Mark Neyhart wrote on 07/23/2015 02:10 PM:
On 07/23/2015 08:45 AM, Dennis Wicks wrote:
Greetings,
Frequently when I run a command in a terminal window (Debian 8.1 Xfce)
I get a bunch of errors.
/bin/bash: _parse_usage: line 16: syntax error near unexpected token
`('
This will happen if you
On Sat, 25 Jul 2015 20:03:59 +0200
Erwan David wrote:
> To access some appliances/devices whose https console only knows weak
> ciphers (but on a protected network), I need a browser accepting those
> weak ciphers (less I go to each device with a serial cable to enable the
> clear connection).
>
Dne So 25. července 2015 21:49:17, Stephen Powell napsal(a):
> Reposting, since the original post seems to have gotten lost in
> the mail.
>
> I've got an annoying problem. Every time I login to the XFCE desktop,
> an application starts that I don't want. (It happens to be abiword.)
> I close th
Hi there
Stephen Powell wrote:
Reposting, since the original post seems to have gotten lost in
the mail.
I've got an annoying problem. Every time I login to the XFCE desktop,
an application starts that I don't want. (It happens to be abiword.)
I close the application window and go on, but i
On Sunday 26 July 2015 05:09:37 CaT wrote:
> On Sat, Jul 25, 2015 at 11:32:53PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > It is, once ntpdate has slammed the correct time into the system at boot
> > time, then ntp takes over.
>
> Unless I misremember, you don't even need ntpdate. Starting ntp with
> -g will d
On Sunday, 26 July 2015 05:30:04 UTC+1, CaT wrote:
> On Sat, Jul 25, 2015 at 11:32:53PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > It is, once ntpdate has slammed the correct time into the system at boot
> > time, then ntp takes over.
>
> Unless I misremember, you don't even need ntpdate. Starting ntp with
On Sun, 26 Jul 2015 09:32:36 +0200
Leonardo wrote:
Hello Leonardo,
>Try: “rm -Rf .config/autostart/"
Bad idea; That will remove everything from the directory. There may be
things in there that Steve *wants* to autostart.
Now, I'm sure Steve is smart enough to figure it out, but it's best to
On Sun, Jul 26, 2015 at 10:54:35AM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> On Sunday 26 July 2015 05:09:37 CaT wrote:
> > On Sat, Jul 25, 2015 at 11:32:53PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > It is, once ntpdate has slammed the correct time into the system at boot
> > > time, then ntp takes over.
> >
> > Unless I
On Sun, Jul 26, 2015 at 02:03:48AM +0200, Michael Biebl wrote:
> Am 25.07.2015 um 21:26 schrieb Holger Schramm:
> > Am 25.07.2015 um 20:52 schrieb John J. Boyer:
> >> I am wondering if my Jessie system is updating its clock regularly. It
> >> gives a
> >> different time than my Windows box. What
On 2015-07-26 02:31:45 +0200, Michael Biebl wrote:
> You can have a client, which is a daemon.
> ntp implements both, an NTP client and server.
> systemd-timesyncd only implements a client (running as daemon).
> chrony, fwiw, is another client (running as daemon).
> ntpdate is a client (triggered v
CaT writes:
> Unless I misremember, you don't even need ntpdate. Starting ntp with
> -g will do just fine (and it's the default config - I add -N). I don't
> even have ntpdate installed.
Yes. Ntpdate is obsolete.
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anxiousmac writes:
> Years ago ... we didn't all have always-on connections.
Chrony was developed to solve that problem.
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On Sun, 26 Jul 2015 10:54:35 +0100
Lisi Reisz wrote:
> But that is for wheezy and earlier. systemd is, of course, different.
Maybe the list should implement a rule, that people asking a question tell us
whether they are running systemd or not.
Given that the advent of systemd has, as a stroke
Am 26.07.2015 um 13:44 schrieb Chris Bannister:
> On Sun, Jul 26, 2015 at 02:03:48AM +0200, Michael Biebl wrote:
>> Am 25.07.2015 um 21:26 schrieb Holger Schramm:
>>> Am 25.07.2015 um 20:52 schrieb John J. Boyer:
I am wondering if my Jessie system is updating its clock regularly. It
give
Vincent Lefevre writes:
> Unfortunately none of them is secure, I mean: some attacker won't tend
> to make the date on your machine incorrect because of lack of
> authentication.
http://www.ntp.org/ntpfaq/NTP-s-config-adv.htm
See section 6.6.2, Authentication
Even without it, though, sucessfully
On Sunday 26 July 2015 13:17:02 Renaud OLGIATI wrote:
> On Sun, 26 Jul 2015 10:54:35 +0100
>
> Lisi Reisz wrote:
> > But that is for wheezy and earlier. systemd is, of course, different.
