lname and
> $LOCALHOST. Is this so?
No. exim4 uses what is in /etec/mailname as the MAI FROM: (the envelope
from).
> These values are present:
>
> $ nano /etec/mailname
> lenin.histomat.net
lenin.histomat.net appears to be unrouteable. How a remote system would
deal with that is anyone's guess.
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On Wed 27 Apr 2022 at 15:38:21 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 27, 2022 at 01:42:05PM +0100, Brian wrote:
>
> [...]
>
> > lenin.histomat.net appears to be unrouteable. How a remote system would
>^^^
> > deal
es that you correctly typed your
> desired hostname at some point. Email certainly will not care.
Not entirely. Exim would use lenin.histomat.net as the (E)HELO.
A smaarthost wouls probably not care as it has authenticated
the sender. So, nothing to worry about.
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y as an HTTP proxy.
> I have tried a couple of options but when Debian tries to connect it fails.
> Communications is my weak point, so basic advice would be appreciated.
I have always left the answer to that question as blank. Are you sure
you need a proxy?
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..@historicalmaterialism.info
>
> The address hai...@histomat.net is owned by
> bro...@historicalmaterialism.info. Omnis mail server never had a
> problem with r...@histomat.net before.
The problem is not with the Omnis mail server. It did its job.
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the OSs
Your issue is with a devuan mail server. It should really be discussed
there. Just be thankful you are receiving some help.
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27.0.1.1 test.axis.corp HOSTNAME
and send a mail.
I would suggest
https://wiki.debian.org/PkgExim4UserFAQ#How_does_exim_find_out_its_host_name_to_use_in_HELO.2FEHLO.3F
as a reasonable source of information.
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free) drivers. Theses are proably your best
bet.
2. Use https://launchpad.net/~sane-project/+archive/ubuntu/sane-git. I
do not know how installation of such packages plays with buster.
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On Mon 02 May 2022 at 00:02:23 +0200, Dieter Rohlfing wrote:
> Am Sun, 1 May 2022 12:26:00 +0100
> schrieb Brian :
>
> >Download the Epson (non-free) drivers.
>
> Done. The ET-2711 is now recognized in buster and bullseye as locally
> connected scanner.
>
> I
On Tue 03 May 2022 at 23:47:44 +0200, Dieter Rohlfing wrote:
> Am Sun, 1 May 2022 12:26:00 +0100
> schrieb Brian :
>
> >you have a modern device (from about 2018) that does not support AirPrint
>
> Sorry, that's wrong.
Really?
AirPrint is not mentioned in the
On Wed 04 May 2022 at 11:51:06 +0200, Dieter Rohlfing wrote:
> Am Tue, 3 May 2022 23:19:17 +0100
> schrieb Brian :
>
> >AirPrint is not mentioned in the device's specifications at
> >
> >
> > https://www.epson.co.uk/products/printers/inkjet/consumer/eco
0|300dpi [300]
>
> seems you should have 1200dpi available.
> No idea why not
Hint: read *all* the posts in this short thread :).
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On Wed 04 May 2022 at 15:43:03 +0200, Dieter Rohlfing wrote:
> Am Wed, 4 May 2022 12:50:14 +0100
> schrieb Brian :
>
> >I wonder whether the net backend is required. What happens if the
> >entry is commented out?
>
> My fault: net was enabled, therefore I th
your
query would be interesting.
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On Wed 04 May 2022 at 14:42:15 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Wed, May 04, 2022 at 07:38:35PM +0100, Brian wrote:
> > My young childre read -user. They asked me what "wtf" means. Please,
> > explain, for the benefit of us civilised and acronymn-challenged
>
d email from mailing lists. I am using
> fetchmail to get emails from google. Now it says it will discontinue this
> access to my mail,
Where does google say that?
