do I need to re-install from scratch?

2003-07-24 Thread Richard Lyons
Can anyone advise me? I installed Woody from CD on a laptop without an internet connection. Now, when I plug in the NIC (PCcard), I cannot get any connection - when I try # ifconfig eth0 192.168.0.7 netmask 255.255.255.0 up I get SIOCSIFADDR: No such device eth0: ERROR while getting interface

Re: PCMCIA NIC -was "do I need to re-install from scratch?"

2003-07-24 Thread Richard Lyons
On Thursday 24 July 2003 17:19, Nicos Gollan wrote: > On Thursday 24 July 2003 18:14, Richard Lyons wrote: > > Can anyone advise me? I installed Woody from CD on a laptop > > without an internet connection. Now, when I plug in the NIC > > (PCcard), I cannot get any co

Re: sound configuration in Debian

2003-07-26 Thread Richard Lyons
On Saturday 26 July 2003 13:57, Andrew McGuinness wrote: [...] > # adduser fred audio I was hoping this was my problem too, but no. Mine is not a soundblaster, it is woody on a thinkpad570, which I believe has a Cirrus Logic CS 4614 Chip (but I don't know as it's second user kit with no docume

Re: sound configuration in Debian

2003-07-26 Thread Richard Lyons
Thanks guys. Andreas, Greg, and Paul: all your advice was good. Added the module and all is sunshine! -- richard -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: 'Non-empty' directory deletion.

2003-07-26 Thread Richard Lyons
On Sunday 27 July 2003 01:01, Adam Bogacki wrote: > Hi, I'm trying to delete > > /home/adam/.enlightenment/themes/FossilsOfTheMachines > > but I can't get 'rmdir' to work on a full directory. Neither > > rmdir -r [filename] > rmdir s [filename] /or/ > rmdir --ignore-non-empty-directory [filename] >

how to set up NIC

2003-07-28 Thread Richard Lyons
I am attempting to install debian on a Thinkpad570 (Woody from CDs, using bf24). I have plugged in a PCMCIA network interface. How do I configure it? I've configured /etc/hosts and /etc/pcmcia/network.opts (well, I think I have - they look fairly self-explanatory), and I've written an /etc

Re: how to set up NIC

2003-07-28 Thread Richard Lyons
On Monday 28 July 2003 15:17, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Mon, Jul 28, 2003 at 01:38:08PM +0100, Richard Lyons wrote: > > I am attempting to install debian on a Thinkpad570 (Woody from > > CDs, using bf24). I have plugged in a PCMCIA network interface. > > How do I configure

still can't install deb with PCMCIA NIC

2003-07-28 Thread Richard Lyons
In spite of previous help, I'm getting nowhere. I thought I had solved this by using the Linux Format coverdisk Morphix, which installed everything, recognised the NIC - all perfect. Only problem, when I installed it to the hard drive, the installer didn't set up lilo, and the system was unbo

more install problems

2003-07-29 Thread Richard Lyons
I gather I am exceptionally dim or have exceptionally poor hardware. I am near to giving up on this. I had a working Debian on the Thinkpad570, then started again in order to get the NIC installed. Now I can't even complete an install. When Installing the base system, it appears to complete

Re: new-bie problem

2003-07-29 Thread Richard Lyons
On Tuesday 29 July 2003 20:05, Mark C wrote: > On Tue, 2003-07-29 at 14:13, Joydeep Bakshi wrote: > > Hi all, > > I can enter into the interactive mode of Redhat by pressing * key > > i * at the time of booting. but this technique doesn't work in > > Debian . how to get the same thing in Debian ? >

Re: more install problems

2003-07-29 Thread Richard Lyons
Okay, this supersedes the previous. I have succeeded in installing Woody on the Thinkpad, using the 'dummy' network interface. A stack of errors which will be easily cleared up as soon as I actually can connect to the internet, via our home-office ethernet. The interface card claims to suppo

Re: more install problems

2003-07-30 Thread Richard Lyons
On Wednesday 30 July 2003 02:29, Antony Gelberg wrote: > On Wed, Jul 30, 2003 at 02:20:47AM +0100, Richard Lyons wrote: [...detailed install instructions cut...] > > In para. 1. there is no directory like > > /usr/src/linux/pcmcia-cs-3.0.9/include/ - I cannot find any > > *pc

Re: more install problems

2003-07-30 Thread Richard Lyons
On Wednesday 30 July 2003 11:16, Antony Gelberg wrote: [...] > You need the kernel header files. Try apt-cache search > kernel-headers and grab the one that goes with your kernel. It may sound stupid, but I have no idea which kernel Debian has installed. "bf24" tells me it is 2.4.x, but I don'