>
> Maybe the list should implement a rule, that people asking a question tell
> us whether they are running
Michael Biebl wrote:
> Am 26.07.2015 um 13:44 schrieb Chris Bannister:
>> On Sun, Jul 26, 2015 at 02:03:48AM +0200, Michael Biebl wrote:
>>> Am 25.07.2015 um 21:26 schrieb Holger Schramm:
Am 25.07.2015 um 20:52 schrieb John J. Boyer:
> I am wondering if my Jessie system is updating its c
On Sunday 26 July 2015 13:38:45 Michael Biebl wrote:
> Am 26.07.2015 um 13:44 schrieb Chris Bannister:
> > On Sun, Jul 26, 2015 at 02:03:48AM +0200, Michael Biebl wrote:
> >> Am 25.07.2015 um 21:26 schrieb Holger Schramm:
> >>> Am 25.07.2015 um 20:52 schrieb John J. Boyer:
> I am wondering if
On Sun, Jul 26, 2015 at 02:38:45PM +0200, Michael Biebl wrote:
> Am 26.07.2015 um 13:44 schrieb Chris Bannister:
> > On Sun, Jul 26, 2015 at 02:03:48AM +0200, Michael Biebl wrote:
> >>>
> >>> If you are using systemd, look for timedatectl. Settings are at
> >>> /etc/systemd/timesyncd.conf
> >>
> >>
On 2015-07-26 07:53:45 -0500, John Hasler wrote:
> Vincent Lefevre writes:
> > Unfortunately none of them is secure, I mean: some attacker won't tend
> > to make the date on your machine incorrect because of lack of
> > authentication.
>
> http://www.ntp.org/ntpfaq/NTP-s-config-adv.htm
>
> See se
On Sun 26 Jul 2015 at 14:57:02 +0200, Sven Hartge wrote:
> Michael Biebl wrote:
>
> > The assumption here is, that if the admin explicitly installed ntp, it
> > should be preferred of systemd-timesyncd.
> > See
>
> > /lib/systemd/system/systemd-timesyncd.service.d/disable-with-time-daemon.conf
On Sun 26 Jul 2015 at 13:59:02 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> On Sunday 26 July 2015 13:38:45 Michael Biebl wrote:
> >
> > Yes. You actually need to do that. As long as ntp is installed,
> > systemd-timesyncd won't start.
> > The assumption here is, that if the admin explicitly installed ntp, it
> > s
Hi.
On Sat, 25 Jul 2015 20:03:59 +0200
Erwan David wrote:
> To access some appliances/devices whose https console only knows weak
> ciphers (but on a protected network), I need a browser accepting those
> weak ciphers (less I go to each device with a serial cable to enable the
> clear connectio
On 2015-07-26 14:25:20 +0100, Brian wrote:
> On Sun 26 Jul 2015 at 13:59:02 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> > On Sunday 26 July 2015 13:38:45 Michael Biebl wrote:
> > >
> > > Yes. You actually need to do that. As long as ntp is installed,
> > > systemd-timesyncd won't start.
> > > The assumption here is
On Sun 26 Jul 2015 at 15:39:48 +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote:
> On 2015-07-26 14:25:20 +0100, Brian wrote:
> > On Sun 26 Jul 2015 at 13:59:02 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> > > On Sunday 26 July 2015 13:38:45 Michael Biebl wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Yes. You actually need to do that. As long as ntp is inst
On Sun, 26 Jul 2015, Michael Biebl wrote:
Yes. You actually need to do that. As long as ntp is
installed, systemd-timesyncd won't start.
I'd like to suggest that if I were a vindictive,
morally shallow person I would be rushing back into
this thread to point out: "Oh look! Another reason why
On Sunday 26 July 2015 14:52:56 Bob Bernstein wrote:
> Another reason why
> the correct answer to the OP's question is NOT "ntp."
