on non-running OS find all installed pkgs

2017-07-31 Thread Harry Putnam
The hosts in this query are both on vbox vms. One not running but with OS disk mounted on a different host. How can I get a list of all debian pkgs installed on the OS that is not running? That is, when I have the debian OS disk mounted on a different HOST. Is there something in var (or anywhere

Re: vbox cannot find headers, although they are installed

2018-01-08 Thread Harry Putnam
Eike Lantzsch writes: Harry wrote: >> What am I missing? > Eike Replied: > Did you by any chance install a kernel higher than 4.14.0-2 to check it out, > then went back to 4.14.0-2 or installed 4.14.0 and then went back to 4.9.0? > In that case VBox is most probably still looking for the headers

Re: vbox cannot find headers, although they are installed

2018-01-08 Thread Harry Putnam
Eike Lantzsch writes: > On Saturday, January 6, 2018 8:36:38 PM -03 Harry Putnam wrote: >> Having a problem getting the vbox guest additions on a `testing' >> install to allow for larger monitor resolution. >> >> When I attempt to install the additions the

Following full-upgrade panel icons cannot display the image files

2018-01-22 Thread Harry Putnam
Setup: Running stretch as guest vm on Openindiana (a solaris 11 off shoot) inside Virtualbox Using lxde desktop, but set to boot into console mode, and I use startx to get to X with I want it. Following a startx, I see the buttons on bottom panel just show a white rectangle with red X in it. I s

testing running lxde cannot diplay desktop icon images

2018-01-27 Thread Harry Putnam
Setup Testing running as guest in vbox vm on a Solaris (openindiana) host. This OS has been in operation since before the release of stretch ... It sees little use and has exibited very few problems. I run the lxde desktop. The problem I am seeing is that the desktop starts but only diplays a sm

testing running lxde cannot diplay desktop icon images

2018-01-27 Thread Harry Putnam
Setup Testing running as guest in vbox vm on a Solaris (openindiana) host. This OS has been in operation since before the release of stretch ... It sees little use and has exibited very few problems. I run the lxde desktop. The problem I am seeing is that the desktop starts but only diplays a sm

preferences > openbox configuration manager no start

2018-01-27 Thread Harry Putnam
setup: OS = Debian Testing (running as guest in a Vbox vm on an openindiana (solaris-11 offshoot [illumos powered])) Virtualbox-5.6.2 desktop=lxde I've reported a problem about the desktop icons unable to display their *.png images in another thread... the problem described below is probably part

[OT] debian (or debian like) terminal program for android

2018-02-10 Thread Harry Putnam
aside: , | Having such a time trying to google this. It seems google has been | dumbed down to the point where +word or "these words" no longer force | those things to be in the hits. ` Can anyone tell me if there is a serious terminal program for android phones? I mean a full OS and th

What is available for setting services to run levels

2018-02-13 Thread Harry Putnam
What tools do we have for setting services to run levels

How to arrange for booting to console

2016-09-11 Thread Harry Putnam
How can I arrange to boot to console mode rather than X. With the ability to startx when I feel like it. I'm not familiar with grub2 and the debian vm I'm using on a solaris host appears to be using grub2. Can anyone stear me to the files I'd need to edit?

Re: How to arrange for booting to console

2016-09-11 Thread Harry Putnam
The Wanderer writes: > On 2016-09-11 at 17:04, Harry Putnam wrote: > >> How can I arrange to boot to console mode rather than X. With the >> ability to startx when I feel like it. >> [...] > The way I usually do it is to uninstall gdm, kdm, xdm, et cetera; tho

exim4 some config error causing error how to pinpoint

2016-09-12 Thread Harry Putnam
I've attempted to setup exim4 on a second debian OS, using the working configuration from the older one. Before getting too detailed I think I see something in output of my debug technique that indicated somewhere my host is telling exim the wrong host name. (dv is host with working config ) I u

Re: exim4 some config error causing error how to pinpoint

2016-09-14 Thread Harry Putnam
Liam O'Toole writes: > dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config Thanks, that was pretty painless. And thanks for the url to the documentation section. I've now progressed on to where I was aiming for. I wanted to have one debian box as main mail client. Yet be able to send mail from a couple of others.

