On 20150726_0252-0700, anxious...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Sunday, 26 July 2015 05:30:04 UTC+1, CaT  wrote:
> > On Sat, Jul 25, 2015 at 11:32:53PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > It is, once ntpdate has slammed the correct time into the system at boot 
> > > time, then ntp takes over.
> > 
> > Unless I misremember, you don't even need ntpdate. Starting ntp with
> > -g will do just fine (and it's the default config - I add -N). I don't
> > even have ntpdate installed.
> > 
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> Years ago, there was some concern about load on ntp servers. And we didn't 
> all have always-on connections. I guess that is still the case. Ntpdate could 
> be run from cron as often as necessary. It was usually good enough unless the 
> computer's internal clock drifted alarmingly.
> 
> anxiousmac

Also years ago, and still today, there is approx which does a much
more sophisticated analysis of the data stream of repeated queries of
an ntp server. In addition to setting the local clock to the
same time as the external reference clock as is done by both ntp and
ntpdate, approx computes an estimate of *rate* of ticking of the local
clock. Properly used, in a stable HVAC environment, it can keep the
local clock synced with internet time with as few as one reading per
week of the external internet time.

It is my experience that internet time is vastly inferior to the
precision of proper laboratory grade atomic clocks of a decade or two
ago. Furthermore, no one really wants his computer clock to be
scientifically correct to the point of being useful for running the
data links to the space probe to Pluto. What everyone should want is
just that their computer clock agrees with the computer clocks of the
web sites with which they communicate. THAT is largely determined by
social convention, which cares very little about logical scientific
correctness.

Here we see an example of a further meta-question concerning the
socially correct words to use in covering up the underlying technical
complexity. ;-)

Best regards,
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Paul E Condon           
pecon...@mesanetworks.net


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