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in rc2.d I belive I edited the symlink to the
xdm program, renaming "S99xdm ->..." to "K99xdm ->...". But in
debian I get a beep when I try. Am I imagining I once edited the
name of a symlink? Can't one do it in debian?
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> On Sat, 2003-10-25 at 19:57, Haines Brown wrote:
> >
> > 1. Where do I set the global bash prompt format? I changed PS1= in
> >/etc/profile, but that only affects user, not root.
> >
> > 2. I had placed the command "setterm -blank 0" in RedHat&
Thanks, Wayne. I had previously done the basic configurations globally
rather than in ~/.bashrc, but your suggestion to do it for each user
has a backup advantage.
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As for setting up basic bash configuration, a little experimentation
shows that this is what I've got (debian 3.0r1).
Root has both .bashrc and .profile, and the configuations (custom bash
prompt and setterm) can go in either place. User has a .bashrc and
.bash_profile (there's no .profile), and
> one of the 'freedoms' of debian is that runlevel 2 to 5 are the same. 2 is
> the default runlevel. RH and others have seperate runlevels. Its something
> that confused me and there are some people out there like me who like the
> RH runlevel scheme but havent changed prevailing minds. Oh well!
K
> On Sat, Oct 25, 2003 at 09:08:48PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
> >
> > Of course, you could always deinstall xdm :
> > # apt-get --purge remove xdm
>
> apt-get remove --purge xdm
Yes, on second thought, removal might be best, since I'll never use
xdm, and with a new install, this is a good time
> Which is generated by the "adduser" routine by copying the skeleton
> files from /etc/skel. You can add other files in this directory if
> you want them to be added to new users' home directories.
Interesting--the plot thickens! So, if one wants to set a global
configuration for bash, such as
is much
simpler. In /etc/aliases, I use the same syntax as with RedHat
sendmail, only build the database with the # postalias /etc/aliases
rather than # newaliases command. However, since my aliases don't
work, I'm not sure.
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> > prompt and setterm) can go in either place. User has a .bashrc and
> > .bash_profile (there's no .profile), and the configuration must go
> > into the latter. It does not work for me if put into .bashrc.
>
an .h extension if the header is
actually installed.
I suspect that I'm making a simple (i.e., stupid) little mistake
somewhere.
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> On Mon, 27 Oct 2003 10:52:02 -0500 (EST)
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Haines Brown) wrote:
>
> > I find that my /usr/src/kernel-headers-2.4.18-bf2.4 directory only
> > holds a .config file and an include directory. I assume that what I
> > should see here is a file with an .h
ow if this redirection occurred before my message was
distributed to the list, or as a result of that distribution. I'd
appreciate knowing if anyone saw my message arrive. I don't recall the
exact subject line, but it had to do with aptitude installation of
kernel-headers.
Haines
Thanks for letting me know my message got through. I'm only at the
point of setting up the X windows system in my debian installation, so
can't yet cruise cyberspace to check the archives. At present, my X
server starts, but all I get is a blank blue screen. I try to start
icewm (it seems to be rea
> > At present, my X server starts, but all I get is a blank blue
> > screen. I try to start icewm (it seems to be ready to run) by
> > adding an exec into /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc and in ~/.Xinitrc, but
> > nothing happens.
>
> This should be ~/.xinitrc (all lowercase). Actually, I always put it
>
Get rid of everything: what a good idea!
I got rid of everything, and in the .xsession put exec icewm. That
didn't work. So I replaced the command with exec xterm. That did
work--sort of.