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On Wed 11 May 2022 at 19:04:01 +0100, mick crane wrote:
> On 2022-05-11 18:51, Brian wrote:
> > On Wed 11 May 2022 at 15:25:34 +0200, Fero Dali wrote:
> >
> > > I got a warning from google that my account will be discontinued.
> >
>
> > Where does go
On Wed 11 May 2022 at 20:09:14 +0200, Fero Dali wrote:
> On Wed, May 11, 2022 at 7:51 PM Brian wrote:
> > On Wed 11 May 2022 at 15:25:34 +0200, Fero Dali wrote:
> > > I got a warning from google that my account will be discontinued.
> >
> > No, you didn't.
be very
> grateful.
No need to stop using gmail. Use gmx. Forward gmail's mail to there.
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On Wed 11 May 2022 at 20:52:22 +0200, Fero Dali wrote:
> On Wed, May 11, 2022 at 8:20 PM Brian wrote:
> > No need to stop using gmail. Use gmx. Forward gmail's mail to there.
>
> Thank you for suggesting this, but unfortunately it is not available to me.
> On th
On Fri 13 May 2022 at 08:42:21 -0400, Michael Stone wrote:
> On Fri, May 13, 2022 at 07:16:11AM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> > A loong password is not "equivalent" to 2FA, that's right. Good
> > password management (of which length is but a part) is as secure
> > as 2FA.
>
> No, it really isn
On Fri 13 May 2022 at 20:01:20 +0200, Kamil Jońca wrote:
> Brian writes:
>
> > On Fri 13 May 2022 at 08:42:21 -0400, Michael Stone wrote:
> >
> >> On Fri, May 13, 2022 at 07:16:11AM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> >> > A loong password is not
nt
> key armor, etc.), less important ones (e.g. local login) just 8.
Let me introduce you to my bank: they reduced the maximum 20 chars
to 16 and did not allow some special chars such as "!" and ".".
Mind you, I feel much more secure - 3FA is used :).
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ches
>
> https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/05/how-crackers-make-minced-meat-out-of-your-passwords/
The time to brute force a hash depends on password entropy. The
second link is an interesting read, but I do not think evrything
in a cracker's garden is rosy. One can only hope providers use
decentt hashing techniques and keep data safe.
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r, providing
a high entropy password is not. If accessing a site is of importance
to him, then, in your plausible scenario, an eight character password
effectively gives little security.
That is not an argument for 2FA but for a user having a responsible
password policy to guard agains such breaches.
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On Sat 14 May 2022 at 15:21:06 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> On Sat, May 14, 2022 at 12:42:28PM +0100, Brian wrote:
> > On Sat 14 May 2022 at 07:23:47 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
[...]
> > > [strong, unique, random]
> > >
> > > That's it. The
On Sat 14 May 2022 at 15:21:06 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> On Sat, May 14, 2022 at 12:42:28PM +0100, Brian wrote:
[...]
> > Let me introduce you to my bank: they reduced the maximum 20 chars
> > to 16 and did not allow some special chars such as "!" and ".&qu
On Sat 14 May 2022 at 20:51:14 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> On Sat, May 14, 2022 at 07:43:08PM +0100, Brian wrote:
> > On Sat 14 May 2022 at 15:21:06 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
>
> [FIVE blades!1!!]
>
> > I have just realised that PayPal does 5FA. It meets the
ely, some of my
> other accounts (like Youtube) rely on that email address. Can't move
> it, can't remove it. Strategically, Google = Microsoft = Adobe = Apple.
> Same crap, different brand.
Keep the gmail address and just forward from there to an address
ypu control.
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t thinks fit. Even if this
> isn't explicit in T&Cs I'm quite sure it's normal practice. I think the
> only way to avoid this is not to let your incoming email sit in anyone
> else's server i.e. to run an MTA. This is independent of domain
> ownership.
Sending an email is equivalent to sending a postcard via Royal
Mail. Any machines through which the mail passes have access to
its contents. It is inherent in the system. Encryption, anyone?
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Brian.
