Re: Debian wheezy 7.4 preseed install fails with error "mirror does not support the specified release (wheezy)

2014-02-21 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 22/02/14 07:00, Sandeep Raman wrote: > OS - Debian wheezy 7.4 amd64 iso cd1 > Preseed section of mirror: > d-i mirror/protocol string ftp > d-i mirror/ftp/hostname string ftp.iitm.ac.in > d-i mirror/ftp/directory string /debian/ > d-i mirror/ftp/proxy string That 'shoul

Re: Installing nodejs binaries as a .deb package

2014-02-21 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 22/02/14 09:49, Blaine LaFreniere wrote: > Hi, I was wondering how I might be able to install the nodejs binaries > as a .deb package, so I could easily uninstall it later. Why not:- https://github.com/joyent/node/wiki/Installing-Node.js-via-package-manager Or:- http://blog.blakesimpson.co.uk/

Re: Installing nodejs binaries as a .deb package

2014-02-21 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 22/02/14 11:39, Scott Ferguson wrote: > On 22/02/14 09:49, Blaine LaFreniere wrote: >> Hi, I was wondering how I might be able to install the nodejs binaries >> as a .deb package, so I could easily uninstall it later. > > Why not:- > https://github.com/joyent/node/wik

Re: Third-Party Software Needs Non-Debian Format for Kernel Version

2014-02-21 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 22/02/14 11:03, Glenn English wrote: > > On Feb 21, 2014, at 4:20 PM, Thomas Vaughan wrote: > >> isn't supported per se. But when [the software], or the makefiles, parse the >> string >> 3.12-1-amd64 >> they don't get the expected result. If the uname -r were the string >> 3.12.9-1

Re: Third-Party Software Needs Non-Debian Format for Kernel Version

2014-02-21 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 22/02/14 13:20, Thomas Vaughan wrote: isn't supported per se. But when [the software], or the makefiles, parse the string 3.12-1-amd64 they don't get the expected result. If the uname -r were the string 3.12.9-1 then parsing it would yield the expected re

Re: Third-Party Software Needs Non-Debian Format for Kernel Version

2014-02-21 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 22/02/14 13:35, Jerry Stuckle wrote: > On 2/21/2014 9:20 PM, Thomas Vaughan wrote: > isn't supported per se. But when [the software], or the makefiles, > parse the string > 3.12-1-amd64 > they don't get the expected result. If the uname -r were the string > 3.12.9

Re: HTTP/HTTPS denied via proxy - SSH DynamicForward/ SOCKS proxy and iiNet "Bob" modem config/admin

2014-02-22 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 22/02/14 20:31, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > I have an iiNet ADSL link at one place, and an SSH server A running > behind that, as well as a HTTPD web server. > > The Internet connection is by way of an iiNet Bob ADSL modem (and > wired and wireless router etc). > > When I ssh to A, with a Dynamic

Re: How to configure eth0 with static ip and eth1 dhcp

2014-02-22 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 23/02/14 09:22, Markos wrote: > Hi all, > > > I'm trying to configure a machine with two network cards to share > Internet access to an internal network > > the /etc/network/interface is: > > # The loopback network interface > auto lo > iface lo inet loopback > > auto eth0 > iface eth0 inet

Re: How to configure eth0 with static ip and eth1 dhcp

2014-02-22 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 23/02/14 09:58, Stephen Powell wrote: > On Sat, 22 Feb 2014 17:22:16 -0500 (EST), Markos wrote: >> >> I'm trying to configure a machine with two network cards to share >> Internet access to an internal network >> >> the /etc/network/interface is: >> >> # The loopback network interface >> auto l

Re: 7z command works fine on command line but not in script

2014-02-22 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 23/02/14 07:39, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: > > > Le 20.02.2014 02:15, Scott Ferguson a écrit : >> On 19/02/14 23:32, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: >>> >>> >>> Le 19.02.2014 10:53, Scott Ferguson a écrit : >>>> Just r

Re: How to configure eth0 with static ip and eth1 dhcp

2014-02-22 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 23/02/14 13:09, Markos wrote: > On 22-02-2014 20:11, Scott Ferguson wrote: >> On 23/02/14 09:58, Stephen Powell wrote: >> >>> On Sat, 22 Feb 2014 17:22:16 -0500 (EST), Markos wrote: >>> >>>> I'm trying to configure a machine with two

Re: Physically have install DVD set. Want ISO's from which they came.

2014-02-23 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 23/02/14 21:00, Reco wrote: > Hi. > > On Sun, 23 Feb 2014 11:45:26 +1100 > David wrote: > >> whereas if you know that you do actually want the output file, it will >> be quicker to >> read it once and then checksum the file like this: >> # dd if=/dev/cdrom bs=2048 count=23150592 conv=notru

Re: netcat usage.