When I start x with the xterm execution, what I get is a black
rectangle in upper left 2/3 of screen with a b
Jaume,
You missed one of my points, which was that the command prompt of the
xterm disappeared as soon as there was keyboard input. Even the
Ctl-Alt-Backspace to close the X server causes bash to terminate. I'm
not sure bash quite made it in the first place, for the white
insertion rectangle shoul
> > You missed one of my points, which was that the command prompt of the
> > xterm disappeared as soon as there was keyboard input. Even the
> > Ctl-Alt-Backspace to close the X server causes bash to terminate. I'm
> > not sure bash quite made it in the first place, for the white
> > insertion rec
> 4.- You can reconfigure the xserver at any time with
>
> $ dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86
Sorry, I didn't realize that I'd complete this so quickly. Creating
a very elemental XF86Config did the trick, and icewm loads. Now I can
play with the configruation to see where I went wrong.
Thanks.
Thanks for the input. I was able to get x running by rebuilding the
configuration file. Somehow, I had managed to gum things up. Tomorrow
I figure out what I did wrong, but meanwhile at least I get my window
manager to display. My mouse is working and I can input keyboard into
the xterm, so I'm all
OK, I assume the problem is deeper than
that. Could it be the missing DISPLAY?
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> > I think this may be is a debian question because user can start the
> > FileRunner file manager, but not root. When root tries, it gets the
> > error:
> >
> > Application can't initialize because it lacks display name and no
> > $DISPLAY environment variable.
>
> You're probably using 's
> > I tried: "set DISPLAY teufel:0.0; export DISPLAY" /root/.profile, but
> > it. My sytax probably wrong. Can I substitute "localhost" here for
> > "teufel"?
>
> If you're logged in as a normal user, what does
> env | grep DISPLAY
> show you?
Monique, it displays as it should: :0.0. My p
installation of debian 3.0r1 from cdrom disks, or is this a known bug?
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> Please don't CC me. (If somehow my sig isn't clear enough, please let
> me know how I can make it so.)
My apologies. The current auto CC: is something I did not have before,
and so I'm not used to removing that line. I was aware I had forgotten
to do that as soon as I had sent the message to yo
> Why not just use 'su' (with no parameters) or 'su - -p'?
>
> -m, -p, --preserve-environment
> do not reset environment variables, and keep the same shell
>
> That will preserve things like X display dettings. Just an idea.
Perhaps it is a philosophical issue, but my inst
> each user has a session and a session key. this key is used to
> authenticate yourself to the Xserver. Root as a key and each user
> does.
Yes, that makes sense.
> so when you login as user and then switch to root, it tried to use your
> root key to access the user session-- no go.
? When I l
> No, I think if you had actually started X as root then you certainly
> would have an appropriate $DISPLAY. The issue is not really rootness,
> it's that $DISPLAY is set in the environment of the X session which is
> run as the user who started X, and .Xauthority is in the home directory
> of the
th an
installation.
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> I don't think anything is broken in your setup. I do seem to
> recollect that, when I used RH, su- was able to use Xwindows, so it
> may be that some distros execute this differently.
Yes, Richard, apparently I had work habits based on the RedHat setup,
and didn't realize that under debian I'd
you add to your XF86Config(-4) is
"nvidia."
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s out, the xset commands can be set at "run
time." Does that mean run time for x server? If so, where would the
xset command be put? Do you think I could put them into
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xinit/xserverrc ? Doing it this way seems a lot
cleaner than plugging in enormous numbers of minutes fo
> I echo Colin's thought. Forget about "su" and use "sudo". It takes an
> extra 5 keystrokes per command, but it "just works", and in my opinion
> is better than forgetting you're root and doing something you don't want
> to do.
>
> apt-get install sudo
> visudo, add yourself a line similar to
> hb> $ xhost +local
> hb> non-network local connection being added to access control list
> hb> $ su
> hb> Password:
> hb> #
>
> Well this doesn't prove anything: you have to run an X application as
> root before you can know whether it worked or not.
>
> This is still a bad
rface to mediate the relation of your
driver and kernel.
Further, it is apparently free. Or at least I downloaded and installed
the driver on woody and have not paid yet ;-). The driver's name is
"nvidia."
