Re: so much for your ascii only emails and 80 char lines :)

2017-07-19 Thread Reco
Hi. On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 03:36:12PM -0400, Henning Follmann wrote: > On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 08:00:10PM +0200, Nicolas George wrote: > > Le decadi 30 messidor, an CCXXV, mar...@martinbrandenburg.com a > > ecrit: > > > I don't read messages from you or in fact anyone at your domain, > > > ex

Re: dhclient or network problem

2017-07-19 Thread Dominique Dumont
On Monday, 10 July 2017 11:28:12 CEST Franz Angeli wrote: > for example interface name eno52 (tg3, Broadcom Limited NetXtreme > BCM5719 Gigabit Ethernet PCIe (rev 01) : I had a similar issue due to a missing firmware. I think it was on a broadcom card. Please check the kernel logs (journalctl -k

Re: Free software

2017-07-19 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 11:33:14PM -0500, Doug wrote: [...] > I thought I put this to bed, but apparently not. That's because the way you write suggests that you didn't "get" a couple of things which are very dear to many folks around here (note I s

Re: Free software

2017-07-19 Thread Fungi4All
> From: dmcgarr...@optonline.net > To: Gene Heskett , debian-user@lists.debian.org >> Cheers, Gene Heskett > I thought I put this to bed, but apparently not. You thought well because if we are clarifying the description of reality we can not utilize the grocery store logic of choice. Either one f

Setup Grub-Legacy on Jessie

2017-07-19 Thread Jimmy Johnson
Some of you may already know that setting up grub-legacy on Debian can be imposable, I've been thinking about this for awhile now and how to solve this problem that Ubuntu does not have. So I added trusty main to my Jessie repos and installed trusty grub and trusty grub-common, I had to do a f

kernel 4.11 from backports compilation

2017-07-19 Thread sp113438
Hi, With kernel-source 4.11.6-1~bpo9+1 from Stretch-backports I tried to compile a linux-image and linux-headers. The kernel succeeds, but the headers not: # make-kpkg --revision 1 --initrd kernel_image kernel_headers ... ... install: cannot stat 'REPORTING-BUGS': No such file or directory deb

How can I have a second Xorg session on vt8 as display :1 on debian 9.0 stretch ( probably related to logind and multiseating)

2017-07-19 Thread jg
Hello, I just switched from Ubuntu 14.04 to Debian 9.0 Stretch as OS. I used to have a second X session with display :1 by using this lightdm configuration /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf.d/10-xubuntu.conf [SeatDefaults] user-session=xubuntu [Seat:0] xserver-l

Re: How can I have a second Xorg session on vt8 as display :1 on debian 9.0 stretch ( probably related to logind and multiseating)

2017-07-19 Thread Teemu Likonen
j...@wn.de [2017-07-19 12:36:46+02] wrote: > I used to have a second X session with display :1 by using > this lightdm configuration /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf.d/10-xubuntu.conf > > [SeatDefaults] > user-session=xubuntu > > [Seat:0] > xserver-layout=default >

Re: funding & viability questions of GPL enforcement.

2017-07-19 Thread Alessandro Vesely
On Sun 16/Jul/2017 17:17:21 +0200 Martin Read wrote: > On 16/07/17 12:47, Alessandro Vesely wrote: >> May I ask, in passing, why Debian (for packages like apt, say) as well as >> Linux >> did not switch to GPLv3? Would such switch ease enforcement? > > Switching a project over from GPLv2-only to

Re: Free software

2017-07-19 Thread rhkramer
On Tuesday, July 18, 2017 09:38:16 PM Felix Miata wrote: > Actually in the USA that's false, at least WRT a property owner doing his > own work, but state and local governments have been following the federal > government's lead, producing many constitutionally impermissible > regulations for many

Re: multiple windows, not multiple tabs

2017-07-19 Thread rhkramer
On Wednesday, July 19, 2017 02:09:02 AM Felix Miata wrote: > FHDATA composed on 2017-07-18 21:30 (UTC-0600): > > this is a KDE 4.14.x question. > > > > a showstopper I need to find a remedy/fix > > or find myself another desktop. > > > > It seems that in KDE everything is single-instance! > > >