Re: exim4 some config error causing error how to pinpoint

2016-09-15 Thread Harry Putnam
Liam O'Toole writes: >> Mail never appears at HOST1 /var/spool/mail/user2 >> >> > > Does user2 appear in the file /etc/aliases on HOST1? Is there a No > /home/user2/.forward file on that host? Either of those would cause mail No > Is there anything suspicious in the file /var/log/exim4/mainlog

Re: exim4 some config error causing error how to pinpoint

2016-10-01 Thread Harry Putnam
Liam O'Toole writes: [...] >> When I try to send a message from USER@HOST2 to USER@HOST1, instead of >> just delivering to USER@HOST1 it appears to be sending that message on >> to the gmail smtp server. >> >> The local lan is not a real FQDN so not suprising that the gmail >> server cannot deli

kernel header for 4.6.0-1-686

2016-10-25 Thread Harry Putnam
Where can I get the kernel headers for my kernel 4.6.0-1-686? apt-get does not show that version. Googling for awhile here and not finding it either Trying to install vbox guest additions and it needs those headers.

Re: kernel header for 4.6.0-1-686

2016-10-25 Thread Harry Putnam
Juanjo Benages writes: > El 25/10/16 a las 19:48, Harry Putnam escribió: >> Where can I get the kernel headers for my kernel 4.6.0-1-686? >> >> apt-get does not show that version. >> >> Googling for awhile here and not finding it either >> >> Trying

Re: kernel header for 4.6.0-1-686

2016-10-26 Thread Harry Putnam
Joe Pfeiffer writes: > Harry Putnam writes: > >> Juanjo Benages writes: >> >>> El 25/10/16 a las 19:48, Harry Putnam escribió: >>>> Where can I get the kernel headers for my kernel 4.6.0-1-686? >>>> >>>> apt-get does not show that

Re: kernel header for 4.6.0-1-686

2016-10-30 Thread Harry Putnam
Joe Pfeiffer writes: > Harry Putnam writes: > >> Joe Pfeiffer writes: >>> >>> Any particular reason you need that particular version? Could you >>> upgrade your virtualbox VM to a different kernel and use the headers >>> for that kernel (or

autofs config

2017-01-08 Thread Harry Putnam
, | NOTE: A similar post was accidently posted to gentoo list but was | intended to be posted here ` Setup: Running Debian jessie-stable I've never used autofs and am trying to get it setup. Following the debian wiki and an Ubuntu howto. Also this site: http://www.linuxtechi.com/

Re: autofs config

2017-01-09 Thread Harry Putnam
Reco writes: [...] > And it gone haywire from here. Hehe... thats a good description... > Autofs has a concept of master map ( auto.master(5) ) which can contain > lines referring to either direct or indirect maps ( autofs(5) ). > > /etc/auto.master.d is intended for extending master map, and

Re: autofs config

2017-01-09 Thread Harry Putnam
Reco writes: [...] > Won't it be fun otherwise? > > The good thing is - autofs is working as intended. > The bad thing is - mount is failing. , | NOTE: I've rearranged your post to put the next question and answer at | the bottom of this reply ` [...] missing q and a >> One questio

Re: autofs config

2017-01-10 Thread Harry Putnam
Reco writes: > To workaround #828217 please comment out the line with '-host' in > /etc/auto.master. Just wanted to get back to you right away about this part. Still looking into the other things you mentioned. The `-hosts' line in auto.master has been commented out from the start. Must be sh

Re: autofs config

2017-01-10 Thread Harry Putnam
Reco writes: [...] Harry wrote: >> So maybe that has something to do with the problem... Reco replied: > Hardly. The way you're doing on Solaris it you provide NFS shares to > everyone and their dog in read-write mode with sec=sys by NFS versions > ranging from two to four. At least these are d

Re: autofs config

2017-01-10 Thread Harry Putnam
Reco writes: [...] >> ls /prj/d0 or ls /prj/dv both fail. However another share on that >> same setup on the solaris host `gv' and 2x comes up as expected. > > You lost me here. If 'd0' and 'dv' are share names, you should use > auto.net like this: This problem is solved with your previous pos

-dec-terminal fonts

2017-03-04 Thread Harry Putnam
I have these fonts as displayed by xlsfonts xlsfonts|grep dec [...] -dec-terminal-bold-r-normal--0-0-75-75-c-0-dec-dectech -dec-terminal-bold-r-normal--0-0-75-75-c-0-iso8859-1 [...] -dec-terminal-medium-r-normal--14-140-75-75-c-80-iso8859-1 -dec-terminal-medium-r-normal--14-140-75-75-c-80-iso88

Re: -dec-terminal fonts

2017-03-04 Thread Harry Putnam
Siard writes: [...] > So, tech14.pcf.gz etc. are the fonts you're looking for. Thanks for the leg work.. gives a good start. Except I think you may have meant to say: /usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi/fonts.dir:termB14.pcf.gz and /usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi/fonts.dir:term14.pcf.gz writes: [...]