The question was:
"What package contains the time daemon?"
It may have been an X-Y question, but the answer to the question actually
asked, was "ntp".
Lisi
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Am 26.07.2015 um 15:39 schrieb Vincent Lefevre:
> On 2015-07-26 14:25:20 +0100, Brian wrote:
>> On Sun 26 Jul 2015 at 13:59:02 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote:
>>> On Sunday 26 July 2015 13:38:45 Michael Biebl wrote:
Yes. You actually need to do that. As long as ntp is installed,
systemd-tim
Am 26.07.2015 um 14:57 schrieb Lisi Reisz:
> Yes, on my one systemd box, I had a problem with which no-one could help me.
>
> I do not allege that systemd directly caused it, but that the advent of
> systemd caused a lot that had worked one way before, to have to work
> differently now; that th
Systemd-timesyncd is not a replacement for Ntpd or Chrony. It is just
an SNTP client similar to that used by Microsoft. It queries a single
server and does no error checking or authentication. Basically, it
replaces a cron job running Ntpdate.
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> It may have been an X-Y question, but the answer to the question
> actually asked, was "ntp".
That is *an* answer. The full answer is that the Chrony and Ntp
packages provide time daemons. Systemd-timesyncd provides an SNTP
client which is probably adequate for most users.
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On Sunday 26 July 2015 15:14:03 Michael Biebl wrote:
> Am 26.07.2015 um 14:57 schrieb Lisi Reisz:
> > Yes, on my one systemd box, I had a problem with which no-one could help
> > me.
> >
> > I do not allege that systemd directly caused it, but that the advent of
> > systemd caused a lot that had wo
I wrote:
> http://www.ntp.org/ntpfaq/NTP-s-config-adv.htm
>
> See section 6.6.2, Authentication
Vincent Lefevre writes:
> I don't see how this can work with public NTP servers!
If you need authentication you need to use trusted servers.
http://www.nist.gov/pml/div688/grp40/auth-ntp.cfm
http://w
On 20150726_0252-0700, anxious...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Sunday, 26 July 2015 05:30:04 UTC+1, CaT wrote:
> > On Sat, Jul 25, 2015 at 11:32:53PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > It is, once ntpdate has slammed the correct time into the system at boot
> > > time, then ntp takes over.
> >
> > Unless
REPLACE approx with chrony in the following;
> Also years ago, and still today, there is approx which does a much
> more sophisticated analysis of the data stream of repeated queries of
> an ntp server. In addition to setting the local clock to the
> same time as the external reference clock as is
Paul E Condon writes:
> Also years ago, and still today, there is approx which does a much
> more sophisticated analysis of the data stream of repeated queries of
> an ntp server. In addition to setting the local clock to the same time
> as the external reference clock as is done by both ntp and nt
L'octidi 8 thermidor, an CCXXIII, Paul E Condon a écrit :
> Also years ago, and still today, there is chrony which does a much
> more sophisticated analysis of the data stream of repeated queries of
> an ntp server. In addition to setting the local clock to the
> same time as the external reference
Sven Hartge wrote:
>> /lib/systemd/system/systemd-timesyncd.service.d/disable-with-time-daemon.conf
> That one is not present in Sid.
Ah, -ENOCOFFEE, I meant of course "That one is not present in Jessie."
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Greetings;
I am running fairly vanilla Jessie 8.1 and now Icedove does
not open messages on double-click, only on , at least
90% of the time anyway.
And "F" does not go to the next message unless the current
one was opened with double-click.
Any hints, tips, etc.?
TIA!
Dennis
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On Sat 25 Jul 2015 at 11:30:30 +0100, Brian wrote:
> Please stop cups-browsed on the client and post the output of 'lpstat -t'.
systemctl stop cups-browsed.service
systemctl status cups-browsed.service
● cups-browsed.service - Make remote CUPS printers available locally
Loaded: loaded (/lib/s
On 26/07/15 08:57 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote:
On Sunday 26 July 2015 13:17:02 Renaud OLGIATI wrote:
On Sun, 26 Jul 2015 10:54:35 +0100
Lisi Reisz wrote:
But that is for wheezy and earlier. systemd is, of course, different.
