Re: reboot stuff doesn't start

2019-05-27 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 27 May 2019 04:50:22 am Curt wrote: > On 2019-05-26, Gene Heskett wrote: > > hum: > > root@coyote:GenesAmandaHelper-0.61$ systemctl status rc.local > > ● rc-local.service - /etc/rc.local Compatibility And un-noticed 100 lines later in that same log

Re: reboot stuff doesn't start

2019-05-27 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 27 May 2019 05:11:29 am Reco wrote: > Hi. > > On Sun, May 26, 2019 at 05:45:56PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Sunday 26 May 2019 12:13:38 pm john doe wrote: > > > On 5/26/2019 5:32 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > Greetings all; > &g

Re: IPV6 hosts file (was: Re: That time IPv6 farted in Gene's church (Was Re: forcedeth?))

2019-05-27 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 27 May 2019 08:58:14 am rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > On Monday, May 27, 2019 12:41:36 AM Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Sunday 26 May 2019 10:09:49 pm Andy Smith wrote: > > "you", below> > > > You are determined to exterminate any and all users of a hos

Re: IPV6 hosts file (was: Re: That time IPv6 farted in Gene's church (Was Re: forcedeth?))

2019-05-27 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 27 May 2019 03:19:44 pm Reco wrote: > On Mon, May 27, 2019 at 02:09:45PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Monday 27 May 2019 08:58:14 am rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > > > On Monday, May 27, 2019 12:41:36 AM Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > On Sunday 26 May 201

Re: That time IPv6 farted in Gene's church (Was Re: forcedeth?)

2019-05-27 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 27 May 2019 03:25:21 pm Brian wrote: > On Mon 27 May 2019 at 13:42:46 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Monday 27 May 2019 03:46:00 am Curt wrote: > > > On 2019-05-27, wrote: > > > > If Network Manager is giving you grief, please go bark up /that/ > &

Re: reboot stuff doesn't start

2019-05-27 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 27 May 2019 03:31:42 pm Reco wrote: > On Mon, May 27, 2019 at 02:00:49PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > May 25 12:03:03 coyote rc.local[884]: read: Connection reset by > > > > peer > > > > > > ... > > > > > >

Re: That time IPv6 farted in Gene's church (Was Re: forcedeth?)

2019-05-27 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 27 May 2019 03:42:52 pm Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > Quoting Gene Heskett (2019-05-27 19:42:46) > > > On Monday 27 May 2019 03:46:00 am Curt wrote: > > > On 2019-05-27, wrote: > > > > If Network Manager is giving you grief, please go bark up /that/ >

Re: That time IPv6 farted in Gene's church (Was Re: forcedeth?)

2019-05-27 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 27 May 2019 06:45:42 pm Brian wrote: > On Mon 27 May 2019 at 17:22:30 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Monday 27 May 2019 03:25:21 pm Brian wrote: > > > On Mon 27 May 2019 at 13:42:46 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > On Monday 27 May 2019 03:46:00 am Cu

Re: That time IPv6 farted in Gene's church (Was Re: forcedeth?)

2019-05-28 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 27 May 2019 11:18:49 pm Joe Pfeiffer wrote: > Gene Heskett writes: > > On Monday 27 May 2019 03:42:52 pm Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > >> Quoting Gene Heskett (2019-05-27 19:42:46) > >> > >> > On Monday 27 May 2019 03:46:00 am Curt wrote: > &g

Re: IPV6 hosts file (was: Re: That time IPv6 farted in Gene's church (Was Re: forcedeth?))

2019-05-28 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 28 May 2019 01:49:29 am Reco wrote: > Hi. > > On Mon, May 27, 2019 at 05:06:24PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Monday 27 May 2019 03:19:44 pm Reco wrote: > > > On Mon, May 27, 2019 at 02:09:45PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > On

Re: IPV6 hosts file (was: Re: That time IPv6 farted in Gene's church (Was Re: forcedeth?))

2019-05-28 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 28 May 2019 07:00:13 am Erik Christiansen wrote: > On 27.05.19 17:06, Gene Heskett wrote: > > Thats fine, shows the loop local stuff, but how does one determine > > the ipv6 address for picnc.coyote.den for instance. I think it > > somehow related to picnc's m

Re: That time IPv6 farted in Gene's church (Was Re: forcedeth?)