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> Thanks you Haines. I have downloaded all the required stuff and
> only need to know where to put it to install. I hope no one says it
> dosent matter. That isnt the question. Where do I put the header
> files? Where to put the driver files?
> Sincere Thanks for your help;
> Hoyt
It _really_
I put this following into ~/.bash_profile:
# to get rid of blanking of console:
setterm -blank 0
but I was never able to find out were in /etc to put it for a global
effect rather than just in account configurations.
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Day age on index files
No-Store "false";// Prevent the cache from storing archives
};
};
// Things that effect the APT dselect method
DSelect
{
Clean "auto"; // always|auto|prompt|never
};
Where did I go wrong?
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> On Sat, Nov 01, 2003 at 08:02:58AM -0500, Haines Brown said
> > First a general question. Is there some way to determine, without prior
> > knowledge, what packages need to be downloaded? None of the packages
> > on the debian site said anything like, "general Qt&q
> > OK, so next I want to get the sudo package and run:
> >
> > # apt-get install sudo
> > Reading Package Lists... Done
> > Building Dependency Tree... Done
> > W: Couldn't stat source package list http://ftp.br.debian.org
> > woody/main Packages
> >
> > (/var/lib/apt/lists/ftp.br.de
> > Err http://ftp.br.debian.org woody/main Packages
> > Could not connect to 127.0.0.1:3128 (127.0.0.1). - connect=20
> > (111 Connection refused)
> > Err http://ftp.br.debian.org woody/main Release
> > Could not connect to 127.0.0.1:3128 (127.0.0.1). - connect=20
> > (111
Jakob, a little light is begging to shine. In my reading I did not see
anything about apt-cdrom, and so had to guess what had to be added to
the config file. I guessed, wrong, it seems.
> > Err http://ftp.br.debian.org woody/main Packages
> > Could not connect to 127.0.0.1:3128 (127.0.0.1).
> On Fri, Oct 31, 2003 at 08:39:09PM -0500, stan wrote:
> > I'm setting up a machine that will rum umatended, and print some
> > information on several console sessions. In testing, I find thta the
> > console blanks afyer some period of time, even if daya is being writtten =
> to
> > it :-(
> >=20
Rob, I think it's comming along:
> > If so, apparently the following is
> > wrong/insufficient:=20
> >=20
> > Acquire
> > {
> > Retries "0";
> > // I added this next subsection:
> > http=20
> > {
> > Proxy "http://127.0.0.1:3128";;
> > Proxy::http.us.debian.org "DIRECT"; // Speci
> On Sat, Nov 01, 2003 at 06:16:59AM -0500, Haines Brown wrote:
> > I put this following into ~/.bash_profile:
> >=20
> > # to get rid of blanking of console:
> > setterm -blank 0
> >=20
> > but I was never able to find out were in /etc to put it for
> You have to update the local cache with what is available on the remote
> site...
>
> apt-get update
>
> apt-get install sudo
>
> Should really do:
>
> apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
>
> First and foremost...!
OK, I removed the references to cdrom in my /etc/apt/sources.list, and
things
Greg,
Your information of great help, but only leads to more questions.
1. Where does one read about such specifics as the need to have a
security source to do an upgrade? What I've seen on apt says
relatively little.
3. The address didn't work, and I also tried a couple others. When I
he script error remains, suggesting that purge did not remove
configuration files.
How should I have gone about removing an application so that its
original configuration files are deleted?
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like this, and I keep thinking the problem is with me.
All I needed was a simple graphical interface for dict (gsdict seems a
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w does one use aptitude to install a local deb file?
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I have the following lines in my /etc/apt/sources.list
deb http://security.debian.org woody/updates main contrib non-free
deb http://security.debian.org/ stable/updates main
deb http://www.videolan.org/pub/videolan/debian $(ARCH)/
When I run Aptitude update, they won't stat.