2014-02-23 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 24/02/14 07:49, Peter Easthope wrote: > References: <9802e1a04541ccc2a9d2c5d8b89c6c0f.squir...@easthope.ca> > <23022014193900.3e6e4cc30...@desktop.copernicus.demon.co.uk> > > I'll be putting References in the header again soon. > > From: Brian > Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2014 19:43:12 + >> Which

Re: netcat usage.

2014-02-24 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 24/02/14 15:44, Peter Easthope wrote: > References: > <530a9882.4040...@gmail.com> > > From: Scott Ferguson > Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2014 11:55:30 +1100 >> NOTE: there four different "netcats" available in Wheezy. > > I found three. > netca

Re: netcat usage.

2014-02-24 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 24/02/14 20:07, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > I'd include socat in the list, but perhaps it's command line options > are different? socat is my preferred network swiss army knife. > > A little different, but there are also netsed, netrw etc. > > And the excellent crypcat - but I just counted the

Re: Am I paranoid?

2014-02-24 Thread Scott Ferguson
Yes - you are paranoid. There is no conspiracy. Those files were installed by the operator/user/sysadmin. So relax. :) If you want to remove them:- # apt-get remove open-vm-tools open-vm-toolbox On 25/02/14 03:04, ha wrote: > >> I did. It only shows that files are there: >> /etc/pam.d/

Re: Am I paranoid?

2014-02-24 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 25/02/14 04:44, Reco wrote: > On Mon, 24 Feb 2014 18:26:30 +0100 > Nemeth Gyorgy wrote: > >> 2014-02-24 18:05 keltezéssel, Reco írta: >>> Well, that's good. Meaning, that's simply a misuse of root, not a >>> rooted host. No reinstall in necessary, probably, simple removal of: >>> >>> /etc/init

Re: Wireless AP setup: RTL8188CUS

2014-02-24 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 25/02/14 07:03, Csanyi Pal wrote: > Csanyi Pal writes: > >> Csanyi Pal writes: >> >>> Hi Selim, >>> >>> "Selim T. Erdogan" writes: >>> >>>> Csanyi Pal, 3.02.2014: >>>>> Csanyi Pa

Re: open files/ forcing dismount

2014-02-24 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 25/02/14 14:21, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > One long term "non-easy" issue that keeps coming up a few times a > year, is attempting to dismount an external drive/usb stick and this > failing due to a file being opened. > > lsof is a good start, and sometimes advised in the error message with > som

Re: Am I paranoid?

2014-02-24 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 25/02/14 11:03, Scott Ferguson wrote: > Yes - you are paranoid. There is no conspiracy. Those files were > installed by the operator/user/sysadmin. > So relax. :) > > If you want to remove them:- > # apt-get remove open-vm-tools open-vm-toolbox and # apt-get remove zer

Re: open files/ forcing dismount

2014-02-24 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 25/02/14 14:58, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > On 2/25/14, Scott Ferguson wrote: >> On 25/02/14 14:21, Zenaan Harkness wrote: >>> One long term "non-easy" issue that keeps coming up a few times a >>> year, is attempting to dismount an external drive/usb stick and

Re: Am I paranoid?

2014-02-24 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 25/02/14 16:16, Reco wrote: > Hi. > > On Tue, 25 Feb 2014 11:07:23 +1100 > Scott Ferguson wrote: > >> Am I missing part of the thread? > > Probably no, as you've replied in it: > > https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2014/02/msg01346.html >

Re: Am I paranoid?

2014-02-24 Thread Scott Ferguson
Thanks for replying On 25/02/14 17:10, Reco wrote: > Hi. > > On Tue, 25 Feb 2014 16:48:37 +1100 > Scott Ferguson wrote: > >> Please note the difference between *are/is* installed, and *were* installed. > > There's a difference, indeed. > > >

Re: Am I paranoid?

2014-02-24 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 25/02/14 17:22, John L. Ries wrote: > On Mon, 24 Feb 2014, Scott Ferguson wrote: > >> Yes - you are paranoid. There is no conspiracy. Those files were >> installed by the operator/user/sysadmin. >> So relax. :) >> > Besides, we're not scheduled to come af

Re: Am I paranoid?

2014-02-25 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 25/02/14 21:40, ha wrote: > >> I'd hate to hold anyone responsible for their memory - AFAIK no one can >> remember what they don't remember (this is why we take notes and run >> script) - I can only assume their memory is complete. With other areas a >> guess/"instinct" may be good enough - wit

Re: Am I paranoid?