2019-05-28 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 28 May 2019 08:34:37 am Erik Christiansen wrote: > On 28.05.19 08:02, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Monday 27 May 2019 11:18:49 pm Joe Pfeiffer wrote: > > > Gene Heskett writes: > > > Your version (1.14.6-2) of network-manager appears to be out of > > &g

Re: IPV6 hosts file (was: Re: That time IPv6 farted in Gene's church (Was Re: forcedeth?))

2019-05-28 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 28 May 2019 08:48:06 am Dan Purgert wrote: > Gene Heskett wrote: > > only talk to it. But if I leave the radio on, I've a neighbor whose > > phone will use it in a heartbeat regardless > > [...] > > Sounds like someone forgot to set security on their wi

Re: IPV6 hosts file (was: Re: That time IPv6 farted in Gene's church (Was Re: forcedeth?))

2019-05-28 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 28 May 2019 08:59:41 am to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Tue, May 28, 2019 at 08:51:41AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > [...] > > > But who or what is the gatekeeper to make sure the address you > > choose, supposedly at random, isn't in use someplace next doo

Re: IPV6 hosts file (was: Re: That time IPv6 farted in Gene's church (Was Re: forcedeth?))

2019-05-28 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 28 May 2019 09:29:41 am to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Tue, May 28, 2019 at 09:19:55AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Tuesday 28 May 2019 08:59:41 am to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > [...] > > > > The third time, you owe me a beer ;-P > > > > You&#x

Re: IPV6 hosts file (was: Re: That time IPv6 farted in Gene's church (Was Re: forcedeth?))

2019-05-28 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 28 May 2019 09:30:59 am Erik Christiansen wrote: > On 28.05.19 14:59, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > On Tue, May 28, 2019 at 08:51:41AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > [...] > > > > > But who or what is the gatekeeper to make sure the address yo

Re: IPV6 hosts file (was: Re: That time IPv6 farted in Gene's church (Was Re: forcedeth?))

2019-05-28 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 28 May 2019 09:35:17 am Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Tue, May 28, 2019 at 08:32:38AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > Thats a piece of cake Reco. On a new install, set both the hostname > > and the domainname, then add them, with the ipv4 net address into > > the

Re: That time IPv6 farted in Gene's church (Was Re: forcedeth?)

2019-05-28 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 28 May 2019 09:48:35 am Erik Christiansen wrote: > On 28.05.19 08:59, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Tuesday 28 May 2019 08:34:37 am Erik Christiansen wrote: > > > That said, one could upgrade just that one package, and try it > > > out. If it is fixed, you&#x

Re: reboot stuff doesn't start

2019-05-28 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 28 May 2019 11:53:26 am Reco wrote: > Hi. > > On Tue, May 28, 2019 at 10:53:04AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Mon, May 27, 2019 at 12:11:29PM +0300, Reco wrote: > > > On Sun, May 26, 2019 at 05:45:56PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > >

Re: reboot stuff doesn't start

2019-05-28 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 28 May 2019 01:23:45 pm Gene Heskett wrote: > On Tuesday 28 May 2019 11:53:26 am Reco wrote: > > Hi. > > > > On Tue, May 28, 2019 at 10:53:04AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > On Mon, May 27, 2019 at 12:11:29PM +0300, Reco wrote: > > > >

Re: reboot stuff doesn't start

2019-05-28 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 28 May 2019 01:32:31 pm Reco wrote: > On Tue, May 28, 2019 at 01:23:45PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > End users can remove that '-e' flag if they believe it's > > > problematic. rc.local is a simple shell script, open to all kinds > > >

Re: reboot stuff doesn't start

2019-05-28 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 28 May 2019 03:37:55 pm Brian wrote: > On Tue 28 May 2019 at 14:20:22 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > And at that point in composing that reply, the keyboard went dead. I > > thought that was cron, calling hpfax, and finding it had nothing to > > do, > > Wh