Re: multiple windows, not multiple tabs

2017-07-19 Thread Jimmy Johnson
On 07/19/2017 05:11 AM, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: I just tried entering "konsole" from the CLI in a konsole and also got a new instance. I just did a $gksu konsole in konsole and got a separate root konsole, you can put that in your menu if you want. -- Jimmy Johnson Ubuntu 14.04 LTS - KDE 4.

apt-get autoclean configuration

2017-07-19 Thread solitone
>From 'man apt-get': autoclean (and the auto-clean alias since 1.1) [...] The configuration option APT::Clean-Installed will prevent installed packages from being erased if it is set to off. I've just lost some cached package files, although they are in

Re: apt-get autoclean configuration

2017-07-19 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 02:51:28PM +0200, solitone wrote: > >From 'man apt-get': > > autoclean (and the auto-clean alias since 1.1) >[...] >The configuration >option APT::Clean-Installed will prevent installed packa

Re: apt-get autoclean configuration

2017-07-19 Thread solitone
On Wednesday, 19 July 2017 15:22:33 CEST to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > echo "APT::Clean-Installed no;" > /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/no-autoclean I've set it to "false", not to "no". The manual says "off", but didn't find any occurence of "on" and "off" in the other apt config files, just "true" or "false

Re: apt-get autoclean configuration

2017-07-19 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 03:48:03PM +0200, solitone wrote: > On Wednesday, 19 July 2017 15:22:33 CEST to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > echo "APT::Clean-Installed no;" > /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/no-autoclean > > I've set it to "false", not to "no". The manual s

Installation of debian/stretch 32-bit error

2017-07-19 Thread Hans
Hello, I tried to install debian 9 on an older computer with an IDE hdd. The installation went fine, until the installer wantet to install grub into the mbr. The problem: The installer sees the drive as /dev/sda and not, as it should be, as /dev/hda. Then I tried to install the bootloader usi

Re: Installation of debian/stretch 32-bit error

2017-07-19 Thread Steve McIntyre
Hans wrote: > >I tried to install debian 9 on an older computer with an IDE hdd. The >installation went fine, until the installer wantet to install grub into the >mbr. > >The problem: The installer sees the drive as /dev/sda and not, as it should >be, as /dev/hda. > >Then I tried to install the

Re: Installation of debian/stretch 32-bit error

2017-07-19 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Hans wrote: > I tried to install debian 9 on an older computer with an IDE hdd. The > installation went fine, until the installer wantet to install grub into the > mbr. > [...] > Is this issue known at all? The chances for recognition increases if tangible info is given. E.g. original messa

Re: Installation of debian/stretch 32-bit error

2017-07-19 Thread Hans
Hi Steve, > The hdX naming scheme went away a long time ago - all normal disks > should be showing us as sdX whether they're connected via IDE (PATA), > SATA, SCSI or whatever. > > Did the installer actually fail to install the bootloader? If so, what > errors did you get? The text gui offered m

Apt-get Upgrade Problem in Stretch?

2017-07-19 Thread Patrick Bartek
Getting no results from apt-get upgrade after a week. Can install apps, etc., but get no security or stretch-update "fixes," etc. I find this unusual. Did a mail list archive search for this, but didn't find anything specific. Or did I miss the solution? My Test Setup: Stretch Stable 64-bit fr

Re: Installation of debian/stretch 32-bit error

2017-07-19 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Hans wrote: > No one (except me) will install debian 9 on an IDE drive nowadays! That's not the point. IDE drives are still supported. But they appear as /dev/sdN rather than as /dev/hdX. IDE is well practiced, because the man pages of qemu-system-i386 and qemu-system-x86_64 say: The Q

Re: Setup Grub-Legacy on Jessie

2017-07-19 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Le 19/07/2017 à 11:30, Jimmy Johnson a écrit : Some of you may already know that setting up grub-legacy on Debian can be imposable, Imposable ? What would impose it ? (...) Questions or suggestions? One question : why use GRUB legacy ? One suggestion : upgrade.