Re: How to >>COMPLETELY<< remove an application?

2017-03-11 Thread Harry Putnam
Cindy-Sue Causey writes: > Do Synaptic, Aptitude, and possibly anything else of that family have > similarly close but still different flags/commands? I haven't seen this mentioned in the thread... but may have missed it. I've noticed that some times aptitue purge does not remove everything as

How to find pkg specific font belongs to

2015-09-14 Thread Harry Putnam
I want to find the exact package font: -dec-terminal-medium-r-normal--14-140-75-75-c-80-iso8859-1 belongs to. I did search `find /usr/share/fonts -iname '*dec*' /usr/share/fonts/X11/misc/deccurs.pcf.gz /usr/share/fonts/X11/misc/decsess.pcf.gz /usr/share/fonts/X11/encodings/dec-special

Long neglected OS ... updating

2015-12-02 Thread Harry Putnam
Resurrecting a neglected OS, need a little coaching about the output of `aptitude full-upgrade'. I want to know if this output is fairly typical or what one might expect after neglecting an OS a good while... but mostly if going ahead is likely to land my subpar skilled behind in hot water. I've

Re: [minor bitch] about the panel (taskbar) LXDE

2014-12-11 Thread Harry Putnam
Andrei POPESCU writes: > On Mi, 10 dec 14, 13:57:01, Harry Putnam wrote: >> Andrei POPESCU writes: >> >> > So far every application *except xterm* I have tried has the same icon >> > in the top left corner of its window as well as the taskbar. I tried GTK &g

Re: [minor bitch] about the panel (taskbar) LXDE

2014-12-12 Thread Harry Putnam
Jape Person writes: > On 12/11/2014 01:56 PM, Harry Putnam wrote: >> Andrei POPESCU writes: >> >>> On Mi, 10 dec 14, 13:57:01, Harry Putnam wrote: >>>> Andrei POPESCU writes: >>>> >>>>> So far every application *except xterm* I h

Re: [minor bitch] about the panel (taskbar) LXDE

2014-12-14 Thread Harry Putnam
Harry Putnam writes: > Some mnths ago (not sure how many) the icons (running program > indicators) that appear in the bottom (taskbar like ) panel changed > from showing icons of the running program such as the emacs icon, > xterm icon, vim icon etc. to just showing a generic i

is sshd really restarting?

2014-12-18 Thread Harry Putnam
Setup: very new install of gentoo When I restart ssh like so: sudo /etc/init.d/ssh restart I see very little output. Should it be more verbose? , |harry > sudo /etc/init.d/ssh restart | Restarting ssh (via systemctl): ssh.service ` Can I get more verbose output? -- To UNSUB

Re: is sshd really restarting?

2014-12-18 Thread Harry Putnam
berenger.mo...@neutralite.org writes: > Le 18.12.2014 18:13, Harry Putnam a écrit : >> Setup: very new install of gentoo > > Why not asking on a gentoo list, instead of a Debian one? Sorry that setup info is wrong... it is a debian (jessie) install where I get that brief outpu

Re: is sshd really restarting?

2014-12-18 Thread Harry Putnam
Harry Putnam writes: > Setup: very new install of gentoo TYPE ALERT: Setup: not so new install of debian (jessie) > > When I restart ssh like so: > >sudo /etc/init.d/ssh restart > > I see very little output. Should it be more verbose? > > , > |harry

puzzling aptitude full-upgrade outptu

2015-01-03 Thread Harry Putnam
I get this from 2 separate debian installs of jessie host1 aptitude full-upgrade The following partially installed packages will be configured: gnome-icon-theme sgml-base sgml-data No packages will be installed, upgraded, or removed. 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 n

Been out of it, when will there be a new `testing'

