> https://github.com/mate-desktop/archlinux-packages
>From the linked page: mate-file-archiver: Removed any packages from the
>'depends' that are pulled in via gtk2. 24 days ago
Looks to me like they fixed the conflict in Arch. You have no leg to stand on
with this one. Also, that's Arch.
>
> https://github.com/mate-desktop/debian-packages
>-->
> https://github.com/mate-desktop/debian-packages/tree/master/mate-file-
> archiver
These are irrelevant. mate-file-archiver does not exist anymore, and engrampa
is optional.
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On Sat, 2013-10-12 at 01:43 -0500, Mark Allums wrote:
> > >> Not really, you at least need to manually add a link, regarding
> > >> to the different program names.
> > >
> > > I never did, and never had to. It works fine.
> >
> > Just because you're using software that doesn't use this software
Have you enabled the necessary WSGI modules in Apache and performed
the necessary configuration? You have to remember that the Django
python files need an application server to compile and process. Apache
out of the box doesn't do that. mod_wshi is one option.
I guess you mean mod_wsgi cos I
Mark, when you use your Outlook 15.0, please take care not to sent
duplicated mails. Perhaps you should use a MUA for Mate, instead of
using MS Windows.
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"One Ring to rule them all, One Ring to find them, One Ring to bring them all
and in the darkness bind them In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie." :)
apt-get install gnome-applets gnome-screenshot gnome-session gnome-panel
gnome-terminal gedit gdm3 file-roller gnome-icon-theme
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On Sat, 2013-10-12 at 10:58 +0200, Marko Randjelovic wrote:
> apt-get install gnome-applets gnome-screenshot gnome-session
> gnome-panel gnome-terminal gedit gdm3 file-roller gnome-icon-theme
After running that apt-get command, there still would be a meta-package
available by the repositories, tha
Hi
I have a Debian unstable host which successfully boots from the
linux-image-3.10-1-amd64 kernel package. However, I recently installed
the linux-image-3.10-3-amd64 kernel package, and it is unbootable.
When I boot from the linux-image-3.10-3-amd64 package kernel, the boot
fails and drop
Le 12.10.2013 10:58, Marko Randjelovic a écrit :
"One Ring to rule them all, One Ring to find them, One Ring to bring
them all and in the darkness bind them In the Land of Mordor where
the
Shadows lie." :)
apt-get install gnome-applets gnome-screenshot gnome-session
gnome-panel gnome-termina
On 10/11/2013 08:24 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>
> Wikipedia is hardly what I would call "reliable". This "definition"
> is one person's opinion, nothing more.
absolutely
>
> I happen to disagree. Even single user systems need sysadmins. And
> the sysadmin is the person ultimately responsible for
> Mark, when you use your Outlook 15.0, please take care not to sent
> duplicated mails. Perhaps you should use a MUA for Mate, instead of
> using MS Windows.
Don't bitch about Outlook. I will continue to use it, never mind why. Windows
is not evil. The mistake was mine, Outlook is not to bla
> On Sat, 2013-10-12 at 01:43 -0500, Mark Allums wrote:
> > > >> Not really, you at least need to manually add a link, regarding
> > > >> to the different program names.
> > > >
> > > > I never did, and never had to. It works fine.
> > >
> > > Just because you're using software that doesn't use th
Hi Mark,
On Sat, 2013-10-12 at 05:13 -0500, Mark Allums wrote:
> > Mark, when you use your Outlook 15.0, please take care not to sent
> > duplicated mails. Perhaps you should use a MUA for Mate, instead of
> > using MS Windows.
>
>
> Don't bitch about Outlook. I will continue to use it, never m
On Fri, Oct 11, 2013 at 6:55 PM, wrote:
> Le 12.10.2013 00:46, Tom H a écrit :
>>
>> Did you notice the "could've"?
>
> Ermm... no, sorry :) did not noticed :/
Pas de soucis! :)
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On Sat, 2013-10-12 at 06:19 -0400, Paul Cartwright wrote:
> don't you think most home use "single-user" systems have 2 people ??
Germany has become a society of singles, solo parents and of people who
live in relationships, but with separated households. Even food industry
makes huge profit by sel
> IOW you might not experience issues with your computer, with Mate and/or
> Windows, but you at least cause issues when using Windows. Those issues
> aren't very serious, but you can't speak about your experiences, that
> everything is ok, while it's not ok.
I certainly can speak about it. I us
On Sat, 2013-10-12 at 05:57 -0500, Mark Allums wrote:
> But don't disparage others who use it. That's just bigoted.
I never did that!
Does Debian recommend to use third party repositories?
Mate isn't ready yet to be used without issues, it someday might be
included to the official repositories.
