On Tue, Apr 16, 2019 at 07:54:18PM +0200, Matthew Crews wrote: > I will concede that as long as Nvidia drivers do not play nicely with > Wayland (and they don't AFAIK), X will still be required.
That's very simplistic point of view. What about Wayland on non-x86, like ARM or MIPS (a hint - it does not work there, X does)? Or, for example, whatever they put instead of videocards in servers these days. Before you ask - I personally saw people putting X on servers. Or, something deceptively simple. Debian 10 in QEMU running Wayland. > But I did just read that Plasma 5.16 landed Nvidia patches that let it > work under Wayland with Nvidia, so maybe not that much longer in the > future? That's just scratching the surface of it. Contrary to the popular option, video card world does not ends at Intel, AMD and Nvidia. > (and unfortunately, people will still buy and use Nvidia cards, and want > support for them whether or not the drivers are FOSS). > > >> Some major ones even USE Wayland by default where possible. > > > > [Scratches head] SUSE? Surely that's what you meant? > > Off the top of my head, Fedora, SUSE and Ubuntu (as of 18.10) use > Wayland by default. Ok, I stand corrected. > >> This all stems back to Synaptic being removed from Debian Buster right? > > > > In this particular thread we discuss a wish of a Debian User, who in no > > uncertain terms expressed that GNOME should be dropped from the Debian. > > I mean, look at the Subject. > > Fair enough. I personally think KDE or even XFCE should be the default > DE for Debian, but thats just my opinion and the the topic of endless > debate. I see no debate. GNOME is a primary DE for Debian on i386 and amd64 for now, and had been for many years, barring that XFCE hiccup back in 2010 (only sid was affected). > We will be in circles debating what we think the default DE for > Debian should be. As long as the Debian installer gives us a choice (and > as long as a variety of Live images for each major DE are available), it > doesn't really matter in the end. [Carefully looks at synaptic] Does it? > I do not think that Gnome should be removed from Debian as long as Gnome > works fine. As far as I'm concerned, it does work fine. Perfect? No, but > good enough IMO. Such trolling topics are a rare source of pure entertainment here. I do not take them seriously, YMMV. > On this mailing list, though, I could see a progression from "why is > synaptic removed from Debian Buster?" to "Lets remove Gnome", hence why > I brought it up. Different topics, different OPs. Mostly the same participants, sure. Reco