Re: more install problems

2003-07-30 Thread Richard Lyons
On Wednesday 30 July 2003 12:14, Richard Lyons wrote: > On Wednesday 30 July 2003 11:16, Antony Gelberg wrote: > [...] > > > You need the kernel header files. Try apt-cache search > > kernel-headers and grab the one that goes with your kernel. > > It may sound stupi

Re: more install problems

2003-07-30 Thread Richard Lyons
On Wednesday 30 July 2003 11:16, Antony Gelberg wrote: > > [...] > > > > > > In para. 1. there is no directory like > > > > /usr/src/linux/pcmcia-cs-3.0.9/include/ - I cannot find any > > > > *pcmcia*/include/. What should I do here? [...] > > So I'm guessing I need first to install a further pac

Re: more install problems

2003-07-30 Thread Richard Lyons
On Wednesday 30 July 2003 14:18, Antony Gelberg wrote: [...] > Use script. man script for details. Basically it's like a wrapper > that records everything on your terminal between typing script and > doing a Ctrl-d. > > But, as was pointed out earlier, you _could_ try modprobe 8139too. 8139too e

Re: (more progress) Network card not detected or listed in installation

2003-07-30 Thread Richard Lyons
On Wednesday 30 July 2003 14:41, ThinKer wrote: > Just for fun (and because I am frustrated and looking for other > options at this point), I downloaded and installed the Mandrake 9.1 > network.img boot disk and booted my machine with it. [...] FWIW, I have a parallel problem (in another thread he

Re: more install problems

2003-07-30 Thread Richard Lyons
On Wednesday 30 July 2003 15:18, Andrew McGuinness wrote: [...] > My mistake, 8139too is built into bf2.4, not a module, so if it > worked, it would have picked up the card at boot time (or would it, > with the card being pcmcia, have needed some pcmcia-cs to run > first?). Oh, thanks andrew. Tha

Re: more install problems

2003-07-30 Thread Richard Lyons
On Wednesday 30 July 2003 15:38, Sridhar Srinivasan wrote: [...] > you can convert an ext2 partition to an ext3 partition using a > single command. These links from google provide more information. That easy, eh? Looks as though I am some kind of masochist, doing everything the hard way... > So

Re: more install problems

2003-07-30 Thread Richard Lyons
On Wednesday 30 July 2003 16:08, Antony Gelberg wrote: [...] > No, you've got the wrong end of the stick. 8139too is probably > _not_ right for your card. Hence you do need to compile the > driver. Rats! I have now tried the 2.2 standard install, and you are right - Andrew is right: the 813

Re: more install problems

2003-07-30 Thread Richard Lyons
On Wednesday 30 July 2003 17:43, Antony Gelberg wrote: [...] > > Why can't you compile the driver? Now you have the kernel headers, > it shouldn't be too difficult. I thought you stopped trying when > you thought that 8139too might work. > > If you decide to try, it might help to post actual erro

Re: more install problems

2003-07-30 Thread Richard Lyons
On Wednesday 30 July 2003 17:47, Greg Folkert wrote: [...] > > http://twiki.iwethey.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/DebianChrootInstall [...] > I have used that procedure MANY times... > > Maybe even just use knoppix as the booting OS. > > I'll tell you I should edit that page to show how to do it with >

Re: more install problems

2003-07-30 Thread Richard Lyons
On Wednesday 30 July 2003 19:54, Andrew McGuinness wrote: > [...] > The cause of the errors was that linux/version.h was being included > from a 2.2 kernel, but linux/netdevice.h was being include from a > 2.4 kernel. Thanks Andrew. I'm impressed. > > You said you installed kernel-headers-2.4.1

Re: more install problems

2003-07-31 Thread Richard Lyons
On Wednesday 30 July 2003 19:54, Andrew McGuinness wrote: [...] > The cause of the errors was that linux/version.h was being included > from a 2.2 kernel, but linux/netdevice.h was being include from a > 2.4 kernel. Thanks Andrew. We _may_ be getting somewhere. I have two version.h files: /us

pointing device on thinkpad

2003-07-31 Thread Richard Lyons
Woody bf2.4 on Thinkpad570. I have "mouse" (that red nipple in the middle of the keyboard) working normally in X, but nothing when in text mode. I can't see anything obviously relevant on google. Can anyone point me in the right direction? I am particularly keen to have middle button cut-an