2014-02-25 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 26/02/14 02:23, Reco wrote: > Hi. > > On Tue, 25 Feb 2014 18:24:50 +1100 > Scott Ferguson wrote: > >>> My guess is that this situation is the result of invoking: >>> dpkg -X *deb / >>> >>> or, simply unpacking a tarball into /. >>&g

Re: HELP !!! confused trying to install tshark on wheezy

2014-02-26 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 27/02/14 08:38, Kirt Odle wrote: > I am very new to Debian ( and any other linux ) and I'm trying to install > tshark. > > I've downloaded tshark and have run the command ... dpkg -i > tshark_1.8.2-5wheezy9_i386.deb > > This printed out a lot of errors and listed missing libraries and other

Re: After moving root partition to ssd, debian boots directly to runlevel 0 (shutdown)

2014-02-26 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 27/02/14 15:37, Meier wrote: > In my laptop there is a SSD which I decided to finally use. So I made > one big partition out of it, and copied my root file system onto it (cp > -ax, while / was mounted read-only). My root filesystem includes /var > but not /home or /boot. I'm using the actual de

Re: BIOS Administrator Pasword Workaround

2014-02-27 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 27/02/14 20:46, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > On 27/02/2014 09:36, Weaver wrote: >> I've forgotten what the original BIOS administrator password was, however, >> so don't access to change the boot sequence. If I remove the CMOS battery, >> that should do it and I shouldn't lose anything other than t

Re: Testing Hangs in VM

2014-02-27 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 28/02/14 01:41, Stephen P. Molnar wrote: > I have tried to install this week's Testing in a VM on my Laptop and > found that the installer hangs at Configure he package > > > > manager/Configuring apt/Scanning the CD-ROM... > > > > In the current versions of both VMware Player and Oracle

Re: Testing Hangs in VM

2014-02-27 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 28/02/14 01:48, Henning Follmann wrote: > On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 09:41:59AM -0500, Stephen P. Molnar wrote: >> I have tried to install this week's Testing in a VM on my Laptop and found >> that the installer hangs at Configure he package >> >> >> >> manager/Configuring apt/Scanning the CD-RO

Re: USB WiFi adapter doesn't work with Wheezy (but does work with Ubuntu)

2014-02-27 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 28/02/14 07:13, Klaus wrote: > On 27/02/14 16:53, dclinton wrote: >> >> I copied that file over to my Debian machine >> >> Error: could not insert module rt5572sta.ko: Invalid module format > > > As you found by trial and error, you can't just copy kernel modules > between kernel versions. > A

Re: Testing Hangs in VM

2014-02-27 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 28/02/14 05:56, Henning Follmann wrote: > On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 02:05:19AM +1100, Scott Ferguson wrote: >> On 28/02/14 01:48, Henning Follmann wrote: >>> On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 09:41:59AM -0500, Stephen P. Molnar wrote: >>>> I have tried to install this week&

Re: Testing Hangs in VM

2014-02-27 Thread Scott Ferguson
using embedded preseed) when I get some time today. Perhaps someone who has done a bare-metal install with this release (2014-02-24) could comment on their experience?? When I looked there was no bugs reported on the cdimage page for this weeks bake. Kind regards > > Cheers, > &g

Re: Testing Hangs in VM

2014-02-27 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 28/02/14 09:57, Scott Ferguson wrote: > Thanks for the detailed post, but... please don't top-post (you can move > the mouse in Gmail) ;) > https://wiki.debian.org/DebianMailingLists#Interleaved > > > > On 28/02/14 09:07, Thomas Luzat wrote: >> Hi, >

Re: Testing Hangs in VM

2014-02-27 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 28/02/14 09:57, Scott Ferguson wrote: > > On 28/02/14 09:07, Thomas Luzat wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I've just encountered the same problem. I do not have the verbatim log >> around, but noticed the following: > > ...I'm going to try and install

Re: Problems with Testing Install - More Info

2014-02-27 Thread Scott Ferguson
*Please* don't send HTML to the list:- https://wiki.debian.org/DebianMailingLists#Plain_text I know ATmail doesn't gives you any choices, but there are plenty of MUAs that do:- https://wiki.debian.org/DebianMailingLists#ATmail_Webmail Note also that this appears to be the same issue as:- https:/

Re: Testing Hangs in VM

2014-02-28 Thread Scott Ferguson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 28/02/14 20:11, Slavko wrote: > Ahoj, > > Dňa Fri, 28 Feb 2014 14:09:13 +1100 Scott Ferguson > napísal: > >> The installer stalls at d-i Stage 5, apt-setup, with the process >> hung at 11% - it appears as if "