Re: reboot stuff doesn't start

2019-05-29 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 29 May 2019 12:22:41 am Reco wrote: > On Tue, May 28, 2019 at 04:52:52PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Tuesday 28 May 2019 01:32:31 pm Reco wrote: > > > On Tue, May 28, 2019 at 01:23:45PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > > End users can remo

Re: reboot stuff doesn't start

2019-05-29 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 29 May 2019 12:22:41 am Reco wrote: > On Tue, May 28, 2019 at 04:52:52PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Tuesday 28 May 2019 01:32:31 pm Reco wrote: > > > On Tue, May 28, 2019 at 01:23:45PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > > End users can remo

Re: reboot stuff doesn't start

2019-05-29 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 29 May 2019 06:48:51 am Reco wrote: > Hi. > > On Wed, May 29, 2019 at 06:42:34AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Wednesday 29 May 2019 12:22:41 am Reco wrote: > > > On Tue, May 28, 2019 at 04:52:52PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > On

Re: reboot stuff doesn't start

2019-05-29 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 29 May 2019 08:20:02 am Brian wrote: > On Tue 28 May 2019 at 21:47:06 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Tuesday 28 May 2019 03:37:55 pm Brian wrote: > > > Why do think cron was calling hpfax? Did you set up the job? > > > (Using fax isn't exactly comm

A couple things yet on stretch install, amd64 version

2019-05-29 Thread Gene Heskett
Greetings all; I have rebooted quite a few times as I have moved a few things out of /e/rc.local to ~/gene/.trinity/Autostart one at a time & rebooting to test. I looks like mail has stopped but thats happened frequently at my ISP, then they dump 26 msgs into my folder and give the fetch

Re: Ping as normal user (Was: Why /usr/sbin is not in my root $PATH ?)

2019-05-29 Thread Gene Heskett
TH the installer sets up for $users, apparently does not include any of the sbin's, only /usr/bin and /bin. I've been fixing that for several generations of debian installs. Probably shouldn't as there may be some good reason for it, but it is MY machine. Cheers, Gene Heskett --

Re: A couple things yet on stretch install, amd64 version

2019-05-29 Thread Gene Heskett
it goes, my recollection is that AMDs use CPU throttling > unless you disable that, for example. I bet that's reading temps from > the SPI buses. What happens if you stop SPI then? Well, computer > science can be > experimental. > > On Wed, May 29, 2019, 6:34 PM Gene

Re: A couple things yet on stretch install, amd64 version

2019-05-30 Thread Gene Heskett
still need to stop/disable it. Killed it with htop, we'll see > > what else dies. But while htop can see it, its not in /etc/init.d > > nor in a systemctl display. So whats starting it? Enquiring minds still > > want to know. > > Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There ar

gkrellm vs gkweather plugin

2019-06-02 Thread Gene Heskett
Greetings al; gkrellm's weather pluggin worked flawlessly for wheezy, doesn't work on stretch. I just re-installed it all and I am still looking at the weather from kckb for 7 may, the last day I ran wheezy. What should I check next? Thanks. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There ar

Re: gkrellm vs gkweather plugin

2019-06-02 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 02 June 2019 04:12:07 pm Ulf Volmer wrote: > On 02.06.19 21:35, Gene Heskett wrote: > > gkrellm's weather pluggin worked flawlessly for wheezy, doesn't work > > on stretch. I just re-installed it all and I am still looking at the > > weather from kck

tea4cups=printer screwup

2019-06-05 Thread Gene Heskett
on top of the stack. Sheesh. Surely the printer folks can do better than that. So its gone. Nuked. Removed. Deleted. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Gene

Re: Replacing Pulseaudio with Alsa alone

2019-06-05 Thread Gene Heskett
re. I am not sure if alsa can handle > this. Stretch, std FF, got sound, no pa stuff installed. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>

Re: USB digital microscope from Walmart

2019-06-05 Thread Gene Heskett
one of these working under Debian? > This one claims 1000x magnification and the supplier is E4. They > don't answer the phone and email correspondence has so far prove > useless. > Thanks, > Mike Thats probably why wallies has it. Got it at bankruptcy sale Cheers, Gene Heskett

Re: tea4cups=printer screwup

2019-06-05 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 05 June 2019 03:10:37 pm Brian wrote: > On Wed 05 Jun 2019 at 13:41:48 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > Greetings all; > > > > I just removed tea4cups, totally. Why? It totally screws up a print > > job. > > It's liable to do that when the user is

What is agetty, and why can't it be stopped?

