Re: /etc/fstab question

2013-11-11 Thread Joe
On Mon, 11 Nov 2013 04:06:16 +0100 berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: > > I am sorry, I do not understand what you mean by "minimize wear". ( > yes, I do not only use that list to learn stuff about Debian, it also > helps me to work my English since I have no other occasions to do > that, sa

Re: Why Debian

2013-11-11 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Mon, 2013-11-11 at 03:32 +0100, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: > > Le 10.11.2013 19:06, Jeff Bauer a écrit : > > On 11/10/2013 12:52 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > >> On Sun, 2013-11-10 at 12:44 -0500, Jeff Bauer wrote: > >>> On 11/10/2013 10:40 AM, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > On Sun, Nov

Re: Permission issue

2013-11-11 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sun, 2013-11-10 at 23:26 -0700, Bob Proulx wrote: > Not if you synchronize the uids. Pick one to be 1000. Move the other > one to 1001. Then then will be different. Then both systems will > have the same list of users and uids. Yes, but in this case the name should change from spinymouse us

Re: [OT?] What's wrong with my exim4 configuration?

2013-11-11 Thread Itay
On Mon, 11 Nov 2013, Jonathan Dowland wrote: On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 09:20:18AM +0200, Itay wrote: 3) The last command I isssued: # echo This is a test message. | exim -v -i root is still hanging. This was the behavior I was seeing yesterday as well. Try killing it and re-issuing it since you

Re: Weird boot problem. How can this be?

2013-11-11 Thread Darac Marjal
On Sat, Nov 09, 2013 at 09:49:57AM -0800, Ray Dillinger wrote: > On 11/09/2013 06:08 AM, didier gaumet wrote: > > >>The machine is an Asus Sabertooth X79 motherboard, IA64 "Sandy Bridge" > >>architecture, > >[...] > > > >On the Asus website, this is not an IA64 motherboard, but a X86-64 > >(amd64)

Re: /etc/fstab question

2013-11-11 Thread berenger . morel
Le 11.11.2013 10:09, Joe a écrit : On Mon, 11 Nov 2013 04:06:16 +0100 berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: I am sorry, I do not understand what you mean by "minimize wear". ( yes, I do not only use that list to learn stuff about Debian, it also helps me to work my English since I have no

Re: [OT?] What's wrong with my exim4 configuration?

2013-11-11 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 12:33:46PM +0200, Itay wrote: > I tried several times, including re-issuing 'exim4 -qff'. > It hangs and I have to kill it. > The output is appended below. OK I wouldn't worry about the hanging from this output. I suspect it's just the SMTP client and/or server keeping the

Re: /etc/fstab question

2013-11-11 Thread Richard Owlett
berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: Le 10.11.2013 19:54, Richard Owlett a écrit : berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: Le 10.11.2013 18:06, Richard Owlett a écrit : Will doing "chmod -R 777 /owlett" allow all users of any Debian install having the edited /etc/fstab have unrestricted access to

Re: /etc/fstab question

2013-11-11 Thread Richard Owlett
David Christensen wrote: On 11/10/2013 09:06 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: I wish to have all users of all Debian installs on my laptop have unrestricted access to everything on a particular partition. It was suggested adding a line to /etc/fstab would accomplish my goal. ... /dev/sda5 /owle

Re: /etc/fstab question

2013-11-11 Thread Richard Owlett
David Christensen wrote: On 11/10/2013 10:54 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: I'm the only physical user. The laptop in question is dedicated to my learning experiments. It physically does not even have network access of any kind. Ouch. I assume you mean "no Ethernet interface". Note that it is pos

disk cloning ?

2013-11-11 Thread hadi motamedi
Dear All I needed to clone my disk to another hard drive . I did it as the following : #dd if=/dev/sdb of=/dev/sdc But after a while, the procedure ended with the "writing to /dev/sdc input/output error" message. Can you please let me know how can I overcome this as the fdisk now returns as " #fdis

Re: disk cloning ?