Re: bios access

2014-02-28 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 28/02/14 23:35, Diogene Laerce wrote: > Hi, > > Id like to install debian on a M10 from Meiying : does anybody know how > to access the BIOS ? > > Thank you > BIOS? They have a BIOS? You need to gain root. 1. Download and intall:- http://www.unlockroot.com/ (or a free program with similar

Re: Mysterius Download

2014-02-28 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 01/03/14 00:06, Markos wrote: > Hi Everybody, > > The browser takes a long time to open the pages but the applet > "properties of network connection" shows a high download rate. Which browser? > > But I'm not downloading anything! But your browser might be e.g. extension updates, synchronis

Re: integrating Debian into a windows 2003 domain

2014-02-28 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 01/03/14 01:47, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: > Hello. > > I am trying to integrate my computer into the domain at work. Until know > I did not really tried, but I tried to search around the web for more > than 20m and only found documents which were at least 4 years old, and > so, using

Re: Mutt: SSL Certificate check ... SASL authentication failed

2014-02-28 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 01/03/14 13:59, Peter Easthope wrote: > In accord to https://wiki.debian.org/Mutt, these four lines are in .muttrc. > > set smtp_url = "smtps://pe...@easthope.ca:465" # ESMTP with TLS > set smtp_pass="_" > set from="pe...@easthope.ca" > set realname="Pete" > > A test message yields th

Re: Re^2: Mutt: SSL Certificate check ... SASL authentication failed

2014-02-28 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 01/03/14 16:38, Peter Easthope wrote: > References: <2b8c71ec0272453c696df1a5d4ad9c87.squir...@easthope.ca> > <53115869.3090...@gmail.com> > > From: Scott Ferguson > Date: Sat, 01 Mar 2014 14:47:53 +1100 >> Shouldn't that certificate be for dom

Re: Testing Hangs in VM

2014-03-01 Thread Scott Ferguson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 28/02/14 20:11, Slavko wrote: > Ahoj, > > Dňa Fri, 28 Feb 2014 14:09:13 +1100 Scott Ferguson > napísal: > >> The installer stalls at d-i Stage 5, apt-setup, with the process >> hung at 11% - it appears as if "

Re: Testing Hangs in VM

2014-03-01 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 28/02/14 20:11, Slavko wrote: > Ahoj, > > Dňa Fri, 28 Feb 2014 14:09:13 +1100 Scott Ferguson > napísal: > >> The installer stalls at d-i Stage 5, apt-setup, with the process hung >> at 11% - it appears as if "apt-cdrom add" has been invoked but >&

Re: Re^2: Mutt: SSL Certificate check ... SASL authentication failed

2014-03-01 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 01/03/14 22:41, Dan Purgert wrote: > On 01/03/2014 00:38, Peter Easthope wrote: >> References: <2b8c71ec0272453c696df1a5d4ad9c87.squir...@easthope.ca> >> <53115869.3090...@gmail.com> >> >> From: Scott Ferguson >> Date: Sat, 01 Mar 2014 14:47:5

Re: Testing Hangs in VM

2014-03-01 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 02/03/14 03:44, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Sb, 01 mar 14, 17:20:44, Slavko wrote: >> Dňa Sat, 01 Mar 2014 21:00:23 +1100 Scott Ferguson >> napísal: >> >>> See "Bug#740073: netinst hangs on scanning CD-ROM" >> >> You can add comment into me

Re: Testing Hangs in VM

2014-03-01 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 02/03/14 03:20, Slavko wrote: > Hi, > > Dňa Sat, 01 Mar 2014 21:00:23 +1100 Scott Ferguson > napísal: > >> See "Bug#740073: netinst hangs on scanning CD-ROM" >> > > You can add comment into mentioned bug (i forgot details ;-) ), to > anothe

Re: Four people decided the fate of debian with systemd. Bad faith likely

2014-03-01 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 02/03/14 08:09, disbandtechc...@tfwno.gf wrote: > FOUR people made a decision that would once have required > thousands of votes. FOUR votes overrideds the decision > debian took before the tech-ctte dictatorship to standardize > on system V init rather than bsd style init scripts > > The tech-

Re: Four people decided the fate of debian with systemd. Bad faith likely

2014-03-01 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 02/03/14 11:28, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Sun, 2014-03-02 at 10:55 +1100, Scott Ferguson wrote: >> Here's mine:- >> troll elsewhere - try rabbleRus.org or LetMeTellUWhat2Do.mob > > :D > > We Arch users made a poll. Even if more users would have been against >

Re: Four people decided the fate of debian with systemd. Bad faith likely

2014-03-01 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 02/03/14 12:26, ghaverla wrote: > On Sun, 02 Mar 2014 01:28:38 +0100 > Ralf Mardorf wrote: > >> We Arch users made a poll. Even if more users would have been against >> systemd, the developers would have switched to systemd, but most users >> wanted systemd. We, around 49% and me were against