2019-06-05 Thread Gene Heskett
s truly hung, but I can count those instances on one hand with fingers left over in the 21 years I have been a linux only house. Thanks all; Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed H

logging Q's for stretch

2019-06-05 Thread Gene Heskett
n xxx" watching it is stuck looking at the old file, whereas I could just leave it run for a couple months and the "tail" would also remain current but now I am lucky to get 3 days before the display is hung again I'd like to fix both problems if possible. How on stretch? Cheers

Re: What is agetty, and why can't it be stopped?

2019-06-06 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 06 June 2019 03:22:02 am to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Wed, Jun 05, 2019 at 10:04:09PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > [agetty] > > People have given very useful answers, so I'll restrict myself > to some history. > > Gene, you've been wasting your time

Re: What is agetty, and why can't it be stopped?

2019-06-06 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 06 June 2019 07:39:02 am Erik Christiansen wrote: > On 06.06.19 07:14, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > # Example how to put a getty on a serial line (for a terminal) > > > # > > > #T0:23:respawn:/sbin/getty -L ttyS0 9600 vt100 > > > #T1:23:

Re: logging Q's for stretch

2019-06-06 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 06 June 2019 08:27:28 am Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Wed, Jun 05, 2019 at 10:25:07PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > So syslog is growing rapidly and gets rotated in just a day or so, > > and that means a "tail -fn xxx" watching it is stuck looking at the >

Re: What is agetty, and why can't it be stopped?

2019-06-06 Thread Gene Heskett
n for it to sit > > around holding memory. > > Makes sense, yes. > Thanks Tomas Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>

Re: What is agetty, and why can't it be stopped?

2019-06-06 Thread Gene Heskett
> > systemctl edit getty@.service Might be, but the dead keyboard hit it 30 minutes back so I rebooted and now its normal. I need a near beer. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>

Re: What is agetty, and why can't it be stopped?

2019-06-06 Thread Gene Heskett
t; ... > >> > >> I think the first place I'd look is: > >> > >> man logind.conf > >> Nothing of use there. > >> there may be something there to help you figure it out. Then look > >> into override if necessary with something like

Re: What is agetty, and why can't it be stopped?

2019-06-07 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 07 June 2019 06:24:00 am Jonathan Dowland wrote: > On Fri, Jun 07, 2019 at 01:23:45AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > >Not getting anyplace so far, but the reboot has given me only one > > agetty running on tty1, which looks like exactly > >what /etc/systemd/system/get

Re: What is agetty, and why can't it be stopped?

2019-06-07 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 07 June 2019 11:58:47 am Michael Stone wrote: > On Wed, Jun 05, 2019 at 10:04:09PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > >grepping thru /etc does not seem to find any hits, so I've no clue > > whats starting it. > > Did you happen to tell the kernel that ttyS0 w

Re: What is agetty, and why can't it be stopped?

2019-06-07 Thread Gene Heskett
of it until you mentioned it. > > ⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀ > > ⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ Jonathan Dowland > > ⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ https://jmtd.net > > ⠈⠳⣄ Please do not CC me, I am subscribed to the list. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and a

Re: What is agetty, and why can't it be stopped?

2019-06-07 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 07 June 2019 03:25:53 pm Nicholas Geovanis wrote: > You know Gene, I used to take the vacuum tubes to Walgreens to test > them in the tube-tester right by the front door ;-) > Gene OM, Google the Crystal Set Society ;-) I had one of those when I was about 10yo. Worked fa

Re: What is agetty, and why can't it be stopped?

2019-06-07 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 07 June 2019 03:28:57 pm Jonathan Dowland wrote: > On Fri, Jun 07, 2019 at 11:48:17AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > >Neither can I and this "service" is not a familiar term since this is > > my first expedition into systemd territory. > > Try the systemd.

Re: What is agetty, and why can't it be stopped?

