had another crash, reboot usb failed, powerdown reboot usb failed

2022-05-31 Thread gene heskett
See subject, mouse, keyboard, usb printers working, but /dev/ttyUSB* is not, "sudo lsusb -v|grep -C3 Couldn -" reports most devices can't be opened. Example: gene@coyote:/etc/nut$ sudo lsusb -v|grep -c3 Couldn - can't get debug descriptor: Resource temporarily unavailable can't get device quali

OT HP Laser 408 Firmware

2022-05-31 Thread basti
Hello, I need the HP Laser 408 Firmware Version lp408dn_v4.00.01.25_ver_DS.zip to fix Paper Jam from Tray 2. In the Download area there is only the latest one.

Re: OT HP Laser 408 Firmware

2022-05-31 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Tue, May 31, 2022 at 10:13:12AM +0200, basti wrote: > Hi basti > Hello, > I need the HP Laser 408 Firmware Version lp408dn_v4.00.01.25_ver_DS.zip to > fix Paper Jam from Tray 2. > > In the Download area there is only the latest one. > If this is the latest firmware then you assume that it h

Re: regarding firewall discussion

2022-05-31 Thread IL Ka
> > > I think the idea is that nothing is accepted it depends on policy (-P): either ACCEPT, REJECT or DROP > unless it is in response to > a request. > You must enable it explicitly, i.e. -A INPUT -m state --state RELATED,ESTABLISHED -j ACCEPT > What's to stop some spurious instructions being

Re: declarative (config file) way idea of handling the OS by way of the old system

2022-05-31 Thread Dan Ritter
Emanuel Berg wrote: > Dan Ritter wrote: > > >>> You can do it with puppet, chef, ansible, salt... > >>> > >>> You can go further into it with guix and nix. > >>> > >>> It can be quite a lot of work > >> > >> Okay, but why so, since it looks like the task to be done > >> is just a config file th

Re: declarative (config file) way idea of handling the OS by way of the old system

2022-05-31 Thread Emanuel Berg
Dan Ritter wrote: > That's just knowing what packages you want to install. What do you mean, what else are you supposed to know? > If that's all you want, you can use dpkg --set-selections > and a text list. What about using the interactive commands? sudo apt-get -qq update sudo apt-get in

Re: How should learning to program in c++ be approached, if learning objectives are sought to be customised?

2022-05-31 Thread Susmita/Rajib
My dear Illustrious List Maintainers, Programmers and Senior members, particularly, Ilya Kazakevich , Joe and Edwin Zimmerman , I am overwhelmed by the supremely patient explanations by Mr. Ilya Kazakevich. The time he has spent in reasoning and writing emails compels me to bow in deep respect.

Re: How should learning to program in c++ be approached, if learning objectives are sought to be customised?

2022-05-31 Thread Emanuel Berg
Susmita/Rajib wrote: > My dear Illustrious List Maintainers, Programmers and Senior > members, particularly, Ilya Kazakevich , > Joe and Edwin Zimmerman > , > > I am overwhelmed by the supremely patient explanations by > Mr. Ilya Kazakevich. The time he has spent in reasoning and > writing emails

Re: declarative (config file) way idea of handling the OS by way of the old system

2022-05-31 Thread Dan Ritter
Emanuel Berg wrote: > Dan Ritter wrote: > > > That's just knowing what packages you want to install. > > What do you mean, what else are you supposed to know? Examples: - you have installed a load balancer; it needs a configuration file to work. - you have installed bind or unbound to provide

Re: How should learning to program in c++ be approached, if learning objectives are sought to be customised?

2022-05-31 Thread Susmita/Rajib
Dear Mr. DdB, Thank you for your off-list email. Fortunately it seems I didn't send you an off-list email, because of which your Filters couldn't act upon it. It is strange that it was only recently, despite it having been published in 1991, The Holographic Universe, by Michael Talbot, reached me.

Discovering DHCP hostname during original system installation

2022-05-31 Thread Richard Owlett
I'm using firmware-11.3.0-amd64-netinst.iso to install Debian onto a Lenovo T510 [Thinkpad]. I know the netinstaller works on this laptop as I have done a successful install when within range of of local library's wifi and the installer is successfully detecting multiple local wifi sources.