Re: Four people decided the fate of debian with systemd. Bad faith likely

2014-03-01 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 02/03/14 16:53, y...@marupa.net wrote: > On Sunday, March 02, 2014 04:25:13 PM Scott Ferguson wrote: >> On 02/03/14 11:28, Ralf Mardorf wrote: >>> On Sun, 2014-03-02 at 10:55 +1100, Scott Ferguson wrote: >>>> Here's mine:- >>>> troll elsewhe

Re: Partial success and strange partial failure -was [Re: Physically have install DVD set. Want ISO's from which they came.]

2014-03-01 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 02/03/14 11:39, Richard Owlett wrote: > Brian wrote: >> On Sat 01 Mar 2014 at 14:38:14 -0600, Richard Owlett wrote: >> >>> Created myiso1.iso from Wheezy(7.1) DVD 1 of 10 using dd and then >>> used dd to copy it to a USB flash drive. >>> >>> I was able to boot from the flash drive and do several

Re: Partial success and strange partial failure -was [Re: Physically have install DVD set. Want ISO's from which they came.]

2014-03-02 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 02/03/14 18:59, David wrote: > On 2 March 2014 18:54, David wrote: >> On 2 March 2014 18:32, Scott Ferguson >> wrote: >>> >>> For some reason your posts have broken threads and I can't find the >>> first one. :/ >> >> https://li

Re: Test

2014-03-02 Thread Scott Ferguson
As much for other, future, "test" posters as for you. On 02/03/14 20:06, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Sun, 2014-03-02 at 06:29 +, Tom Furie wrote: >> On Sun, Mar 02, 2014 at 01:41:48AM +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: >> >>> My apologies, I'm aware that no test mails should be send to the Debian >>> use

Re: French Guinea / Guiana

2014-03-02 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 02/03/14 20:22, Pascal Hambourg wrote: > Scott Ferguson a écrit : >> >> Even though the spooks do like the French Guinea TLD > > .gf is the ccTLD for French Guiana (Guyane française), a french > department and region in South America. > > French Guinea was a fren

Re: Partial success and strange partial failure -was [Re: Physically have install DVD set. Want ISO's from which they came.]

2014-03-02 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 02/03/14 22:06, Richard Owlett wrote: > Scott Ferguson wrote: >> On 02/03/14 11:39, Richard Owlett wrote: >>> Brian wrote: >>>> On Sat 01 Mar 2014 at 14:38:14 -0600, Richard Owlett wrote: >>>> >>>>> Created myiso1.iso from Wheezy(7.1) DV

Re: Four people decided the fate of debian with systemd. Bad faith likely

2014-03-02 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 02/03/14 23:21, disbandtechc...@tfwno.gf wrote: > Regular inits are under 10k lines of code inclusive. Um, are you kind of limiting your audience? The vast majority of the readers of this list are familiar with the internet. Have *you* heard of it? Did you consider they might check? You know

Re: Four people decided the fate of debian with systemd. Bad faith likely

2014-03-02 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 03/03/14 05:28, Doug wrote: > On 03/02/2014 02:02 AM, Scott Ferguson wrote: >> On 02/03/14 16:53, y...@marupa.net wrote: >>> On Sunday, March 02, 2014 04:25:13 PM Scott Ferguson wrote: >>>> On 02/03/14 11:28, Ralf Mardorf wrote: >>>>> On Sun, 20

Re: Bug#727708: Call for Votes on init system coupling

2014-03-02 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 03/03/14 09:43, NoTo CTTE wrote: An informed, enlightening, and calm perspective:- http://lwn.net/Articles/585219/ Kind regards -- "Knowledge is the enemy of faith and ignorance" -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble?

Re: Four people decided the fate of debian with systemd. Bad faith likely

2014-03-02 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 03/03/14 11:31, ghaverla wrote: > On Sun, 02 Mar 2014 16:53:59 +1100 > Scott Ferguson wrote: > >>> I disagree with the binaryness of >>> systemd. >> >> Do you mean the *one* binary in systemd? I'm pretty sure the source >> is available. &

Re: Firmware stuff - was systemd troll

2014-03-03 Thread Scott Ferguson
omplete >> fabrications likely Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2014 19:21:09 + >> (UTC) Resent-From: debian-user@lists.debian.org >> >> On Sunday, March 02, 2014 01:28:57 PM Doug wrote: >>> On 03/02/2014 02:02 AM, Scott Ferguson wrote: >>>> On 02/03/14 1

