How to compare one folder to one directory (was: How to compare contents of two folders against third one?)

2023-11-02 Thread Loris Bennett
writes: > I concur with Nicolas: every time you say "folder", a unicorn dies. What's the objection to 'folder'? I don't use it myself, but it seems fairly reasonable to me. Many desktop environments use an old hanging folder icon in their file browsers. In German there are also two words: 'Or

Re: How to compare contents of two folders against third one?

2023-11-02 Thread Alexander V. Makartsev
On 01.11.2023 22:55, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: I concur with Nicolas: every time you say "folder", a unicorn dies. If I say tater instead of potato would it also make you sad? Sorry to break it to you, but unicorns were extinct a long time ago, along with BBS', modems, MSDOS, ISA-VLB slots, jump

Re: Installing on Radxa Rock Pi 4B using SD-card-images

2023-11-02 Thread Nicolas George
y...@vienna.at (12023-11-02): > Why not try ARMbian? I ear with ARMbian you have to use Docker to build a kernel. That makes a pretty strong “why not ARMbian”. Regards, -- Nicolas George

Re: How to compare contents of two folders against third one?

2023-11-02 Thread Nicolas George
Alexander V. Makartsev (12023-11-02): > Rsync wasn't helpful in my case. It refused to recognize file names > properly, complaining about charset encoding, not even with --iconv > parameters. > Probably because of locale differences between my system and mounted > filesystems and who knows what els

Re: How to compare one folder to one directory (was: How to compare contents of two folders against third one?)

2023-11-02 Thread Reco
Hi. On Thu, Nov 02, 2023 at 07:50:16AM +0100, Loris Bennett wrote: > writes: > > > I concur with Nicolas: every time you say "folder", a unicorn dies. > > What's the objection to 'folder'? $ mkdir /tmp/4 $ stat /tmp/4 | head -2 File: /tmp/4 Size: 4096Blocks: 8

Re: Installing on Radxa Rock Pi 4B using SD-card-images

2023-11-02 Thread yxcv
On Thu, 2 Nov 2023 08:44:31 +0100 Nicolas George wrote: y...@vienna.at (12023-11-02): Why not try ARMbian? I ear with ARMbian you have to use Docker to build a kernel. That makes a pretty strong “why not ARMbian”. Regards, -- Nicolas George No

Re: How to compare contents of two folders against third one?

2023-11-02 Thread Russell L. Harris
fslint (no longer in Debian) and dupeguru may be of interest to you. I have used both. RLH

Re: How to compare one folder to one directory (was: How to compare contents of two folders against third one?)

2023-11-02 Thread tomas
On Thu, Nov 02, 2023 at 07:50:16AM +0100, Loris Bennett wrote: > writes: > > > I concur with Nicolas: every time you say "folder", a unicorn dies. > > What's the objection to 'folder'? I don't use it myself, but it seems > fairly reasonable to me. Many desktop environments use an old hanging >

Re: How to compare contents of two folders against third one?

2023-11-02 Thread DdB
Am 02.11.2023 um 08:36 schrieb Alexander V. Makartsev: > Rsync wasn't helpful in my case. It refused to recognize file names > properly, complaining about charset encoding, not even with --iconv > parameters. > Probably because of locale differences between my system and mounted > filesystems and w

Re: How to compare contents of two folders against third one?

2023-11-02 Thread tomas
On Thu, Nov 02, 2023 at 12:36:23PM +0500, Alexander V. Makartsev wrote: > On 01.11.2023 22:55, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > I concur with Nicolas: every time you say "folder", a unicorn dies. > > > If I say tater instead of potato would it also make you sad? > Sorry to break it to you, but unicorns

Re: report a Debian bug

2023-11-02 Thread gene heskett
On 11/2/23 01:46, David Christensen wrote: On 11/1/23 18:34, gene heskett wrote: So what i'm going to do next is transfer my /home, the whole MaryAnn from a 4 drive raid10 to a single 2T SSD,, and then switch /home from the raid to a single drive, thereby removing the raid10 from the culprit

Re: Installing on Radxa Rock Pi 4B using SD-card-images

2023-11-02 Thread Nicolas George
y...@vienna.at (12023-11-02): > > I ear with ARMbian you have to use Docker to build a kernel. That makes > > a pretty strong “why not ARMbian”. > No No what? No Docker is not necessary or no it is not a reason to ditch armbian? -- Nicolas George

Re: How to compare one folder to one directory (was: How to compare contents of two folders against third one?)

