightning to measure the power supply's wattage?
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taller aalso gives you nearly immediate feedback
whether you really have chosen the one that works with your CPU. If it
boots, you got it right. And you haven't wasted time downloading 15 or
so CDs for the wrong machine.
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>
> J.
> --
> I am no longer prepared to
On Sat, Aug 12, 2006 at 02:07:43AM -0500, Seth Goodman wrote:
> On Friday, August 11, 2006 10:39 PM -0500, Anthony M Simonelli wrote:
>
> > I also don't like
> > it when people completely ignore the accomplishments of Microsoft
> > with Windows and rip them to shreds as if their operating system i
ommon 1:7.0-035+1
> [88,4kB]
> ...
>
> Not sure if it is a bug though...
It may be a serious bug in any language where the word for 'no' starts with a y
or the word for 'yes' starts with 'n'<
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>
> --
> -- Jhair
>
>
> --
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call in the expert. If you are lucky, the computer store that
preinstalled WIndows for you will still be in business.
I have had running Linux systems for a very long time now.
But when the Windows on one system failed for the second time, it became
uninstallable. If I hadn
and they still day you're on
your own with Linux.
The day the average computer store asks its customers, Do you want to
pay $250 or so for Windows or get Linux free isn't here yet.
(whereupon the customer will say, what's Linux?)
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&
as usually to a VAX.
IN one case even a PDP-11 runing Unix was superior to a CDC
mainframe) will they realize what a trap they had been in.
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y just won't believe things could be
> > better with another system.
>
> It's called:
> the Devil you know is better than the Devil you don't know.
>
> A very powerful, and often practical, mindset.
>
But it often works out as the Devil you know is bette
g the
BIOS update? Or is the BIOS update governed by another nonupdatable BIOS?
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> >>don't quite remember-- to a CD ROM, pop that in your drive, hit F8, pick
> >>the CD ROM containing the BIOS cd and your on your way.
> >>
> >
> >Do you happen to know how screwed you are if the power fails during the
> >BIOS update? Or
On Sun, Aug 20, 2006 at 12:19:37AM -0400, Nick Lidakis wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >No. I'm insinuating that *I* don't have my beloved box plugged into a
> >high quality APC UPS?
> >
> >-- hendrik
> >
> >
> >
> Is that a state
ell
> it apart from all the other hundreds of recent posts??
>
> ;-)
>
> cr
>
I have debian on most of my machines here. I'm currently running Ubuntu
on my fastest machine because X keeps crashing in Debian (yes, I've
reported the bug). Except for that one
o any list on murphy? that I'm subscribed
> to.
posts weren't dropped IIRC. They were just delayed 24 hours.
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>
>
>
> ? murphy.debian.org is the FQDN for the list server.
>
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> Email and IM (XMPP & Google Talk): [
On Thu, Aug 24, 2006 at 02:36:23PM +0200, Michelle Konzack wrote:
> Am 2006-08-15 20:26:30, schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
> > Do you happen to know how screwed you are if the power fails during the
> > BIOS update? Or is the BIOS update governed by another nonupdatable BIOS?
>
> Asus use Crash-Free
Let's say that the comoand
chop onion
makes two files, tears and pieces
How do I describe this in a Makefile?
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On Fri, Aug 25, 2006 at 03:36:54AM -0500, Mumia W. wrote:
> On 08/24/2006 11:29 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >Let's say that the comoand
> > chop onion
> >makes two files, tears and pieces
> >
> >How do I describe this in a Makefile?
> >
> >
and I have toe dicuss how to
get it runnin again on this mailing list.
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>
> - --
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> Jefferson LA USA
>
> Is "common sense" really valid?
> For example, it is "common sense" to white-power racists that
> whites are superior to blacks
On Mon, Aug 28, 2006 at 04:48:50PM +0200, T wrote:
> Hi
>
> I tried to backup my whole partition with tar:
>
> tar -cvzf /mnt/.../cache11.tgz .
>
> but when testing the archive result with
>
> tar -tzf /mnt/.../cache11.tgz
>
> It ends with the following error, without explaining what's wro
On Wed, Aug 30, 2006 at 05:51:27PM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote:
>
> I've yet to fathom a need for a 2 million message mailbox. Not to mention
> the support structure behind it since 2 million would break or strain both
> maildir and mbox.
Perhaps reiserfs?
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nalyze the headers and put them
> in thread-order, and that would just be a beast.
>
> Besides, how does one manage a 2*10^6 email folder? My 21" monitor
> running at 1280x1024 can only display 45 email subjects. That would
> be *44,445* screens of emails. Totally unmanageable by humans.
Maybe one pixel per message? :-(
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dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
And I was still informed
xserver-xorg postinst warning: not updating /etc/X11/X: file has been
modified.
ls told me:
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lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 13 2006-07-02 12:42 /etc/X11/X -> /usr/bin/Xorg
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and /usr/bin/sorg is a directory.
Why would it want to modify a directory, anyway?
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d, by echoing tha
characters typed onto the screen.
Even control-alt-delete is nicely echoed.
Is this a known problem? Is there a known fix?
It isn't mission-critical, but I sure would like it fixed before etch
goes stable. My workaround is to run sarge instead.
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On Fri, Sep 01, 2006 at 12:36:02AM +0200, Mathias Brodala wrote:
> Hello Hendrik.
>
> > I'm using gdm as my login manager. I have six virtual consoles
> > configured. Graphics is an AIT-Raden-all-in-wonder 8500 card. RAM is
> > 1G. CPU is an athlon.
