Re: regarding firewall discussion

2022-06-01 Thread mick crane
On 2022-05-31 12:21, IL Ka wrote: What's to stop some spurious instructions being sent in response to genuine request? Packets do not contain instructions, only data. If your TCP/IP implementation doesn't have vulnerabilities any packet shouldn't be a problem. Firewall prevents technically le

Re: problems while using debian's keyring ...

2022-06-01 Thread Albretch Mueller
$ gpg --verbose --recv-key 5AA3BC334FD7E3369E7C77B291C559DBE4C9123B gpg: data source: https://keys.openpgp.org:443 gpg: armor header: Comment: 5AA3 BC33 4FD7 E336 9E7C 77B2 91C5 59DB E4C9 123B gpg: pub dsa1024/91C559DBE4C9123B 2008-06-02 Adrián Pérez de Castro (personal) gpg: key 91C559DBE4C912

Re: Discovering DHCP hostname during original system installation

2022-06-01 Thread Richard Owlett
On 05/31/2022 11:20 PM, David Wright wrote: On Tue 31 May 2022 at 14:00:51 (-0500), Richard Owlett wrote: On 05/31/2022 11:13 AM, David Wright wrote: On Tue 31 May 2022 at 08:13:57 (-0500), Richard Owlett wrote: I'm using firmware-11.3.0-amd64-netinst.iso to install Debian onto a Lenovo T510 [

Re: Firewall blocking my new Debian 11 server ports 80 and 443

2022-06-01 Thread Tom Browder
On Mon, May 30, 2022 at 19:46 Edwin Zimmerman wrote: > On 5/30/22 09:41, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Mon, May 30, 2022 at 07:13:54AM -0500, Tom Browder wrote: > >> No worries. All those responses about the subject IP now are the norm > for a > >> bare-iron server ready for use by a customer, your

Re: Discovering DHCP hostname during original system installation

2022-06-01 Thread Richard Owlett
On 05/31/2022 02:00 PM, Richard Owlett wrote: *SNIP* I am doing a fresh install from home using an Alcatel Linkzone to connect to my T-mobile account. I have had no problems doing this with standard netinstallers. ? That seems to be a new interpretation of the thread: https://lists.debian.

Re: problems while using debian's keyring ...

2022-06-01 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Wed, Jun 01, 2022 at 01:40:14AM -0500, Albretch Mueller wrote: I think I am following the steps as I should. This is what I got before and after I thought I have verified the webkit2gtk source packages: $ gpg --verify webkit2gtk_2.34.6.orig.tar.xz.asc webkit2gtk_2.34.6-1~deb11u1.debian.tar.xz

Re: perl listgarden module

2022-06-01 Thread Andy Smith
Hi Russell, On Mon, May 30, 2022 at 02:39:21AM +, Russell L. Harris wrote: > I am attempting to run the ListGarden RSS generator on Debian 11. > Perl 5 (version 32) needs the ListGarden module. There is no such published module that I can find, so it seems likely that this is part of ListGard

Re: declarative (config file) way idea of handling the OS by way of the old system

2022-06-01 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Mon, May 30, 2022 at 08:05:28AM -0400, Dan Ritter wrote: > For a single user's machine, it's unlikely to be rewarding > except intellectually. It is however a great way to document a system for those that don't get around to making free text notes. The language of the configuration mana

Debian license issue

2022-06-01 Thread Lidiya Pecherskaya
Hello, Is it possible to get information on the type of license under which the Debian software is available? Thanks in advance.