Re: Four people decided the fate of debian with systemd. Bad faith likely

2014-03-03 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 03/03/14 17:00, ghaverla wrote: > On Mon, 03 Mar 2014 12:52:40 +1100 > Scott Ferguson wrote: > >> You *imagine*, not "think" (using reductive logic?). I'm sure your >> not a bully who forces your ideas onto those that do want fast boot >> instead o

Re: Install a package without download and installation step from other packages

2014-03-03 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 03/03/14 19:10, Fatemeh m wrote: > Hi, > I installed debian 7 on another system, I want to copy the packages from > my system and paste them to the other system, but without download and > also without need to install them. > tanx Copy the packages to the other system. You can do that by CD/DV

Re: was Four people troll - now meandering off elsewhere

2014-03-03 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 03/03/14 23:28, Fred Wilson wrote: > On Mon, 03 Mar 2014 12:52:40 +1100 > Scott Ferguson wrote: > >> Which is fine for you, and I can understand and appreciate that, for my >> own personal computers my sentiments are similar. However my business >> purposes invo

Re: Four people troll and systemd FUD

2014-03-03 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 04/03/14 00:40, Stephan Seitz wrote: > On Mon, Mar 03, 2014 at 12:52:40PM +1100, Scott Ferguson wrote: >> own personal computers my sentiments are similar. However my business >> purposes involve meeting SLAs so reboots once or twice a year can cost a >> lot of money - so i

Re: was Four people troll - now meandering off elsewhere

2014-03-03 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 04/03/14 08:41, Miles Fidelman wrote: > Scott Ferguson wrote: >> On 03/03/14 23:28, Fred Wilson wrote: >>> On Mon, 03 Mar 2014 12:52:40 +1100 Scott Ferguson >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Which is fine for you, and I can understand and appreciate >&g

Re: Troll and systemd FUD

2014-03-03 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 04/03/14 03:19, Gian Uberto Lauri wrote: > Arnold Bird/Fred Smith/Troll writes: > >> Would it be possible for russia to maintain a classic >> debian linux distribution > > It would support the kremvax architecture but have some *nietwork* > problems > Very punny! :D Kind regards --

Re: was Four people troll - now meandering off elsewhere

2014-03-03 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 04/03/14 09:32, Miles Fidelman wrote: > Scott Ferguson wrote: >> On 04/03/14 08:41, Miles Fidelman wrote: >>> Scott Ferguson wrote: >>>> On 03/03/14 23:28, Fred Wilson wrote: >>>>> On Mon, 03 Mar 2014 12:52:40 +1100 Scott Ferguson >>>>

Re: Proposal - preserve freedom of choice of init systems - SysV is FINE.

2014-03-03 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 04/03/14 11:02, Arnold Bird wrote: > I myself do not like systemd either. Bully for you. You've pointed that out, many times. Maybe using all those different names has further confused you - Fred Wilson, Natural Linux, NoStuffIdontUnderstand, etc, unless... it's all an act. -- To UNSUBSCRI

Re: more spammy Systemd FUD from the chocolate teapot project

2014-03-03 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 04/03/14 13:22, Sam Kuper wrote: >> --- dmcgarr...@optonline.net wrote: >> From: Doug >> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org >> Subject: Re: Proposal - preserve freedom of choice of init systems - SysV is >> FINE. >> Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2014 19:27:23 -0500 >> [...] >> 1. Debian is *not* the universa

Re: Firmware stuff - was systemd FUD

2014-03-03 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 04/03/14 17:11, Bret Busby wrote: > On Mon, 3 Mar 2014, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > >> >> On Lu, 03 mar 14, 18:57:09, Bret Busby wrote: >>> >>> I think that it is unfortunate that we are apparently expected to >>> throw out all of our hardware (including printers and other such >>> accessories), an

Re: Who changes /bin/ping on my system ?

2014-03-04 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 04/03/14 19:16, Tim Ruehsen wrote: > Hi, > > every now and than ping loses it's capabilities to be executed by a normal > user. Like here: > $ ping example.com > ping: icmp open socket: Operation not permitted > > I didn't care so far and just reinstalled iputils-ping and everything worked >

Re: Who changes /bin/ping on my system ?

2014-03-04 Thread Scott Ferguson
Second thoughts On 04/03/14 20:17, Scott Ferguson wrote: > On 04/03/14 19:16, Tim Ruehsen wrote: >> Hi, >> >> every now and than ping loses it's capabilities to be executed by a normal >> user. Like here: >> $ ping example.com >> ping: icmp open s

Re: Proposal - preserve freedom of choice of init systems - SysV is FINE.