Maybe the list should implement a rule, that people asking a question tel
On 26/07/15 10:45 AM, John Hasler wrote:
It may have been an X-Y question, but the answer to the question
actually asked, was "ntp".
That is *an* answer. The full answer is that the Chrony and Ntp
packages provide time daemons. Systemd-timesyncd provides an SNTP
client which is probably adequa
Paul E Condon wrote on 07/26/2015 10:14 AM:
On 20150726_0252-0700, anxious...@gmail.com wrote:
Also years ago, and still today, there is approx which does a much
more sophisticated analysis of the data stream of repeated queries of
an ntp server. In addition to setting the local clock to the
On 26/07/15 12:47 PM, Dennis Wicks wrote:
Paul E Condon wrote on 07/26/2015 10:14 AM:
On 20150726_0252-0700, anxious...@gmail.com wrote:
Also years ago, and still today, there is approx which does a much
more sophisticated analysis of the data stream of repeated queries of
an ntp server. In
On 2015-07-24, Thomas Schmitt wrote:
> Hi,
>
> one of my optical drives automatically pulls in its tray if it stands
> out for a few minutes. The four others do not try to byte my fingers.
>
> The waiting time between manual tray eject and automatic tray load
> is quite reliably 195 to 200 seconds
Gary Dale writes:
> I haven't had any significant problems with systemd but then I waited
> several months before upgrading my servers to jessie and before
> upgrading my workstation to stretch. Maybe it's because of MS-DO but
> I've learned to wait for the .1 release before upgrading. :)
I actu
On Sun 26 Jul 2015 at 17:54:50 +0200, Tuxo Holic wrote:
> On Sat 25 Jul 2015 at 11:30:30 +0100, Brian wrote:
>
> > Please stop cups-browsed on the client and post the output of 'lpstat -t'.
>
> systemctl stop cups-browsed.service
>
> systemctl status cups-browsed.service
> ● cups-browsed.servic
On 2015-07-26 14:45:57 +0100, Brian wrote:
> On Sun 26 Jul 2015 at 15:39:48 +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote:
> > IMHO, it is bad to be forced to uninstall a package just to make
> > some other package work.
>
> Like not being able to have postfix/exim4 and cups/lprng on a machine at
> the same time,
On Sun, 26 Jul 2015 03:32:36 -0400 (EDT), Leonardo wrote:
>
> Try: “rm -Rf .config/autostart/"
That directory contains only one file, called
xfce4-notes-autostart.desktop
but it contains no references to abiword. The commands
grep -r abiword ~|less
and
grep -r abiword /etc|less
p
On 2015-07-26 10:06:05 -0500, John Hasler wrote:
> I wrote:
> > http://www.ntp.org/ntpfaq/NTP-s-config-adv.htm
> >
> > See section 6.6.2, Authentication
>
> Vincent Lefevre writes:
> > I don't see how this can work with public NTP servers!
Actually there's another authentication system: Autokey,
Vincent Lefevre writes:
> I want to be able to set the time if for some reason the clock is
> completely incorrect (this occurred from time to time in the past).
Use your wristwatch.
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On Sun, 26 Jul 2015 15:27:50 -0500
John Hasler wrote:
> > I want to be able to set the time if for some reason the clock is
> > completely incorrect (this occurred from time to time in the past).
>
> Use your wristwatch.
Or better, your cellphone or GPS receiver.
Cheers,
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On 2015-07-26 15:27:50 -0500, John Hasler wrote:
> Vincent Lefevre writes:
> > I want to be able to set the time if for some reason the clock is
> > completely incorrect (this occurred from time to time in the past).
>
> Use your wristwatch.
This may be too late. The machine doesn't warn when the
John Hasler wrote:
The Wanderer writes:
The original question was "What package contains the daemon that
updates the time from a central site?".
The ntp package contains such a daemon - indeed, until systemd, almost
certainly the primary such daemon.
The chrony package provides a time daemo
On Sun, 26 Jul 2015, Lisi Reisz wrote:
The question was:
"What package contains the time daemon?"
It may have been an X-Y question, but the answer to
the question actually asked, was "ntp".
You are (again) stunningly correct Lisi. I don't seem
to have been able to stay focussed on "the que
On Sun, 26 Jul 2015, John Hasler wrote:
Systemd-timesyncd is not a replacement for Ntpd or
Chrony. It is just an SNTP client similar to that
used by Microsoft. It queries a single server and
does no error checking or authentication.