2013-11-11 Thread Darac Marjal
On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 04:46:07AM -0800, hadi motamedi wrote: > Dear All > I needed to clone my disk to another hard drive . I did it as the following : > #dd if=/dev/sdb of=/dev/sdc > But after a while, the procedure ended with the "writing to /dev/sdc > input/output error" message. So your new

Re: Why Debian

2013-11-11 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Nov 10, 2013 at 03:40:18PM +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > The real "problem" is that the number of people who install > any operating system from scratch at any time is very small: > - probably less than 1% As in LFS? (I think I know what you mean, i.e from "disk"? ) > - people have b

Re: disk cloning ?

2013-11-11 Thread Pertti Kosunen
On 11.11.2013 14:46, hadi motamedi wrote: What can I do at know ? http://www.gnu.org/software/ddrescue/ http://www.forensicswiki.org/wiki/Ddrescue Try ddrescue instead dd. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact list

Re: disk cloning ?

2013-11-11 Thread hadi motamedi
>Better to try smartctl/badblocks/etc to test the health of the new drive >first Sorry, How the smartctl command must be issued to check for the health of the disk ? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@li

Re: new laptop: compiling source for i7 CPUs???

2013-11-11 Thread ken
On 11/10/2013 03:02 PM Stefan Monnier wrote: There are considerable price increases with each quite small increase in speed-- hundreds of dollars--, but over two or three years I think the extra dollars would be worth the performance increase... *IF* there is a noticeable performance increase.

Re: disk cloning ?

2013-11-11 Thread Karl E. Jorgensen
Hi On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 04:46:07AM -0800, hadi motamedi wrote: > Dear All > I needed to clone my disk to another hard drive . I did it as the following : > #dd if=/dev/sdb of=/dev/sdc > But after a while, the procedure ended with the "writing to /dev/sdc > input/output error" message. In gener

Re: Why Debian

2013-11-11 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 01:04:27PM +1100, David wrote: > On 11 November 2013 02:17, thomas aylward wrote: > > > > how does a novice begin with debian? Tom > > In addition to other replies, a local linux user group can be a good > source of inspiration and assistance. I'd say that in order of ef

Re: disk cloning ?

2013-11-11 Thread hadi motamedi
>dd if=/dev/sdb1 of=/dev/sdc1 Sorry, I tried for this but getting "no space left on device" What can I do next? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/ca+n+

Re: Why Debian

2013-11-11 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Nov 10, 2013 at 06:26:08PM +0100, Slavko wrote: > then ask for CC is base way do get the responses. Please, do not use > the Reply to All, or use MUA, which can identify MLs and post replies ^^ That 'or' should be 'but' because it read as: " Please, do not use an

Re: Why Debian

2013-11-11 Thread Miles Fidelman
Chris Bannister wrote: On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 01:04:27PM +1100, David wrote: On 11 November 2013 02:17, thomas aylward wrote: how does a novice begin with debian? Tom In addition to other replies, a local linux user group can be a good source of inspiration and assistance. I'd say that in

Re: /etc/fstab question

2013-11-11 Thread Luis Bandarra
Hi, On 11/10/2013 05:28 PM, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: > Le 10.11.2013 18:06, Richard Owlett a écrit : >> Will doing "chmod -R 777 /owlett" allow all users of any Debian >> install having the edited /etc/fstab have unrestricted access to all >> files and folders on that partition? >> >>

Re: Why Debian

2013-11-11 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Nov 10, 2013 at 06:41:42PM +0100, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: > way: I always use reply all, and it does not seems to send mails to > the sender too. Policy is to reply to list ONLY. > On the other hand, if I use the normal reply, it only reply to the > sender. That is the exp

Re: disk cloning ?

2013-11-11 Thread Karl E. Jorgensen
On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 05:31:07AM -0800, hadi motamedi wrote: > >dd if=/dev/sdb1 of=/dev/sdc1 > > Sorry, I tried for this but getting "no space left on device" > What can I do next? Sounds like you didn't partition the destination drive? -- Karl E. Jorgensen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to deb

Re: disk cloning ?