Re: Debian license issue

2022-06-01 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Jun 01, 2022 at 04:14:49PM +0300, Lidiya Pecherskaya wrote: > Is it possible to get information on the type of license under which the > Debian software is available? Each package has one or more licenses, under which it's distributed. The license(s) for a given package are contained in th

Re: Debian license issue

2022-06-01 Thread Andy Smith
Hi Lidiya, On Wed, Jun 01, 2022 at 04:14:49PM +0300, Lidiya Pecherskaya wrote: > Is it possible to get information on the type of license under which the > Debian software is available? Each package installs a file /usr/share/doc//copyright with its exact license. In general all packages that ar

Monthly FAQ for the debian-user mailing list

2022-06-01 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
Debian-user is a mailing list provided for support for Debian users, and to facilitate discussion on relevant topics. Some guidelines which may help explain how the list works: * The language on this mailing list is English. There may be other mailing lists that are language-specific for exam

Re: problems while using debian's keyring ...

2022-06-01 Thread Albretch Mueller
thank you. that was it: $ ls -l webkit2gtk_2.34.6*.* -rw-r--r-- 1 lbrtchx lbrtchx74172 Feb 19 07:34 webkit2gtk_2.34.6-1~deb11u1.debian.tar.xz -rw-r--r-- 1 lbrtchx lbrtchx 4278 Feb 19 07:34 webkit2gtk_2.34.6-1~deb11u1.dsc -rw-r--r-- 1 lbrtchx lbrtchx 24393340 Feb 17 13:08 webkit2gtk_2.34.6

Re: Firewall blocking my new Debian 11 server ports 80 and 443

2022-06-01 Thread john doe
On 6/1/2022 1:45 PM, Tom Browder wrote: On Mon, May 30, 2022 at 19:46 Edwin Zimmerman wrote: On 5/30/22 09:41, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Mon, May 30, 2022 at 07:13:54AM -0500, Tom Browder wrote: No worries. All those responses about the subject IP now are the norm for a bare-iron server read

Re: perl listgarden module

2022-06-01 Thread Russell L. Harris
On Wed, Jun 01, 2022 at 01:08:50PM +, Andy Smith wrote: Hi Russell, On Mon, May 30, 2022 at 02:39:21AM +, Russell L. Harris wrote: I am attempting to run the ListGarden RSS generator on Debian 11. Perl 5 (version 32) needs the ListGarden module. There is no such published module that

Re: google account say it will no longer deliver email

2022-06-01 Thread Brian
On Thu 12 May 2022 at 10:08:01 -, Virgo Pärna wrote: > On Wed, 11 May 2022 20:09:14 +0200, Fero Dali wrote: > > Sorry for misunderstanding: it seems that my account will continue to work > > but > > ability to download mail with POP3 without OAUTH2 will be unavailable. > > > > Actuall

Re: Firewall blocking my new Debian 11 server ports 80 and 443

2022-06-01 Thread Tom Browder
On Wed, Jun 1, 2022 at 11:21 john doe wrote: > when does it actually start operating? Does it do so then, or does it take > > a reboot? > Apparently, if you 'enable' 'ufw', it will start and be enabled at boot. Good, thanks. According to (1), ufw should work with nftables, I did not follow th

Re: regarding firewall discussion

2022-06-01 Thread Joe
On Tue, 31 May 2022 03:17:52 +0100 mick crane wrote: > regarding firewall discussion I'm uncertain how firewalls are > supposed to work. > I think the idea is that nothing is accepted unless it is in response > to a request. > What's to stop some spurious instructions being sent in response to >

Re: google account say it will no longer deliver email

2022-06-01 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Wed, 1 Jun 2022 18:04:02 +0100 Brian wrote: > On Thu 12 May 2022 at 10:08:01 -, Virgo Pärna wrote: > > > On Wed, 11 May 2022 20:09:14 +0200, Fero Dali > > wrote: > > > Sorry for misunderstanding: it seems that my account will > > > continue to work but ability to download mail with POP

Re: google account say it will no longer deliver email

2022-06-01 Thread Brian
On Wed 01 Jun 2022 at 10:44:17 -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote: > On Wed, 1 Jun 2022 18:04:02 +0100 > Brian wrote: > > > On Thu 12 May 2022 at 10:08:01 -, Virgo Pärna wrote: > > > > > On Wed, 11 May 2022 20:09:14 +0200, Fero Dali > > > wrote: > > > > Sorry for misunderstanding: it seems that