On Sun 15 May 2022 at 22:39:14 -0500, David Wright wrote:
> On Sat 14 May 2022 at 14:02:36 (+0100), Brian wrote:
> > On Sat 14 May 2022 at 12:02:49 -, Curt wrote:
> > > On 2022-05-14, wrote:
> > > > On Sat, May 14, 2022 a
Shell, type "passwd root".
Depends on whta you mean by "Ubuntu". Its mini.iso offers settong a root
password. I wonder whether the regular ISO can be preseeded?
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Brian.
On Sat 21 May 2022 at 12:24:04 +0100, Tixy wrote:
> On Fri, 2022-05-20 at 18:44 +0100, Brian wrote:
> > On Thu 19 May 2022 at 20:24:50 -0400, Kenneth Parker wrote:
> >
> > [...]
> >
> > > Note, Debian (at least in the Expert Installation Mode) lets me set a R
htest desktop? Default, XFCE or LXDE...?
Lightest? In terms of disk space used?
apt install task-xfce-desktop
apt unstall take-gnome-desktop
apt unstall xfce4
etc
Lool at the additional disk space to be used.
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Brian.
ed. No OAUTH2 or 2FA at this site. Whatever Google intended
the situation to be after May 30th, it appears the interpretation by
some users of their mail was off the mark.
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Brian.
On Wed 01 Jun 2022 at 10:44:17 -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote:
> On Wed, 1 Jun 2022 18:04:02 +0100
> Brian wrote:
>
> > On Thu 12 May 2022 at 10:08:01 -, Virgo Pärna wrote:
> >
> > > On Wed, 11 May 2022 20:09:14 +0200, Fero Dali
> > > wrote:
>
rimental regime?
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On Fri 10 Jun 2022 at 19:38:22 +, Jonathan Wiebe wrote:
> I need a pointer as to how to file a bug against the Debian website.
File against www.debian.org.
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Brian.
er)
Use of Qt apps does not involve installing KDE.
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Brian.
On Sat 11 Jun 2022 at 18:08:24 +0800, lou wrote:
> On 6/11/22 4:57 PM, Brian wrote:
>
> > You may want wpagui, a graphical frontend for wpasupplicant.
>
> > Use of Qt apps does not involve installing KDE.
>
>
> Thanks, but i use ifup/ifdown (not wpasupplicant)
e and concerned?
Me? I'm just along for the ride and, in the meantime, have installed
Debian on another three machines. If *I* was on my 26th attempt I would
be beginning to think of another approach.
But the OP is the OP. Keeping at it will get nowhere.
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Brian.
On Tue 14 Jun 2022 at 13:15:56 +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote:
> On 2022-06-11 19:10:09 +0800, lou wrote:
> > On 6/11/22 7:00 PM, Brian wrote:
> > >
> > > You are associating with a wireless access point. You must be using
> > > wpasupplicant. Have you trie
ght have caused /etc/passwd to become
> screwed up in installation #31.
"...appropriate places" is about as fuzzy as it gets. The user appears
to have been put is group lp. This is completely unwanted as it opens
up a security hole. Thank goodness the OP is not managing my machines
(or my TV reception capabilities :) ).
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On Wed 15 Jun 2022 at 09:43:50 +0300, Reco wrote:
> Hi.