2013-11-11 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Mon, 2013-11-11 at 13:42 +, Karl E. Jorgensen wrote: > On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 05:31:07AM -0800, hadi motamedi wrote: > > >dd if=/dev/sdb1 of=/dev/sdc1 > > > > Sorry, I tried for this but getting "no space left on device" > > What can I do next? > > Sounds like you didn't partition the des

disks differ after cloning with dd

2013-11-11 Thread berenger . morel
Hello. Few days ago, I tried to clone a damaged[1] disk to another one, of the same size, with dd. I had to interrupt the copy after more than 24 hours, because it was obviously too long[2]. Now, I am trying to look anew how to do the copy, and looking at the disks with gparted, I have those

Re: Why Debian

2013-11-11 Thread berenger . morel
Le 11.11.2013 14:42, Chris Bannister a écrit : On Sun, Nov 10, 2013 at 06:41:42PM +0100, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: way: I always use reply all, and it does not seems to send mails to the sender too. Policy is to reply to list ONLY. On the other hand, if I use the normal reply, i

Re: Permission issue

2013-11-11 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Nov 10, 2013 at 11:24:39PM -0800, David Christensen wrote: > On 11/10/2013 10:26 PM, Bob Proulx wrote: [...] > > +1 -1000! -- "If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing." --- Malcolm

Re: Installing Debian 7.2.0 on MacBook Pro (6,2)

2013-11-11 Thread berenger . morel
Le 08.11.2013 16:21, Craigslist User a écrit : This is all very new to me and I believe I installed everything properly but when I try to boot into Debian the screen has pixel splashes all over the screen. When I try to boot into recovery mode it starts booting but then stops and says "Cannot

Re: Procedure to uninstall nvidia drivers and restore nouveau

2013-11-11 Thread berenger . morel
Le 10.11.2013 22:44, Alex Naysmith a écrit : After following the procedure at https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers [1] to install the nvidia-glx-legacy-173xx package for my GeForce FX5550 card [Debian 7 "Wheezy"], I would like to know the best method to return to the nouveau driver wit

Re: Why Debian

2013-11-11 Thread Shane Johnson
On Sat, Nov 9, 2013 at 12:40 AM, Beco wrote: > > On 8 Nov 2013 14:15, "Alberto Salvia Novella" > wrote: > > Summarizing: > > > > Which are the very important reasons why do you prefer Debian over > Ubuntu? > > > > > > Why to use a Debian based OS if you can use Debian? > > My best, > Beco. > Why

Re: disks differ after cloning with dd

2013-11-11 Thread Shane Johnson
On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 7:06 AM, wrote: > Hello. > > Few days ago, I tried to clone a damaged[1] disk to another one, of the > same size, with dd. > I had to interrupt the copy after more than 24 hours, because it was > obviously too long[2]. > > Now, I am trying to look anew how to do the copy,

Re: Why Debian

2013-11-11 Thread Mihamina RKTMB
On 11/08/2013 08:57 PM, Alberto Salvia Novella wrote: Which are the very important reasons why do you prefer Debian over Ubuntu? 1°) I use Debian over Ubuntu only for servers. I co-manage more or less 200 servers (6 persons team) Keeping "supported" would be a PITA with the 6 month release sc

Re: Permission issue

2013-11-11 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 2013-11-12 at 03:18 +1300, Chris Bannister wrote: > On Sun, Nov 10, 2013 at 11:24:39PM -0800, David Christensen wrote: > > On 11/10/2013 10:26 PM, Bob Proulx wrote: > [...] > > > > +1 > > -1000! :D It's possible, I once changed the uid for a user from 1001 to 1000 and preferences for al

Re: Procedure to uninstall nvidia drivers and restore nouveau

2013-11-11 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Mon, 2013-11-11 at 15:25 +0100, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: > > Le 10.11.2013 22:44, Alex Naysmith a écrit : > > After following the procedure at > > https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers [1] to install the > > nvidia-glx-legacy-173xx package for my GeForce FX5550 card [Debian