2015-01-08 Thread Harry Putnam
I've been dinking with gentoo and not paying attention here. I see no upgrades and we are in a freeze with jessie I guess. Can anyone hazard a guess when there will be a new `testing'? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? C

how to debug this fuse problem

2015-03-18 Thread Harry Putnam
Running `jessie' I've been using encfs, drawn from wheeze for months. But following a `full upgrade' I can no longer mount an encfs file system. The error message from mount attempt: , | fuse: device not found, try 'modprobe fuse' first | fuse failed. Common problems: | - fuse kernel modu

Re: how to debug this fuse problem

2015-03-18 Thread Harry Putnam
Eduard Bloch writes: [...] >> Attempting to modprobe fuse gets this error: >> >> , >> | root # modprobe fuse >> | modprobe: ERROR: could not insert 'fuse': Invalid argument > > Something is wrong with your modules installation. Run "dmesg" to see > what happened there. > Run "depmod -a" onc

Re: how to debug this fuse problem

2015-03-21 Thread Harry Putnam
Eduard Bloch writes: >> searching with `aptitudue search ckt7' (or ckt4) finds nothing at all. > > It's just an arbitrary version string. It can be (almost) anything, even > 1.2.3.myCuteVersion-10.9.8. > >> I suspect I could/should be running i686 with pae. Not sure why the >> installer choose

encfs quit wrking after full upgrade (jessie)

2015-04-01 Thread Harry Putnam
Following a fairly recent `full-upgrade', I'm no longer able to mount and enfs directory I've had for a good while. I installed it on jessie using wheezy on my sources.list. That worked for some months... but my most recent `full-upgrade' has done something that causes it to fail now. Error from

Re: how to debug this fuse problem

2015-04-06 Thread Harry Putnam
Guanqing.lu writes: > Hi > > I met the same error message today and got it fixed in following way: > > root@myhost01 grub]# dmesg |grep fuse > [5174104.384024] fuse: disagrees about version of symbol iov_iter_get_pages > [5174104.384027] fuse: Unknown symbol iov_iter_get_pages (err -22) > [5174

change sources.list to follow testing, not jessie

2015-04-16 Thread Harry Putnam
My current sources.list: , | deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian testing main contrib non-free | deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian testing main contrib non-free | | deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ jessie-updates main contrib non-free | deb-src http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ jessie-up

Re: Long neglected OS ... updating

2015-12-13 Thread Harry Putnam
Stefan Monnier writes: > [ Speaking as someone who re-installs as rarely as possible, and whose > machines almost all derive (via upgrades like yours) from an install > from around 2006. ] OK, now were talking Thanks again to all posters... really good expert help here. [...] main bul

odd internal mail failure

2016-02-21 Thread Harry Putnam
On a recently installed jessie OS I've found an odd situation happing with the internal mail. root is getting a message from root. At least that is what appears in >From and To. However the message is showing up in users directory as a file named `$'. Here is the header: From r...@d.local.l

Re: odd internal mail failure

2016-02-21 Thread Harry Putnam
David Wright writes: > The obvious candidate is /etc/mailname which I don't see > any reference to your changing. /etc/mailname appears to be the culprit ... thanks.

reconstitute /boot on stretch

2017-10-12 Thread Harry Putnam
I managed to delete /boot and all contents, on a `stretch' system. Of course it will not boot now. So maybe work from a live cd or install media... How can I go about reconstituting the /boot directory and contents that match my install? Not sure how to create the initrd, Sysmap, grub directory

vbox cannot find headers, although they are installed

2018-01-06 Thread Harry Putnam
Having a problem getting the vbox guest additions on a `testing' install to allow for larger monitor resolution. When I attempt to install the additions the ouput says it cannot find the headers for the running kernel. I have checked, rechecked and reinstalled the headers but still get the messag

Re: vbox cannot find headers, although they are installed

2018-01-07 Thread Harry Putnam
"x9p" writes: > On Sat, January 6, 2018 11:36 pm, Harry Putnam wrote: > ... >> (Look at /var/log/vboxadd-install.log to find out what went wrong) > ... > > the line above can explain a lot. Looked at that for some length before posting... it didn't explain do

Re: how to gather info for reporting problem

2011-10-10 Thread Harry Putnam
Camaleón writes: > On Mon, 10 Oct 2011 10:18:47 -0500, Harry Putnam wrote: > >> Camaleón writes: >> >>>>> I hardly doubt such complains could have come from people on this >>>>> list, or at least from people who likes following the good and o

Re: dates of install for pkgs

2011-10-10 Thread Harry Putnam
Gilbert Sullivan writes: > On 10/10/2011 10:17 AM, Harry Putnam wrote: >> Is there a command similar to `dpkg --get-selections' that shows all >> installed/deinstalled pkgs, but where one can get the dates of install >> or remove. >> >> A fairly quick pass

Re: nvidia driver performance drop?