Re: regarding firewall discussion

2022-06-01 Thread rhkramer
> mick crane wrote: > > regarding firewall discussion I'm uncertain how firewalls are > > supposed to work. > > I think the idea is that nothing is accepted unless it is in response > > to a request. > > What's to stop some spurious instructions being sent in response to > > genuine request? Just

Re: Discovering DHCP hostname during original system installation

2022-06-01 Thread Brian
On Wed 01 Jun 2022 at 06:32:07 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: [...] > As stated in this post the particular machine is dedicated to > EXPERIMENTATION. The goal of the experimentation is to be able to describe > how the Debian installation process could simultaneously be simpler and more > versatile

Re: regarding firewall discussion

2022-06-01 Thread Joe
On Wed, 1 Jun 2022 15:02:10 -0400 rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > > mick crane wrote: > > > regarding firewall discussion I'm uncertain how firewalls are > > > supposed to work. > > > I think the idea is that nothing is accepted unless it is in > > > response to a request. > > > What's to stop some

Re: regarding firewall discussion

2022-06-01 Thread mick crane
On 2022-06-01 18:26, Joe wrote: On Tue, 31 May 2022 03:17:52 +0100 mick crane wrote: regarding firewall discussion I'm uncertain how firewalls are supposed to work. I think the idea is that nothing is accepted unless it is in response to a request. What's to stop some spurious instructions bei

Re: google account say it will no longer deliver email

2022-06-01 Thread mick crane
On 2022-06-01 18:04, Brian wrote: On Thu 12 May 2022 at 10:08:01 -, Virgo Pärna wrote: On Wed, 11 May 2022 20:09:14 +0200, Fero Dali wrote: > Sorry for misunderstanding: it seems that my account will continue to work but > ability to download mail with POP3 without OAUTH2 will be unavaila

Re: Discovering DHCP hostname during original system installation

2022-06-01 Thread David Wright
On Wed 01 Jun 2022 at 06:32:07 (-0500), Richard Owlett wrote: > On 05/31/2022 11:20 PM, David Wright wrote: > > On Tue 31 May 2022 at 14:00:51 (-0500), Richard Owlett wrote: > > > On 05/31/2022 11:13 AM, David Wright wrote: > > > > On Tue 31 May 2022 at 08:13:57 (-0500), Richard Owlett wrote: > [

Re: had another crash, reboot usb failed, powerdown reboot usb failed

2022-06-01 Thread David Wright
On Wed 01 Jun 2022 at 01:23:08 (-0400), gene heskett wrote: > On Wednesday, 1 June 2022 00:58:32 EDT David Wright wrote: > > On Wed 01 Jun 2022 at 00:26:27 (-0400), gene heskett wrote: > > > On Tuesday, 31 May 2022 16:25:01 EDT Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > > > > On Tue, May 31, 2022 at 03:25:59AM -04

System freeze until REISUB

2022-06-01 Thread riveravaldez
Hi, I have just updated a Debian Stable system and had an apparent full-freeze (GUI frozen, IceWM non-respondent and Ctrl+Alt+FN did nothing, keyboard lights also were fixed). Using REISUB system rebooted and everything seems normal right now. Only thing I remember changing was the addition of qlip

Re: had another crash, reboot usb failed, powerdown reboot usb failed

2022-06-01 Thread gene heskett
On Wednesday, 1 June 2022 16:34:01 EDT David Wright wrote: > On Wed 01 Jun 2022 at 01:23:08 (-0400), gene heskett wrote: > > On Wednesday, 1 June 2022 00:58:32 EDT David Wright wrote: > > > On Wed 01 Jun 2022 at 00:26:27 (-0400), gene heskett wrote: > > > > On Tuesday, 31 May 2022 16:25:01 EDT Andr