Re: Procedure to uninstall nvidia drivers and restore nouveau

2013-11-11 Thread berenger . morel
Le 11.11.2013 16:18, Ralf Mardorf a écrit : On Mon, 2013-11-11 at 15:25 +0100, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: Le 10.11.2013 22:44, Alex Naysmith a écrit : > After following the procedure at > https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers [1] to install the > nvidia-glx-legacy-173xx pack

Re: Procedure to uninstall nvidia drivers and restore nouveau

2013-11-11 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Mon, 2013-11-11 at 16:20 +0100, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: > > Le 11.11.2013 16:18, Ralf Mardorf a écrit : > > On Mon, 2013-11-11 at 15:25 +0100, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org > > wrote: > >> > >> Le 10.11.2013 22:44, Alex Naysmith a écrit : > >> > After following the procedure at >

Re: Why Debian

2013-11-11 Thread Miles Fidelman
Mihamina RKTMB wrote: 1°) I use Debian over Ubuntu only for servers. I co-manage more or less 200 servers (6 persons team) Keeping "supported" would be a PITA with the 6 month release schedule. One could always advise to stay with LTS, but that would be equivalent to Debian. 2°) I have to sel

Re: Why Debian

2013-11-11 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Mon, 2013-11-11 at 11:11 -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote: > If one is managing systems where a LOT (even most, or all) software is > built from source - is Debian still the best distribution. Is there a > better distro for managing source-based in installs from upstream (and > I'm not talking Gento

Re: Procedure to uninstall nvidia drivers and restore nouveau

2013-11-11 Thread Curt
On 2013-11-11, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > I suspect that xorg.conf will not be removed, even not when using purge. > Will the nouveau driver be "unblacklisted" after the purge? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listm

Re: Permission issue

2013-11-11 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 04:12:31PM +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Tue, 2013-11-12 at 03:18 +1300, Chris Bannister wrote: > > On Sun, Nov 10, 2013 at 11:24:39PM -0800, David Christensen wrote: > > > On 11/10/2013 10:26 PM, Bob Proulx wrote: > > [...] > > > > > > +1 > > > > -1000! > > :D > > It'

Re: disks differ after cloning with dd

2013-11-11 Thread Karl E. Jorgensen
On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 03:06:44PM +0100, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: > Hello. > > Few days ago, I tried to clone a damaged[1] disk to another one, of > the same size, with dd. > I had to interrupt the copy after more than 24 hours, because it was > obviously too long[2]. Have you looked

Re: Procedure to uninstall nvidia drivers and restore nouveau

2013-11-11 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 04:50:36PM +, Curt wrote: > On 2013-11-11, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > > > I suspect that xorg.conf will not be removed, even not when using purge. > > > Will the nouveau driver be "unblacklisted" after the purge? Ask yourself - "Would you, as system administrator, expect

Re: Why Debian

2013-11-11 Thread Karl E. Jorgensen
Hi On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 11:11:07AM -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote: > Mihamina RKTMB wrote: > > > >1°) > >I use Debian over Ubuntu only for servers. > >I co-manage more or less 200 servers (6 persons team) > >Keeping "supported" would be a PITA with the 6 month release schedule. > >One could always

Re: Procedure to uninstall nvidia drivers and restore nouveau

2013-11-11 Thread Erwan David
Le 11/11/2013 18:14, Chris Bannister a écrit : > On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 04:50:36PM +, Curt wrote: >> On 2013-11-11, Ralf Mardorf wrote: >>> I suspect that xorg.conf will not be removed, even not when using purge. >>> >> Will the nouveau driver be "unblacklisted" after the purge? > Ask yoursel

Re: Why Debian

2013-11-11 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Mon, 2013-11-11 at 17:15 +, Karl E. Jorgensen wrote: > > Is there a better distro for managing > > source-based in installs from upstream (and I'm not talking Gentoo, > > where Portage is a packaging system for source code - I'm talking > > semi-automatic management and updates from upstream

