On Wed 19 Jul 2017 at 16:20:21 -0400, Felix Miata wrote: > Brian composed on 2017-07-19 20:54 (UTC+0100): > > > On Wed 19 Jul 2017 at 15:49:47 -0400, Felix Miata wrote: > > >> Fungi4All composed on 2017-07-19 15:18 (UTC-0400): > > >> > But will there be different results with apt upgrade than with apt-get? > > >> Will: I have no idea. > > >> Can: Yes. > > >> Apt and apt-get are not identical twins. > > > Those sort of statements are begging for an example of the diferences > > with an upgrade or package installation. Will we see it? > > Again, I have no idea. It would take a lot of time to catch it happening, then > restore the previous state so as to be able to actually have a chance to find > what happened to cause it and subsequently be able to repeat at will. All I > can > say is I have a bunch of Stretch installations, and there were several > occasions > where, in order to see if differences were possible, after an 'apt-get update; > apt-get upgrade' I immediately followed up with 'apt update; apt upgrade' and > more packages were replaced/installed/purged. Possibly along the way to final > Stretch release whatever caused or allowed those differences became possible > no > longer?
One picture is worth a thousand words: root@stretch:~# apt-get install exim4 Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done The following additional packages will be installed: exim4-base exim4-config exim4-daemon-light guile-2.0-libs libfribidi0 libgc1c2 libgsasl7 libkyotocabinet16v5 liblzo2-2 libmailutils5 libmariadbclient18 libntlm0 libpython2.7 libpython2.7-minimal libpython2.7-stdlib mailutils mailutils-common mysql-common psmisc Suggested packages: eximon4 exim4-doc-html | exim4-doc-info spf-tools-perl swaks mailutils-mh mailutils-doc The following NEW packages will be installed: exim4 exim4-base exim4-config exim4-daemon-light guile-2.0-libs libfribidi0 libgc1c2 libgsasl7 libkyotocabinet16v5 liblzo2-2 libmailutils5 libmariadbclient18 libntlm0 libpython2.7 libpython2.7-minimal libpython2.7-stdlib mailutils mailutils-common mysql-common psmisc 0 upgraded, 20 newly installed, 0 to remove and 58 not upgraded. Need to get 11.0 MB/11.5 MB of archives. After this operation, 42.4 MB of additional disk space will be used. Do you want to continue? [Y/n] n Abort. root@stretch:~# root@stretch:~# root@stretch:~# root@stretch:~# apt install exim4 Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done The following additional packages will be installed: exim4-base exim4-config exim4-daemon-light guile-2.0-libs libfribidi0 libgc1c2 libgsasl7 libkyotocabinet16v5 liblzo2-2 libmailutils5 libmariadbclient18 libntlm0 libpython2.7 libpython2.7-minimal libpython2.7-stdlib mailutils mailutils-common mysql-common psmisc Suggested packages: eximon4 exim4-doc-html | exim4-doc-info spf-tools-perl swaks mailutils-mh mailutils-doc The following NEW packages will be installed: exim4 exim4-base exim4-config exim4-daemon-light guile-2.0-libs libfribidi0 libgc1c2 libgsasl7 libkyotocabinet16v5 liblzo2-2 libmailutils5 libmariadbclient18 libntlm0 libpython2.7 libpython2.7-minimal libpython2.7-stdlib mailutils mailutils-common mysql-common psmisc 0 upgraded, 20 newly installed, 0 to remove and 58 not upgraded. Need to get 11.0 MB/11.5 MB of archives. After this operation, 42.4 MB of additional disk space will be used. Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Which should be trusted more. apt-get or apt?