> &g
ing to make his points as best he can in a language which is not
^^^
> his first. Actually I think he did a fine job.
^^^ ^^
Do you know something I don't? I always thought that Michelle was
female.
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P.S.: Sorry for the provocat
s just copying all the files (using Linux tar) and running lilo hasn't
sufficed.
There seems to be some essential information outside the file system, as far as
I can see.
I mamaged to do this long ago with Windows 98 SE, but as far as I know that
time the boot
information had not bee
pecifically thinking that it was odd for a man to have the name
> Michelle. Obviously I was mistaken...
Well, evidently you did know something I didn't ... As my father used to
say, it ain't the things you don't know that get you -- it's the things
you know damn sure th
> anyone has any suggestions on how best to do this.
If you want to keep them longterm, burn them onto several DVDs, made by
different manufactureres, in different proce-ranges, and then check then
regularly. DVDs aren't forever.
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correct!
>
The mozilla firefox that comes with sarge. It identifies itself as:
Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7.10) Gecko/20060629
Firefox/1.0.4 (Debian package 1.0.4-2sarge9)
And aptitude tells me
i --\ flashplugin-nonfree 7.0.25-5
mmendation for an
inexpensive, *very* *reliable* colour printer that's good enough for a
graphic artist and is completely Linux-compatible. I doesn't have to be
fast. I'd appreciate a waterproof ink.
My epson 777i tended to clog, wasn't very Linux-friendly (my Windows
mach
system logs and not found anything suspicious. But probably I don't
know which logs to look in, or what to look for in them, and it would be
as plain as day if I did.
If this is a known sarge problem, of course upgrading to etch would be
the solution.
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> >
> > > as far as i know preemtive kernels do enhance the response time of the
> > > system but on the other hand hurt performance for some server tasks
> > >
> > > and debian is to my knowlege more widly spread on the server side then
> > > on the desktop side...
I guess I'm confused. I thought the debian kernel was preemptive, and
has been as far as I can remember.
Am I wrong? Or do I have a misunderstanding of what "preemptive" means
in this context?
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r.
Perhaps spamcop should try some reverse spamfiltering on their spamtrap
to identify subscription response messages that intended to poison
their spamtraps.
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base is locked.
>
> Which is strange, because the database in question is a temporary one
> that was just created a few milliseconds before.
>
>
> > mtn found at /farhome/hendrik/install/monotone-0.30/mtn
> ^^^
> But you probably are running on
se this
> scarce resource more effectively, so I am fearful about giving it a
> try. What happens if the 'good answer people' stop paying attention
> and stop noticing to pleas for help? Not good.
Maybe a project to index the mailing list the way dmoz indexes the web?
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>
I have an AMD64 whose Debian crashes
although its Ubuntu runs fine. All the reat of my Lan is
32-bit Debians.
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this mentioned several times, but don't know what it means,
nor how it annoys.
Presumably there is some message-receipt protocol.
(a) How does won request or not request receipts?
(b) How do receipts bother one -- I've never noticed it.
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D64 + some virtual machines on
> Windows) works in Ubuntu.
Well, I find Ubuntu somewhat mysterious, and avoid stressing
it too much. But not *everything* works fine. In particular,
I am unable to get NFS locking to work. Until a few days
ago I could live with it.
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a nuisance. With a proxy, I'd just have to IP-forward to the proxy (or
not, if it was the gateway machine).
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is I suppose quite
> new.
Indeed, I avoided SATA drives because they are so new on my AMD64,
though I have all the sockets for them on my motherboard. I still
eventually gave up on sarge because so much if the hardware was not
supported, and went to etch, which did install (though I've
nly they were all be sorted out before
sarge became stable.
But just repeating the dist upgrade three times resolve most everything,
and the remaining few cleared up in a few weeks with an ordinary
upgrade.
I imagine it's the same story between sarge and etch right now.
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o IP-forward to the proxy (or
> > not, if it was the gateway machine).
> >
>
> Why not just ssh in to the machine and then use screen and
> btdownloadcurses or just btdownloadheadless?
Probably because I hadn't heard of them. I'll look then up.
Thanks.
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ATA-II drives in software RAID-1. Worked like a charm with the
> unofficial Sarge installer.
Given that sarge did not support my graphics chip or my ethernet chip,
I thought it would really be tempting fate to try on a SATA drive as
well. Maybe I was wrong.
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tegory of repositoris between free and
nonfree ...
Merely considering reams of documentation to be nonfree is not the
long-term solution. We need something positive as well.
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f actual information, split bwtween Windows and the rescue
partition.
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On Mon, Oct 02, 2006 at 07:06:16PM +0100, Nuno Miguel dos Santos Baeta wrote:
> Hi!
>
> I want to install Debian in a USB pen drive.
Over my shoulder, I hear the words, "Make sure he doesn't put his swap
file on the pen drive. That would be very bad for the pen drove.&qu
...
>
> Is there a way I can get these two operating systems to agree on how to
> set a clock?
It's possible to tell Linux that the hardware clock is set to local
time. I get asked whether I want to do this on installation, so it
probably can be configured somewhere.
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ract
or otherwise. This has little to do with copyright, though. He can
sign that away, no problem.
By the way, I'm told that when the U.S. "ratified" this convention, they
added a clause to the effect that this inalienable right can be signed
away, thereby making the whole conce
and free.
Doesn't the GPL require you to maintain the copyright notice?
Does that make it nonfree?
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