Re: pointing device on thinkpad

2003-07-31 Thread Richard Lyons
On Thursday 31 July 2003 11:30, Tom Badran wrote: [...] > you need gpm running to get a mouse on the console. (apt-get > install gpm) > > And you will then want to reconfigure x to read from the gpm device > rather than directly from the mouse Aah. You don't happen to know exactly how that config

Re: pointing device on thinkpad

2003-07-31 Thread Richard Lyons
On Thursday 31 July 2003 12:25, Tom Badran wrote: > On Thursday 31 Jul 2003 12:23, Richard Lyons wrote: > > On Thursday 31 July 2003 11:30, Tom Badran wrote: > > [...] > > > > > you need gpm running to get a mouse on the console. (apt-get > > > install gpm

Re: pointing device on thinkpad

2003-07-31 Thread Richard Lyons
On Thursday 31 July 2003 14:22, Antony Gelberg wrote: > > > On Thursday 31 Jul 2003 12:23, Richard Lyons wrote: > > > > Thanks for trying to help. Just for the record, that did not > > work. The thinkpad pointing device works fine in X set up as > > psaux+PS/2.

Re: OT: Advice on Linux Web Hosting

2003-07-31 Thread Richard Lyons
On Thursday 31 July 2003 15:31, Michael Kahle wrote: > I am wondering if anyone has any advice on a good linux web hosting > provider. [...] I'm sure this is the wrong place. Still, I strongly recommend lazylizard.net. Been with them for years... They are always helpful. Tell Jonathan I se

Re: more install problems

2003-08-01 Thread Richard Lyons
On Friday 01 August 2003 06:45, Andrew McGuinness wrote: [...residue of previous snipped...] > > include/pcmcia/version.h isn't a problem. > > The errors you quoted from you compile are in code that shouldn't > be compiled unless LINUX_VERSION_CODE indicates a 2.2 kernel, at > least in the rtl8139.

Re: Look at these update from M$ Corporation.

2003-08-01 Thread Richard Lyons
On Friday 01 August 2003 18:55, David Fokkema wrote: > On Fri, Aug 01, 2003 at 07:48:36AM -0500, John Hasler wrote: [...] > > And I can guarantee you that I will never respond to > > "challenges". > > Why? > > If you send mail to a list and you get a challenge, sure, ignore > it. If a user of the m

Re: more install problems

2003-08-02 Thread Richard Lyons
Good morning, Andrew. On Saturday 02 August 2003 08:50, Andrew McGuinness wrote: > Richard Lyons wrote: [...] > > [the driver] is the version distributed by the card maker... > > with the card. Looks out of date. No changelog on the disk. > > Is the card actually a pcmcia

Re: more install problems

2003-08-02 Thread Richard Lyons
On Saturday 02 August 2003 08:50, Andrew McGuinness wrote: [...] > Unfortunately that shows that it is basically the same driver > (8139too) as is built into the bf2.4 kernel already. Okay, I've just booted the Morphix disk again, to check I wasn't mistaken. It works fine. Accesses network flaw

Re: more install problems

2003-08-02 Thread Richard Lyons
On Saturday 02 August 2003 11:19, Andrew McGuinness wrote: [...] > > I really think the 8139too driver in 2.4.18 ought to be able to > work this. > > The problem must be either a general PCMIA issue, or a problem with > the 8139too driver being compiled-in instead of being a module. > > I just saw

Re: more install problems

2003-08-02 Thread Richard Lyons
On Saturday 02 August 2003 12:53, Andrew McGuinness wrote: > Can I check, do you have the package > kernel-pcmcia-modules-2.4.18-686? err.. no. > > try > # modprobe pcmcia_core > # modprobe yenta_socket they find nothing > The 8139too driver should be able to work, since it did on > Mandrake,

Re: Look at these update from M$ Corporation.

2003-08-02 Thread Richard Lyons
On Saturday 02 August 2003 16:20, David Fokkema wrote: > On Fri, Aug 01, 2003 at 03:52:36PM -0500, Michael D. Schleif wrote: > > How dare you ***ASSUME*** that I am spamming you! Who are you > > that I ought to feel compelled to jump through your hoops, simply > > to say -- in an email -- hello ?!

Re: Look at these update from M$ Corporation.

2003-08-02 Thread Richard Lyons
On Saturday 02 August 2003 21:23, ScruLoose wrote: [...] > > (anyone knows of a trick to automatically whitelist all > > correspondents on debian-user? ;-) Yes: those nice spammers have just the tools you want... -- richard -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "uns

Re: Look at these update from M$ Corporation.

