Hi On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 11:11:07AM -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote: > Mihamina RKTMB wrote: > > > >1°) > >I use Debian over Ubuntu only for servers. > >I co-manage more or less 200 servers (6 persons team) > >Keeping "supported" would be a PITA with the 6 month release schedule. > >One could always advise to stay with LTS, but that would be > >equivalent to Debian. > > > >2°) > >I have to self package (for internal use) several pieces of > >software and I found Ubuntu introduces several changes in > >packaging I dont like. I'd rather stick with the bare > >http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/maint-guide/ > > > > Sounds like my situation, but with a lot fewer servers. I'm still > running Squeeze on a couple of machines - stability is fine. > > I find that there are a few things I always have to install from > source - the packaged versions are at best out-of-date, and > sometimes simply don't work (but the latest source builds just fine > on older releases of Debian - go figure).
I would suggest raising a bug on the packages in question. Also investigate using backports for this. For the (admittedly rare) cases where this has happened to me, building a debian package using the up-to-date software has been exceedingly easy - especially if you have a local (company-wide?) debian repository where you can put your own debs in. > > But this does raise a question: Given that (IMHO) apt is by far > Debian's best selling point.... If one is managing systems where a > LOT (even most, or all) software is built from source - is Debian > still the best distribution. Is there a better distro for managing > source-based in installs from upstream (and I'm not talking Gentoo, > where Portage is a packaging system for source code - I'm talking > semi-automatic management and updates from upstream source. Any > thoughts? You'll still end up with some "package" concept - not necessarily expressed as debian packages, but similar. For "little" things, using puppet, chef, cfengine or similar is quite useful for installing software. -- Karl E. Jorgensen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20131111171554.GD31587@hawking