Re: Apt-get Upgrade Problem in Stretch?

2017-07-19 Thread Dejan Jocic
On 19-07-17, Patrick Bartek wrote: > Getting no results from apt-get upgrade after a week. Can install apps, > etc., but get no security or stretch-update "fixes," etc. I find > this unusual. Did a mail list archive search for this, but didn't find > anything specific. Or did I miss the solution

Re: Installation of debian/stretch 32-bit error

2017-07-19 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Le 19/07/2017 à 18:58, Hans a écrit : The text gui offered me MBR, /dev/sda1 (mounted to /boot) and /dev/sda5 (mounted to /), then I choose mbr and got a red screen, with the very useful information "The grub bootloader could not be installed". You can get more useful information in the instal

Re: Installation of debian/stretch 32-bit error

2017-07-19 Thread Hans
Hi Thomas, > The problem is with GRUB's refusal or failure to accept the disk in > the state it is. > > What do you get as output if you run on the rescue system: > > fdisk -lu /dev/hda > > I am sorry, that I will not be able to check this out any more. As it was not my computer, I installe

Re: Diskless Debian stretch ISCSI boot (uefi) and shutdown hanging problem

2017-07-19 Thread Dan Ritter
On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 07:40:01AM +0200, Franz Angeli wrote: > Hi, > > i have one diskless server able to boot with ISCSI, uefi is configures > to reach iscsi target and volume correctly; > > i installed Debian 9 with debian installer ad all works fine, at the > end of installation process i rem

Re: Apt-get Upgrade Problem in Stretch?

2017-07-19 Thread Dan Ritter
On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 10:29:02AM -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote: > Getting no results from apt-get upgrade after a week. Can install apps, > etc., but get no security or stretch-update "fixes," etc. I find > this unusual. Did a mail list archive search for this, but didn't find > anything specifi

Re: Setup Grub-Legacy on Jessie

2017-07-19 Thread Felix Miata
Jimmy Johnson composed on 2017-07-19 02:30 (UTC-0700): > Some of you may already know that setting up grub-legacy on Debian can > be imposable, I've been thinking about this for awhile now and how to > solve this problem that Ubuntu does not have. > So I added trusty main to my Jessie repos and

Re: Diskless Debian stretch ISCSI boot (uefi) and shutdown hanging problem

2017-07-19 Thread Christian Seiler
Hi, (I'm one of the maintainers of the open-iscsi package in Debian.) On 07/19/2017 07:40 AM, Franz Angeli wrote: > i have one diskless server able to boot with ISCSI, uefi is configures > to reach iscsi target and volume correctly; > > i installed Debian 9 with debian installer ad all works fin

Re: Installation of debian/stretch 32-bit error

2017-07-19 Thread Felix Miata
Hans composed on 2017-07-19 18:58 (UTC+0200): >> The hdX naming scheme went away a long time ago - all normal disks >> should be showing us as sdX whether they're connected via IDE (PATA), >> SATA, SCSI or whatever. >> Did the installer actually fail to install the bootloader? If so, what >> erro

Re: Apt-get Upgrade Problem in Stretch?

2017-07-19 Thread Felix Miata
Patrick Bartek composed on 2017-07-19 10:29 (UTC-0700): > Getting no results from apt-get upgrade after a week. Can install apps, > etc., but get no security or stretch-update "fixes," etc. I find > this unusual. Did a mail list archive search for this, but didn't find > anything specific. Or d

Avogdro v-1.2.0 Won't Open in v-9.0.0

2017-07-19 Thread Stephen P. Molnar
I have just upgraded Debian platform to 9.0.0 (from 8.8.0). The distribution Avogadro and dependencies installed (via Synaptic) without complaint. However, here is the run log: comp@AbNormal:~$ avogadro "Avogadro version: 1.2.0 Git: LibAvogadro version:1.2.0 Git:" Locale: "en_US"

Re: Apt-get Upgrade Problem in Stretch?