2003-08-02 Thread Richard Lyons
On Saturday 02 August 2003 21:34, David Fokkema wrote: > On Sat, Aug 02, 2003 at 09:36:57PM +0100, Richard Lyons wrote: > > On Saturday 02 August 2003 21:23, ScruLoose wrote: > > [...] > > > > > > (anyone knows of a trick to automatically whitelist all >

Re: Bind9 on Woody - "Bad dotted quad"

2003-08-03 Thread Richard Lyons
On Saturday 02 August 2003 23:39, John M. Purser wrote: > I've installed the bind9 package and tried to configure it to work > with my little internal network. When I start it up I get an error > message telling me "bad dotted quad" saying it's from the zone > configuration file for my network whi

kernel-image-2.4.18-686

2003-08-03 Thread Richard Lyons
It seems, after _huge_ help from Andrew McGuinness and others, that I am going to have to change from the bf2.4 flavour to kernel-image-2.4.18-686. Now, I am scared of messing with kernels anyway, and new to apt as well. I don't see in the apt HOWTO exactly how to "upgrade" a kernel. (I've

Re: kernel-image-2.4.18-686

2003-08-03 Thread Richard Lyons
On Sunday 03 August 2003 20:09, Andreas Janssen wrote: [...] > apt-get install kernel-image-2.4.18-686 [...] > If you use lilo, it will already have a section "LinuxOLD" > additionally to "Linux", so simply rerunning lilo after installing [...] Well, that was easy. Don't know what to say: I e

Re: more install problems

2003-08-03 Thread Richard Lyons
On Saturday 02 August 2003 11:19, Andrew McGuinness wrote: [...] > I really think the 8139too driver in 2.4.18 ought to be able to > work this. > > The problem must be either a general PCMIA issue, or a problem with > the 8139too driver being compiled-in instead of being a module. [...] I have give

Re: more install problems

2003-08-04 Thread Richard Lyons
On Monday 04 August 2003 06:34, Andrew McGuinness wrote: [...] > Looking at the cardctl output from your card, I think the 8139too > module provided with 2.4.18-686 ought to work. Remember that your > mandrake install worked without needing to compile a separate > driver. Yes, but it doesn't seem

Re: more install problems

2003-08-04 Thread Richard Lyons
Hello again. I have found the configurator that I needed, in theory. It is modconf. But I cannot install i82368, the errors include 'No such device' and 'depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/.../8139too.o' So the compilation was not successful apparently. Perhaps I should reiniti

cups - again

2004-05-15 Thread richard lyons
There must be a better way! Further to recent threads on problem of stopping bad printout: problem: printer prints many pages of postscript code. Job won't stop - gives an error something about permission-client. Same problem can occur when, for example, printing a 22-page fax and running o

Re: bold and normal fonts appear reversed in openoffice

2004-05-15 Thread richard lyons
On Friday 14 May 2004 12:18, H. S. wrote: [...]> > Since I posted this, I have confirmed from another person who is > experiencing this very same problem, on Sid. I haven't received any > replies to the post above though. Is nobody else experiencing this > problem (I am surprised), or is nobody usi

Re: bold and normal fonts appear reversed in openoffice

2004-05-15 Thread richard lyons
On Saturday 15 May 2004 07:05, Colin Watson wrote: > On Sat, May 15, 2004 at 06:31:18AM -0400, richard lyons wrote: > > BTW, why "grep '^ii.*'". WHat does the ".*" usefully add? > > Nothing. > > > and the single quotes? I expected, and

Re: Keyboard and locale problems

2004-05-15 Thread richard lyons
On Saturday 15 May 2004 11:31, David W.E. Roberts wrote: > Hi, > > I have just done a hard disc install of Knoppix 3.3 which gives me Debian > 2.4.24-xfs. [...] > Second problem - I am stuck with a US keyboard layout and a UK keyboard. > > I am trying to change the default 'locale' settings in /etc

Re: sound volume issue

2004-05-16 Thread richard lyons
On Monday 17 May 2004 02:02, Karsten M. Self wrote: > su aptitude install aumix I think Karsten meant sudo aptitude install aumix or su aptitude install aumix In case it's not obvious -- richard -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble?

addressbook recommendations?

2004-05-17 Thread richard lyons
Does anyone here have any recommenations for an addressbook? I'd like to replace kaddressbook (now that I'm not running kde). Something generic x-windows would be fine - or perhaps better a console-based one. If the data are in a portable format, so much the better. I find kaddressbook is c

Re: sound volume issue

2004-05-17 Thread richard lyons
On Monday 17 May 2004 03:54, Karsten M. Self wrote: > on Mon, May 17, 2004 at 02:54:06AM -0400, richard lyons ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > On Monday 17 May 2004 02:02, Karsten M. Self wrote: > > > su aptitude install aumix > > > > I think Karsten meant > >

Re: addressbook recommendations?