>
> On Wed, Jun 15, 2022 at 03:30:53AM +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote:
> > On 2022-06-14 15:43:40 +0100, Brian wrote:
> > > On Tue 14 Jun 2022 at 13:15:56 +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote:
> > >
On Wed 15 Jun 2022 at 11:16:40 +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote:
> On 2022-06-15 00:19:54 -0500, David Wright wrote:
> > On Wed 15 Jun 2022 at 03:30:53 (+0200), Vincent Lefevre wrote:
> > > On 2022-06-14 15:43:40 +0100, Brian wrote:
> > > > On Tue 14 Jun 2022 at 13:15:5
On Wed 15 Jun 2022 at 12:45:23 +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote:
> On 2022-06-15 10:32:58 +0100, Brian wrote:
> > On Wed 15 Jun 2022 at 11:16:40 +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote:
> > > The OP wanted an X11 app, while iwlist and nmcli are just command-line
> > > utilities (tho
On Wed 15 Jun 2022 at 13:38:06 +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote:
> On 2022-06-15 12:14:19 +0100, Brian wrote:
> > On Wed 15 Jun 2022 at 12:45:23 +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote:
> >
> > > On 2022-06-15 10:32:58 +0100, Brian wrote:
> > > > On Wed 15 Jun 2022 at 1
On Wed 15 Jun 2022 at 10:43:14 -0700, Gary L. Roach wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I just purchased an Epson ET-3850 tank printer. I set up the printer with
> Cups as usual.
What does "as usual" involve?
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Brian.
. I don't thing
> anyone else does either.
Believe it or believe it not, there are other rechniques to set up a
print queue :).
A bullseye installation is assumed. What application was used to print?
A USB connection or wireless? Please give
lpstat -l -e
lpstat -t
lpoptions -p PRINT_QUEUE_NAME
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On Thu 16 Jun 2022 at 13:39:13 +0100, mick crane wrote:
> On 2022-06-16 13:31, Brian wrote:
>
> > Believe it or believe it not, there are other rechniques to set up a
> > print queue :).
>
> are these "rechniques" similar to the destructions ?
That is an inte
And I'd druther not install the rest of kde, its not stable
> for me.
Is this the first time you have tried this?
Go for another 32 times and you could get success :).
Just a suggestion, in the light of your recent experiences.
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Brian.
t from.
>
> try gphoto2 ?
The OP wants to use digikam. You have no advice on that?
> if camera is on list
> http://gphoto.org/proj/libgphoto2/support.php
> should you not be able to mount it as a filesystem ?
> I like geeqie for viewing images.
That really nice to know. It sorts out the digikam issue?
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our wiki should help with this.
> What is wrong? Why does the kernel see the correct printer, and where does it
> get its information? It is not connected at the USB-port, so no information
> could be taken from this.
The kernel is not involved in printer dicsovery. mdns/DNS-sd is.
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On Fri 17 Jun 2022 at 06:59:11 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 16, 2022 at 08:39:19PM +0100, Brian wrote:
>
> [...]
>
> > Is this the first time you have tried this?
> >
> > Go for another 32 times and you could get success :).
> >
> &g
On Fri 17 Jun 2022 at 13:57:00 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 17, 2022 at 12:53:02PM +0100, Brian wrote:
> > On Fri 17 Jun 2022 at 06:59:11 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> >
> > > On Thu, Jun 16, 2022 at 08:39:19PM +0100, Brian wrote:
> > >
>
again to find the upper
limit.
Attacments to a mailing list like -user are an efficient us of its
services. Ephemeral info on other sites isn't of any value to users
in the future.
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Brian.
On Fri 17 Jun 2022 at 21:28:15 +0200, Nicolas George wrote:
> Brian (12022-06-17):
> > Attacments to a mailing list like -user are an efficient us of its
> > services.
>
> Multiplying the storage space taken by an attachment by the thousands of
> users subscribed to th
group "lp" and "lpadmin", I believe, thesse are the only related ones.
It is not a rights problem. No user needs to be in group lp. It is a
security risk. Take them out of it.
> Any other ideas?
The present ideas are good enough :).
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n not confirm the reception or the computer is
> forbidding to print.
When you have set up a print queue as advised previously, test printing
with 'lp -d Brother2740 /etc/nsswitch.conf'.
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a give it the other model #.
> Wash, rinse, repeat.
This is good advice for a user with a legacy/classic printer. With a
modern printer (~2012 onwards) it can be completely ignored. Debian
bullseye will detect and automatically set up any such printers. The
non-free Brother drivers are redundant on today's printing system.
