ld, ircii, lynx,
Netscape, a news reader, a mail client, etc. etc. etc. (Check out
everything in the mail, net, and news sections of the distribution.)
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See the HOWTO I mentioned above. Someone's already done this for you
;-)
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f you're thinking of
connecting modems as well as standard terminals.
> How can I configure Linux for this?
Check out the Serial HOWTO for more info on all of the above.
You can find that as /usr/doc/HOWTO/Serial-HOWTO.gz or on the Web at:
http://www.li.org/Resources/HOWTO/Serial-
s for Pine and Pico from non-free
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el-cheapo" used PC's, drop a
BB2016 into them, install Linux, and spend less money than the PS2's
If you ask me, the Boca boards are a good deal all around
But, if you want to buy Digiboard PS2's, I've got two "like new" one's
sitting right here that I&
ersions)
sed -e '
s-^M--g
t
s+$+^M+
t
' < infile > outfile
One caveat -- infile and outfile **can't** be the same.
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back and watch the
output for clues. (No output means a problem on the local box. No input
might mean a problem on the other box.) If the other box is Linux too,
install tcpdump there as well
Good luck!
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S"), or is it a kernel
> feature I need to explicitly turn on?
Have you tried asking the gurus on the gated mailing list?
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kernel: EXT2-fs warning (device 03:01):
ext2_free_blocks:
bit already cleared for block 83580
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uld be in the rc.* files, or etc/init.d, but grepping
for
> insmod and grepping -i for 3c turned up nothing.
Check /etc/modules and /etc/conf.modules.
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2.57gig drive. what kind of
> drive do you have and any other information would be useful to help you
out.
> Paul
>
>
> On Fri, 25 Apr 1997, Kevin Traas wrote:
>
> > This is a first for me
> >
> > This has just started showing up on the console and in
/
" number is how many packets were detected going "across" the
interface. The "packets dropped by kernel" indicates how many packets the
kernel dropped because it was unable to allocate processor time to analyze
the packet - this should be 0 unless you're on a really slow
which_hits
$no_true_x400
$no_x400at
$return_subject
$sendmail_command
$whoami
$whoami_owner
Have you configured where Majordomo is?
$whereami is baan-bbs.ca
Good: yup!
------- end of tests ---
1 bad thing was found.
Pl
ovide some type of
authentication and logging product for you.
Get Linux to do it all for you for free!
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I haven't received any responses on this since I posted it a few days ago,
so thought I'd try again.
If you've got MajorDomo running, I'd like to "talk" further with you.
Please help if you can.
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Kevin Traas Baan Business Systems
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ial"
world - doesn't feel the same way I still spend much more
time administrating Win95/WinNT every day than I do Linux :-(
Anyway, let's get back to discussing a real OS, eh?
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[EMA
nts have netmasks of 255.255.255.0. Could this be a problem
with the client, or is it the server?
Anyone else doing this?
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et the "create mode = xxx" for the share. Refer to the docs.
>4) I can't for the life of me figure out what the startup files are defined
as
> or where they are defined (say, .login and .startup.x11 from my old dec
> days)
System startup is in /etc/init.d
User startup
an manually configuring the routing tables on the NT box, I'd like
to configure things automatically - thus my message about setting
netmasks
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ime the NT box dials in? (I could set
up a script running in the background with a sleep 60 or so that looks to
see who's logged in and configures the routing table based on that, but this
would be quite a "hack" - there's got to be a better way)
Thanks for your he
king for quite a number of dialin lines, a modem
server such as the Livingston PortMaster III might be more what you're
looking for. It's a much better option than a whole "swack" of modems
sitting on a shelf. See http://www.livingston.com for more info.)
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Kevin T
etwork behind it
without any problems
So, at first, I thought it might be just a
routing problem - timout's somewhere - but that doesn't explain why systems
behind the router are still accessible normally.
Any ideas on what might be happening here?
TIA for any suggestions,
plain why systems behind the router are still
accessible normally.
Any ideas on what might be happening here?
TIA for any suggestions,
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Can anyone tell me what the following permission means?
>drwx-T 2 bong admin1024 Oct 29 21:27 private
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-Original Message-
From: David Wright <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Kevin Traas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thursday, October 30, 1997 5:59 PM
Subject: Re: Fw: Fuck the script... I want him gone now....