Re: Procedure to uninstall nvidia drivers and restore nouveau

2013-11-11 Thread Curt
On 2013-11-11, Chris Bannister wrote: >> > >> Will the nouveau driver be "unblacklisted" after the purge? > > Ask yourself - "Would you, as system administrator, expect this?" then Oh, sorry, I thought you were answering the OP, a newbie who asked for the procedure (even a wiki) involved in going

How to start using a free OS (was: Why Debian)

2013-11-11 Thread David F
On 11/10/2013 10:17 AM, thomas aylward wrote: how does a novice begin with debian? Tom I think there is some confusion that is introduced when we call a distribution like Debian an "operating system," which used to be a term used for the software that interacts with hardware, loads and runs

Re: Installing same packages in a Squeeze installation in a new Wheezy installation

2013-11-11 Thread Dmitrii Kashin
Bob Proulx writes: > apt-mark showmanual Wow! This command is very useful! Thank you! =) pgpxElOsR0H4I.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Permission issue

2013-11-11 Thread David Christensen
On 11/11/2013 06:18 AM, Chris Bannister wrote: On Sun, Nov 10, 2013 at 11:24:39PM -0800, David Christensen wrote: On 11/10/2013 10:26 PM, Bob Proulx wrote: [...] +1 -1000! Why? David -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trou

Re: Permission issue

2013-11-11 Thread David Christensen
On 11/11/2013 01:19 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: Yes, but in this case the name should change from spinymouse used for my old installs of the last years, to rocketmouse for the first user. The first user always gets the uid 1000 to keep all my systems compatible, even FreeBSD that IIRC by default does

Re: Permission issue

2013-11-11 Thread David Christensen
On 11/11/2013 07:12 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: It's possible, I once changed the uid for a user from 1001 to 1000 and preferences for all files using find for a FreeBSD install. I had bad luck and something strange happened, I can't remember the issue, but it was much work to change really the real

Re: sd card not detected

2013-11-11 Thread Alex Mestiashvili
On 11/02/2013 01:51 PM, Linux-Fan wrote: On 11/01/2013 07:35 PM, Alex Mestiashvili wrote: Hi All, A card inserted into card reader is not mounted automatically and even doesn't shown up in the dmesg output, but if I switch off and on the monitor with cardreader or run lshw the card appears and

Re: Why Debian

2013-11-11 Thread Celejar
On Sat, 09 Nov 2013 08:09:24 + xavi wrote: > I use Debian because Debian is like an old good car. Easy to open and > see how it's mounted. Without too much customization. Without too much Just don't try to ask an exim question on upstream's list ;) Celejar -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: How to start using a free OS

2013-11-11 Thread David Christensen
On 11/11/2013 10:15 AM, David F wrote: ... when a user tries to switch from a proprietary OS to a free OS, the switching of the core operating system is likely nearly invisible to them; but they often are also switching many of the applications that they use every day, and this is where it become

Re: Why Debian

2013-11-11 Thread green
Ralf Mardorf wrote at 2013-11-11 10:50 -0600: > Arch Linux, it has a binary package management like Debian has got and > build ports like FreeBSD has got and a so called user repository with > packagebuilds, that easily can be modified by the user. That was some interesting notes about Arch Linux,

Re: Permission issue

2013-11-11 Thread Bob Proulx
David Christensen wrote: > Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > It's possible, I once changed the uid for a user from 1001 to 1000 and > > preferences for all files using find for a FreeBSD install. I had bad > > luck and something strange happened, I can't remember the issue, but it > > was much work to change

debug method related for color patches

2013-11-11 Thread Jeffrin Jose
hello all, i use GNOME 3 related on Debian. sometimes i see color patches on screen. suppose i point my mouse to "activities" part on the top left part of the screen and then back again and then open windows come to it's original size. then the color patch is cleared. i used fglrx driver for my

Re: disk cloning ?