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Brian.
On Sun 19 Jun 2022 at 14:54:58 -0400, The Wanderer wrote:
> On 2022-06-19 at 14:50, Brian wrote:
>
> > On Sun 19 Jun 2022 at 08:48:43 -0400, gene heskett wrote:
>
> >> cups has an annoying habit of considering any printer it scanning
> >> protocol det
On Sun 19 Jun 2022 at 18:01:36 -0400, The Wanderer wrote:
> On 2022-06-19 at 15:47, Brian wrote:
>
> > On Sun 19 Jun 2022 at 14:54:58 -0400, The Wanderer wrote:
> >
> >> On 2022-06-19 at 14:50, Brian wrote:
>
> >>> What does being "precious"
On Mon 20 Jun 2022 at 09:28:30 -0400, The Wanderer wrote:
> On 2022-06-20 at 08:59, Brian wrote:
>
> > On Sun 19 Jun 2022 at 18:01:36 -0400, The Wanderer wrote:
> >
> >> On 2022-06-19 at 15:47, Brian wrote:
>
> >>> You (or the OP) would have to
On Mon 20 Jun 2022 at 12:34:19 -0400, The Wanderer wrote:
> On 2022-06-20 at 12:01, Brian wrote:
>
> > "...once the URIis known"? What mechaism does that? Incidentally, a
> > URI is required to query a printer for its attributes.
>
> Any of a number of mechani
On Mon 20 Jun 2022 at 19:49:18 +0100, Brian wrote:
Please forget about this mai. I pressed the wrong key. Never done that
before!
> On Mon 20 Jun 2022 at 12:34:19 -0400, The Wanderer wrote:
>
> > On 2022-06-20 at 12:01, Brian wrote:
> >
> > > "...once the URIis
put it in a
> reader.
>
> Questions to this list have not been helpful.
You said it :)! How about the answers?
> What mailing list do I complain on?
https://www.digikam.org/support/
But you do not neend to moan or complain. Act out of character
and request help in a reasonable way :).
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rinter at all.
>
> So how do I disable the driverless junk? Is that a separate package
> that is removable? cups doesn't even offer to disable this
> non-working garbage. Thanks for any good clues.
Driverless printing is only possible when avahi-daemon is on the
system. Your solution is obvious.
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rinter, then the driverless
> connection will be PROBABLY default to PCL5e/PCL6, (or maybe ipp,)
> which the modern Brother printers support.
* PCL5e/PCL6 are not driverless PDLs and both are irrelevant.
* ipp is a protocol. Absolutely nothing to do with PCL5e/PCL6.
(But ipp is essential for driverless printing).
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>
> Out of interest, which model printer(s) has the issue?
>
> There are options in
>
> /etc/cups/cupsd.conf
>
> to disable automatic queue creation for autodetected IPP/dns-sd/etc/etc
> printers.
No such options exist in cupsd.conf.
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On Wed 13 Jul 2022 at 16:10:56 -0400, gene heskett wrote:
> On 7/13/22 15:14, Brian wrote:
> > On Wed 13 Jul 2022 at 13:21:07 -0400, gene heskett wrote:
> >
> > [Broken lines mended to give a readable original post.]
> >
> Blame that in tbird.
Yet another part
On Wed 13 Jul 2022 at 21:31:24 -0400, gene heskett wrote:
> On 7/13/22 19:27, Brian wrote:
> > On Wed 13 Jul 2022 at 16:10:56 -0400, gene heskett wrote:
> >
> > > On 7/13/22 15:14, Brian wrote:
> > > > On Wed 13 Jul 2022 at 13:21:07 -0400, gene heskett w
On Thu 14 Jul 2022 at 11:56:10 -0400, gene heskett wrote:
> On 7/14/22 05:19, Brian wrote:
> > On Wed 13 Jul 2022 at 21:31:24 -0400, gene heskett wrote:
> >
> > > On 7/13/22 19:27, Brian wrote:
> > > > On Wed 13 Jul 2022 at 16:10:56 -0400, gene heskett wrote:
specified ISO got somehow out of sync
> with what is available in the default mirror?