2011-10-11 Thread Harry Putnam
Sven Joachim writes: > Get xserver 1.10 from snapshot.debian.org, try a patch against 1.11.1 > from the nvidia forum², or use nouveau (you probably want to install the > libgl1-mesa-dri-experimental package in the latter case). Where does one get that dri pkg. With sources.list like so: deb ht

Re: nvidia driver performance drop?

2011-10-11 Thread Harry Putnam
Sven Joachim writes: >> an `aptitude search g11' finds nothing. >^ > Hint: Use copy & paste. Or choose a font that better distinguishes the > letter 'l' from the digit '1'. Gack, yup what a looser I am. But still the right search turns up nothing either. aptitude sea

Re: nvidia driver performance drop?

2011-10-11 Thread Harry Putnam
Sven Joachim writes: > On 2011-10-11 16:56 +0200, Harry Putnam wrote: > >> Sven Joachim writes: >> >>> Get xserver 1.10 from snapshot.debian.org, try a patch against 1.11.1 >>> from the nvidia forum², or use nouveau (you probably want to install the >>

Re: nvidia driver performance drop?

2011-10-11 Thread Harry Putnam
Sven Joachim writes: [...] > > That's because you need to look for gl1, not gll. [...] Brad Rogers writes: [...] > Still wrong, it's gl1 (gee ell one). Oh boy, I guess there is not much doubt that I need new glasses. I'm so sorry for wasting your and the lists time. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE,

Re: dates of install for pkgs

2011-10-12 Thread Harry Putnam
Jörg-Volker Peetz writes: > So, something like > > (cd /var/lib/dpkg/info; ls -l *.list \ > | while read a b c d mm dd ty nm; do echo "$mm $dd $ty ${nm%.list}"; done) > > could give a starting point for a list of installation dates. > For the removed packages this, obviously, does not work :-(

Re: dates of install for pkgs

2011-10-12 Thread Harry Putnam
Jörg-Volker Peetz writes: > (cd /var/lib/dpkg/info; ls -l *.list \ > | while read a b c d mm dd ty nm; do echo "$mm $dd $ty ${nm%.list}"; done) > > could give a starting point for a list of installation dates. > For the removed packages this, obviously, does not work :-( Another quickie take o

Re: hostname set to "new-host"

2011-10-12 Thread Harry Putnam
Celejar writes: > Hi, > > Just rebooted my system, and the hostname is now set to > 'new-host' (/etc/hostname still contains the correct hostname). Anybody > seeing this, or understand why? What is in /etc/hosts -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject

How to get version information in common notation

2011-10-12 Thread Harry Putnam
How can I quickly get version information for packages I have installed. I mean the common kind of notion used throughout linux. Not the unusual non standard notation one gets with `apt-get versions', which is not suitable for copy/paste: , |aptitude versions xorg | ihA 1:7.6+9

Re: hostname set to "new-host"

2011-10-12 Thread Harry Putnam
Celejar writes: >> > Just rebooted my system, and the hostname is now set to >> > 'new-host' (/etc/hostname still contains the correct hostname). Anybody >> > seeing this, or understand why? >> >> What is in /etc/hosts > > Nothing that seems particularly relevant - is there anything I should > l

Re: How to get version information in common notation

2011-10-12 Thread Harry Putnam
Brian writes: > On Wed 12 Oct 2011 at 09:45:19 -0500, Harry Putnam wrote: > >> And how can I know at a glance which xserver[s] are in use? It appears >> the original installation routine has installed a heard of them. 37 in >> fact. > > /var/log/Xorg.0.log wil

Re: How to get version information in common notation

2011-10-12 Thread Harry Putnam
Darac Marjal writes: > On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 09:45:19AM -0500, Harry Putnam wrote: >> How can I quickly get version information for packages I have >> installed. I mean the common kind of notion used throughout linux. > > If you want the version information for PACKAG