Re: Discovering DHCP hostname during original system installation

2022-05-31 Thread David Wright
On Tue 31 May 2022 at 08:13:57 (-0500), Richard Owlett wrote: > I'm using firmware-11.3.0-amd64-netinst.iso to install Debian onto a > Lenovo T510 [Thinkpad]. ✓ > I know the netinstaller works on this laptop as I have done a > successful install when within range of of local library's wifi and >

Re: Discovering DHCP hostname during original system installation

2022-05-31 Thread Richard Owlett
On 05/31/2022 11:13 AM, David Wright wrote: On Tue 31 May 2022 at 08:13:57 (-0500), Richard Owlett wrote: I'm using firmware-11.3.0-amd64-netinst.iso to install Debian onto a Lenovo T510 [Thinkpad]. ✓ I know the netinstaller works on this laptop as I have done a successful install when withi

Re: had another crash, reboot usb failed, powerdown reboot usb failed

2022-05-31 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Tue, May 31, 2022 at 03:25:59AM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > See subject, mouse, keyboard, usb printers working, but /dev/ttyUSB* is > not, > > "sudo lsusb -v|grep -C3 Couldn -" reports most devices can't be opened. > Example: > gene@coyote:/etc/nut$ sudo lsusb -v|grep -c3 Couldn - > can't g

Re: declarative (config file) way idea of handling the OS by way of the old system

2022-05-31 Thread Emanuel Berg
Dan Ritter wrote: >>> That's just knowing what packages you want to install. >> >> What do you mean, what else are you supposed to know? > > Examples: > > - you have installed a load balancer; it needs > a configuration file to work. > > - you have installed bind or unbound to provide DNS, they

Re: declarative (config file) way idea of handling the OS by way of the old system

2022-05-31 Thread Dan Ritter
Emanuel Berg wrote: > Dan Ritter wrote: > > >>> That's just knowing what packages you want to install. > >> > >> What do you mean, what else are you supposed to know? > > > > Examples: > > Okay, right, no here we're only concerned with the state of > the OS in terms of packages that are install

Re: How should learning to program in c++ be approached, if learning objectives are sought to be customised?

2022-05-31 Thread Alex King
Hey Rajib, Your questions to the list have been well answered already, but a couple more points may be helpful. I'm a part-time programmer who's learnt C and Python, and I'm currently learning Rust. On 31/05/22 05:21, debian-user-digest-requ...@lists.debian.org wrote: Hello! You said, ".

Re: How should learning to program in c++ be approached, if learning objectives are sought to be customised?

2022-05-31 Thread Susmita/Rajib
Dear Mr. King, I totally agree with what you say regarding diversity in range of problems requiring different solutions. Perhaps that agreement was also reflected in my earlier post at https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2022/05/msg00854.html The higher order truth that I am trying to arrive at

Re: Discovering DHCP hostname during original system installation

2022-05-31 Thread David Wright
On Tue 31 May 2022 at 14:00:51 (-0500), Richard Owlett wrote: > On 05/31/2022 11:13 AM, David Wright wrote: > > On Tue 31 May 2022 at 08:13:57 (-0500), Richard Owlett wrote: > > > I'm using firmware-11.3.0-amd64-netinst.iso to install Debian onto a > > > Lenovo T510 [Thinkpad]. > > > > ✓ > > > >

Re: had another crash, reboot usb failed, powerdown reboot usb failed

2022-05-31 Thread gene heskett
On Tuesday, 31 May 2022 16:25:01 EDT Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > On Tue, May 31, 2022 at 03:25:59AM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > > See subject, mouse, keyboard, usb printers working, but /dev/ttyUSB* > > is not, > > > > "sudo lsusb -v|grep -C3 Couldn -" reports most devices can't be > > opened.> >

Re: had another crash, reboot usb failed, powerdown reboot usb failed

2022-05-31 Thread David Wright
On Wed 01 Jun 2022 at 00:26:27 (-0400), gene heskett wrote: > On Tuesday, 31 May 2022 16:25:01 EDT Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > > On Tue, May 31, 2022 at 03:25:59AM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > I now know where the seriel convertors are so I can unplug them so I > could reinstall for about the 25th

Re: had another crash, reboot usb failed, powerdown reboot usb failed

2022-05-31 Thread gene heskett
On Wednesday, 1 June 2022 00:58:32 EDT David Wright wrote: > On Wed 01 Jun 2022 at 00:26:27 (-0400), gene heskett wrote: > > On Tuesday, 31 May 2022 16:25:01 EDT Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > > > On Tue, May 31, 2022 at 03:25:59AM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > > I now know where the seriel convertors a

problems while using debian's keyring ...

2022-05-31 Thread Albretch Mueller
I think I am following the steps as I should. This is what I got before and after I thought I have verified the webkit2gtk source packages: $ gpg --verify webkit2gtk_2.34.6.orig.tar.xz.asc webkit2gtk_2.34.6-1~deb11u1.debian.tar.xz gpg: Signature made Thu 17 Feb 2022 07:12:45 AM CST gpg: