On 02/03/14 11:28, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Sun, 2014-03-02 at 10:55 +1100, Scott Ferguson wrote: >> Here's mine:- >> troll elsewhere - try rabbleRus.org or LetMeTellUWhat2Do.mob > > :D > > We Arch users made a poll. Even if more users would have been against > systemd, the developers would have switched to systemd, but most users > wanted systemd. We, around 49% and me were against systemd, but around > 51 % were pro systemd. Nowadays it makes live easier for all of us who > use several different distros, when _all_ or at least the most important > distros will switch to systemd. To discuss pros and cons of systemd a > time machine is needed, to go back more than 3 years ago. To discuss it > in 2014 is a little bit to late. > >
Same with Debian based on what I read, the vote was fairly evenly split, which is why it went to the Technical Committee, who were also fairly evenly split. My concern is that it's a divisive issue that would be tempting for third parties to exacerbate and exploit. Commercial software vendors, and the companies that do their "marketing" and "public relation" might want to take advantage of the situation to reduce the market share they lose to Debian (and Linux as a whole). It wouldn't be that far from the sort of dirty tactics they've employed in the past. And then there's NSA (and the companies they outsource to) - they *do* have an agenda that would be furthered by creating divisions and uncertainty in Debian. They've made large investments in software hooked to the existing init system - and while they'll have to retool to use systemd it doesn't mean they have the same access required to replace existing malware installations, additionally they would probably enjoy seeing less people use Debian. I'm not saying the OP is a shill/disinformation/agent provocateur - just because it looks like a duck, paddles like a duck, and has it's head hidden, doesn't mean it is a duck. Could be just a decoy. Even though the spooks do like the French Guinea TLD and get their scripts from PsyOps... just a thought, probably paranoia on my part. Kind regards -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/5312c0b9.1060...@gmail.com