>On Thu, 30 Oct 1997, Kevin Traas wrote:
>
>> Can anyone tell
;s
features to include basic firewalling capabilities. So, I'd like to begin
some discussion in this list on the merits of using Debian as a firewall -
something beyond just IP Masquerading, etc.
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Kevin Traas
-Original Message-
From: john <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Greg Whalin
SL
Any help you can provide would be much appreciated.
(BTW, I went to various Apache web sites and haven't been able to find any
of this information or mailing lists pertaining to the Apache Web Server.
Do you know of any?)
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Sy
Run `/usr/sbin/apache -l | more` to find out which modules are loaded and
active.
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Kevin Traas
-Original Message-
From: R Chris Ross <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Date: Friday, October 31, 1997 2:51 PM
Subject: Apache mod_actions enabled by default?
ou'll get it the next time. (Useful
for debugging...)
I'm using fetchmail on a number of systems. If you have any further
questions about config files, etc, just let me know - I'll do what I can to
help.
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Systems Anal
Will Samba work across a router? The Internet?
i.e. I'm about 8000KM away from the Linux system I'd like to connect to via
SMB.
Am I dreaming? Is there a way to do this? If so, any pointers? The HOWTO
didn't deal with this issue at all.
later,
Kevin Traas
Can anyone make any recommendations for K56Flex modems (preferably external)
that work well under Linux?
I'm looking to possibly configure two using EQL to get roughly 100Kbps
performance from my ISP.
TIA,
Kevin TraasBaan Business Systems
Systems AnalystLa
>> Can anyone make any recommendations for K56Flex modems (preferably
>> external) that work well under Linux?
>
>This isn't a Linux issue. Any modem, whether K56Flex or x2 will work under
>Linux.
Sorry, but I "beg to differ"
"Winmodem" products are really a PITA in Linux - unless something'
Did you try sticking an "ifconfig" in at the end of /etc/init.d/network to
see if the interface is up at that particular moment?
Maybe something else is shutting it down somewhere else ???
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Kevin
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: debian-user@li
I just heard on BugTraq that there's now a bugfix available for Linux
Anyone heard of it or where it might be obtained?
For those that are wondering what I'm talking about
http://support.intel.com/support/processors/pentium/ppiie/index.htm
Regards,
Kevin Traas
I've got a friend that I'm trying to support over the phone He's
getting the above error when trying to run "pon". I've gone through all the
obvious things, but have had no success.
Does anyone have any ideas?
- Running lsmod showed ppp loaded.
- Rebuilding kernel with static ppp support d
--
#!/bin/sh
/path/to/ircd
/path/to/eggdrop
---snip here
Just a few additional comments:
- make sure the "#!/bin/sh" is the *first* line in the file.
- adjust the path entries as required... obviously.
- "chmod 755 /etc/rc.boot/irc-startup" to make it executable
G
his driver as a module?
What error messages (if any) are displayed when you run "dmesg"?
If you have all configs setup properly, then it might be an IRQ or I/O
conflict, but you haven't provided enough info... yet.
Give us what dmesg outputs and we'll go from there.
Later,
, and use "ae" as your
editor.)
>2) I'm using Fvwm2 and FvwmButtons...and I must be doing somehting
Sorry, can't answer this one... I've never used X. ***Long live the Shell
Prompt***
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nd added percentages
Caldera 9 2%
Debian 245 42%
RedHat 223 38%
Slackware 93 16%
Other 9 2%
Total number of votes 579
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timeout, DialD drops the link (to save you money... ...). It's really
slick and many people use it.
As for an X config for PPP, I've never used it (I'm shell-prompt driven...),
but you're probably looking for XISP.
Both XISP and DialD are Debian packages
Good Luck!
Kevin Tr
>Basically, I'm considering rebuilding the kernel to add in some things
>I'm missing (sound) and removing some things that I don't need (SCSI
>support, for one).
Good call !
>I've read all the howtos and got all the files, so I'm pretty sure I
>have a good idea of how to do it (but I'm open to s
>> At http://www.slashdot.org/, there is a poll of favorite linux
>> distributions. I encourage you all to go vote for debian, which
>> is currently trailing redhat by about 50 votes.