2019-06-07 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 07 June 2019 10:00:48 pm Michael Stone wrote: > On Fri, Jun 07, 2019 at 09:31:42PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > >On Friday 07 June 2019 11:58:47 am Michael Stone wrote: > >> On Wed, Jun 05, 2019 at 10:04:09PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > >> >grepping thru

Re: What is agetty, and why can't it be stopped?

2019-06-08 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 08 June 2019 01:18:21 am deloptes wrote: > Gene Heskett wrote: > > BOOT_IMAGE=/vmlinuz-4.9.0-9-rt-amd64 > > root=UUID=0e698024-1cf3-4dbc-812d-10552c01caab ro > > Gene, > I can barely follow your problems with Stretch. I am just amazed how > this could be th

Re: What is agetty, and why can't it be stopped?

2019-06-08 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 08 June 2019 04:55:45 am to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Fri, Jun 07, 2019 at 09:44:23PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > [...] > > > But first you need to know the name of the man page. You can't read > > it if you don't know its true name... > >

Re: What is agetty, and why can't it be stopped?

2019-06-08 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 08 June 2019 10:20:09 am deloptes wrote: > Gene Heskett wrote: > > It could be. And the linuxcnc developers/spinners are being made > > aware of these problem's also.  That particular kernel you see above > > I will state, has the best latency figure

Re: What is agetty, and why can't it be stopped?

2019-06-09 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 09 June 2019 03:18:20 am Erik Christiansen wrote: > On 08.06.19 11:28, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Saturday 08 June 2019 10:20:09 am deloptes wrote: > > > Did you try running this without systemd? I recall you mentioned > > > somewhere you removed it > >

Re: Privacy policy of packages/softwares installed in Debian

2019-06-10 Thread Gene Heskett
not think debian could be said to have been harmed by such an action a year later. > Cheers > [0] https://www.debian.org/social_contract > > [1] In one case, a web app testing package, there was even a >comment in there "please, leave this in, since that's how >w

Re: What is agetty, and why can't it be stopped?

2019-06-10 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 10 June 2019 04:46:33 am Curt wrote: > On 2019-06-06, Gene Heskett wrote: > > What do I do next to get rid of this nearly invisible agetty gizmo > > once this machine is booted? It might be handy if this machine is > > truly hung, but I can count those insta

Re: What is agetty, and why can't it be stopped?

2019-06-10 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 10 June 2019 09:44:36 am Curt wrote: > On 2019-06-10, Gene Heskett wrote: > >> Maybe > >> > >> sudo systemctl stop serial-getty@ttyS0.service > >> > >> if you haven't already tried it. > > > > No, after a reboot, I

Re: Privacy policy of packages/softwares installed in Debian

2019-06-10 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 10 June 2019 11:17:04 am to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Mon, Jun 10, 2019 at 06:43:17AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > [...] > > > I'm not a maintainer, just a user. > > > > And a instance of the above should result in the instant moving of > > tha

Re: Privacy policy of packages/softwares installed in Debian

2019-06-10 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 10 June 2019 01:00:58 pm John Hasler wrote: > Gene writes: > > All of that I'm well aware of Tomas. So yes "should" is a bit > > stronger sounding than I intended. But at my thinkers age, I'd like > > to think I have sense enough left to know m

web page problem

2019-06-13 Thread Gene Heskett
the /sshnet access which is done as me, gene but on the pi, which is stuck by the raspian installer with pi as the first user, so its the same user number. But apache2 is running in its own sandbox and with dd-wrt standing guard at the gateway, I've no handy way around the NAT I use t

Re: web page problem

2019-06-13 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 13 June 2019 04:03:04 pm Felix Miata wrote: Alias   /urlDebSub/ "/LocalPathHostingTheDebs/" I've done that to /etc apache2/apache2.conf, and restarted it. Then because the web servers root page is at /var/www/html, and gene is the head of the data, I touched urlDeb

Re: web page problem

2019-06-13 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 13 June 2019 05:09:35 pm Felix Miata wrote: > Gene Heskett composed on 2019-06-13 16:44 (UTC-0400): > > Felix Miata wrote: > > > > Alias   /urlDebSub/ "/LocalPathHostingTheDebs/" > > > > I've done that to /etc apache2/apache2.conf

Re: Fetchmail not working after upgrade to Debian 9.9 (Stretch)

