On Tuesday 16 April 2019 09:54:19 Reco wrote: > Hi. > > On Tue, Apr 16, 2019 at 09:35:32AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > R> The usual arguments apply. Don't like it - patch it. Patches > > > > are R> welcome. > > > > I wondered how long it would take for that phrase to emerge, so > > everyone in a position of control can hide behind it yet again. > > > > > > Say, "can you translate Odissey from ancient greek to Rovigo > > > > dialect?" > > > > > > Nope. But I can pay to someone who does, assuming that I want such > > > translation. Same as everyone else. > > > > > > > That is a petty example (if you can, my kudos!), patching is not > > > > a thing this easy to do. You have to be a programmer good > > > > enought, then you have to understando how the program works and > > > > how to change it. Then you have to write the changes and > > > > possibly test it against existing test cases, it requires > > > > skills, it requires time. > > > > > > ... and there are those who did it already. But then again, for me > > > GNOME project went off-rails (usability POV, not a technical one) > > > long time ago. Patching the GNOME to restore sane behaviour is > > > harder than avoiding it. > > > > +1000! > > Um, Gene. You are aware that I wrote both arguments, are you?
I thought it was a bit odd, but so many are using broken quoting, so I shrugged it off. > > > > > Gnome goal is noble, to let unskilled users use it. > > > > > > I recall hearing similar rhetoric 25 years ago. Some Operating > > > System who's name starts with big W, and it had 4-color flag for > > > logo. Some say that rise in popularity of said OS involved an > > > unspecified amount of unconventional off-market negotiations and a > > > bag of dirty tricks. > > > > We all heard the same "sermon" and ran like hell because we already > > were familiar with both their market controlling efforts and this > > same bag of dirty tricks a bar of good soap has little effect > > because you simply cannot make them palatable in a free market. > > > > I see Linus is drifting back to his older style, issuing the desktop > > people a whipping they are in need of over the weekend, saying 90% > > of why linux doesn't control the desktop is that there is not a > > standardized, one size fits all because it can do all things > > desktop. > > A link please, LKML will suffice. If Linus is back after that CoC > story in all his former glory - I need to see this. > > Reco I got unsubbed from lkml a couple years back for "interference". Seems like I read it on /. 2, maybe 3 days back. I don't think I'd call it former glory, but some leakage and frustration are quite evident. He was IMO. overdoing the nice guy bit just a bit. He needs to add a bit more iron to his control. I see the lack of that over the last year as being partially responsible for this present bruhaha. Or maybe thats just me? Your call. :) Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>
