Re: Stretch with MATE DE - odd new file association problem

Hello, On Tue, Apr 16, 2019 at 04:39:06AM +0500, Alexander V. Makartsev wrote: > You can add SeaMonkey config manually if you want, but you will have to > track the changes after that. >     $ sudo update-alternatives --install /usr/bin/x-www-browser > x-www-browser /your/path/to/seamonkey 100 I

A call to drop gnome

Good afternoon I've copied 2 bits from the discussion on synaptic and adding my 2 bobs' worth towards the next review of whether gnome remains the default desktop. On 15/4/19 9:31 pm, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:> Because GNOME. GNOME's upstream said their word loud and clear, and that > word

Re: but it's not going to be installed

On 2019-04-15 21:00, Cindy Sue Causey wrote: On 4/15/19, mick crane wrote: I typed "apt install mypaint" mypaint depends on mypaint-data but it's not going to be installed seen that mypaint-data was there so "apt install mypaint-data" ...installs OK "apt install mypaint" no complaints what's th

Re: but it's not going to be installed

On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 08:45:09PM +0100, mick crane wrote: I typed "apt install mypaint" mypaint depends on mypaint-data but it's not going to be installed seen that mypaint-data was there so "apt install mypaint-data" ...installs OK "apt install mypaint" no complaints what's that all about then

Re: A call to drop gnome

Hi. On Tue, Apr 16, 2019 at 04:54:02PM +1000, Keith Bainbridge wrote: > On 15/4/19 9:31 pm, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:> Because GNOME. GNOME's upstream > said their word loud and clear, and that > > word is - 'thou shall use Wayland for it is our favorite toy now'. I wrote it, in reply to Th

Re: A call to drop gnome

Hello, On Tue, Apr 16, 2019 at 04:54:02PM +1000, Keith Bainbridge wrote: > I say this is NOT freedom. > > Of course new users accept the defaults on a fresh install - I guess that > like me 20 years ago, they presume the defaults will work best. > > > So, I am asking that gnome be dropped as an

Re: Stretch with MATE DE - odd new file association problem

Le 15/04/2019 à 23:05, Richard Owlett a écrit : [...] >> root@fromdell:/home/richard# update-alternatives --config >> gnome-www-browser >> There is only one alternative in link group gnome-www-browser >> (providing /usr/bin/gnome-www-browser): /usr/bin/firefox-esr >> Nothing to configure. >> root@f

Re: but it's not going to be installed

On 2019-04-15, Cindy Sue Causey wrote: > Apparently for one thing, it's about some kind of package > conflicts'ISH with GIMP GNU Image Manipulation Program. Via "apt-get > install --dry-run" mypaint-data, I received the following: > There is this year-old bug: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bu

Re: A call to drop gnome

On Tue, Apr 16, 2019 at 04:54:02PM +1000, Keith Bainbridge wrote: > Good afternoon [...] > On 15/4/19 9:31 pm, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:> Because GNOME. GNOME's > upstream said their word loud and clear, and that > > word is - 'thou shall use Wayland for it is our favorite toy now'. As Reco said,

Re: Stretch with MATE DE - odd new file association problem

On 16.04.2019 12:08, Andy Smith wrote: > Hello, > > On Tue, Apr 16, 2019 at 04:39:06AM +0500, Alexander V. Makartsev wrote: >> You can add SeaMonkey config manually if you want, but you will have to >> track the changes after that. >>     $ sudo update-alternatives --install /usr/bin/x-www-browser

Re: New laptop: need advice on choice of file system types

On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 01:38:12PM -0400, Felix Miata wrote: Both DFSee and IBM BM use the last sector on the first track for data storage, including useful cataloging data. Even when not having IBM BM installed, its data sector is (optionally) used by DFSee, by me, always. So I gather that you

Re: Need help analyzing (kernel?) memory usage and reclaiming RAM (Debian Stretch)

Hello, On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 07:03:13PM +0300, Reco wrote: [...] > What I suspect is happening here is runaway memory allocation by a > kernel module (at least one of them), and said kernel module is likely > to be VMWare-specific. > It could be vmxnet3 (network). It could be that LSI kernel mod

Re: Need help analyzing (kernel?) memory usage and reclaiming RAM (Debian Stretch)