2019-06-13 Thread Gene Heskett
> Thanks in advance. > Cheers. > Joe Aquilina > Joe Aquilina > PO Box 819 Morley WA 69430428 216 069 > joeaquil...@westnet.com.au -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable. - Louis D. Brandeis Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>

Re: Fetchmail not working after upgrade to Debian 9.9 (Stretch)

2019-06-14 Thread Gene Heskett
ocal_smtp_server" > > >>    mda "/usr/bin/procmail -d %T" > > >> > > >> We have a near identical machine here at work, that has been > > >> running Debian 9 for some time, and it is collecting emails from > > >> the relev

Re: web page problem

2019-06-14 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 14 June 2019 08:46:51 am Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Thu, Jun 13, 2019 at 06:11:03PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > looks good, but the problem is, only gene=user 1000 has any rights > > to follow that path, so this access must be done as gene, not the > > default

Re: web page problem

2019-06-14 Thread Gene Heskett
he headaches and hassles of managing group permissions and > umasks and so on. (However, those headaches may return if you are > trying to allow multiple people administrative access to the content. > That's a separate issue.) And as long as I am still sucking air, I am the lone

Re: web page problem

2019-06-14 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 14 June 2019 09:04:50 am Joe wrote: > On Fri, 14 Jun 2019 14:58:05 +0200 > > wrote: > > On Fri, Jun 14, 2019 at 08:46:51AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > On Thu, Jun 13, 2019 at 06:11:03PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > looks good, but the pro

Re: Fetchmail not working after upgrade to Debian 9.9 (Stretch)

2019-06-16 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 16 June 2019 09:44:02 pm Joe Aquilina wrote: > On 14/6/19 5:09 pm, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Friday 14 June 2019 01:06:16 am Joe Aquilina wrote: > >>>>> On Thursday 13 June 2019 09:58:39 pm Joe Aquilina wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>

Re: IPv4 v IPv6

2019-06-17 Thread Gene Heskett
ke ssh work to a win-10-home edition box. Thats a rarely used hookup at best. Presently the hosts file duplicated on all machines fill's this requirement. These are the questions I'll need to address if and when ipv6 shows up on my side of the router. And the wiki pages I've

Re: IPv4 v IPv6

2019-06-17 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 17 June 2019 10:54:19 am Dan Ritter wrote: > Gene Heskett wrote: > > But that opens yet another container of worms. If I arbitrarily > > assign ipv6 local addresses, and later, ipv6 shows up at my side of > > the router, what if I have an address clash with someo

Re: IPv4 v IPv6

2019-06-17 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 17 June 2019 10:54:19 am Dan Ritter wrote: > Gene Heskett wrote: > > But that opens yet another container of worms. If I arbitrarily > > assign ipv6 local addresses, and later, ipv6 shows up at my side of > > the router, what if I have an address clash with someo

Re: IPv4 v IPv6

2019-06-17 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 17 June 2019 11:39:12 am Curt Howland wrote: > On Monday 17 June 2019, Gene Heskett was heard > > to say: > > How is that resolved, by unroutable address blocks such > > as 192.168.xx.xx is now? > > Yes, IPv6 does have such allocations. The first 64bits i

Re: IPv4 v IPv6

2019-06-17 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 17 June 2019 01:00:53 pm Dan Ritter wrote: > Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Monday 17 June 2019 10:54:19 am Dan Ritter wrote: > > > > I have for eth0, two scope global addresses in a new stretch install > > of an r-pi-3b, one from avahi and one from e/n/i.d/eth0,

Re: IPv4 v IPv6

2019-06-17 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 17 June 2019 01:00:53 pm Dan Ritter wrote: > Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Monday 17 June 2019 10:54:19 am Dan Ritter wrote: > > > > I have for eth0, two scope global addresses in a new stretch install > > of an r-pi-3b, one from avahi and one from e/n/i.d/eth0,

Re: SOLVED was IPv4 v IPv6 discussion that went off the rails.