2013-11-11 Thread David Christensen
On 11/11/2013 04:46 AM, hadi motamedi wrote: I needed to clone my disk to another hard drive . I did it as the following : #dd if=/dev/sdb of=/dev/sdc But after a while, the procedure ended with the "writing to /dev/sdc input/output error" message. Can you please let me know how can I overcome th

Re: disk cloning ?

2013-11-11 Thread David Christensen
On 11/11/2013 06:03 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: What's the output of sudo parted -l or su -c "parted -l" +1 Also, please let us know if you're using encryption, LVM, etc.. David -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contac

Re: [OT?] What's wrong with my exim4 configuration?

2013-11-11 Thread Gregory Nowak
On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 08:28:31AM +0200, Itay wrote: > I don't understand why ':25' is appended, and what is the meaning of > that. There are a number of things I want to reply to in this thread. So, I'm going to do this in each relevant message, since that will be easier for me. Apologies if the

Re: Problem with halt

2013-11-11 Thread Wawrzek Niewodniczanski
Hello, I tried non-free firmware and it didn't work. So I decided to give ubuntu and halt/power down doesn't work in latest Ubuntu as well. So I see two option - something bad happend with my BIOS or there is a regression in kernel... Thanks for help, Wawrzek -- Dr Wawrzyniec Niewodniczański

Re: sd card not detected

2013-11-11 Thread Linux-Fan
On 11/11/2013 07:54 PM, Alex Mestiashvili wrote: > On 11/02/2013 01:51 PM, Linux-Fan wrote: >> I have the same problem here -- since the upgrade from Squeeze to Wheezy >> when the HAL was removed, device nodes for CF and SD cards are not >> automatically created after insertion. Reconnecting the ca

Re: debug method related for color patches

2013-11-11 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 2013-11-12 at 02:13 +0530, Jeffrin Jose wrote: > i would like to know where to start debugging Since you don't know what software does cause the issue, I would start troubleshooting by replacing the graphics driver instead of randomly debugging software by using e.g. strace. I can't use t

Re: [OT?] What's wrong with my exim4 configuration?

2013-11-11 Thread Gregory Nowak
On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 08:50:33AM +0200, Itay wrote: > I was using 465 because that's how my email client (alpine) uses the > provider's SMTP. It was configured some years ago, and I was not > aware that a change is required. Yes, mail.messagingengine.com still seems to accept connections on tcp

Re: [OT?] What's wrong with my exim4 configuration?

2013-11-11 Thread Gregory Nowak
On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 12:33:46PM +0200, Itay wrote: > On Mon, 11 Nov 2013, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > >It looks like your mail configuration is now fixed. I agree, for the most part anyway. > Finally -- I don't know if it is significant -- but I note in the > output below, for example 3 lines fr

Re: disk cloning ?

2013-11-11 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Mon, 2013-11-11 at 12:51 -0800, David Christensen wrote: > On 11/11/2013 06:03 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > What's the output of > > sudo parted -l > > or > > su -c "parted -l" > > +1 > > > Also, please let us know if you're using encryption, LVM, etc.. I guess that parted does show it, if it

Re: /etc/fstab question

2013-11-11 Thread Bear
On Mon, 2013-11-11 at 04:06 +0100, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: > Le 10.11.2013 19:54, Richard Owlett a écrit : > >> Since > >> you seems to use ext2, you anyway do not have the log feature ( > >> the thing which avoid corrupted files in case of a problem ) so I > >> only see the drawback

Questions about new hardware & Debian (or Linux in general)

2013-11-11 Thread Jon N
Hi, I have been a Debian user for I'd guess 7 or 8 years now. I would like to thank all of you that helped create a system that is so useful. Despite using it for so long I am far from a power users, I basically rely on the fact that it works well (or if it doesn't it will soon :-)). My current