Hi. On Tue, Apr 16, 2019 at 10:22:16AM +0200, Martin Schwarz wrote: > Hello, > > On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 07:03:13PM +0300, Reco wrote: > [...] > > What I suspect is happening here is runaway memory allocation by a > > kernel module (at least one of them), and said kernel module is likely

Re: but it's not going to be installed

On 2019-04-16 08:39, Jonathan Dowland wrote: On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 08:45:09PM +0100, mick crane wrote: I typed "apt install mypaint" mypaint depends on mypaint-data but it's not going to be installed seen that mypaint-data was there so "apt install mypaint-data" ...installs OK "apt install myp

Re: A call to drop gnome

> "R" == Reco writes: R> No. What I wrote that for several years you had the possibility to R> run GNOME on Wayland. And it will be the default in the next stable R> Debian. Because (and here you're correct) - upstream wants that R> everyone use the GNOME that way. As long as using X is su

Re: A call to drop gnome

> "AS" == Andy Smith writes: AS> Hello, On Tue, Apr 16, 2019 at 04:54:02PM +1000, Keith Bainbridge AS> wrote: >> I say this is NOT freedom. >> >> Of course new users accept the defaults on a fresh install - I >> guess that like me 20 years ago, they presume the defaults will >> work best. >>

Re: A call to drop gnome

Hi. On Tue, Apr 16, 2019 at 10:38:38AM +, Gian Uberto Lauri wrote: > > "R" == Reco writes: I *have* to object to this ☺ In C this comparison equals false. Have you meant '"R" = Reco' (i.e. assignment)? > R> No. What I wrote that for several years you had the possibility to > R

Re: A call to drop gnome

On Tue, 16 Apr 2019, Keith Bainbridge wrote: > Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2019 02:54:02 > From: Keith Bainbridge > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Subject: A call to drop gnome > Resent-Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2019 07:12:08 + (UTC) > Resent-From: debian-user@lists.debian.org > > Good afternoon > > > I've

Re: Buster presentation info

On 15/04/2019 17:38, Paul Sutton wrote: > On 15/04/2019 09:27, Reco wrote: >> Hi. >> >> On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 08:38:15AM +0100, Paul Sutton wrote: >>> Does anyone know the version of Wayland being used? >> $ dpkg -s libwayland-server0 | grep Version >> Version: 1.16.0-1 >> >>> and what oth

Re: Need help analyzing (kernel?) memory usage and reclaiming RAM (Debian Stretch)

Hello, On Tue, Apr 16, 2019 at 11:49:57AM +0300, Reco wrote: > I see nothing unusual short of somewhat low amount of RAM by today's > standards. > It's no excuse for the kernel to behave that way, for obvious reasons. yes, 1 GB is not that much - but should be more than enough for the two small R

Re: Need help analyzing (kernel?) memory usage and reclaiming RAM (Debian Stretch)

Hi. On Tue, Apr 16, 2019 at 02:30:57PM +0200, Martin Schwarz wrote: > > slabtop from "procps" package, definitely. > > Should've thought of it earlier. > > I did take a look at slaptop (and at /proc/slabinfo) before. But since the > values for "SReclaimable" and "SUnreclaim" from /proc/me

Re: A call to drop gnome

> "R" == Reco writes: R> As we saw two weeks ago, the decision to run GNOME on Wayland R> backfired at synaptic. To rephrase, why bother running X if there R> are no applications left to run on X? Because I like and I use a lot remote display. Because I prefer it user program. If you have

Re: just mail forwarding to smart mailer

On Sun, 14 Apr 2019 22:17:44 +0900 황병희 wrote: > > I am looking for an "easy light weight just empty the local queue and > > Very very very easy thing: https://wiki.debian.org/sSMTP Note that sSMTP does not perform server certificate verification, thus allowing, e.g., credential stealing via MIT

octave plots/graphics

I have just installed octave and it seems I'm missing some parts. I'm using Debian testing with XFCE. I have the following packages installed: $ dpkg -l | grep octave ii liboctave6:amd64 4.4.1-5 ii octave4.4.1-5 ii octave-bsltl

Re: A call to drop gnome

On Tuesday 16 April 2019 07:01:25 Reco wrote: > Hi. > > On Tue, Apr 16, 2019 at 10:38:38AM +, Gian Uberto Lauri wrote: > > > "R" == Reco writes: > > I *have* to object to this ☺ In C this comparison equals false. > Have you meant '"R" = Reco' (i.e. assignment)? > > > R> No. What I