Le 12.10.2013 13:50, Ralf Mardorf a écrit :
On Sat, 2013-10-12 at 06:19 -0400, Paul Cartwright wrote:
don't you think most home use "single-user" systems have 2 people ??
Germany has become a society of singles, solo parents and of people
who
live in relationships, but with separated house
On Sat, 2013-10-12 at 07:04 -0500, Mark Allums wrote:
> > Regarding to the OPs request I guess that there's a reason that Debian
> > maintainers didn't upgrade to Cinnamon 2.0 yet. It's easy to build
> > packages that run on your or my machine, but a maintainer needs to
> > ensure that things don't
Le 12.10.2013 14:04, Mark Allums a écrit :
I'm not nagging about you. My concern is to nag about recommending a
third party repository, that is known to cause issues. If the OP
does
like Cinnamon, then IMO the OP should use the official packages to
ensure that it's as stable as possible and not
On Fri, Oct 11, 2013 at 8:09 PM, Ralf Mardorf
wrote:
> On Fri, 2013-10-11 at 18:43 -0400, Tom H wrote:
>> On Fri, Oct 11, 2013 at 2:57 PM, Ralf Mardorf
>> wrote:
>>> On Fri, 11 Oct 2013 19:42:44 +0200, Tom H wrote:
MATE can be installed alongside other DEs on Fedora so I'm not at all
>
On Wed, 09 Oct 2013 21:16:11 -0400 (EDT), Antonio Paiva wrote:
>
> I have recently acquired an old Sony Vaio PCG-C1VN (aka, a "PictureBook")
> and installed Debian wheezy. The problem is that I can only get the
> *console* to run at 640x480 resolution.
>
> The C1VN has a (very wide) native resolu
On Fri, 11 Oct 2013 12:52:17 -0500
"Mark Allums" wrote:
> > On Fri, 2013-10-11 at 11:34 -0500, Mark Allums wrote:
> > > The dialogs from Gnome 3 (zenity) serves, so mate-dialogs-gnome
> > > isn't needed if zenity is installed (and mate-dialogs-gnome can
> > > serve in place for zenity as well).
>
On 10/12/2013 7:50 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
On Sat, 2013-10-12 at 06:19 -0400, Paul Cartwright wrote:
don't you think most home use "single-user" systems have 2 people ??
Germany has become a society of singles, solo parents and of people who
live in relationships, but with separated households
Le 12.10.2013 15:16, Jerry Stuckle a écrit :
On 10/12/2013 7:50 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
On Sat, 2013-10-12 at 06:19 -0400, Paul Cartwright wrote:
don't you think most home use "single-user" systems have 2 people
??
Germany has become a society of singles, solo parents and of people
who
liv
On Sat, 12 Oct 2013 14:28:10 +0200
berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
>
> 1: of course, a DHCP can helps, and I have seen those made by an
> association starting to buy and configure dedicated hardware. But
> even then, the last time I went there they had not setup a DHCP.
> Windows is able to
On 10/12/2013 9:20 AM, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
Le 12.10.2013 15:16, Jerry Stuckle a écrit :
On 10/12/2013 7:50 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
On Sat, 2013-10-12 at 06:19 -0400, Paul Cartwright wrote:
don't you think most home use "single-user" systems have 2 people ??
Germany has bec
> > The point of mentioning MATE was in context with adding MATE to
> > Debian. Our point was, there are only minor problems with that
> > happening, and they should be solvable fairly easily within a short
> > period of time
>
> > (i.e., in the time between releases of Stable).
>
> This problem
On Saturday 12 October 2013 14:42:31 Mark Allums wrote:
> I loved KDE 3.
Have you looked at Trinity? It is a fork of KDE3 as MATE is a fork of
Gnome2.
http://www.trinitydesktop.org/
Lisi
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> I don't nag about endless lines,
> It's not the end of the world, but unfavourable when you argument about
> not running into issues with your computer, while causing issues for the
> list, when you're using Windows,
> IOW you might not experience issues with your computer, with Mate and/or
>
On Sat, 2013-10-12 at 14:28 +0200, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
> [snip]
Time to switch to the OT list or to reply off-list ;).
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> On Saturday 12 October 2013 14:42:31 Mark Allums wrote:
> > I loved KDE 3.
>
> Have you looked at Trinity? It is a fork of KDE3 as MATE is a fork of
> Gnome2.
> http://www.trinitydesktop.org/
>
> Lisi
Thanks. I will check it out.
Mark
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Joe writes:
> I think the vast majority of computers are used with an Internet
> connection, which these days means a router rather than a modem.
1) A dialup connection to the Internet is still an Internet connection.
2) A DSL or cable modem is still a modem (MOdulator/DEModulator), though
most in
I have recently updated my motherboard which has resulted in me having
an updated realtek r8168 chip (rev 6 instead of rev 3), unfortunately
the new chip fails to get a connection via dhcp, and setting a static
address results in 100% packet loss.