OT: Permission issue

2013-11-11 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Mon, 2013-11-11 at 13:11 -0700, Bob Proulx wrote: > find / -xdev -user 1000 -exec chown 1001 {} + > find / -xdev -group 1000 -exec chgrp 1001 {} + "Sharing a mail folder between Linux and FreeBSD": http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2013-January/subject.html#start It's n

Re: OT: Permission issue

2013-11-11 Thread Ralf Mardorf
PS: > > find / -xdev -user 1000 -exec chown 1001 {} + > > find / -xdev -group 1000 -exec chgrp 1001 {} + > > "Sharing a mail folder between Linux and FreeBSD": I guess "Fwd: Re: Sharing a mail folder between Linux and FreeBSD" can be skipped, the "next message" option doesn'

Re: Questions about new hardware & Debian (or Linux in general)

2013-11-11 Thread Karl E. Jorgensen
Hi On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 05:03:44PM -0500, Jon N wrote: > Hi, > > I have been a Debian user for I'd guess 7 or 8 years now. I would > like to thank all of you that helped create a system that is so > useful. Despite using it for so long I am far from a power users, I > basically rely on the f

Re: Questions about new hardware & Debian (or Linux in general)

2013-11-11 Thread David Christensen
On 11/11/2013 02:03 PM, Jon N wrote: So, to sum it up, what do I need to know about Linux, or Debian, and UEFI? http://lists.debian.org/cgi-bin/search?P=uefi&DEFAULTOP=or&sort=date&HITSPERPAGE=100 HTH, David -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject o

Re: harddrive spins down and up again after 5s

2013-11-11 Thread Stan Hoeppner
CC'ing back to the list. On 11/11/2013 7:42 AM, patrick wrote: > Am 11.11.2013 00:01, schrieb Stan Hoeppner: >> On 11/10/2013 3:18 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: >>> On Sun, 2013-11-10 at 14:19 -0600, Stan Hoeppner wrote: Thus the "problem" may not be caused by the operating system. >>> It is the OS

Re: How to start using a free OS (was: Why Debian)

2013-11-11 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On 11/12/13, David F wrote: > On 11/10/2013 10:17 AM, thomas aylward wrote: >> how does a novice begin with debian? Tom > The reason why I bring this up is that when a user tries to switch from a > proprietary OS to a free OS, the switching of the core operating system is > likely nearly invisib

Re: Questions about new hardware & Debian (or Linux in general)

2013-11-11 Thread Neal Murphy
On Monday, November 11, 2013 05:25:18 PM Karl E. Jorgensen wrote: > Hi > > On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 05:03:44PM -0500, Jon N wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I have been a Debian user for I'd guess 7 or 8 years now. I would > > like to thank all of you that helped create a system that is so > > useful. Des

Re: OT: Permission issue

2013-11-11 Thread Bob Proulx
Ralf Mardorf wrote: > Bob Proulx wrote: > > find / -xdev -user 1000 -exec chown 1001 {} + > > find / -xdev -group 1000 -exec chgrp 1001 {} + > > "Sharing a mail folder between Linux and FreeBSD": > > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2013-January/subject.html#start That is

Re: Questions about new hardware & Debian (or Linux in general)

2013-11-11 Thread Jon N
Thanks Karl - I was thinking it would 'just work', but wanted to make sure. And leaving Windows out of the mix probably doesn't hurt either. On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 5:25 PM, Karl E. Jorgensen wrote: > Hi > > On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 05:03:44PM -0500, Jon N wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I have been a Debian

Re: OT: Permission issue

2013-11-11 Thread David Christensen
On 11/11/2013 03:57 PM, Bob Proulx wrote: But nothing there gives me any indication that the strategy of using the same uids everywhere is not the best strategy. Centralized user authentication is what YP, NIS, LDAP, Kerberos, Active Directory, etc. for private networks and OpenID, Google Acco

Re: Questions about new hardware & Debian (or Linux in general)

2013-11-11 Thread Jon N
Neal, Well, I think you've found my weak point. I have been looking at fairly new stuff. When shopping for processors I found there was little difference in price between Intel's Haswell verses Ivy Bridge (at least for Pentiums, which what I'm thinking of getting). So the mainboards have new ch

Re: Questions about new hardware & Debian (or Linux in general)

2013-11-11 Thread Neal Murphy
On Monday, November 11, 2013 09:28:26 PM Jon N wrote: > Neal, > > Well, I think you've found my weak point. I have been looking at > fairly new stuff. When shopping for processors I found there was > little difference in price between Intel's Haswell verses Ivy Bridge > (at least for Pentiums, w

Re: disk cloning ?