2014-03-04 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 05/03/14 01:37, Dave Woyciesjes wrote: > On 3/3/2014 7:27 PM, Doug wrote: >> >> /snip/ >> >> Two comments: >> 1. Debian is *not* the universal operating system. After Windows and Mac >> OsX, and maybe Unix, probably Ubuntu is. > > I'd have to give the Universal crown to NetBSD: > http://www

Re: Who changes /bin/ping on my system ?

2014-03-04 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 05/03/14 09:46, John Hasler wrote: > Scott Ferguson writes: >> Sorry I don't have access to a Sid box at the moment - perhaps someone >> who has, and for whom ping is working could post the output of "getcap >> `which ping`"?? > > /bin/ping = cap_net

Re: mounting nfs on boot -- Was: Replacing systemd

2014-03-04 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 05/03/14 10:36, Rob Owens wrote: > On Tue, Mar 04, 2014 at 01:52:19PM +, Darac Marjal wrote: >> Boot speed isn't systemd's goal. It's just a side-effect. >> >> Systemd's real goals are being event driven (so, for example, you >> don't mount a file system until the device is ready - at the >

Re: mounting nfs on boot -- Was: Replacing systemd

2014-03-04 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 05/03/14 11:34, Rob Owens wrote: > On Wed, Mar 05, 2014 at 11:07:00AM +1100, Scott Ferguson wrote: >> On 05/03/14 10:36, Rob Owens wrote: >>> On Tue, Mar 04, 2014 at 01:52:19PM +, Darac Marjal wrote: >>>> Boot speed isn't systemd's goal. It's

Re: gnutls security breach

2014-03-05 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 05/03/14 19:10, Ric Moore wrote: > Anyone see this? > http://arstechnica.com/security/2014/03/critical-crypto-bug-leaves-linux-hundreds-of-apps-open-to-eavesdropping/ > arsetechnica tend, like all traffic revenue generating "news" sites, to overhype things. > > Good thing Red Hat caught it:

Re: can't build modules after kernel update

2014-03-05 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 05/03/14 21:14, Tamer Higazi wrote: > Hi people! > > I have updated the kernel, and removed the old one, sources, > kbuild,linux-header and modules from the old kernel. > I have installed the updated, kernel, modules,kbuild,headers with the > same version number from the current one. > > Now I

Re: bios access

2014-03-05 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 05/03/14 22:08, Diogene Laerce wrote: > Hi, > > Thanks for your answer. > >>> Id like to install debian on a M10 from Meiying : does anybody know how >>> to access the BIOS ? >>> > >> You need to gain root. >> >> 1. Download and intall:- >> http://www.unlockroot.com/ (or a free program with

Re: Who changes /bin/ping on my system ?

2014-03-05 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 05/03/14 22:23, Brian wrote: > On Wed 05 Mar 2014 at 10:37:44 +1100, Scott Ferguson wrote: > >> There still remains the problem of why does it stop working. Bugreport? > > If the OP had an explanation for his /bin/ping in reality being > /bin/ping6 it might lead to a rea

Re: Who changes /bin/ping on my system ?

2014-03-05 Thread Scott Ferguson
Correction On 05/03/14 22:41, Scott Ferguson wrote: > On 05/03/14 22:23, Brian wrote: >> On Wed 05 Mar 2014 at 10:37:44 +1100, Scott Ferguson wrote: >> >> >> root@testing-jan20:~# getcap /bin/ping >> /bin/ping = cap_net_raw+ep >> >> r

Re: Who changes /bin/ping on my system ?

2014-03-05 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 06/03/14 01:04, Brian wrote: > On Wed 05 Mar 2014 at 22:48:08 +1100, Scott Ferguson wrote: > > '*cp -a* /bin/ping' preserves the suid bit or > capabilities. > > Thanks for the tip on the archive parameter, noted so I won't forget it - hopefully. Kind re

Re: gnutls security breach

2014-03-05 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 06/03/14 05:59, NoSpaze wrote: > On Wed, 2014-03-05 at 03:10 -0500, Ric Moore wrote: >> Anyone see this? >> http://arstechnica.com/security/2014/03/critical-crypto-bug-leaves-linux-hundreds-of-apps-open-to-eavesdropping/ >> Yeow! I just did update / upgrade to Jessy, but didn't see the security

Re: Installing Debian debian-live-7.4-amd64

2014-03-05 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 06/03/14 11:22, Gilles Pelletier wrote: > I have been wanting to install Debian for a long time but have never > succeded. > Now I really want to succeed. > Live dvd works well and connects to internet. > Install stalls when detecting hardware. > Graphical install stalls at screen titled "Detect