2017-07-19 Thread Dejan Jocic
On 19-07-17, Felix Miata wrote: > Patrick Bartek composed on 2017-07-19 10:29 (UTC-0700): > > > Getting no results from apt-get upgrade after a week. Can install apps, > > etc., but get no security or stretch-update "fixes," etc. I find > > this unusual. Did a mail list archive search for this,

Re: Apt-get Upgrade Problem in Stretch?

2017-07-19 Thread Fungi4All
> From: mrma...@earthlink.net > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Patrick Bartek composed on 2017-07-19 10:29 (UTC-0700): >> Getting no results from apt-get upgrade after a week. Can install apps, >> etc., but get no security or stretch-update "fixes," etc. I find >> this unusual. Did a mail list

Re: Setup Grub-Legacy on Jessie

2017-07-19 Thread Curt
On 2017-07-19, Pascal Hambourg wrote: > Le 19/07/2017 à 11:30, Jimmy Johnson a écrit : >> Some of you may already know that setting up grub-legacy on Debian can >> be imposable, > > Imposable ? What would impose it ? I think he meant impossible. In fact, I read impossible (and only reread the ph

Re: Apt-get Upgrade Problem in Stretch?

2017-07-19 Thread Brian
On Wed 19 Jul 2017 at 15:18:20 -0400, Fungi4All wrote: > > From: mrma...@earthlink.net > > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > > Patrick Bartek composed on 2017-07-19 10:29 (UTC-0700): > >> Getting no results from apt-get upgrade after a week. Can install apps, > >> etc., but get no security or str

Re: Apt-get Upgrade Problem in Stretch?

2017-07-19 Thread Felix Miata
Fungi4All composed on 2017-07-19 15:18 (UTC-0400): >> mrma...@earthlink.net composed: ... >> Did you miss that in Stretch apt is preferred to apt-get? > But will there be different results with apt upgrade than with apt-get? Will: I have no idea. Can:Yes. Apt and apt-get are not identica

Re: Apt-get Upgrade Problem in Stretch?

2017-07-19 Thread Brian
On Wed 19 Jul 2017 at 15:49:47 -0400, Felix Miata wrote: > Fungi4All composed on 2017-07-19 15:18 (UTC-0400): > > >> mrma...@earthlink.net composed: > ... > >> Did you miss that in Stretch apt is preferred to apt-get? > > > But will there be different results with apt upgrade than with apt-get?

Re: Apt-get Upgrade Problem in Stretch?

2017-07-19 Thread Fungi4All
> From: mrma...@earthlink.net > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Fungi4All composed on 2017-07-19 15:18 (UTC-0400): >>> mrma...@earthlink.net composed: > ... >>> Did you miss that in Stretch apt is preferred to apt-get? >> But will there be different results with apt upgrade than with apt-get? >

Re: Apt-get Upgrade Problem in Stretch?

2017-07-19 Thread Felix Miata
Brian composed on 2017-07-19 20:54 (UTC+0100): > On Wed 19 Jul 2017 at 15:49:47 -0400, Felix Miata wrote: >> Fungi4All composed on 2017-07-19 15:18 (UTC-0400): >> > But will there be different results with apt upgrade than with apt-get? >> Will:I have no idea. >> Can: Yes. >> Apt and

Re: Setup Grub-Legacy on Jessie

2017-07-19 Thread Jimmy Johnson
On 07/19/2017 11:04 AM, Pascal Hambourg wrote: Le 19/07/2017 à 11:30, Jimmy Johnson a écrit : Some of you may already know that setting up grub-legacy on Debian can be imposable, Imposable ? What would impose it ? Debian grub-legacy setup is no longer supported, yet it can still be install

Re: Apt-get Upgrade Problem in Stretch?

2017-07-19 Thread Brad Rogers
On Wed, 19 Jul 2017 20:54:28 +0100 Brian wrote: Hello Brian, >Those sort of statements are begging for an example of the diferences >with an upgrade or package installation. Will we see it? I seem to recall there have been several examples over the past year or so on this very list. A search

Re: Apt-get Upgrade Problem in Stretch?