Haines
> > Interesting, but I'm still stuck. I didn't see now to change the start
> > up script to get around the problem. So I did the following in an
> > attempt to start with a clean slate:
> >=20
> ># aptitude purge ding
> >deleted /var/...archives/ding
> >check in /var/lib/dpkg/info to ma
> On Sun, Nov 02, 2003 at 03:15:06PM -0500, Haines Brown wrote:
> > I've spent some time pouring over apt-HOWTO, and just don't
> > understand. I want to use aptitude to install a local .deb file. I
> > place it in my /storage/debs.
> >
> > In the HOWT
> > How does one use aptitude to install a local deb file?
>
> There may be a way to convince aptitude to do this, though i don't know
> of one. It seems to me you may just be using the wrong tool for the
> job.
>
> Is there some compelling reason not to use dpkg for your situation?
>
> dpkg --
> Wouldn't you also need to delete ~/.dingrc?
Jerome, you are quite right. I had relied on the list file and didn't
realize that it omitted configuration files. Once I got the clue, sure
enough, the file was there, and the script problem was obvious and
easily fixed.
Thanks.
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> On Sun, Nov 02, 2003 at 06:50:59PM -0500, Haines Brown wrote:
> > In any case, the dpkg -i does not work. I'll give the
> > specifics:
> >
> > # dpkg -i /storage/debs/libdvdcss2.deb
> > dpkg: error processing /storage/debs/libdvdcss2.deb (--install):
>
of old OS/2
DAT tapes I'd like to access, but that will not be easy, no longer
having the commercial software, etc.). With tapes, you are probably
stuck using the one machine that has the drive, while an external
drive can be moved to any machine.
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> Put it in /storage/debs/.=20
>
> Just to clarify, I would do something like:
>
> echo "deb file:/storage/ debs/" >> /etc/apt/sources.list
> dpkg-scanpackages /storages/debs /dev/null | gzip > /storage/debs/Packages.=
> gz
> apt-get update
> apt-get install whatever
Nick, this is one thing I or
>
> I'm confused; 'dpkg -i' is quite happy to take absolute paths. What does
> 'ls -l /storage/debs/libdvdcss2.deb' say?
>
> Are you sure that it isn't really
> /storage/debs/libdvdcss2_someversionorother_i386.deb?
>
> > Once I did that, it went OK, except that the package had an unmet
> > depen
Nick, thanks, but your second method (installing dependences first,
then the package that needs them) does not work for me. Here's what
I did.
# cd /storage/debs // went to place where the .debs file is located
# ls// I see listed libdb1-compat_2.1.3-7_i386.deb
> On Sun, Nov 02, 2003 at 03:43:27PM -0500, Haines Brown said
> > I have the following lines in my /etc/apt/sources.list
> >=20
> > deb http://security.debian.org woody/updates main contrib non-free
> > deb http://security.debian.org/ stable/updates main
> >
> On Tue, Nov 04, 2003 at 07:58:20AM -0500, Haines Brown wrote:
> > # cd /storage/debs // went to place where the .debs file is located
> > # ls// I see listed libdb1-compat_2.1.3-7_i386.deb
> > // and libc6_2.3.2-9_i386.deb
&
Colin, I suspect your directions fixed my problem, but I still fumble
on the final installation.
> OK, I would advise two things. Firstly, /etc/apt/sources.list should
> contain this instead of the last line:
>
> deb file:/storage/debs ./
This was accepted when I did # aptitude update
> Seco
> In future, it would be a *massive* help to us if you could include the
> full error that you see. Ideally without wrapping, without
> indentation, etc.
I understand, but since I can't copy from xterm (don't know if it is
broken or I'm expecting too much of it), I have to pipe output,
etc. So in
> From: Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> [Could you attribute the person whom you're quoting, please?]
Sorry - this not working yet, and it sometimes slips my mind to copy a
line from from the header.
> To copy from xterm, highlight the region you want to copy with the
> left mouse button.