Re: but it's not going to be installed

On Tue, Apr 16, 2019 at 10:12:47AM +0100, mick crane wrote: would the brave-apt stretch line cause problems with software other than brave browser which I don't really use ? No it's very unlikely. It's possible that the particular Brave repository you have configured there (Brave stretch) could

Re: A call to drop gnome

Hi. On Tue, Apr 16, 2019 at 09:35:32AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > R> The usual arguments apply. Don't like it - patch it. Patches are > > > R> welcome. > > I wondered how long it would take for that phrase to emerge, so everyone > in a position of control can hide behind it yet ag

Re: A call to drop gnome

Hi. On Tue, Apr 16, 2019 at 12:35:29PM +, Gian Uberto Lauri wrote: > > "R" == Reco writes: > > > R> As we saw two weeks ago, the decision to run GNOME on Wayland > R> backfired at synaptic. To rephrase, why bother running X if there > R> are no applications left to run on X? >

Re: A call to drop gnome

On Tuesday 16 April 2019 09:54:19 Reco wrote: > Hi. > > On Tue, Apr 16, 2019 at 09:35:32AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > R> The usual arguments apply. Don't like it - patch it. Patches > > > > are R> welcome. > > > > I wondered how long it would take for that phrase to emerge, so > > e

Re: Need help analyzing (kernel?) memory usage and reclaiming RAM (Debian Stretch)

Martin Schwarz writes: > root@rad-m2m-srv02:~# ps aux --sort=-rss | head -15 you're choosing the wrong sort field to debug your problem here: man ps: """ rss RSS resident set size, the non-swapped physical memory that a task has used (in kiloBytes).

Re: A call to drop gnome

Not sure what this is about. Isn't a desktop manager, display environment whatever its called a way to present icons that you can click on and it starts a program you want to use and then gets out of the way ? Is this about having common libraries that control what appears on the screen ? Am I

Re: octave plots/graphics

On Tue, Apr 16, 2019 at 10:21:35AM -0300, Bruno Schneider wrote: > I have just installed octave and it seems I'm missing some parts. I'm > using Debian testing with XFCE. I have the following packages > installed: > > $ dpkg -l | grep octave > ii liboctave6:amd64 4.4.1-5 > ii

Re: just mail forwarding to smart mailer

On Tue, 16 Apr 2019 13:53:05 + Bonno Bloksma wrote: > Hi, > > >> > I am looking for an "easy light weight just empty the local queue > >> > and very very very easy thing: https://wiki.debian.org/sSMTP > > > > Note that sSMTP does not perform server certificate verification, thus > > allowi

Re: A call to drop gnome

On Tue, Apr 16, 2019 at 03:41:28PM +0100, mick crane wrote: > Not sure what this is about. > Isn't a desktop manager, display environment whatever its called a way to > present icons that you can click on and it starts a program you want to use > and then gets out of the way ? A window manager is

Accessing a host with variable IP addresses / connection types

Hi, I've been bedeviled by this question for a while, but have been unable to figure out a clean, non-hackish solution. It may be an XY problem ... I have a system (laptop, running Debian) that is sometimes connected directly to my LAN, and sometimes connected via VPN (wireguard, to the local rou

Re: A call to drop gnome

> "R" == Reco writes: >> Add one more reason to use X. R> My main reason to continue to use X in buster. I got used to my R> openbox setup. Same here. Switched to WindoMaker in 1996 because we had only 256 colors available and it could "render many color using a little number of elements i

Re: A call to drop gnome

Hi. On Tue, Apr 16, 2019 at 10:54:06AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > Like, for example, fvwm has an installed-size of > about 6.5 megabytes. How big is GNOME? I wouldn't be surprised if it's > two orders of magnitude larger than that, just for its "core" components, > not counting a bunc

Re: Need help analyzing (kernel?) memory usage and reclaiming RAM (Debian Stretch)

Hi. On Tue, Apr 16, 2019 at 04:39:32PM +0200, Peter Wiersig wrote: > VSZ is the Virtual Memory Size. It includes all memory that the process > can access, including memory that is swapped out, memory that is > allocated, but not used, and memory that is from shared libraries."" Given this

Re: A call to drop gnome

On 4/16/19 6:54 AM, Reco wrote: >> I see Linus is drifting back to his older style, issuing the desktop >> people a whipping they are in need of over the weekend, saying 90% of >> why linux doesn't control the desktop is that there is not a >> standardized, one size fits all because it can do al