2019-06-17 Thread Gene Heskett
ozen reboots now. Many thanks to all who tried to help. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectabl

Re: IPv4 v IPv6

2019-06-17 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 17 June 2019 02:24:47 pm John Hasler wrote: > Gene Heskett wrote: > > But that opens yet another container of worms. If I arbitrarily > > assign ipv6 local addresses, and later, ipv6 shows up at my side of > > the router, what if I have an address clash with someo

Re: IPv4 v IPv6

2019-06-17 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 17 June 2019 07:59:51 pm rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > On Monday, June 17, 2019 01:05:54 PM Gene Heskett wrote: > > I am lucky, my ISP uses the connecting MAC to translate to a fixed > > ipv4, that has not changed in 6 years. So my web page address in my > > sig has n

Re: Giving remaja (teens) group full administrator privileges through sudo - dangerous?

2019-06-20 Thread Gene Heskett
eir creativity still needs a final approval by someone with that letter giving then the power to say no. And likely an IT guy smart enough to stay ahead of their attempts to climb that fence. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury

Re: Giving remaja (teens) group full administrator privileges through sudo - dangerous?

2019-06-21 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 21 June 2019 15:41:00 Carl Fink wrote: > On 6/20/19 12:36 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Thursday 20 June 2019 08:30:57 Bagas Sanjaya wrote: > >> In hypothetical scenario as I described in the starting of this > >> thread, I imagine that TV program

Re: Giving remaja (teens) group full administrator privileges through sudo - dangerous?

2019-06-22 Thread Gene Heskett
es I have been in charge of, have never been assessed such a fine. I may arrive in the morning to find news has smashed up every camera they have, but that stuff gets checked before I go ripping cameras apart to repair them. Most camera repairs were a piece of cake for me. Cheers, Gene Heskett

Re: Giving remaja (teens) group full administrator privileges through sudo - dangerous?

2019-06-22 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 22 June 2019 04:02:11 Curt wrote: > On 2019-06-22, Gene Heskett wrote: > >> You seem to be assuming that Mr. Banjaya is in the USA. While that > >> is not impossible, given the Javanese name and non-USA usage of > >> English, I suspect that it is not c

Re: IPv4 v IPv6

2019-06-22 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 22 June 2019 15:34:52 Andy Smith wrote: > On Fri, Jun 21, 2019 at 10:01:47PM -0500, David Wright wrote: > > On Wed 19 Jun 2019 at 04:23:15 (+1200), Richard Hector wrote: > > > On 19/06/19 4:12 AM, David Wright wrote: > > > > On Mon 17 Jun 2019 at 10:38:

Re: IPv4 v IPv6

2019-06-22 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 22 June 2019 17:32:54 John Hasler wrote: > Gene writes: > > He no doubt has to buy the block of ipv6 addresses before his dhcpd > > v6 can pass them out. > > No one buys IPv6 addresses. There is no competition for them. They > are allocated, and your ISP almo

Re: IPv4 v IPv6

2019-06-22 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 22 June 2019 22:49:36 John Hasler wrote: > Gene writes: > > Well, I'd expect there is a registration fee... > > From https://www.arin.net/resources/fees/fee_schedule/ > > Internet Service Providers (ISPs) > > Internet Service Providers (ISPs

Re: Is it possible to install Debian in such a case.

2019-06-27 Thread Gene Heskett
th a small screwdriver, open that lappy and check all the aluminum cans for bulging where the scratches are across the tops. And if possible since the psu bricks are well sealed, try a fresh psu. If the cans have bulged tops, that's a sure sign the electrical characteristic called ESR

Re: IPv4 v IPv6

2019-06-27 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 27 June 2019 16:37:20 Dennis Wicks wrote: > Gene Heskett wrote on 6/17/19 11:49 AM: > > On Monday 17 June 2019 10:54:19 am Dan Ritter wrote: > > [big snip!] And short of commenting every > > > line in /e/i.d/avahi-* out, I don't know how to stop

Re: Is it possible to install Debian in such a case.

2019-06-28 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 28 June 2019 02:14:42 deloptes wrote: > Gene Heskett wrote: > > There was a period a decade back where the capacitors > > were legendarily bad.  Your unit may have some of them in it. > > It was around 2004. From a trustful source I understood that the > Chi

Re: Function similar to {apt-cache recurse ...}?