2013-11-11 Thread hadi motamedi
>Sounds like you didn't partition the destination drive? How to partition it ? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/ca+n+swgo-tdv_s_nykr7ugwmg99+p2vfvjrut

Re: disk cloning ?

2013-11-11 Thread hadi motamedi
> > What's the output of > > sudo parted -l > Here is the output : #parted -list disk /dev/hda 21.5GB sector : 512B/512B partition : msdos disk : /dev/sdb 40GB sector : 512B/512B partition : msdos error: unable to open /dev/md0 unrecognized disk label. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-r

Re: disk cloning ?

2013-11-11 Thread hadi motamedi
>>Also, please let us know if you're using encryption, LVM, etc. How can I check for it ? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CA+N+sWgXR2FLMq_J=W30OxGOZR

Re: Questions about new hardware & Debian (or Linux in general)

2013-11-11 Thread Jude DaShiell
Avoid the mistake I made. Along with your install media, get all the firmware drivers for your flavor of hardware and have them on hand expecting to use them to install your system. I didn't earlier and couldn't wipe windows vista off a dell laptop. Some ambiguity in terms of firmware requir

Re: Questions about new hardware & Debian (or Linux in general)

2013-11-11 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 12/11/13 09:03, Jon N wrote: > Hi, > > I have been a Debian user for I'd guess 7 or 8 years now. I would > like to thank all of you that helped create a system that is so > useful. Despite using it for so long I am far from a power users, I > basically rely on the fact that it works well (or

Re: [OT?] What's wrong with my exim4 configuration?

2013-11-11 Thread Itay
On Mon, 11 Nov 2013, Gregory Nowak wrote: On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 08:28:31AM +0200, Itay wrote: I don't understand why ':25' is appended, and what is the meaning of that. There are a number of things I want to reply to in this thread. So, I'm going to do this in each relevant message, since t

Re: [OT?] What's wrong with my exim4 configuration?

2013-11-11 Thread Itay
Thanks to Jonathan and Greg, and others, it seems that the cause for the problem was found. See below. On Mon, 11 Nov 2013, Jonathan Dowland wrote: Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2013 11:33:22 + From: Jonathan Dowland To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: [OT?] What's wrong with my exim4 confi

Re: [OT?] What's wrong with my exim4 configuration?

2013-11-11 Thread Itay
On Mon, 11 Nov 2013, Gregory Nowak wrote: On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 12:33:46PM +0200, Itay wrote: On Mon, 11 Nov 2013, Jonathan Dowland wrote: It looks like your mail configuration is now fixed. I agree, for the most part anyway. Finally -- I don't know if it is significant -- but I note in

Re: [OT?] What's wrong with my exim4 configuration?

2013-11-11 Thread Itay
On Mon, 11 Nov 2013, Gregory Nowak wrote: On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 08:50:33AM +0200, Itay wrote: I was using 465 because that's how my email client (alpine) uses the provider's SMTP. It was configured some years ago, and I was not aware that a change is required. Yes, mail.messagingengine.com

Re: Procedure to uninstall nvidia drivers and restore nouveau

2013-11-11 Thread Alex Naysmith
>From the nvidia install procedure is the following command: # aptitude -r install linux-headers-$(uname -r|sed 's,[^-]*-[^-]*-,,') nvidia-kernel-legacy-173xx-dkms I can see the pipe | symbol and the regular expressions but I don't really understand what this command is doing. Alex On 10 Nove