>
> [1] https://wiki.debian.org/DebianUnstable
> [2] deb.debian.org
Is the mini.iso at
http://ftp.nl.debian.org/debian/dists/bullseye/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/
any use?
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Brian.
>
On Sat 16 Jul 2022 at 20:56:51 +0100, Piscium wrote:
> On Sat, 16 Jul 2022 at 19:49, Brian wrote:
> >
> > On Sat 16 Jul 2022 at 18:27:29 +0100, Piscium wrote:
>
> > > [1] https://wiki.debian.org/DebianUnstable
> > > [2] deb.debian.org
> >
> > fine.
> > :-)
> >
> I have now got ssmtp installed.
>
> I edited the sources.list file to an example I found for Buster,
> replacing Buster with Bullseye.
It is possible that by doing this you have produced a suboptimal
sources.list. You could show the content.
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Brian.
(mine does). Not
printing a self-test page has nothing do with the printing system
or Debian. It is a entirely a function of the printer itself.
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Brian.
...that perhaps should have been...
>
> sudo lpinfo -v
lpinfo is not in a user's path. Use /usr/sbin/lpinfo.
The main point is that self-checking is a printer function, not a
printing system function. The question does not have an answer within
Debian.
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Brian.
On Fri 05 Aug 2022 at 19:54:38 +1000, David wrote:
[...]
> However archived repo snapshots are available via here:
> https://snapshot.debian.org/
> which looks like it has sssd packages for wheezy.
There is also http://archive.debian.org/debian/.
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Brian.
://archive.debian.org/debian/dists/wheezy/contrib/source/Sources 403
> > Forbidden
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 05, 2022 at 11:10:18AM +0100, Brian wrote:
> > There is also http://archive.debian.org/debian/.
>
>
> I think the question is, "Why isn
gt;
>
> So does the OP.
In my case being half asleep doesn't help :).
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On Fri 05 Aug 2022 at 18:30:16 +, Andy Smith wrote:
> Hello,
>
> On Fri, Aug 05, 2022 at 12:27:19PM -0400, Timothy M Butterworth wrote:
> > On Fri, Aug 5, 2022 at 8:20 AM Brian wrote:
> > > W: GPG error: http://archive.debian.org/debian wheezy Release: The
&g
.
A password is required for decrypting passwords.enc. *M05o05m19m19a?
would do nicely. Just a single password to remember. It couldn't get
simpler.
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Brian.
r ok, but encrypted in a file
is not? I do not have any trivial passwords; all are important. Copy
and paste may be dispensed with.
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up in the swiss-army penknife, busybox. Perhaps just be
> patient and let the d-i "close".
The OP is experienced with preseeding and is aware of late_command.
All he has to do is apply his knowledge.
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erring to package maintainers declaring Depends on other
> packages where it should be just a Recommends, do note it is often a
> side effect of users disabling automatic installation of Recommends and
> then complaining about missing functionality.
I believe the OP is referring to debootstrap's inability to install only
Depends:.
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fault is is not specified. It could, of course, be anything. Maybe
the user does not want this particular distribution's default. I do not
think this is nit-picking.
I do not agree with Marco Möller that the first line is redundant, but,
if it specified that the Debian desktop environment was Xfce, it is
possible it would give some clarity. OTOH, if it was decided not to have
a default desktop, the first line could go.
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Brian.
gainst debian-installer (or
> tasksel?).
>
> Providing a patch increases the chances of having the change accepted.
What is the purpose of "(default)" as part of the Gnome entry?