A few questions (buster and presentation)

Hi Just a few questions for clarity. There are 3 main ways to install packages,  I have tried to explain this in the presentation as Apt - 1.8.0 - command line tool (universal) Gnome-packagekit - used for gnome desktop environment Synaptic - 0.84.5 used for most other Desktop Environment(s) I u

Re: A few questions (buster and presentation)

On Tue, Apr 16, 2019 at 06:27:34PM +0100, Paul Sutton wrote: There are 3 main ways to install packages,  I have tried to explain this in the presentation as Apt - 1.8.0 - command line tool (universal) Gnome-packagekit - used for gnome desktop environment Synaptic - 0.84.5 used for most other Des

Re: A call to drop gnome

Hi. On Tue, Apr 16, 2019 at 06:54:00PM +0200, Matthew Crews wrote: > On 4/16/19 6:54 AM, Reco wrote: > >> I see Linus is drifting back to his older style, issuing the desktop > >> people a whipping they are in need of over the weekend, saying 90% of > >> why linux doesn't control the des

Re: A few questions (buster and presentation)

On 4/16/19 10:32 AM, Michael Stone wrote: > On Tue, Apr 16, 2019 at 06:27:34PM +0100, Paul Sutton wrote: >> There are 3 main ways to install packages,  I have tried to explain this >> in the presentation as >> >> Apt - 1.8.0 - command line tool (universal) >> Gnome-packagekit - used for gnome deskt

Re: A few questions (buster and presentation)

On Tue, 16 Apr 2019 18:27:34 +0100 Paul Sutton wrote: Hello Paul, >I understand that KDE is going to be using Wayland too (Wayland >website), does this mean it will use synaptic or does KDE and use its Currently, I run Synaptic with KDE. No problems. There's also muon - a QT based package ins

Re: A call to drop gnome

Gene Heskett writes: > Where the heck in its confusing menu's can I find a tab supporting > terminal so I can get something done? Go ahead, find it, my coffee needs > to cool anyway.. You press the magic Super key, then type "Terminal" on the keyboard (or at least the beginning), then press Enter.

Re: A call to drop gnome

On 4/16/19 10:36 AM, Reco wrote: >> The major DEs are all pushing for the move to Wayland, > > All two of them, I assume? Call me lazy, but I'm not going to cite every article under the Sun explaining why we *should* be moving to Wayland over X. Here are a few starting points. https://en.wikiped

Re: A call to drop gnome

On 4/16/19 10:36 AM, Reco wrote: >> The major DEs are all pushing for the move to Wayland, > > All two of them, I assume? Call me lazy, but I'm not going to cite every article under the Sun explaining why we *should* be moving to Wayland over X. Here are a few starting points. https://en.wikiped

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Re: A few questions (buster and presentation)

Quoting Paul Sutton (2019-04-16 19:27:34) > There are 3 main ways to install packages,  I have tried to explain this > in the presentation as > > Apt - 1.8.0 - command line tool (universal) > Gnome-packagekit - used for gnome desktop environment > Synaptic - 0.84.5 used for most other Desktop Envi

Re: A call to drop gnome

On Di, Apr 16, 2019 at 07:53:40 +0200, Matthew Crews wrote: Off the top of my head, Fedora, SUSE and Ubuntu (as of 18.10) use Wayland by default. I thought Ubuntu dropped Wayland and returned to X11? Concerning Wayland: as long as it doesn’t have some kind of X11 forwarding feature (easy to u

Re: A call to drop gnome

On Tue, Apr 16, 2019 at 07:54:18PM +0200, Matthew Crews wrote: > I will concede that as long as Nvidia drivers do not play nicely with > Wayland (and they don't AFAIK), X will still be required. That's very simplistic point of view. What about Wayland on non-x86, like ARM or MIPS (a hint - it does

Re: New laptop: need advice on choice of file system types

Le 15/04/2019 à 16:38, Tom Browder a écrit : I have decided to use the Deb installer and select LVM during the clean installation, and accept the FS default (I assume it will be ext4, but if not, I will select it). If you intend to use guided partitioning on the whole disk, I repeat that LVM

Re: Accessing a host with variable IP addresses / connection types

Le 16/04/2019 à 17:03, Celejar a écrit : What I seem to want (but maybe XY?) is some way to adjust the host files (or dnsmasq's information) so that the hostname will resolve to the LAN address when the laptop is connected to the LAN, and the VPN address when it's connected via VPN. [...] What i