2019-06-28 Thread Gene Heskett
nihilo, so to speak). > > > > Explicitly *YES*! > > It's nice to have someone actually read what I write ;) > > Except it's kind of turtles all the way down, isn't it? As far as we can see. After some hundreds of feet its too dark to see. Cheers, Gene Heskett

Re: Is it possible to install Debian in such a case.

2019-06-29 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 29 June 2019 19:05:23 deloptes wrote: > Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Friday 28 June 2019 02:14:42 deloptes wrote: > >> Gene Heskett wrote: > >> > There was a period a decade back where the capacitors > >> > were legendarily bad.  Your unit may

Re: Document removal of ecryptfs-utils from Buster

2019-06-30 Thread Gene Heskett
> Buster to then just discover that their system is completely broken. > > Grüße, > Sven. At this point, I'd call it a buster delaying bug. That last is going to cost too many that can't ignore it and don't have unencrypted backups. Thats going to be a lot of very bad

Re: Document removal of ecryptfs-utils from Buster

2019-07-01 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 01 July 2019 03:52:55 Jonathan Dowland wrote: > On Sun, Jun 30, 2019 at 12:45:57PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > >At this point, I'd call it a buster delaying bug. That last is going > > to cost too many that can't ignore it and don't have unencrypted &g

Re: Document removal of ecryptfs-utils from Buster

2019-07-01 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 01 July 2019 09:14:07 Curt wrote: > On 2019-07-01, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Monday 01 July 2019 03:52:55 Jonathan Dowland wrote: > >> On Sun, Jun 30, 2019 at 12:45:57PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > >> >At this point, I'd call it a buster delaying

Re: Document removal of ecryptfs-utils from Buster

2019-07-01 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 01 July 2019 09:33:35 David Wright wrote: > On Mon 01 Jul 2019 at 06:05:52 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Monday 01 July 2019 03:52:55 Jonathan Dowland wrote: > > > On Sun, Jun 30, 2019 at 12:45:57PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > >At this point, I&#

Re: Document removal of ecryptfs-utils from Buster

2019-07-02 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 01 July 2019 19:42:08 David Wright wrote: > On Mon 01 Jul 2019 at 15:56:14 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Monday 01 July 2019 09:33:35 David Wright wrote: > > > On Mon 01 Jul 2019 at 06:05:52 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > On Monday 01 July

Re: armv7 vs buster problem #3

2019-07-03 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 03 July 2019 18:06:18 John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > Hi Gene! > > On 7/3/19 10:42 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > > Just one of the things its taken over. Now we have a different > > command to set the hostname too if you want it to stick over a > > reboot.

Re: armv7 vs buster problem #3

2019-07-03 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 03 July 2019 18:06:18 John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > Hi Gene! > > On 7/3/19 10:42 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > > Just one of the things its taken over. Now we have a different > > command to set the hostname too if you want it to stick over a > > reboot.

Re: Assorted arm-buster problems #1

2019-07-03 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 03 July 2019 16:12:31 Reco wrote: And Gene moved. Question unanswered yet. > Hi. > > On Wed, Jul 03, 2019 at 02:57:35PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > Regardless of what I do, I cannot get rid of the avahi junk in an ip > > a report, so my local 192.168.xx.

Re: armhf vs buster problem #2

2019-07-03 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 03 July 2019 17:08:05 Gene Heskett wrote: It was recommended I move these questions to the debian-user list, so here it is. > On Wednesday 03 July 2019 16:07:04 Andreas Jellinghaus wrote: > > No idea. Sorry if I missed a mail with the reasons why stock debian > >

Re: armv7 vs buster sudo complains about hostname or something

2019-07-04 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 04 July 2019 02:47:50 Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Mi, 03 iul 19, 20:26:48, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Wednesday 03 July 2019 18:06:18 John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > > > Hi Gene! > > > > > > On 7/3/19 10:42 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > > >

Re: Assorted arm-buster problems - network configuration

2019-07-04 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 04 July 2019 03:16:31 andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote: > On Mi, 03 iul 19, 21:03:19, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Wednesday 03 July 2019 16:12:31 Reco wrote: > > > > And Gene moved. Question unanswered yet. > > > > > Hi. > > > > &g

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