Re: Installing Debian debian-live-7.4-amd64

2014-03-05 Thread Scott Ferguson
00 Gilles Pelletier <mailto:pellg...@gmail.com>>: > > Internet is cable and wired. I don't know what tethered is. I think > dhcp, since it connects automatically. What command would I use to > find out about my motherboard? > > > 2014-03-05 19:43 GMT-05:00 Scot

Re: transparent proxy

2014-03-06 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 06/03/14 16:31, Chris wrote: > Hi Scott, > > On 03/04/2014 10:17 AM, Scott Ferguson wrote: >> I route suspect boxes through a transparent proxy to see if there are >> channels in use that shouldn't be. > > are you using port mirroring or any special software

Re: Need suggestion about what's going on

2014-03-06 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 06/03/14 15:04, lina wrote: > Hi, > > I use Ghostery with firefox. Ghostery, Firefox... Debian?? Do you mean Iceweasel? I don't understand why people run Firefox in Debian... I run the latest Iceweasel - it's the same version as Firefox and any differences are to my advantage (mutter, mutter,

Re: feature request for this mailing list

2014-03-06 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 06/03/14 21:01, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: > Hello. > > As I am starting to subscribe to various mailing lists, I have noticed > that some uses a kind of tag in subjects. Obviously, it is added by the > ml-engine, not by users. Yes. My local LUG and other lists do the same thing - ap

Re: Installing Debian debian-live-7.4-amd64

2014-03-06 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 06/03/14 21:47, Darac Marjal wrote: > On Thu, Mar 06, 2014 at 02:21:34PM +1100, Scott Ferguson wrote: >> On 06/03/14 14:05, Gilles Pelletier wrote: >>> user@debian:~$ lspci |grep net 07:00.0 Ethernet controller: >>> Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168B PCI E

Re: Can't parse interface line '#015'

2014-03-06 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 07/03/14 01:59, lina wrote: > Hi, > >>From syslog, it shows me: > > Mar 6 10:47:05 debian NetworkManager[6729]: Error: Can't parse > interface line '#015' > > # cat -n interfaces > 1# This file describes the network interfaces available on your > system > 2# and ho

Re: Can't parse interface line '#015'

2014-03-07 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 07/03/14 17:36, Tom Furie wrote: > On Fri, Mar 07, 2014 at 11:53:24AM +1100, Scott Ferguson wrote: >> On 07/03/14 01:59, lina wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> >From syslog, it shows me: >>> >>> Mar 6 10:47:05 debian NetworkManager[6729]: Erro

Re: questions about password safes

2014-03-07 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 08/03/14 03:56, Paul E Condon wrote: > I run Wheezy, desktop Xfce. I want to start using a password > safe. I've done some searching on the Web and would like to use Bruce > Schneier's "Password Safe". Good choice. There are a myriad of "secure" password managers available. Unlike many of the o

Re: Samba 4

2014-03-07 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 08/03/14 06:18, Shane Johnson wrote: > I have been working on this for 3 days now and need some assistance > please. > > Somewhere, I am running into a disconnect between documentations. I > have used the resources on wiki.samba.org > to try and set up just a simple f

Re: domain-name option during the installation of Debian

2014-03-07 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 08/03/14 12:40, Martin T wrote: > Hi, > > during the installation of Debian, one is asked for "domain name". If it's not set automatically (by arping?) > Only place where it seems to be used is for completing the FQDN's: > > root@localhost:~# find / \( \( -path "/proc" -o -path "/sys" \) -a

Re: domain-name option during the installation of Debian

2014-03-07 Thread Scott Ferguson
ces) and the latter is a list I don't know the full extent of. > So far it seems to be used only for completing the domain names. Yes (AFAIK). But that's used for a lot of things (using getdomainname). > > > regards, Martin > > On Sat, Mar 8, 2014 at 2:04 A

Re: questions about password safes

2014-03-08 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 08/03/14 18:36, Ken Heard wrote: > At the risk of allowing this thread to drift further, I have > another question about password managers. Both Iceweasel and > Icedove have such managers for all the passwords needed to open > accounts accessed through those two packages. How does the > securi

Re: web/gui network server package?

2014-03-09 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 10/03/14 10:32, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > There are various OpenWRT distributions, including one based on > Debian: https://wiki.debian.org/DebianWRT > > but the debian WRT appears to be command line only at this point. > > However, I'm just running on intel hardware Then DebianWRT is out of t

Re: On what is helpful and what is not [was: Re: Wifi]

2014-03-09 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 10/03/14 11:15, Dave Woyciesjes wrote: > On 03/09/2014 06:09 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: >> On Du, 09 mar 14, 01:39:56, Steve Litt of Troubleshooters.Com wrote: >> > Really, calling the OP a "nub" ( whatever the hell he means by that) > isn't an insult? And you think there was no condescendin

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