Basically, it replaces a cron job running Ntpdate.
A ver
On Sun, 26 Jul 2015, Gary Dale wrote:
Much of this discussion reminds me of an old Monty
Python skit ending with the line "Lucky we didn't
say anything about the dirty knife". :)
I don't recall that bit, but then NO ONE EXPECTS THE
SPANISH INQUISITION!
Recently I checked out the price of
On Sun, Jul 26, 2015 at 12:02:07PM -0400, Gary Dale wrote:
> On 26/07/15 10:45 AM, John Hasler wrote:
> >>It may have been an X-Y question, but the answer to the question
> >>actually asked, was "ntp".
> >That is *an* answer. The full answer is that the Chrony and Ntp
> >packages provide time daem
On 07/26/2015 at 08:51 PM, Chris Bannister wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 26, 2015 at 12:02:07PM -0400, Gary Dale wrote:
>> Much of this discussion reminds me of an old Monty Python skit
>> ending with the line "Lucky we didn't say anything about the dirty
>> knife". :)
>
> IIRC, it was a dirty fork.
N
I've installed Debian dozens of times since 2002 and I have never run
into anything approaching the headaches I am experiencing trying to
get the current stable Debian onto a newly rebuilt machine. The box is
a straightforward amd64 setup built from a bundle from Newegg. It has
onboard Realtek eth0
On Sun, Jul 26, 2015 at 09:34:46PM -0400, The Wanderer wrote:
> On 07/26/2015 at 08:51 PM, Chris Bannister wrote:
>
> > On Sun, Jul 26, 2015 at 12:02:07PM -0400, Gary Dale wrote:
>
> >> Much of this discussion reminds me of an old Monty Python skit
> >> ending with the line "Lucky we didn't say a
Quoting Thomas Schmitt (scdbac...@gmx.net):
> David Wright wrote:
> > Port 465 should be encrypted straightaway,
>
> I get a connection to the SMTP server directly by this line
> in ~/.pinerc:
> smtp-server=mail.gmx.net/ssl/user=my_user...@gmx.net
I assume that you're telling me that this does
On 26/07/15 02:44 PM, Mart van de Wege wrote:
Gary Dale writes:
I haven't had any significant problems with systemd but then I waited
several months before upgrading my servers to jessie and before
upgrading my workstation to stretch. Maybe it's because of MS-DO but
I've learned to wait for th
On 26/07/15 10:46 PM, David Bruce wrote:
I've installed Debian dozens of times since 2002 and I have never run
into anything approaching the headaches I am experiencing trying to
get the current stable Debian onto a newly rebuilt machine. The box is
a straightforward amd64 setup built from a bund
On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 4:53 AM, Stephen Powell wrote:
> On Sun, 26 Jul 2015 03:32:36 -0400 (EDT), Leonardo wrote:
>>
>> Try: “rm -Rf .config/autostart/"
>
> That directory contains only one file, called
>
>xfce4-notes-autostart.desktop
>
> but it contains no references to abiword. The comma
Quoting Dennis Wicks (w...@mgssub.com):
> Frequently when I run a command in a terminal window (Debian 8.1
> Xfce) I get a bunch of errors.
>
> >/bin/bash: _parse_usage: line 16: syntax error near unexpected token `('
> >/bin/bash: _parse_usage: line 16: ` -?(\[)+([a-zA-Z0-9?]))'
> >/bin/bash: err
Hope you are doing well,
I am raju, Online Marketing Consultant. I found your web contact email. I
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Gary Dale writes:
> On 26/07/15 02:44 PM, Mart van de Wege wrote:
>> Gary Dale writes:
>>
> Upgrading to sid is asking for trouble. Sid isn't called unstable for
> nothing.
I know. I really do. I only have been running Debian since potato. On
the other hand, someone's gotta run Sid, or it'll ne
Hi,
i wrote:
> > I get a connection to the SMTP server directly by this line
> > in ~/.pinerc:
> > smtp-server=mail.gmx.net/ssl/user=my_user...@gmx.net
David Wright wrote:
> I assume that you're telling me that this does not work, right?
Yes. It connects, alpine asks for the SMTP password, and
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