Re: A call to drop gnome

On 16.04.2019 22:54, Matthew Crews wrote: > I will concede that as long as Nvidia drivers do not play nicely with > Wayland (and they don't AFAIK), X will still be required. But I did just > read that Plasma 5.16 landed Nvidia patches that let it work under > Wayland with Nvidia, so maybe not that

Re: A call to drop gnome

On 2019-04-16, Matthew Crews wrote: > > This all stems back to Synaptic being removed from Debian Buster right? > Well, all someone needs to do is update Synaptic with proper Wayland > support. But judging by the upstream development, it appears that > Synaptic might be abandoned? > https://launc

Re: A call to drop gnome

On Tuesday 16 April 2019 12:54:00 Matthew Crews wrote: > On 4/16/19 6:54 AM, Reco wrote: > >> I see Linus is drifting back to his older style, issuing the > >> desktop people a whipping they are in need of over the weekend, > >> saying 90% of why linux doesn't control the desktop is that there > >

Re: A few questions (buster and presentation)

On 16/04/2019 19:19, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > Quoting Paul Sutton (2019-04-16 19:27:34) >> There are 3 main ways to install packages,  I have tried to explain this >> in the presentation as >> >> Apt - 1.8.0 - command line tool (universal) >> Gnome-packagekit - used for gnome desktop environmen

Re: A few questions (buster and presentation)

On Tuesday 16 April 2019 13:32:10 Michael Stone wrote: > On Tue, Apr 16, 2019 at 06:27:34PM +0100, Paul Sutton wrote: > >There are 3 main ways to install packages,  I have tried to explain > > this in the presentation as > > > >Apt - 1.8.0 - command line tool (universal) > >Gnome-packagekit - used

Re: A few questions (buster and presentation)

On Tue, Apr 16, 2019 at 03:00:04PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: if you are damned carefull, I had it destroy 3 installs already, so badly I had to do a full reinstall. You have to really try, since it tells you what it's going to do before it does anything. But you have a history of odd problems

is xdvi broken?

my desktop system: amd64, Debian 9, xfce, Emacs 24, TeXLive, xdvi While using xdvi to view a LaTeX document being written with Emacs, the display keeps jumping from the Emacs window to the xdvi window. The behaviour persists even after the xdvi window is closed; while in Emacs I suddenly am

Re: A call to drop gnome

On Tuesday 16 April 2019 13:32:38 Ansgar Burchardt wrote: > Gene Heskett writes: > > Where the heck in its confusing menu's can I find a tab supporting > > terminal so I can get something done? Go ahead, find it, my coffee > > needs to cool anyway.. > > You press the magic Super key, then type "Te

Re: A call to drop gnome

On Tuesday 16 April 2019 14:13:31 Stephan Seitz wrote: > On Di, Apr 16, 2019 at 07:53:40 +0200, Matthew Crews wrote: > >Off the top of my head, Fedora, SUSE and Ubuntu (as of 18.10) use > >Wayland by default. > > I thought Ubuntu dropped Wayland and returned to X11? > > Concerning Wayland: as long

Re: Accessing a host with variable IP addresses / connection types

On Tue, 16 Apr 2019 20:45:54 +0200 Pascal Hambourg wrote: > Le 16/04/2019 à 17:03, Celejar a écrit : > > > > What I seem to want (but maybe XY?) is some way to adjust the host > > files (or dnsmasq's information) so that the hostname will resolve to > > the LAN address when the laptop is connect

Re: is xdvi broken?

rlhar...@oplink.net wrote: > my desktop system: amd64, Debian 9, xfce, Emacs 24, TeXLive, xdvi > > While using xdvi to view a LaTeX document being written with Emacs, the > display keeps jumping from the Emacs window to the xdvi window. > > The behaviour persists even after the xdvi window is c

Re: New laptop: need advice on choice of file system types

Jonathan Dowland composed on 2019-04-16 09:17 (UTC+0100): > On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 01:38:12PM -0400, Felix Miata wrote: >> Both DFSee and IBM >>BM use the last sector on the first track for data storage, including useful >>cataloging data. Even when not having IBM BM installed, its data sector i

Re: A few questions (buster and presentation)