Re: How to get version information in common notation

2011-10-12 Thread Harry Putnam
Raf Czlonka writes: > On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 03:45:19PM BST, Harry Putnam wrote: >> And how can I know at a glance which xserver[s] are in use? It >> appears the original installation routine has installed a heard of >> them. 37 in fact. > > These are not different

Re: How to get version information in common notation

2011-10-12 Thread Harry Putnam
Joey Hess writes: [...] > dpkg-query can display the information in whatever form you want. For > example: > > dpkg-query --show --showformat '${Package} ${Version}\n' > > (package-version is rarely used in Debian because it's ambiguous; > is foo-9-1 version 9-1 or foo, or version 1.2 of foo-9?

Re: How to get version information in common notation

2011-10-12 Thread Harry Putnam
Tom H writes: > aptitude search -F '%p %v' xorg > > or for all installed packages > > aptitude search -F '%p %v' '?installed' Man, I'm really sorry for having just skated right over all that information in man aptitude showing how the % operator can be used. Thanks for point it out -- To UNS

Re: How to get version information in common notation

2011-10-12 Thread Harry Putnam
Raf Czlonka writes: > You can remove most of the video drivers, leaving only the one(s) > corresponding to your graphic card. The same goes with input > drivers. Is the only way to tell which correspond with Video card, just picking them out of /var/log/Xorg.0.log? Or is there some trick way to

Re: How to get version information in common notation

2011-10-12 Thread Harry Putnam
Joey Hess writes: > Harry Putnam wrote: >> I'm not sure what you mean there, but for example.. if you search a >> pkg at: >> http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/xorg-dev >> >> It will show up with a version notation. So I'm thinking the OS must &

Re: How to get version information in common notation

2011-10-12 Thread Harry Putnam
Raf Czlonka writes: > You can remove most of the video drivers, leaving only the one(s) > corresponding to your graphic card. The same goes with input drivers. > I'm still managing to confuse myself. When I look at some of the drivers that nearly positive I do not need with `aptitude why' It

Re: How to get version information in common notation

2011-10-12 Thread Harry Putnam
Sven Joachim writes: [...] >> i task-desktop Depends xserver-xorg-video-all >> ihA xserver-xorg-video-all Depends xserver-xorg-video-ati >> i A xserver-xorg-video-ati Depends xserver-xorg-video-mach64 >> >> Note that the output shows `Depends' rather than `Recommends', s

Re: How to get version information in common notation

2011-10-12 Thread Harry Putnam
Raf Czlonka writes: > Answering your previous question, there's no way of automating the process > of auto-discovery of graphic card, therefore if you'd like to run > a desktop system and install 'task-desktop' (itself not a real package > but a virtual one, a task which installs other packages)

Re: How to get version information in common notation

2011-10-12 Thread Harry Putnam
Brian writes: > Solution to your problem: mark the packages as having been manually > installed. I don't use aptitude but believe it is capable of doing it. That looks promising and yes aptitude has that capability as I see it in the man page. Thanks for the handy tip. That should get it squar

How to expand sudo environment when -E doesn't

2011-10-13 Thread Harry Putnam
I find sudo to be particularly ill informed at times. For example: Attempting to run a `for' loop as user: for ii in 1 2 3;do echo $ii;done 1 2 3 as sudoer: sudo for ii in 1 2 3;do echo $ii;done bash: syntax error near unexpected token `do' It doesn't know about bash builtins. Adding t

Re: How to expand sudo environment when -E doesn't

2011-10-13 Thread Harry Putnam
Chris Davies writes: [...] >> What can I do to avoid this kind of silliness? What kind of >> environment variable would even tell sudo about bash builtins? > > There isn't one. You can't use bash builtins like that in any > command. Instead, you should consider a construct like this: > > su

Re: How to get version information in common notation

2011-10-13 Thread Harry Putnam
Carl-Valentin Schmitt writes: > Hello Harry Putnam, > > not sure, what you really mean. > Do you mean this ?: What is that? > lsb_release -a lsb_release -a No LSB modules are available. Distributor ID: Debian Description:Debian GNU/Linux testing (wheezy) Release:t

Re: How to get version information in common notation

2011-10-13 Thread Harry Putnam
Harry Putnam writes: >> not sure, what you really mean. >> Do you mean this ?: > > What is that? Sorry I suddenly realized you must mean inside the ncurses aptitude. I rarely use that... its very confusing to work with. I mostly use the cmdline aspects of aptitude.

What to make of this apt-get update output.

2011-10-13 Thread Harry Putnam
I'm not making much sense of this apt-get output but it looks like it might be important: Sorry to include the whole output but there were errors shown in a few places. And also wondering what all the Hit/Ign Stuff is about. First the sources.list: deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ wheezy

Re: What to make of this apt-get update output.

2011-10-14 Thread Harry Putnam
Bob Proulx writes: > Harry Putnam wrote: >> First the sources.list: >> >> deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ wheezy main contrib non-free >> # deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ wheezy main >> >> deb http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updat

Re: What to make of this apt-get update output.

2011-10-14 Thread Harry Putnam
Brian writes: > On Thu 13 Oct 2011 at 20:41:40 -0500, Harry Putnam wrote: > >> I'm not making much sense of this apt-get output but it looks like it >> might be important: >> >> Sorry to include the whole output but there were errors shown in a few >>

Re: What to make of this apt-get update output.

2011-10-14 Thread Harry Putnam
Lisi writes: > On Friday 14 October 2011 11:12:35 Harry Putnam wrote: >> I'm not sure I understand why they still have lists of mirrors and such >> on that very page. > > For the benefit of those of us still using volatile? Lenny uses > volatile, and is going to

Re: What to make of this apt-get update output.

2011-10-14 Thread Harry Putnam
Wayne Topa writes: > On 10/14/2011 07:54 AM, Harry Putnam wrote: >> Lisi writes: >> >>> On Friday 14 October 2011 11:12:35 Harry Putnam wrote: >>>> I'm not sure I understand why they still have lists of mirrors and such >>>> on that very pag

Re: What to make of this apt-get update output.

2011-10-14 Thread Harry Putnam
Camaleón writes: [...] > It was published in Release Notes: > > http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/release-notes/ch-whats-new.en.html#stable-updates > > And also in the wiki: > > http://wiki.debian.org/StableUpdates Except its no good for over a mnth. (From apt-get update: E: Releas

Re: What to make of this apt-get update output.

2011-10-14 Thread Harry Putnam
Wayne Topa writes: [...] > Give a man to fish, feed him for a day > Teach a man to fish, feed him for life > > I used to teach Electronics/Programming many many moons ago. So in your case it was: Give a man a shock and stun him for life. ;) (Sorry couldn't resist..) Thanks for the helpful i

Re: What to make of this apt-get update output.

2011-10-14 Thread Harry Putnam
Wayne Topa writes: >> Thanks for the helpful input. I guess I'm disgustingly lazy. > > Oh? Let me try to make it a bit easier for you. > > 1. Install Apache2 and dwww packages. > 2. Use dwww to bring up the Debian-Reference HTML Document. > 3. For Packaging select Chapter 2. > 4. In iceweas

Re: Canonical way to set compile flags with package manager

2011-10-15 Thread Harry Putnam
Raf Czlonka writes: > On Thu, Oct 06, 2011 at 11:02:11PM BST, Harry Putnam wrote: >> I went ahead and compiled it myself and installed in /usr/local >> >> Is there anyway to do that and still allow pkgmanager to keep track of >> the install? > > Apart from r

why doesn't ~/.inputrc work

2011-10-15 Thread Harry Putnam
Since installing debian recently I've never seen my old ~/.inputrc file be honored. Is there some pkg beyond readline that I need for it to work. Is see quite a few readline pkgs but it appears I have the basic ones installed. Maybe something else is necessary? aptitude search -F '%p %v' '?ins

Howto asses possible damage from downgrade Xorg

2011-10-15 Thread Harry Putnam
Running recently installed wheezy system I see this version information concerning Xorg server: aptitude versions xserver-xorg-core i A 2:1.11.1-1 testing 500 I'd like to experiment with the previous version 1.10. Compare certain behavior against the current version. But don't

Re: why doesn't ~/.inputrc work

2011-10-15 Thread Harry Putnam
Teemu Likonen writes: > * 2011-10-15T07:50:42-05:00 * Harry Putnam wrote: > >> Since installing debian recently I've never seen my old ~/.inputrc >> file be honored. > > Perhaps the content of your .inputrc is not quite valid anymore? I > remember having required

Re: why doesn't ~/.inputrc work

2011-10-15 Thread Harry Putnam
Harry Putnam writes: > So you both were apparently right about it being syntax related but > how can I get to bottom of it? > > Buzzing thru man readline, I didn't notice an example that clearly > says how to designate the ALT key. Anyone using entries in ~/.inputrc >

Re: why doesn't ~/.inputrc work

2011-10-16 Thread Harry Putnam
Teemu Likonen writes: > * 2011-10-15T16:26:59-05:00 * Harry Putnam wrote: > >> So I guess its just a matter of figuring out how to designate the Alt >> key in .inputrc. I haven't hit on it yet. > > Here's a part of my .inputrc: > > set editing-mode

Re: why doesn't ~/.inputrc work

2011-10-16 Thread Harry Putnam
Raf Czlonka writes: > On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 10:14:59PM BST, Harry Putnam wrote: >> Not too long ago, just wks, .inputrc worked on another system. That >> was also recent bash. > > Is it by any chance related the recent ncurses library split[0] to which > libread

Re: Howto asses possible damage from downgrade Xorg

2011-10-16 Thread Harry Putnam
Camaleón writes: [...] >> I'd like to experiment with the previous version 1.10. Compare certain >> behavior against the current version. But don't know what I'm doing well >> enough to make a good assessment of what damage may be done to my system >> by downgrading like that on such an import

Virtualbox.. hogging resources?

2011-10-17 Thread Harry Putnam
I've just installed a guest OS of openindiana-151 (Solaris) and on first boot after install I'm seeing VirtualBox pegged at around 95 % for minutes on end. I don't recal seeing anything like that some time ago installing the same OS on a windows 7 HOST. Can any VB users here confirm that this dam

Re: Virtualbox.. hogging resources?

2011-10-18 Thread Harry Putnam
Camaleón writes: > On Mon, 17 Oct 2011 20:12:19 -0500, Harry Putnam wrote: > >> I've just installed a guest OS of openindiana-151 (Solaris) and on first >> boot after install I'm seeing VirtualBox pegged at around 95 % for >> minutes on end. >> >>

Technical Q for a `build from source' adept

2011-10-18 Thread Harry Putnam
I'm trying to build a package on another OS, so this may be a bit OT but it really more of a general `developer' kind of question. A package (xbindkeys) goes through the `./configure' phase ok, seeming to find every thing it needs. But `make' breaks out pretty early on: , | make all-am | ma

Re: Virtualbox.. hogging resources?

2011-10-19 Thread Harry Putnam
Camaleón writes: >>> How many cores do you have in the host and how many are assigned to the >>> guest? >> >> 1. Guest is assigned 900Mb Ram > Well, I said "cores" (processor cores) not ram :-) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubsc

Unkillable process with firefox

2011-10-19 Thread Harry Putnam
I have a situation I had not seen before where when I try to start firefox I'm told its already running. ps wwaux reveals: (all on one line - wrapped for mail) reader2617 2.1 6.9 804920 143440 pts/8 Ds+ Oct18 \ 31:58 /usr/bin/firefox http://forums.winamp.com/login.php?a\ =pwd&u=14

Re: Virtualbox.. hogging resources?

2011-10-19 Thread Harry Putnam
Camaleón writes: > How many cores do you have in the host and how many are assigned to > the guest? 1. Guest is assigned 900Mb Ram >> > > Wow... If you meant "1 core" that was hard to interpret ;-) > > Okay, consider then increasing the number of cores to 1/2 of the host:

Re: Unkillable process with firefox

2011-10-19 Thread Harry Putnam
Camaleón writes: > "Ds+" means the process is: > > D → uninterruptible sleep (usually IO) > s → session leader > + → run in foreground > >> So some kind of evil process firefox is involved in. >> >> as root: >> >> # kill -KILL 2617 >> >> But again `ps wwaux' reveals the same line. >> >> How

Re: Technical Q for a `build from source' adept

2011-10-19 Thread Harry Putnam
Camaleón writes: > On Tue, 18 Oct 2011 22:53:48 -0500, Harry Putnam wrote: > >> I'm trying to build a package on another OS, > > Don't tell... is for OpenIndiana? Err ahh err I can't rightly say, but er the initials are oi hehe. [...] > Inter

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