2017-07-19 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Wed, 19 Jul 2017 20:14:28 +0200 Dejan Jocic wrote: > On 19-07-17, Patrick Bartek wrote: > > Getting no results from apt-get upgrade after a week. Can install > > apps, etc., but get no security or stretch-update "fixes," etc. I > > find this unusual. Did a mail list archive search for this,

Re: Apt-get Upgrade Problem in Stretch?

2017-07-19 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Wed, 19 Jul 2017 14:32:04 -0400 Dan Ritter wrote: > On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 10:29:02AM -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote: > > Getting no results from apt-get upgrade after a week. Can install > > apps, etc., but get no security or stretch-update "fixes," etc. I > > find this unusual. Did a mail l

Re: Apt-get Upgrade Problem in Stretch?

2017-07-19 Thread Jimmy Johnson
On 07/19/2017 01:35 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote: On Wed, 19 Jul 2017 20:14:28 +0200 Dejan Jocic wrote: On 19-07-17, Patrick Bartek wrote: Getting no results from apt-get upgrade after a week. Can install apps, etc., but get no security or stretch-update "fixes," etc. I find this unusual. Did

Re: Apt-get Upgrade Problem in Stretch?

2017-07-19 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Wed, 19 Jul 2017 14:57:50 -0400 Felix Miata wrote: > Patrick Bartek composed on 2017-07-19 10:29 (UTC-0700): > > > Getting no results from apt-get upgrade after a week. Can install > > apps, etc., but get no security or stretch-update "fixes," etc. I > > find this unusual. Did a mail list

Re: apt-get autoclean configuration

2017-07-19 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 03:48:03PM +0200, solitone wrote: > On Wednesday, 19 July 2017 15:22:33 CEST to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > echo "APT::Clean-Installed no;" > /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/no-autoclean > > I've set it to "false", not to "no". The manual s

Re: Apt-get Upgrade Problem in Stretch?

2017-07-19 Thread Brian
On Wed 19 Jul 2017 at 16:20:21 -0400, Felix Miata wrote: > Brian composed on 2017-07-19 20:54 (UTC+0100): > > > On Wed 19 Jul 2017 at 15:49:47 -0400, Felix Miata wrote: > > >> Fungi4All composed on 2017-07-19 15:18 (UTC-0400): > > >> > But will there be different results with apt upgrade than w

Re: Apt-get Upgrade Problem in Stretch?

2017-07-19 Thread Fungi4All
From: nemomm...@gmail.com > On Wed, 19 Jul 2017 14:32:04 -0400 Dan Ritter > wrote: >> On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 10:29:02AM -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote: >> > Getting no results from apt-get upgrade after a week. Can install >> > apps, etc., but get no security or stretch-update "fixes," etc. I >> >

Re: funding & viability questions of GPL enforcement.

2017-07-19 Thread Martin Read
On 19/07/17 12:17, Alessandro Vesely wrote: One my wonder why GRSecurity is not (optionally) included in Linux. For a variety of reasons relating to the personalities and opinions of the people who would be involved - on both sides - in making it happen. It should be noted that some people w

Re: Apt-get Upgrade Problem in Stretch?

2017-07-19 Thread Fungi4All
> From: a...@cityscape.co.uk > On Wed 19 Jul 2017 at 16:20:21 -0400, Felix Miata wrote: > One picture is worth a thousand words: > Do you want to continue? [Y/n] n > Which should be trusted more. apt-get or apt? I've always liked apt. It is four keystrokes shorter

Re: Parler est comme jouer au tennis avec des réceptions et envois de la balle Lena

2017-07-19 Thread Samba toucouleur Mbaye
moins que moi peut etre parlons en Le Samedi 8 juillet 2017 7h55, Lena Seriyati a écrit : J’adore les balles. Tu veux qu’on parle? http://bit.ly/2sXAxJX

Re: Apt-get Upgrade Problem in Stretch?