Quoting Paul Sutton (2019-04-16 20:59:54) > > > On 16/04/2019 19:19, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > > Quoting Paul Sutton (2019-04-16 19:27:34) > >> There are 3 main ways to install packages,  I have tried to explain this > >> in the presentation as > >> > >> Apt - 1.8.0 - command line tool (universal

Re: octave plots/graphics

Answering to myself for future reference: I installed fonts-freefont-otf and the problem seems to be fixed. This package is not recommended nor suggested by octave. I couldn't find a way to configure a different font file as default font. -- Bruno Schneider

Re: A few questions (buster and presentation)

Quoting Gene Heskett (2019-04-16 21:00:04) > On Tuesday 16 April 2019 13:32:10 Michael Stone wrote: > > > On Tue, Apr 16, 2019 at 06:27:34PM +0100, Paul Sutton wrote: > > >There are 3 main ways to install packages,  I have tried to explain > > > this in the presentation as > > > > > >Apt - 1.8.0 -

Re: New laptop: need advice on choice of file system types

Quoting Pascal Hambourg (2019-04-16 20:39:25) > Le 15/04/2019 à 16:38, Tom Browder a écrit : > > > > I have decided to use the Deb installer and select LVM during > > the clean installation, and accept the FS default (I assume it will be > > ext4, but if not, I will select it). > > If you intend

Re: is xdvi broken?

On 2019.04.16 14:20, Dan Ritter wrote: I would be looking at the keyboard. Is it possible that you have some stickiness in your bottom row modifiers? Unintentional presses and slow releases can cause symptoms like you have described. I thank you, kind sir. I am aware that my expensive and not-

Re: Need help analyzing (kernel?) memory usage and reclaiming RAM (Debian Stretch)

Reco writes: Hi Reco, > On Tue, Apr 16, 2019 at 04:39:32PM +0200, Peter Wiersig wrote: >> VSZ is the Virtual Memory Size. (...), >>including memory that is swapped out, >> memory that is allocated, but not used, >> and memory that is from shared librari

Re: Need help analyzing (kernel?) memory usage and reclaiming RAM (Debian Stretch)

Martin Schwarz writes: > > Here's the output from some commands I hope to be helpful: > > The machine in this example is a RADIUS server but has not even gone > productive ... no incoming client requests yet. (But the problem is not > related to the RADIUS server software - OSC Radiator - since t

Re: A call to drop gnome

On Tue, 16 Apr 2019 16:54:02 +1000 Keith Bainbridge wrote: > Good afternoon > > > I've copied 2 bits from the discussion on synaptic and adding my 2 bobs' > worth towards the next review of whether gnome remains the default desktop. > > > > On 15/4/19 9:31 pm, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:> Becau

Re: A call to drop gnome

On Tue, 2019-04-16 at 18:48 +, Curt wrote: > On 2019-04-16, Matthew Crews wrote: > > This all stems back to Synaptic being removed from Debian Buster > > right? > > Well, all someone needs to do is update Synaptic with proper Wayland > > support. But judging by the upstream development, it app

Re: is xdvi broken?

rlhar...@oplink.net writes: > On 2019.04.16 14:20, Dan Ritter wrote: >> I would be looking at the keyboard. Is it possible that you have >> some stickiness in your bottom row modifiers? Unintentional >> presses and slow releases can cause symptoms like you have >> described. > > I thank you, kind

Re: A call to drop gnome

Reco writes: > Hi. > > On Tue, Apr 16, 2019 at 04:54:02PM +1000, Keith Bainbridge wrote: >> On 15/4/19 9:31 pm, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:> Because GNOME. GNOME's upstream >> said their word loud and clear, and that >> > word is - 'thou shall use Wayland for it is our favorite toy now'. > > I

Re: Accessing a host with variable IP addresses / connection types

On 17/04/19 3:03 AM, Celejar wrote: > Hi, > > I've been bedeviled by this question for a while, but have been unable > to figure out a clean, non-hackish solution. It may be an XY problem ... > > I have a system (laptop, running Debian) that is sometimes connected > directly to my LAN, and someti

Re: A few questions (buster and presentation)

On 17/04/19 6:19 AM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > GTK > * listaller > * synaptic (but not in Buster) Just looked up listaller. It seems to be * not in buster * only on arm64? * an installer for its own kind of packages, not debs. That's just from reading its page on packages.debian.org. Furt

Re: Accessing a host with variable IP addresses / connection types

On Wed, 17 Apr 2019 13:45:05 +1200 Richard Hector wrote: > On 17/04/19 3:03 AM, Celejar wrote: ... > > What I seem to want (but maybe XY?) is some way to adjust the host > > files (or dnsmasq's information) so that the hostname will resolve to > > the LAN address when the laptop is connected to

Re: is xdvi broken?