2023-11-02 Thread Michael Kjörling
On 2 Nov 2023 08:54 +0100, from to...@tuxteam.de: >> What's the objection to 'folder'? I don't use it myself, but it seems >> fairly reasonable to me. Many desktop environments use an old hanging >> folder icon in their file browsers. > > This is Microsoft jargon. Eek. I don't have a reference

Re: How to compare one folder to one directory (was: How to compare contents of two folders against third one?)

2023-11-02 Thread Nicolas George
Michael Kjörling (12023-11-02): > I don't have a reference handy, but I do distinctly recall reading > that Microsoft introduced the term "folder" specifically to also be > able to refer to a concept of "something which is _not_ a directory > but containing a collection of some kind of items". > >

Re: How to compare one folder to one directory (was: How to compare contents of two folders against third one?)

2023-11-02 Thread yxcv
On Thu, 2 Nov 2023 09:59:20 +0100 Nicolas George wrote: Michael Kjörling (12023-11-02): I don't have a reference handy, but I do distinctly recall reading that Microsoft introduced the term "folder" specifically to also be able to refer to a concept of "something which is _not_ a directory but

Re: How to compare one folder to one directory

2023-11-02 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > I concur with Nicolas: every time you say "folder", a unicorn dies. Loris Bennett wrote: > In German there are also two words: 'Ordner' (folder/binder) and > 'Verzeichnis' (directory/catalogue). People also use both more or less > interchangeably. But if you say

Re: How to compare contents of two folders against third one?

2023-11-02 Thread Alexander V. Makartsev
On 02.11.2023 12:59, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: Rsync wasn't helpful in my case. It refused to recognize file names properly, complaining about charset encoding, not even with --iconv parameters. Probably because of locale differences between my system and mounted filesystems and who knows what else

Re: How to compare contents of two folders against third one?

2023-11-02 Thread Nicolas George
Alexander V. Makartsev (12023-11-02): > It could be also a limitation or bug of overlayfs since it doesn't have > locale/iocharset/codepage parameters for mount. No, it is not: Unix file names are made of octets, not characters. Regards, -- Nicolas George

Re: How to compare contents of two folders against third one?

2023-11-02 Thread tomas
On Thu, Nov 02, 2023 at 02:42:41PM +0500, Alexander V. Makartsev wrote: [encodings, file systems] > I've tried to mount filesystems (all NTFS) with different locale parameters, > still ended up with either garbled filenames or charset conversion and 'path > too long' complains from rsync. I see.

DEBIAN 12.2 NO RECONOCE IMPRESORA HP OFFICEJET 4630

2023-11-02 Thread José Villa Ruiz
Tenía instalado en ordenador debian 11.8 y la impresora funcionaba y la reconocía perfectamente, al actualizar a la versión 12.0 incluso 12.2, el sistema no ve la impresora, incluso haciendo una instalación limpia de la versión 12.2. Espero me puedan ayudar, pues veo en internet que en debian 12.2

Re: How to compare one folder to one directory

2023-11-02 Thread John Hasler
Loris Bennett wrote: > What's the objection to 'folder'? I don't use it myself, but it seems > fairly reasonable to me. Many desktop environments use an old hanging > folder icon in their file browsers. tomas writes: > This is Microsoft jargon. It comes from the Xerox "desktop metaphor". The i

Re: How to compare one folder to one directory

2023-11-02 Thread tomas
On Thu, Nov 02, 2023 at 09:12:45AM -0500, John Hasler wrote: > Loris Bennett wrote: > > What's the objection to 'folder'? I don't use it myself, but it seems > > fairly reasonable to me. Many desktop environments use an old hanging > > folder icon in their file browsers. > > tomas writes: > > Th

AW: Panic again

2023-11-02 Thread Schwibinger Michael
Good afternoon Thank You Stupid asking again. How about booting DEBIAN then read grub and other system files and post them here? Regards Sophie Von: to...@tuxteam.de Gesendet: Freitag, 27. Oktober 2023 04:26 Bis: Cindy Sue Causey Cc: Debian Users Betreff: Re:

Re: How to compare one folder to one directory

2023-11-02 Thread Loris Bennett
writes: > On Thu, Nov 02, 2023 at 09:12:45AM -0500, John Hasler wrote: >> Loris Bennett wrote: >> > What's the objection to 'folder'? I don't use it myself, but it seems >> > fairly reasonable to me. Many desktop environments use an old hanging >> > folder icon in their file browsers. >> >> to

Re: Alternative to NetworkManager on Debian 12

2023-11-02 Thread Max Nikulin
On 02/11/2023 00:44, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Wed, Nov 01, 2023 at 10:00:45PM +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: Doesn't allow-hotplug means adding a network adapter (e.g. a USB one), not plugging network cable into an existing adapter (built-in or connected earlier)? Following the man page (interfa

Re: How to compare contents of two folders against third one?