Re: System freeze until REISUB

2022-06-01 Thread Nicholas Geovanis
On Wed, Jun 1, 2022, 3:40 PM riveravaldez wrote: > Hi, I have just updated a Debian Stable system and had an apparent > full-freeze (GUI frozen, IceWM non-respondent and Ctrl+Alt+FN did > nothing, keyboard lights also were fixed). > Using REISUB system rebooted and everything seems normal right n

Re: declarative (config file) way idea of handling the OS by way of the old system

2022-06-01 Thread Emanuel Berg
Dan Ritter wrote: > That's just knowing what packages you want to install. What do you mean, what else are you supposed to know? >>> >>> Examples [...] >> >> Okay, right, no here we're only concerned with the state of >> the OS in terms of packages that are installed so that they >

Re: declarative (config file) way idea of handling the OS by way of the old system

2022-06-01 Thread Emanuel Berg
Andy Smith wrote: >> For a single user's machine, it's unlikely to be rewarding >> except intellectually. > > It is however a great way to document a system for those > that don't get around to making free text notes. > The language of the configuration management tool both does > the setup and do

Re: Debian license issue

2022-06-01 Thread Emanuel Berg
Stefan Monnier wrote: >> Is it possible to get information on the type of license >> under which the Debian software is available? > > Yes, of course. > Have you tried a search for, say, "debian license", maybe? > Just a wild idea, Here are a bunch of tools that can help the OP, https://wiki.d

Re: Debian license issue

2022-06-01 Thread Emanuel Berg
Stefan Monnier wrote: >> Is it possible to get information on the type of license >> under which the Debian software is available? > > Yes, of course. > Have you tried a search for, say, "debian license", maybe? > Just a wild idea I don't know what Debian is under to be honest, GPL2? If so this s

Re: had another crash, reboot usb failed, powerdown reboot usb failed

2022-06-01 Thread gene heskett
On Wednesday, 1 June 2022 16:34:01 EDT David Wright wrote: > On Wed 01 Jun 2022 at 01:23:08 (-0400), gene heskett wrote: > > On Wednesday, 1 June 2022 00:58:32 EDT David Wright wrote: > > > On Wed 01 Jun 2022 at 00:26:27 (-0400), gene heskett wrote: > > > > On Tuesday, 31 May 2022 16:25:01 EDT Andr

Re: Debian license issue

2022-06-01 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, Jun 02, 2022 at 04:14:22AM +0200, Emanuel Berg wrote: > I don't know what Debian is under to be honest, GPL2? "Debian" is not "under" anything. Each INDIVIDUAL PACKAGE within Debian has one or more licenses which apply to it. See previous messages in this thread.

Re: Debian license issue

2022-06-01 Thread Emanuel Berg
Greg Wooledge wrote: >> I don't know what Debian is under to be honest, GPL2? > > "Debian" is not "under" anything. > > Each INDIVIDUAL PACKAGE within Debian has one or more > licenses which apply to it. See previous messages in > this thread. OKAY SO THE "DISTRIBUTION" DON'T HAVE A "LICENSE"? -

Re: System freeze until REISUB

2022-06-01 Thread Timothy M Butterworth
On Wed, Jun 1, 2022 at 8:23 PM Nicholas Geovanis wrote: > On Wed, Jun 1, 2022, 3:40 PM riveravaldez > wrote: > >> Hi, I have just updated a Debian Stable system and had an apparent >> full-freeze (GUI frozen, IceWM non-respondent and Ctrl+Alt+FN did >> nothing, keyboard lights also were fixed).

Re: Debian license issue

2022-06-01 Thread tomas
On Thu, Jun 02, 2022 at 05:21:17AM +0200, Emanuel Berg wrote: {...} > OKAY SO THE "DISTRIBUTION" DON'T HAVE A "LICENSE"? THEY HAVE MANY! ;-) -- t signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: Debian license issue

2022-06-01 Thread Gary Dale
On 2022-06-01 09:14, Lidiya Pecherskaya wrote: Hello, Is it possible to get information on the type of license under which the Debian software is available? Thanks in advance. Most of the packages are distributed under a free license - usually GPL or MIT but sometimes others. Packages under