2004-05-17 Thread richard lyons
On Monday 17 May 2004 09:48, Joachim Fahnenmueller wrote: > Hi Richard > > On Mon, May 17, 2004 at 03:20:47AM -0400, richard lyons wrote: > > Does anyone here have any recommenations for an addressbook? I'd like to > > replace kaddressbook (now that I'm not running

Re: Keyboard and locale problems

2004-05-17 Thread richard lyons
On Monday 17 May 2004 11:44, Bob Proulx wrote: > David W.E. Roberts wrote: > > Bob, > > > > thanks for all the useful info. > > > > I had been led to beleive that if you did a HD install of Knoppix then > > you had a Debian installation which could then be updated to the latest > > version by using

Re: php not sending mail - was: Re: usb not ok - toshiba a30

2004-05-18 Thread richard lyons
On Monday 17 May 2004 20:20, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Im running debian stable and for some strange reason the mail() > function in php fails every time its called; Exim is running > perfectly and I can send mails from perl, but for the life of me I > cant get php mail() to work. > > Could this b

Re: html mails in mutt

2004-05-18 Thread richard lyons
On Monday 17 May 2004 20:16, Victor Munoz wrote: > Hello. I'm reading mails in both a woody and a sid machine with > mutt, and it behaves differently with html mails. Simplest solution: send all html direct to spam can. Catches 90% of my spam, and that is a lot of spam. -- richard -- To UNS

Re: Is there any software can encrypt binary file in sid?

2004-05-18 Thread richard lyons
On Tuesday 18 May 2004 03:30, Wasily wrote: > I means without some "device" this binary can not work,device means > a hardware-dog-like software.Hope this description be clear. "hardware-dog-like" hmm, I love thise liguistic problems. Something on a leash perhaps, like a dongle? -- richard -

Re: font path issue

2004-05-18 Thread richard lyons
On Tuesday 18 May 2004 05:15, Johan Renström wrote: > Hi! > > Since my two last posts were a bit to boring to be read I thought > I'd do a last desperate try from another pint of view. I thought it was quite interesting - and was waiting to hear the answers. I had a chancce to play with an adapte

Re: ppp setup problem

2004-05-18 Thread richard lyons
On Tuesday 18 May 2004 05:25, Ogya Chief wrote: > Dear All: > > Whilst trying to set up ppp, I ended up with a system that does not > connect to the net. Whatever option I use to connect, I get a > message that says: > > /usr/sbin/pppd: unknown host: (none) > > Has anybody ever come across th

Re: Cleaning Up

2004-05-18 Thread richard lyons
On Tuesday 18 May 2004 14:33, Edwards, Thomas wrote: > I am moving onto a new job and will be subscribing to this list > after I move next week. However in the meantime I am trying to > unsubscribe from this list for my current employer. I have > attempted to remove myself from the automated > in

Re: Cleaning Up

2004-05-19 Thread richard lyons
On Tuesday 18 May 2004 20:17, Edwards, Thomas wrote: > Nope, still getting the mail. Well, I know nothing of the technicalities, just quoting my experience. Still, it sounds as though you should follow up. You did get the second confirmation that the cancellation had been actioned? I recolle

Re: [OT] Yahoo's Antispam proposal

2004-05-20 Thread richard lyons
On Wednesday 19 May 2004 17:05, Bojan Baros wrote: > Link: http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys > > So, what's everyone take on this? > Another software patent. Any really good idea that is to become the new standard _has_ to be released open source and copyleft. -- richard -- To UNSUBSCRIB

Re: Escputil --raw-device and CUPS

2004-05-21 Thread richard lyons
On Thursday 20 May 2004 03:08, Kristian Niemi wrote: > Nick Croft wrote: [...] > > $ escuptil -i -r /dev/lp0 is > > 'Cannot parse output from printer'. [...] > I wonder if it could be as easy as telling escputil that you have a > new model of epson printer (`new' means newer than Stylus Color 740

Re: USB card readers that work?