2023-11-02 Thread Michel Verdier
On 2023-11-02, Alexander V. Makartsev wrote: > I've tried to mount filesystems (all NTFS) with different locale parameters, > still ended up with either garbled filenames or charset conversion and 'path > too long' complains from rsync. I use rsync on ntfs without locale parameter. This is my fst

Re: touchpad buttons sometimes stop working for several seconds

2023-11-02 Thread Max Nikulin
On 02/11/2023 04:51, Vincent Lefevre wrote: On 2023-11-01 20:15:49 +0100, Vincent Lefevre wrote: On 2023-11-01 09:09:45 +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: Can you move cursor during these periods? Yes, no issues with the cursor (mouse pointer). I would still try to disable typing detection to test i

apt update does not work

2023-11-02 Thread Martin
I have installed old distribution # deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 9.1.0 _Stretch_ - Official amd64 DVD Binary-1 20170722-11:29]/ stretch contrib main non-free (because that was newest distribution I had on DVD with me) I configured network and now I am trying to update the system to sid. I commente

Re: apt update does not work

2023-11-02 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, Nov 02, 2023 at 04:56:59PM +0100, Martin wrote: > I have installed old distribution > # deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 9.1.0 _Stretch_ - Official amd64 DVD Binary-1 > 20170722-11:29]/ stretch contrib main non-free > (because that was newest distribution I had on DVD with me) > > I configured

Re: Alternative to NetworkManager on Debian 12

2023-11-02 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Thu, Nov 2, 2023 at 11:41 AM Max Nikulin wrote: > [...] > > I am a bit surprised by a use case when temporary unplugging of cable > should be ignored. I have not tested it, but I hope, a setting, I have > noticed in docs, allows NetworkManager to handle it as well. I think it is a bit broader

Re: DEBIAN 12.2 NO RECONOCE IMPRESORA HP OFFICEJET 4630

2023-11-02 Thread Scott Denlinger
While there are some on this list who may read and write Spanish, you should subscribe to the "debian-user-spanish" list if you prefer to use Spanish. Scott Denlinger On Thu, Nov 2, 2023, 12:34 PM José Villa Ruiz wrote: > Tenía instalado en ordenador debian 11.8 y la impresora funcionaba y la >

Re: Alternative to NetworkManager on Debian 12

2023-11-02 Thread tomas
On Thu, Nov 02, 2023 at 10:41:06PM +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: > On 02/11/2023 00:44, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > On Wed, Nov 01, 2023 at 10:00:45PM +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: > > > > > > Doesn't allow-hotplug means adding a network adapter (e.g. a USB one), not > > > plugging network cable into an e

Re: touchpad buttons sometimes stop working for several seconds

2023-11-02 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2023-11-02 22:46:13 +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: > On 02/11/2023 04:51, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > On 2023-11-01 20:15:49 +0100, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > > On 2023-11-01 09:09:45 +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: > > > > Can you move cursor during these periods? > > > > > > Yes, no issues with the curso

Re: apt update does not work

2023-11-02 Thread David Wright
On Thu 02 Nov 2023 at 12:09:55 (-0400), Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Thu, Nov 02, 2023 at 04:56:59PM +0100, Martin wrote: > > I have installed old distribution > > # deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 9.1.0 _Stretch_ - Official amd64 DVD Binary-1 > > 20170722-11:29]/ stretch contrib main non-free > > (becau

Re: touchpad buttons sometimes stop working for several seconds

2023-11-02 Thread Vincent Lefevre
Some additional details: the time during which the issue occurs varies very much: from 25" to 6'20". The time between two consecutive issues also varies and can be very short, such as 30". -- Vincent Lefèvre - Web: 100% accessible validated (X)HTML - Blog:

Re: How to compare one folder to one directory

2023-11-02 Thread debian-user
"Loris Bennett" wrote: > writes: > > > On Thu, Nov 02, 2023 at 09:12:45AM -0500, John Hasler wrote: > >> Loris Bennett wrote: > >> > What's the objection to 'folder'? I don't use it myself, but it > >> > seems fairly reasonable to me. Many desktop environments use an > >> > old hanging fol

Re: How to compare one folder to one directory

2023-11-02 Thread Nicolas George
> "Loris Bennett" wrote: > > Personally I don't see "directory" as being more scary or technical > > than "folder". Apparently, Americans are scared of words with more than two syllables. debian-u...@howorth.org.uk (12023-11-02): > While I belong to the 'directory is the correct term' school of

Re: report a Debian bug

2023-11-02 Thread David Christensen
On 11/2/23 01:05, gene heskett wrote: On 11/2/23 01:46, David Christensen wrote: On 11/1/23 18:34, gene heskett wrote: So what i'm going to do next is transfer my /home, the whole MaryAnn from a 4 drive raid10 to a single 2T SSD,, and then switch /home from the raid to a single drive, thereby

Re: PATH revisited: one PATH to "rule the [Debian] World"

2023-11-02 Thread Tom Browder
On Sun, Sep 24, 2023 at 09:27 Tom Browder wrote: > Every time I set up a new host, I have to jump through the hoops trying to On my main Debian 11 host I have found one formula that works for ssh logins as well as xterm login on a Mate desktop: I followed most of the formulas on the Debian wik

Re: How to compare one folder to one directory (was: How to compare contents of two folders against third one?)

2023-11-02 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Thu, Nov 2, 2023 at 3:18 AM Loris Bennett wrote: > > writes: > > > I concur with Nicolas: every time you say "folder", a unicorn dies. > > What's the objection to 'folder'? I don't use it myself, but it seems > fairly reasonable to me. Many desktop environments use an old hanging > folder ic

rasp pi headless setup

2023-11-02 Thread James Cloos
I tried adding the required info into /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf before first boot (as well as my pub key in .ssh/authorized_keys), but that proved insufficient to get it on the 802.11. It had been so long since the last time that I forgot about putting the wpa_supplicant.conf on the

Re: How to compare one folder to one directory

2023-11-02 Thread John Hasler
I wrote: > It comes from the Xerox "desktop metaphor". The idea was to hide scary > technical jargon behind familiar office jargon. Loris Bennett wrote: > Personally I don't see "directory" as being more scary or technical > than "folder". They are both words from the pre-computer age which > ha

Re: touchpad buttons sometimes stop working for several seconds

2023-11-02 Thread Max Nikulin
On 03/11/2023 01:55, Vincent Lefevre wrote: (EE) event14 - VEN_04F3:00 04F3:311C Touchpad: kernel bug: Touch jump detected and discarded. See https://wayland.freedesktop.org/libinput/doc/1.22.1/touchpad-jumping-cursors.html for details I can actually see 6 messages like that in /var/log/Xorg

Re: How to compare one folder to one directory

2023-11-02 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, Nov 02, 2023 at 12:16:54PM -0500, John Hasler wrote: > This was in the 1970s when the graphical UI was being invented. The > idea was that the screen was to look like an actual desktop which might > have actual file folders on it. Every icon was supposed to be an image > of a familiar off

On weeds and bikesheds [was: How to compare one folder to one directory]

2023-11-02 Thread tomas
On Thu, Nov 02, 2023 at 08:37:22PM -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote: [...] > This discussion went into the weeds rather quickly. If you don't like the weeds... stay out of them :) For the rest, the discussion is an interesting excursion into computer history and culture. > Next they will tell you w

On folders vs. directories and history [was: how to compare...]

2023-11-02 Thread tomas
On Thu, Nov 02, 2023 at 11:17:01PM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Thu, Nov 02, 2023 at 12:16:54PM -0500, John Hasler wrote: > > This was in the 1970s when the graphical UI was being invented. The > > idea was that the screen was to look like an actual desktop which might > > have actual file fol

Re: PATH revisited: one PATH to "rule the [Debian] World"

2023-11-02 Thread tomas
On Thu, Nov 02, 2023 at 04:34:42PM -0500, Tom Browder wrote: [...] > ANOTHER LESSON LEARNED > > While I was experimenting with the desktop settings, I stupidly and blindly > added an exit line to cut out some 20-year old cruft in the end of the > .profile file and all of a sudden I lost my xter