/etc/cron.daily, so
that the clocks are reset daily according to NIST. Will this work; is
there a better arrangement?
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e, it mysteriously popped up in
/var/lib/apt/lists ("_storage_debs_Packages") and my problem ceased.
How do I force apt to register the testing address in
/var/lib/apt/lists?
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> From: Rob Weir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To copy from xterm, highlight the region you want to copy with the
> > > left mouse button. To paste somewhere else, middle-click.
> >=20
> > Sorry - not working (with middle mousebutton; I don't expect span to
> > work because I didn't say to emulate thr
> From: David Z Maze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Haines Brown) writes:
>
> > I have an executable script, "time.rc" which has:
> >
> > #! /bin/bash
> > rdate -s time-b.nist.gov
> > clock -w
>
> It's almost ce
> From: Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> On Wed, Nov 05, 2003 at 09:23:16AM -0500, Haines Brown wrote:
> > From: Rob Weir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > If you re-run "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86", you can change this.
> >
> > Yes, but
> From: Pigeon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > On Wed, Nov 05, 2003 at 09:23:16AM -0500, Haines Brown wrote:
> > I suspect as much. I find that I have two mouse sections in my X
> > configuration, and their Protocol is "PS/2", while my Microsoft mouse
&
su to user to handle
my mail. I find that user can start emacs, but not other x
clients. The error returned when I try is that there is no display
name and no DISPLAY variable.
I don't think I did anything that would affect authentification.
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> From: Pigeon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Try mdetect.
> I've only ever used it once... just ran it from the command line and
> it told me what the mouse was. No front end required.
That was what I was hoping. Seems harmless and I'll have to try it
(once I can get recover access to X server, tha
> From: Kent West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> Haines Brown wrote:
> > Finally bringing to conclusion my first debian (3.0r.1) install, I
> > ran aptitude update. When I subsequently rebooted, user cannot start
> > x, but root can.
> Create a new user, and se
> From: Rob Weir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> On Thu, Nov 06, 2003 at 05:51:30AM -0500, Haines Brown said
> > > From: Pigeon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >=20
> > > > > Try mdetect.
> > =20
> > > I've only ever used it once... just ran it fro
> From: David Z Maze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> If you install ntp-simple it will start a daemon that will
> periodically poll the time servers and gently keep your clock in
> sync. (If you're five seconds off, that time will be made up
> gradually, rather than abruptly shifting the clock.) No need t
> Haines Brown wrote:
> > Finally bringing to conclusion my first debian (3.0r.1) install, I
> > ran aptitude update. When I subsequently rebooted, user cannot
> > start x, but root can.
Sorry to reply to myself, but thought the information might be
useful. After spe
> From: Wayne Topa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> Have you read any of the below?
>
> /usr/share/doc/newbiedoc/newbiedoc-html/apt-get-intro/index-apt-get-intro.html
> /usr/share/doc/newbiedoc/newbiedoc-html/apt-get-intro/apt-and-install.html
> /usr/share/doc/newbiedoc/newbiedoc-html/apt-get-intro/info.
> From: Wayne Topa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> [teach to fish mode]
Yes, by all means!
> apt-cache search newbiedoc
> newbiedoc
Well, what is obvious to the experienced user, is something entirely
new to the newbie. I realized that # aptitude search
would search for uninstalled packages, but I did
accomodating, but can this be done
in principle? Would it overcome AOL's peculiar desire to block my
address?
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me packages cannot be installed.
E: Unable to resolve some dependencies!
...
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
libqt3-mt-dev: Depends: libqt3-dev (=2:3.0.3-20020329-1) but it is
not installable.
If I try to install ligqt3-dev, I can't do it because it has
uninstallab
. I get the errors:
W: Couldn't stat source package list http://http.us.debian.org
unstable/main Packages
(/var/lib/apt/lists/http.us.debian.org_debian_dists_unstable_main_binary-i386_Packages)
- stat (2 No such file or directory)
...