2017-07-19 Thread Fungi4All
> From: a...@cityscape.co.uk > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > One picture is worth a thousand words: Here is a picture from my backup machine $ sudo apt upgrade Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done Calculating upgrade... Done The following NE

Re: Free software

2017-07-19 Thread Ric Moore
On 07/18/2017 09:38 PM, Felix Miata wrote: but state and local governments have been following the federal government's lead, producing many constitutionally impermissible regulations for many decades, and getting away with it because of prohibitive legal and time expense involved in contesting i

Re: Free software

2017-07-19 Thread Ric Moore
On 07/19/2017 12:33 AM, Doug wrote: All the wonderful Linux programmers have had YEARS to modify it and make it better than what Nvidia provides, but it seems that they haven't succeeded. I am very happy with my Nvidia cards and Nvidia drivers. What the devil is everybody bitching about? And, of

Re: Apt-get Upgrade Problem in Stretch?

2017-07-19 Thread Felix Miata
Fungi4All composed on 2017-07-19 17:39 (UTC-0400): >> Brian composed: >> One picture is worth a thousand words: ... > Here is a picture from my backup machine > $ sudo apt upgrade ... > 27 upgraded, 3 newly installed, 0 to remove and 2 not upgraded. > Need to get 68.5 MB of archives.> After this

Re: Installation of debian/stretch 32-bit error

2017-07-19 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Le 19/07/2017 à 20:54, Felix Miata a écrit : On an old PATA disk, as you call IDE or hda, the partitioning scheme is very likely the cause of the failure to install to sda, as such schemes can more frequently than we'd like provide insufficient room on the boot track to fit Grub2's bloated loade

Re: Free software

2017-07-19 Thread Joel Rees
FTR On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 5:46 PM, Fungi4All wrote: > >>> From: dmcgarr...@optonline.net >>> To: Gene Heskett , debian-user@lists.debian.org >>> [ important stuff, check the archives] >>> Cheers, Gene Heskett >> I thought I put this to bed, but apparently not. >> > > You thought well because

Re: Free software

2017-07-19 Thread Doug
On 07/19/2017 05:44 PM, Joel Rees wrote: This is another aspect of "closed source" gratis technology that is often swept under the rug. It used to be, for instance, that a TV in the US had a full diagram of working parts in the back case, so that the TV could still be fixed even if the manufac

Re: Apt-get Upgrade Problem in Stretch?

2017-07-19 Thread Brian
On Wed 19 Jul 2017 at 18:21:15 -0400, Felix Miata wrote: > Fungi4All composed on 2017-07-19 17:39 (UTC-0400): > > >> Brian composed: > >> One picture is worth a thousand words: > ... > > Here is a picture from my backup machine > > $ sudo apt upgrade > ... > > 27 upgraded, 3 newly installed, 0 t

Re: Free software

2017-07-19 Thread Joel Rees
On Thu, Jul 20, 2017 at 8:04 AM, Doug wrote: > > On 07/19/2017 05:44 PM, Joel Rees wrote: >> >> >> This is another aspect of "closed source" gratis technology that is >> often swept under the rug. >> >> It used to be, for instance, that a TV in the US had a full diagram >> of working parts in the

Re: Installation of debian/stretch 32-bit error

2017-07-19 Thread Felix Miata
Pascal Hambourg composed on 2017-07-20 0:40 (UTC+0200): > Felix Miata composed: >> ...is not >> always adequate. 240/63, another very common configuration... > IME, 31 KiB is still enough to contain a core image when not needing > costly features such as btrfs, LVM or RAID support. That's what

Re: Free software

2017-07-19 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 19 July 2017 18:16:16 Ric Moore wrote: > On 07/19/2017 12:33 AM, Doug wrote: > > All the wonderful Linux programmers > > have had YEARS to modify it and make it better than what > > Nvidia provides, but it seems that they haven't succeeded. > > I am very happy with my Nvidia cards and

Re: Free software

2017-07-19 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 19 July 2017 19:04:33 Doug wrote: > On 07/19/2017 05:44 PM, Joel Rees wrote: > > This is another aspect of "closed source" gratis technology that is > > often swept under the rug. > > > > It used to be, for instance, that a TV in the US had a full diagram > > of working parts in the b

Re: Apt-get Upgrade Problem in Stretch?