>
>Has anyone advertized this on whatever Redhat (and the other
>distributions) have as user lists? While it mig
>> You might want to look into DialD (Dial-on-Demand). This package
>> automatically makes and breaks connections to the Internet as needed.
You
>> just start up NetScape, etc. and the modem dials... After an inactivity
>> timeout, DialD drops the link (to save you money... ...). It's
really
>>
You're asking this on a *Debian* Linux mailing list? Sorry, buddy, but
there aren't too many people here that are going to be able to help you
out I've never used RedHat.
You're going to want to check out http://www.redhat.com for RedHat support.
They've got mailing lists too - and you'll be
I'm sure you're thinking, "why not just try it?" ... well, I'm looking for
a quick/lazy answer
TIA,
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If I remember (off the top) correctly, lseek() is/was the limiting factor on
filesystem sizes... At one time, this was 32bit, so max addressable
filesystem size was 2GB.
Has this changed? i.e. what is the max ext2 filesystem size?
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y welcome (Acer ...).
Well, I've got a Tecra 510, but I haven't found an XServer other than VGA
that works with the video in this thing So, X isn't much of an
option
Unless anyone else can help - I'd be much appreciative! (Chipset is
CL65550.)
Regards,
Kevin Traas
picked the *best* OS to replace it with! Long live Linux!
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>http://www.aoy.com/Linux/Security/Linux-Security-FAQ/CFS-Doc.html
There's also: http://edu-gw.dia.unisa.it/tcfs/ The Transparent
CryptoGraphic File System
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Can anyone recommend an Ultra SCSI controller that works under Linux?
I'm looking to hang several of the new 18GB Barracuda/Cheetah Seagate drives
off of one...
I'm currently looking at the BusLogic Flashpoint BT-950.
Is anyone using this card? Any comments?
TIA,
Kevin Tra
I should also ask about the Mylex DAC960PD. Or, are there any other
Ultra-SCSI RAID controllers supported in Linux?
>Can anyone recommend an Ultra SCSI controller that works under Linux?
>
>I'm looking to hang several of the new 18GB Barracuda/Cheetah Seagate
drives
>off of one...
>
>I'm currentl
>Have you looked at the software RAID? Is it more flexible because you
>can run it with hard disks with different geometry.
!!! ??? I've never heard of this under Linux?
Can anyone provide more info?
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. However this does not
>help if someone will takeoff the hard-disk from your server.
Or, just short the jumper to clear the CMOS out. Then, just re-autodetect
everything and you're set to go.
Short of encrypting the filesystem itself, I have yet to find a way to
secure things under Linu
>> > I'm trying to compile land.c (as in the exploit) ...
>> Why you need to compile this program?
>BTW, linux is NOT vulnerable to this attack. Even version 1.2.13.
Kudos to Linux!!!
Makes me proud!
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>> > I'm trying to compile land.c (as in the exploit) ...
>> Why you need to compile this program?
>BTW, linux is NOT vulnerable to this attack. Even version 1.2.13.
Kudos to Linux!!!
Makes me proud to be a Linux user/supporter
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chipset do this or does the speed have to
be set manually in a config file somewhere?
If this chipset/driver can't do it, do you know of one that can?
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>Of course anyone can also just delete the whole partition and destory
>everything.. but usually isn't as useful.
When deciding to encrypt the filesystem, the above is the *very* least of
your worries.The whole point of encrypting it is to keep it's contents
"secret". Nuking the partition is
>Where is the original article??
Someone posted to a NewsGroup about 2 weeks ago. Not sure which one
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I haven't been able to reach http://ipmasq.home.ml.org today at all - and,
of course, the list of mirrors is on that site as well So much for fault
tolerance
Anyone know of an available mirror of this site?
Thanks,
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Another option for Linux is Squid:
http://squid.nlanr.net/Squid/FAQ/FAQ.html
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Kevin
>> Isn't there some kind of cache software, though? I don't know what
>> it's called, but it caches webpages locally, and won't querry the
>> remote server unless the page isn't in the cache? What is it
> Does anybody know of any reliable mirorrs? .
I use exclusively ftp.cdrom.com or sunsite.unc.edu.
Either of them always have very reasonable rates - and I'm on T1.