2004-05-21 Thread richard lyons
On Wednesday 19 May 2004 15:52, Walter Tautz wrote: > I would imagine almost anything would work but I'd like > a list of models people have used with debian and which > they may have also used with their digital cameras. My intent [...] As far as I can see, anything does work. I have an Olympus C

Re: [OT] Yahoo's Antispam proposal

2004-05-21 Thread richard lyons
On Friday 21 May 2004 03:38, Tim Connors wrote: [...] > So spammers will simply write their own pgp signatures. > > After all, PGP only tells you that the person who signed the > message was the one who wrote it. Unfortunately, PGP doesn't come > with an evil-bit. > > Reemember, anything the anti-s

OT - trivial programming language

2004-05-21 Thread richard lyons
I'm asking for a bit of advice here. I wish to convert a kaddressbook database to abook format saving as many fields as possible. I could do this by exporting to cvs, importing to gnumeric (or any spreadsheet), shuffling the columns around, re-exporting to cvs and importing back to abook.

Re: [OT] Yahoo's Antispam proposal

2004-05-21 Thread richard lyons
On Friday 21 May 2004 13:40, Mark Ferlatte wrote: > richard lyons said on Thu, May 20, 2004 at 05:59:23PM -0400: > > On Wednesday 19 May 2004 17:05, Bojan Baros wrote: > > > Link: http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys > > > > > > So, what's everyone take

Re: Size of default partition with d-i beta3

2004-05-21 Thread richard lyons
On Friday 21 May 2004 16:52, Brent Bailey wrote: > A couple of weeks ago I installed debian sarge with d-i beta3. I > kept with the default partition sizes given with the multi-user > set-up, which set up / with 135468 K on a 80G drive. Now / is > full, and every other partition is hardly used.

Re: OT - trivial programming language

2004-05-21 Thread richard lyons
On Friday 21 May 2004 18:56, Benedict Verheyen wrote: > richard lyons wrote: > > I'm asking for a bit of advice here. [...] > > learning one of the lighter languages that I keep seeing mention > > of. So the question is, which do you people recommend? [...] > > A

Re: Size of default partition with d-i beta3

2004-05-21 Thread richard lyons
On Friday 21 May 2004 18:22, Roberto Sanchez wrote: > Brent Bailey wrote: > > Man, I hope that I don't have to re-format the whole thing... > > Nope. Just use resize2fs to shrink /home and then use the free > space to create a new partition. Move your data around as > necessary. Yes, make a much

Re: [OT] Yahoo's Antispam proposal

2004-05-21 Thread richard lyons
On Friday 21 May 2004 20:23, Tom Allison wrote: > Adam Aube wrote: > > Tom Allison wrote: > >>Spam RBL's are being attacked on the legal front which puts black > >> lists in jepardy. The idea being that businesses have a legal > >> right to solicit their customers and a third party cannot block >

Re: [OT] Yahoo's Antispam proposal

2004-05-22 Thread richard lyons
On Friday 21 May 2004 22:50, s. keeling wrote: [...] > We don't have to have that problem. We have spamassassin and > procmail. Spam is only a problem for ISPs who have to receive it > or reject it, and Windows users who have few to no effective means > to protect themselves from it. Mine is tra

Re: [OT] Yahoo's Antispam proposal

2004-05-22 Thread richard lyons
On Friday 21 May 2004 21:54, James Buchanan wrote: > > If nothing changes email will soon be unusable. [...] > Someone needs to write a really good RFC for a new email "next > generation" service and make it impossibly hard for spammers, that > is simple and quick to implement. No 6-part RFCs with

Re: Escputil --raw-device and CUPS

2004-05-23 Thread richard lyons
On Sunday 23 May 2004 08:44, Nick Croft wrote: > * Jens Simmoleit ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > ... you might also check if this has something to do with the > > bios settings. AFAIK all modern printers (from 3-5 years back) > > use bidirectional settings to communicate. Maybe it's turned off? > >

Re: OT - trivial programming language

2004-05-23 Thread richard lyons
On Sunday 23 May 2004 12:35, Joachim Fahnenmueller wrote: > Hi Richard > > On Fri, May 21, 2004 at 02:55:35PM -0400, richard lyons wrote: > > I'm asking for a bit of advice here. > > > > I wish to convert a kaddressbook database to abook format saving > > as

Re: USB card readers that work?