2017-07-19 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Wed, 19 Jul 2017 13:47:27 -0700 Jimmy Johnson wrote: > On 07/19/2017 01:35 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote: > > On Wed, 19 Jul 2017 20:14:28 +0200 Dejan Jocic > > wrote: > > > >> On 19-07-17, Patrick Bartek wrote: > >>> Getting no results from apt-get upgrade after a week. Can install > >>> apps,

Re: Apt-get Upgrade Problem in Stretch?

2017-07-19 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Wed, 19 Jul 2017 17:13:06 -0400 Fungi4All wrote: > From: nemomm...@gmail.com > > > On Wed, 19 Jul 2017 14:32:04 -0400 Dan Ritter > > wrote: > >> On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 10:29:02AM -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote: > >> > Getting no results from apt-get upgrade after a week. Can install > >> > app

Re: Hibernate in stretch

2017-07-19 Thread Michael Biebl
Am 18.07.2017 um 05:02 schrieb behrad eslami: > Hi > > Im installed stretch in thinkpad x260 and hibernate not work corrctly. > When poweron laptop, resume hibernated desktop and suddeny go to the > display manager and after login all application was closed > > Graphical enviroment: > i3 > light

Re: Apt-get Upgrade Problem in Stretch?

2017-07-19 Thread Jimmy Johnson
On 07/19/2017 07:05 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote: On Wed, 19 Jul 2017 13:47:27 -0700 Jimmy Johnson wrote: On 07/19/2017 01:35 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote: On Wed, 19 Jul 2017 20:14:28 +0200 Dejan Jocic wrote: On 19-07-17, Patrick Bartek wrote: Getting no results from apt-get upgrade after a week

Re: Apt-get Upgrade Problem in Stretch?

2017-07-19 Thread David Wright
On Wed 19 Jul 2017 at 14:57:50 (-0400), Felix Miata wrote: > Patrick Bartek composed on 2017-07-19 10:29 (UTC-0700): > > > Getting no results from apt-get upgrade after a week. Can install apps, > > etc., but get no security or stretch-update "fixes," etc. I find > > this unusual. Did a mail li

Re: Diskless Debian stretch ISCSI boot (uefi) and shutdown hanging problem

2017-07-19 Thread Franz Angeli
Hi, you are correct, in /etc/network/interfaces i have interface eno1 configured with DHCP and after removing configuration system shutdown correctly. Thank you! BR 2017-07-19 20:50 GMT+02:00 Christian Seiler : > Hi, > > (I'm one of the maintainers of the open-iscsi package in Debian.) > > On 0

Can debian-live-9.0.1-i386-lxde be made to install from USB?

2017-07-19 Thread Erik Christiansen
On 18.07.17 11:06, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > On the other hand, if you just want to _install_ Debian rather than to > run it as "live" system, then you should for now use one of the > installation ISOs. > E.g. the small one which is just enough to fetch more packages from the > internet: > > > ht

Re: Apt-get Upgrade Problem in Stretch?

2017-07-19 Thread davidson
On Wed, 19 Jul 2017, Patrick Bartek wrote: Getting no results from apt-get upgrade after a week. Can install apps, etc., but get no security or stretch-update "fixes," etc. I find this unusual. And so, understandably, you feel prompted to seek confirmation that there have, in fact, been no u

Re: Apt-get Upgrade Problem in Stretch?

2017-07-19 Thread Dejan Jocic
On 19-07-17, Patrick Bartek wrote: > On Wed, 19 Jul 2017 13:47:27 -0700 Jimmy Johnson > wrote: > > > On 07/19/2017 01:35 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote: > > > On Wed, 19 Jul 2017 20:14:28 +0200 Dejan Jocic > > > wrote: > > > > > >> On 19-07-17, Patrick Bartek wrote: > > >>> Getting no results from ap

Re: Setup Grub-Legacy on Jessie

2017-07-19 Thread Curt
On 2017-07-19, Curt wrote: > On 2017-07-19, Pascal Hambourg wrote: >> Le 19/07/2017 à 11:30, Jimmy Johnson a écrit : >>> Some of you may already know that setting up grub-legacy on Debian can >>> be imposable, >> >> Imposable ? What would impose it ? > I think he meant impossible. In fact, I re