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> From: John Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>>deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian unstable main contrib non-free
> >>>
> >>>
> ^^^
>
> >>>deb-src http://http.us.debian.org/debian unstable main contrib non-free
> >>>
>
> From: Wayne Topa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > I've been following the thread with interest. While not the nearest
> > repository, I appended the above lines to my /etc/apt/sources.list and
> > as root ran: # aptitutde update. I get the errors:
>
> Network error?? Server down?
>
> I use more then one
> From: Wayne Topa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Possibly, but to check, I modify the URL that always works for me
> > (http://ftp.br.debian.org/debian) by changing its distribution from
> > "woody" to "unstable" (checked to make sure the site does archive this
> > distribution), and it still generates
> From: Wayne Topa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> all I do to prevent that is have 2-3 sites for each dist. That way if
> one or two are not there (for whatever reason) I get each dist anyway.
>
> I have seen the error you are getting but I don't care since I have a
> valid list from some other site. Ta
I need to have installed the kernel source in order to compile a
driver, but have difficulty finding the source for 2.4.18-bf2.4. Is
the answer that the "bf2.4" is just an addition, and that the kernel
source for my kernel is actually just 2.4.18?
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says X-MX-Has-Attach, but there's no mime or part header between the
message header and the MIME. That is, it goes right from To:... to the
MIME encoding.
I'm running rmail under emacs.
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hand, today there's not much left of the old rules, and so it becomes
very difficult for a composer to produce anything but
soon-to-be-forgotten "elevator music."
We are heirs of an ideological contradiction between freedom and
determinism, while in fact, in human affairs an
ot;ModeLine" statement. Is this
enormous mess normal in debian?
Did I fail to install a needed package? Shouldn't my video card have
been detected? Should I expect the debian xserver configuration to be
close enough to the RedHat so that I can use one to some extent as a
mode
> Haines Brown wrote:
> > I installed a woody base system and then install the xserver-svga
> > required by my nVidia GeForce3 card and a window manager. Then
> > from a root command line I ran startx. However, all I got as a
> > result was a black screen with sp
> Follow the instructions in the NVIDIA readmes EXACTLY. (When they
> refer to a "fully configured kernel source tree", they mean one in
> which you've done "make ?config" and "make dep".)
While I was planning to recompile the kernel first and then install
the driver as you suggest, is that order
> > My current configuration has a vertRefresh of 48-120 Hz, but the
> > debian file ends up with 50-85Hz.
>
> Just fix it in the file.
Thanks. Good to know that the information in XF86Config reflects
actual monitor capability rather than impose a restriction on it.
> > Should I expect the debia
Joris,
Thanks for the lead. It's always nice to have some hardware
detection. Does it build a database so that when new hardware is
installed, it opens a dialog for you to configure it during the boot
process?
The discover is a frontend for hardware detection tools, and you
mentioned one for the
In connection with this thread, is there a web site that keeps track
of various internet radio and TV resources that can be used by xmms or
xine? I find that the information that accompanies xine is inaccurate.
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> http://www.shoutcast.com/ is a good place for mp3 streams.
> http://www.webradio.com lists radio stations and has links to streams
> but no mp3 streams.
Pamela,
Thanks. Although www.webradio.com seems to have come down, I was able
to use your information to do a little search on line and pull
anual.
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> On Sun, Jun 01, 2003 at 06:06:08AM -0400, Haines Brown wrote:
> ...
> > If you do have a running system, then simply have root visit grub's
> > working directory and copy the two stage files over to an unmounted
> > floppy:
> >
> > # dd if=stage1 of
Carel,
Now I'm really getting worried, and trying to recall were I picked up
the suggestion to create a grub floppy (it wasn't my own idea). I was
from Linux Journal, but I can't seem to pin down the issue.
I also find a reference to doing so in the clone-HOWTO, section
5.3. Also
http://www.mathe
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