On 2019.04.16 19:21, Kushal Kumaran wrote: Do you have some kind of live-preview configuration? It's been a while since I did LaTeX, but I remember latex-mode had some configuration that allows to to continuously run (pdf)latex and keep a previewer running. I think the latexmk command does som

Re: A call to drop gnome

On 16/4/19 8:38 pm, Gian Uberto Lauri wrote: I say this is NOT freedom. R> The usual arguments apply. Don't like it - patch it. Patches are R> welcome. Say, "can you translate Odissey from ancient greek to Rovigo dialect?" That is a petty example (if you can, my kudos!), patching is not a thi

Re: Stretch with MATE DE - odd new file association problem

Hi, On Tue, Apr 16, 2019 at 01:15:07PM +0500, Alexander V. Makartsev wrote: > On 16.04.2019 12:08, Andy Smith wrote: > > I don't have seamonkey installed so haven't tried myself, but does > > it even run as root? > > > I don't use SeaMonkey either, but I'm pretty sure it does not need root > privi

Re: A call to drop gnome

On 16/4/19 9:01 pm, Reco wrote: And for those there should be at least a good document about doing it. Agreed. +1 - as long as somebody with a good dollop of Asperger syndrome can interpret it. -- Keith Bainbridge ke1th3...@gmail.com +61 (0)447 667 468

Re: A call to drop gnome

On 17/4/19 12:06 am, Reco wrote: They write and distribute free (as in freedom) software. It's popular, whenever it's due to the design or in spite of it. I happened across this a Wikipedia while clarifying another comment here: << GNOME 3 is the default desktop environment on many major Linux

RE: just mail forwarding to smart mailer

Hi, >> > I am looking for an "easy light weight just empty the local queue >> > and very very very easy thing: https://wiki.debian.org/sSMTP > > Note that sSMTP does not perform server certificate verification, thus > allowing, e.g., credential stealing via MITM attacks. Furthermore, it > negle

Re: A call to drop gnome as the default desktop

On 17/4/19 3:53 am, Matthew Crews wrote: As long as the Debian installer gives us a choice (and as long as a variety of Live images for each major DE are available), it doesn't really matter in the end. I do not think that Gnome should be removed from Debian as long as Gnome works fine. As far a

Re: Need help analyzing (kernel?) memory usage and reclaiming RAM (Debian Stretch)

On Wed, Apr 17, 2019 at 01:14:36AM +0200, Peter Wiersig wrote: > Reco writes: > > Hi Reco, > > > On Tue, Apr 16, 2019 at 04:39:32PM +0200, Peter Wiersig wrote: > >> VSZ is the Virtual Memory Size. (...), > >>including memory that is swapped out, > >> memory that is allocated, but not used, > ^

Re: Stretch with MATE DE - odd new file association problem

On 17.04.2019 8:51, Andy Smith wrote: > Hi, > > On Tue, Apr 16, 2019 at 01:15:07PM +0500, Alexander V. Makartsev wrote: >> On 16.04.2019 12:08, Andy Smith wrote: >>> I don't have seamonkey installed so haven't tried myself, but does >>> it even run as root? >>> >> I don't use SeaMonkey either, but

Sudden “operation not permitted”

(Apologies if this mail comes through poorly formatted for the list; my main machine is unavailable due to this problem and I’m writing on an iPad...) Running Stretch on a circa-2009 self-built machine which has run happily without serious issues since it was built, apart from the odd annoyance wi

Re: Accessing a host with variable IP addresses / connection types

Hi, I've been bedeviled by this question for a while, but have been unable to figure out a clean, non-hackish solution. It may be an XY problem ... I have a system (laptop, running Debian) that is sometimes connected directly to my LAN, and sometimes connected via VPN (wireguard, to the local

Re: A few questions (buster and presentation)

Quoting Richard Hector (2019-04-17 03:55:44) > On 17/04/19 6:19 AM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > > GTK > > * listaller > > * synaptic (but not in Buster) > > Just looked up listaller. > > It seems to be > * not in buster > * only on arm64? > * an installer for its own kind of packages, not de