2004-05-23 Thread richard lyons
On Sunday 23 May 2004 14:33, SJ Straith wrote: > richard lyons wrote: [...] > > "PC-line". I recollect it cost 7 GBP. I also use one > > of the same brand for SD cards. The only problem is > > the need to reboot when switching between types of media > > (

Re: OT - trivial programming language

2004-05-24 Thread richard lyons
On Monday 24 May 2004 06:00, Nick Croft wrote: > * richard lyons ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > H 0.00 > > > > On Sunday 23 May 2004 12:35, Joachim Fahnenmueller wrote: > > > Hi Richard > > > > > > On Fri, May 21, 2004 at 02:55:35PM -0400, rich

Re: Your website

2004-05-24 Thread richard lyons
On Monday 24 May 2004 04:53, Ken Clayton wrote: > > Here is the file. > Hi, > Sorry who are you and what file? Ignore it - it's more worm-spew, along with 'Re: Thank You', 'Forum Notify', 'Hidden Message', 'Incoming Message', the rather curious 'Protected Message' and the frank 'Re: Your Email

Re: OT: Writing numbers longhand

2004-05-26 Thread richard lyons
On Monday 24 May 2004 14:50, Daniel Barclay wrote: > richard lyons wrote: > > On Thursday 06 May 2004 14:43, Paul Johnson wrote: > >>...1,234,567.89 is "one million, two-hundred-thirty-four > >>thousand, five-hundred-sixty-seven and eighty-nine > >> one-

Re: Creating a custom debian distro.

2004-05-27 Thread richard lyons
On Tuesday 25 May 2004 17:27, Joan Tur wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Es Dimarts Maig 25 2004 20:10, en Dan Korostelev va escriure: > | Hello. > | > | I need to create a custom debian desktop installation CD for my > | friend. I need a debian-installer, X, gnome, etc p

persistent dpkg error - libxrandr2

2004-05-27 Thread richard lyons
Sarge - aptitude: For some weeks now, every time I install anything, I get dpkg: error processing \ /var/cache/apt/archives/libxrandr2_4.3.0.dfsg.1-1_i386.deb \ (--unpack): trying to overwrite '/usr/X11R6/lib/libxrandr.so.2.0', which \ is also in package xlibs dpkg-deb: subprocess paste ki

tweedlegnum and tweedlekdee in sid?

2004-05-27 Thread richard lyons
I (foolishly, with the benefit of hindsight {a useful new acronym WTBOH??} ) dist-upgraded to sid on one box yesterday. To my horror, I lost gnumeric (which I love, and have work in progress in). I tried to install it (via aptitude) - but found that doing so meant losing all of the kde applic

Re: tweedlegnum and tweedlekdee in sid?

2004-05-27 Thread richard lyons
On Thursday 27 May 2004 09:03, Clive Menzies wrote: > On (27/05/04 08:12), richard lyons wrote: [...] > > BTW, I have also lost cups completely as a result of this, so I > > need to find another way to set up network printing! > > Is it worth uninstalling cups and reinst

bash + compose keys oddity

2004-05-28 Thread richard lyons
Just out of interest, why does this happen? If I accidentally use compose keys for e-acute (right-alt-' e) in bash, a massive list of reserved words appears? I'll reproduce the end of it below (with line-breaks added): update-default-aspell update-default-ispell update-default-wordlist update

Re: Debian downgrade from unstable to testing

2004-05-28 Thread richard lyons
On Friday 28 May 2004 16:08, Niels L. Ellegaard wrote: > Joseph <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > I don't have this manual 5 apt_preferences installed. When I > > create the preferences file name, I get: E: Invalid record in > > preferences file... > > My guess is that you have to create the file /e

broken cups in sid

2004-05-29 Thread richard lyons
Anyone else had problems with this? I dist-upgraded from sarge to sid abt. three days ago, and lost (amongst others) cups. As far as I could understand, there was a conflict between two versions of libcupsys2. At first, I worried that I had either to remove gnumeric or most of kde apps. So

Re: broken cups in sid

2004-05-29 Thread richard lyons
On Saturday 29 May 2004 17:33, Micha Feigin wrote: > On Sat, May 29, 2004 at 03:01:42PM -0400, richard lyons wrote: > > I dist-upgraded from sarge to sid abt. three days ago, and lost > > (amongst others) cups. As far as I could understand, there was a > > conflict be

Re: broken cups in sid

2004-05-29 Thread richard lyons
On Saturday 29 May 2004 18:12, Tristan Mills wrote: > On Sat, May 29, 2004 at 03:01:42PM -0400, richard lyons wrote: [...] > > Does anyone else have problems with recent cupsys? Do these > > errors indicate anything particular I should check? [...] > > I just reinstalled uns

Re: Very OT (and probably politically incorrect) - trivial programming language

2004-05-30 Thread richard lyons
On Saturday 29 May 2004 23:44, Monique Y. Mudama wrote: > On 2004-05-29, Kent West penned: > > Micha Feigin wrote: > >>On Fri, May 28, 2004 at 08:46:22PM -0600, Monique Y. Mudama > >> wrote: > > > > Whoa! I just realized while reading this thread that Monique's > > name has changed. Me too. > > > >