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external to ISP nameserver.
All's been working fine for months. They say nothing's
changed.
Any ideas?
TIA,
Kevin Traas
axionet.com)
Oh, and axionet.com is *not* their DN.
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>> If you've got a suggestion, I'd love to hear it.
>
>Okay, first suggestion is to turn off rich text or HTML email in your mail
>client. Email does NOT have pretty colors or centering and I usually just
>delete any message I see which looks like a webpage.
Yeah, apologies to everyone about tha
;mail mail." in
/etc/hosts. Now, no more log entries
Can anyone tell me why qpopper couldn't resolve the mail. name via DNS
and requires an entry in /etc/hosts? Design limitation?
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left out of it even though I started it..
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-Original Message-
From: Scott Ellis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Tommy Lakofski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: Kevin Traas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Debian
Date: Tuesday, December 02, 1997 10:04 PM
Subject:
docs covering this would be very welcome. Other than that, I can't
think of what my problem might be.
Why would chat have a problem communicating with my "modem" when minicom,
etc, doesn't?
Any ideas, suggestions, and/or pointers welcome!
TIA,
Kevin Traas
Systems Analyst
Baan Busi
; work-around that helps the problem in some/many cases.
Well, what's the init string "fix"? I'd like to know it too because I'm
experiencing the same problem with my USR Sportsters that I'm using for
remote dial-in - currently 6 of them
Thanks,
Kevin Tr
nt created.
> Thanks again for all your help!
No problem!
> This list is invaluable in setting up the system.
How true! I've found it to be the same!
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I'm just in the process of trying to put a Linux box onto the Fast Ethernet
network here at work. My only choice for a NIC is a 3COM 3C905-TX.
Has anyone successfully configured this card under Debian Linux?
(Note, this is a 905, not a 509.)
Thanks,
Kevin Traas
Systems Analyst
Baan Bus
Oops!!! Never mind! I did a little RTFM'ing and found what I needed!
Thanks anyway,
Kevin Traas
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> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: 3COM 3C905-TX PCI NIC
> Date: July 3, 1997 10:42 AM
>
>
> I'm j
Media MII is has no indication, 8802.
Jul 4 10:25:33 inetgw kernel: eth0: Media selection timer finished, MII.
The only "funny" thing is that `ifconfig` reports eth0 as being "10Mbps
Ethernet"; however, it *is* operating at 100Mbps.
Anyway, that's my "success&qu
new driver you got fixes this.
I'm running 2.0.30. I didn't follow and of the "tricks" you mentioned. I
pulled the card out of the box/static bag, plugged it in, and went from
there. No DOS config was required
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gt;
I'd assumed the same. I guess ifconfig or something needs to add support
for 100Mbps. (I don't know, but I'd assume it supports various ArcNet,
TokenRing speeds, but not Ethernet, ATM, FDDI, etc. yet.) On that point, I
didn't know Linux supported FDDI (or ATM?)
La
n the module was compile
for
HwTools Version: 0.2-5
Debian Version: 1.3.0
Kernel Version: 2.0.30
Any ideas on what I can try? I've got some real problems on my 16450 UART
running PPP - many errors. I'd really like to try IRQTune to see if it
helps.
TIA for any help,
Kevin Traas
Syste
the modular 2.0.30 kennel, is the kernel in Debian 1.3 comparable to
this
> > kernel. If not could you please list the major differences.
Debian 1.3.x currently "installs" 2.0.29, which is very comparable to
2.0.30. However, you can easily "upgrade" to 2.0.30 at any time
gt; you install Debian Linux. (This can also be viewed online at:
Oops! I should clarify that this will only be installed on your local
system after installing the doc-linux package.
> http://www.li.org/Resources/HOWTO/mini/Linux+Win95
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affecting the system. No log messages, no X
startup, nothing However, I can startx from the prompt and everything
works fine Go figure.
If anyone has any ideas, I'd be glad to hear them. TIA.
Video - S3 Trio64
Debian - 1.3.1
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Kevin Traas
Systems Analyst
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At 01:54 AM 7/15/97 -0400, Paul Miller wrote:
>how do I change the logon message?
>
>-Paul
Pre-login is in /etc/issue and /etc/issue.net
Post-login is in /etc/motd
/etc/issue.net is sent to incoming telnet sessions.