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On Sat 12 Sep 2020 at 11:49:18 +0100, mick crane wrote:
> On 2020-09-12 10:53, Brian wrote:
> > On Sat 12 Sep 2020 at 12:33:56 +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> >
> > > On Vi, 11 sep 20, 22:47:06, Fabrice BAUZAC-STEHLY wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I'v
On Sat 12 Sep 2020 at 19:19:50 +0100, mick crane wrote:
> On 2020-09-12 18:42, Brian wrote:
> > On Sat 12 Sep 2020 at 11:49:18 +0100, mick crane wrote:
> >
> > > On 2020-09-12 10:53, Brian wrote:
> > > > On Sat 12 Sep 2020 at 12:33:56 +0300, Andrei POPESCU wr
On Sat 12 Sep 2020 at 13:47:04 -0500, David Wright wrote:
> On Sat 12 Sep 2020 at 19:19:50 (+0100), mick crane wrote:
> > On 2020-09-12 18:42, Brian wrote:
> > > On Sat 12 Sep 2020 at 11:49:18 +0100, mick crane wrote:
> > > > On 2020-09-12 10:53, Brian wrote:
> &g
oice) would just go away.
> Let users select GNOME or KDE or whatever they actually want.
Suppose a user installs with base-installer/install-recommends set to
false. With the Debian desktop environment being the only option ticked,
a user would not install task-gnome-desktop but would get xorg and
enough software to use X. The suggested scheme would not cater for this.
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On Tue 15 Sep 2020 at 21:23:20 +0200, Fabrice BAUZAC-STEHLY wrote:
> Brian writes:
>
> > On Mon 14 Sep 2020 at 08:12:50 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> >
> > The Debian desktop environment installs task-desktop. This package
> > recommends desktop task packages. task-
s, installlng task-desktop. This proposal completely alters
the meaning of the present text and works against the purpose of
this portion the menu.
> > 3. add a default check by GNOME.
Suggested and countered in a number of previous posts.
> +1 -- that seems much clearer to me
It would be useful to know what needs clarifying.
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ective
that both of you are incapable of explaining and defending even after
the situation has been explained to you?
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On Thu 17 Sep 2020 at 22:36:31 +0200, Marco Möller wrote:
> On 17.09.20 20:58, Brian wrote:
> > On Thu 17 Sep 2020 at 09:29:35 +0200, Marco Möller wrote:
> >
> > > On 16.09.20 10:54, Richard Owlett wrote:
> > > > On 09/15/2020 06:50 PM, David Wright wrote:
On Thu 17 Sep 2020 at 16:07:56 -0400, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Thursday, September 17, 2020 02:58:19 PM Brian wrote:
> > On Thu 17 Sep 2020 at 09:29:35 +0200, Marco Möller wrote:
> > > On 16.09.20 10:54, Richard Owlett wrote:
> > > > On 09/15/202
with any of the DEs?
For task-mate-desktop:
Depends: tasksel (= 3.53), task-desktop, mate-desktop-environment,
lightdm
It is not possible to install only X.
I hope this helps in the exploration of the task selection menu and the
search for leanness.
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On Fri 18 Sep 2020 at 07:32:46 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 17, 2020 at 10:42:59PM +0100, Brian wrote:
> > The function of the menu is crystal clear.
> >
> > Activating as it as presented a user gets the ticked option.
> >
> > Unticking
; (When
> > I encounter a newbie, I recommend either KDE or one of the lightweight
> > desktops, I'm a "never GNOMEr"
>
> In my experience (own as well as assisting other newcomers), users
> coming from Windows or Mac will be surprised by the mere existence of
> different options here.
Indeed.
> Best to keep it as simple as possible.
Keep to what we have? Glad you agree.
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On Mon 21 Sep 2020 at 08:45:02 +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> On Sb, 19 sep 20, 20:41:05, Brian wrote:
> > On Sat 19 Sep 2020 at 14:12:08 +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> >
> > > Best to keep it as simple as possible.
> >
> > Keep to what we have? Glad you agre
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