Re: Very OT (and probably politically incorrect) - trivial programming language

2004-05-30 Thread richard lyons
On Sunday 30 May 2004 06:39, Steve Lamb wrote: > richard lyons wrote: > > a) You're missing out (imho); (b) You'd be a great mum, from > > what we see of you here. (c) Apologies - OT and NOMB. > > Ungh, be a little more patronizing please. Having a child is

Re: TMDA and other challenge-response systems considered harmful

2004-05-30 Thread richard lyons
On Saturday 29 May 2004 22:08, Adam Aube wrote: > Paul Johnson wrote: > > Now for anybody else considering challenge-response email > > systems, this is why they're considered harmful. > > How are they any more harmful than autoresponders or list > subscription confirmations (like those used by the

Re: broken cups in sid

2004-05-30 Thread richard lyons
On Saturday 29 May 2004 21:02, W Paul Mills wrote: > richard lyons wrote: > >> Once I solved this properly (making sure I still have > >> gnome-cups-manager) everything was fine. > > > > Micha, what do you mean by 'solved this properly'? I thought I &g

Re: broken cups in sid

2004-05-30 Thread richard lyons
On Saturday 29 May 2004 20:29, Micha Feigin wrote: > On Sat, May 29, 2004 at 06:43:00PM -0400, richard lyons wrote: > > On Saturday 29 May 2004 17:33, Micha Feigin wrote: > > > On Sat, May 29, 2004 at 03:01:42PM -0400, richard lyons wrote: > > > > I dist-upgraded fro

Re: Very OT (and probably politically incorrect) - trivial programming language

2004-05-31 Thread richard lyons
On Sunday 30 May 2004 23:15, Monique Y. Mudama wrote: [...] > Maybe I'm just in a forgiving mood today, but I read the original > statement as "Having kids is a great experience; the personality > you present is grade-A; and yes, I know it's none of my business." Monique, thanks for taking time

Re: OT - trivial programming language

2004-05-31 Thread richard lyons
On Monday 31 May 2004 09:57, Colin Watson wrote: > Civilized societies should outlaw absurdly-drawn-out coding style > arguments on public mailing lists, especially when I have to > attempt to read them over a tediously slow ssh connection from a > conference in a different hemisphere. Yes, but at

Re: non-intentional double mouseclicks

2004-05-31 Thread richard lyons
On Monday 31 May 2004 05:25, Ping Wing wrote: > Hi. > > I have omnibook xe3 laptop + sarge. > > When I click mouse [ I use only external logitech > optical USB, not tried with touchpad] , quite often > this one click is treated as two clicks, which result > that two applications are open, or that m

Re: TMDA and other challenge-response systems considered harmful

2004-06-01 Thread richard lyons
On Tuesday 01 June 2004 08:29, Tom Allison wrote: [...] > They are also a pain in the neck when you get a CR sent to a > mailing list. > > But most importantly, and this is from personal experience here, > they are not very useful. I played with a CR mechanism for a few > months on my own mail ser

Re: broken cups in sid

2004-06-01 Thread richard lyons
On Saturday 29 May 2004 20:29, Micha Feigin wrote: [...] > Here is a list of the cups related packages I have installed if it > helps (I am not sure all are needed but I didn't feel like trying > to figure which to throw out): > > i cupsomatic-ppd - linuxprinting.org printer > i

Re: broken cups in sid

2004-06-01 Thread richard lyons
On Tuesday 01 June 2004 14:39, Tristan Mills wrote: > On Tue, 2004-06-01 at 19:10, richard lyons wrote: [...]> > cupsys shouldn't be depending on libcupsys2. Its kdelibs4 (and > probably 3) which do. If you can live without KDE then getting rid > of it should sort this out

Re: Doc viewer

2004-06-01 Thread richard lyons
On Tuesday 01 June 2004 17:37, Bas Zoetekouw wrote: > Paul Scott wrote in linux.debian.user: > > > Maybe a silly question but nearly all the Debian docs in the > > > /usr/share/doc tree are in gz format. Is there a viewer that > > > will allow me to read them without having to decompress them > > >

Re: Doc viewer

2004-06-02 Thread richard lyons
On Tuesday 01 June 2004 19:43, s. keeling wrote: > Incoming from richard lyons: [...] > > ~/.bashrc and ~/.bash_profile are not read unless I 'source' them > > manually. I've never understood why. > > I always wondered that too, but the chickens are beginni

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