/etc/issue is sent to console and tty (serial) connections.
Later,
Ke
alout. Now I want to dialin and do proxy ARP and
> all that good stuff. What do I need to read to accomplish this?
Look at mgetty. It'll auto-detect incoming terminal and/or PPP
connections.
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onfigured to the subnet that your dial-in clients are using.
Another possibility is that the default route isn't configured properly on
your Linux box. i.e. Can you access/ping hosts outside of your LAN from
your Linux box?
For more info, please provide the output from the following comma
I've run into the same thing. Using IP addresses vice-versa to the
suggestion in the options.ttyXX file works for me. The options.ttyXX
suggestion is wrong - I just never got around to finding out whether this
has been reported as a bug
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an GNU/Linux 1.2.x - 1.3.x and all are connected to the
Internet. All are acting as dial-on-demand "routers", mail servers, etc.
for roughly 200 users or so (I've never actually counted...).
Not bad for less than a year.... Oh, and I've only ever "registered" one
of th
et.
Now, fortunately, with your information, hopefully, I've found the answer
before I even began looking for it
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total
RX packets which is pretty high. I'm new to fast ethernet; however, I've
never experienced this many errors across 10BT or serial interfaces
Any comments?
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I even tried deinstalling and reinstalling the ftpd
packages, but that didn't help either.
Anyway, good luck.
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an attempt at dialing. Am I missing some thing?<<
Did you also modify /etc/ppp.options_out ?
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instead of "nobody"; however, I've used "nobody" and it&#
hout difficulty
Therefore, I've never investigated further as to what problems were present
in this newer version.
2.0.31 is supposed to be available within days. This is supposed to
resolve the 2.0.30 problems.
Later,
Kevin Traas Baan Business Systems
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of `route -n`
- output of `ifconfig`
- general idea of what you're trying to accomplish
Later,
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e DialD connect script.
(/etc/diald/connect).
It is configured to use multiple numbers. It will "roll-over" to another
number if the current one fails for any reason. I've used this feature and
it works well.
It would probably be pretty easy to adapt the code from this scr
Everything's great. Except for one little thing.
I'd like to know how my ISP dumps all e-mail destined for one domain into
one e-mail account. Is this just an aliasing issue? A DNS issue? An MTA
issue?
Thanks for any pointers or help you can provide.
Later,
Kevin Traas
ving this issue?
TIA for any help,
Kevin Traas Baan Business Systems
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NEED TO unlink
/mirror/debian/hamm/contrib/binary-all/x11/metrox_3.1.2-1.deb
NEED TO unlink
/mirror/debian/hamm/contrib/b
were valid unless stored in MSDOS format. i.e. DialD.DEB, etc.
This was all quite frustrating as I had a full mirror of all the binaries
which I wanted to write to CD; however, it wasn't possible. (I couldn't use
this CDR under Linux, so that wasn't an option.)
later,
Kevin Traas
binary-i386 directory tree
I decided against my two available options:
- download the whole msdos-i386 directory tree (via 33.6Kbps)
- rename all the files in binary-i386 to their msdos equivalents
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stem running the POP client.
Things seem to be working okay; however, the message is a little
disconcerting.
Any ideas?
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Oops! Forgot to include another message I'm getting as well:
Jul 29 15:31:11 inetgw in.qpopper[20205]: (v2.2) Unable to get canonical
name of client, err = 0
Any ideas what this means?
TIA,
Kevin Traas Baan Business Systems
Systems Analyst Langley, BC, Canada
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these cables for you and send them to you. If
you're interested, e-mail me and I'll let you know pricing, etc. I found
building my own was cheaper than the adapter that is mentioned in the
Howto - which I couldn't find a source for anyway.
Well, like I said, Good Luck
Later,
ose responses were (and continue to be) and I
want to continue to contribute whatever time I can to provide some of that
value to someone else.
Later,
Kevin Traas Baan Business Systems
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>> It's getting kind of loud here. I've been thinking of splitting the
>> debian-user list into several lists:
>>
>> I am afraid that I am no longer capable of reading every article in
>> the debian lists. I guess it's the price of success.
>
>I've resisted this for a while, but the time may have
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