I am currently running sid amd64 and have trie
On 10/12/2013 10:27 AM, Paul Cartwright wrote:
> ok, I have exim4 setup as internet site, using Maildir. my
> /home/user/Maildir is there. I sent a test message and a new message
> shows up in /home/user/Maildir/new .
> in Thunderbird when I try to check mail in that account is says Unable
> to loc
On Sat, 2013-10-12 at 14:05 +0100, Sharon Kimble wrote:
> http://http.debian.net/debian/pool/main/g/gobby-infinote/gobby-0.5_0.4.94-5.1_i386.deb
> 403 Forbidden'
Try
http://debian.netcologne.de/debian/pool/main/g/gobby-infinote/gobby-0.5_0.4.94-5.1_i386.deb
instead [1].
Regards,
Ralf
PS: [2]
Le 12.10.2013 15:42, Mark Allums a écrit :
I might could change the typos in docs to become different typos in
different places. I can't develop for MATE, it's not part of my
skill
set. I will encourage other people to get involved, that much, I can
do.
Package maintenance is not really a
On Sat, 2013-10-12 at 14:05 +0100, Sharon Kimble wrote:
> http://http.debian.net/debian/pool/main/g/gobby-infinote/gobby-0.5_0.4.94-5.1_i386.deb
> 403 Forbidden'
Try
http://debian.netcologne.de/debian/pool/main/g/gobby-infinote/gobby-0.5_0.4.94-5.1_i386.deb
instead [1].
Regards,
Ralf
PS: [2]
On Sat, 2013-10-12 at 09:08 -0500, Mark Allums wrote:
> > I don't nag about endless lines,
>
> > It's not the end of the world, but unfavourable when you argument about
> > not running into issues with your computer, while causing issues for the
> > list, when you're using Windows,
>
> > IOW you
On Sat, 2013-10-12 at 09:37 -0400, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
> On 10/12/2013 9:20 AM, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
> > I think that the point in his message was to show that it is not because
> > the usage in your, or mine, or his, country is something that this use
> > is the usage of the major
Sending tot the list sorry gary
On 12/10/13 15:32, Gary Dale wrote:
I had a similar problem but fixed it by enabling IOEMU in the BIOS of
my Gigabyte 970A-D3P.
I assume you mean IOMMU, I had already enabled this a few minutes before
you suggested it but it didn't appear to work at first. H
Jesse Molina wrote:
Hi
I have a Debian unstable host which successfully boots from the
linux-image-3.10-1-amd64 kernel package. However, I recently installed
the linux-image-3.10-3-amd64 kernel package, and it is unbootable.
When I boot from the linux-image-3.10-3-amd64 package kernel, the
Hi,
I think Debian Sid is using GNOME 3.8 currently. Now how can I install
GNOME 3.10 in Debian with it's core apps e.g. music, photos, maps?
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On 12/10/13 16:37, Gary Dale wrote:
On 12/10/13 11:03 AM, Wackojacko wrote:
On 12/10/13 15:32, Gary Dale wrote:
I had a similar problem but fixed it by enabling IOEMU in the BIOS of
my Gigabyte 970A-D3P.
I assume you mean IOMMU, I had already enabled this a few minutes before
you suggested i
ok, I have exim4 setup as internet site, using Maildir. my
/home/user/Maildir is there. I sent a test message and a new message
shows up in /home/user/Maildir/new .
in Thunderbird when I try to check mail in that account is says Unable
to locate Mail spool file. It is a UNIX Movemail account. What
On 12/10/13 11:03 AM, Wackojacko wrote:
On 12/10/13 15:32, Gary Dale wrote:
I had a similar problem but fixed it by enabling IOEMU in the BIOS of
my Gigabyte 970A-D3P.
I assume you mean IOMMU, I had already enabled this a few minutes before
you suggested it but it didn't appear to work at fir
Oh I have fond memories of aptitude breaking my system. Once it
suggested me to remove most of my system, including apt, I thought it
was going to upgrade it so I confirmed it. I had to reinstall apt from
the debian packages website.
In this new installation I gave it another try but when it start
On 12/10/13 10:25 AM, Wackojacko wrote:
I have recently updated my motherboard which has resulted in me having
an updated realtek r8168 chip (rev 6 instead of rev 3), unfortunately
the new chip fails to get a connection via dhcp, and setting a static
address results in 100% packet loss.
I am cur
On Oct 12, 2013, at 10:15 AM, John Hasler wrote:
>
> Joe writes:
>> I think the vast majority of computers are used with an Internet
>> connection, which these days means a router rather than a modem.
>
> 1) A dialup connection to the Internet is still an Internet connection.
> 2) A DSL or cabl
Rhiamom writes:
> I thought that cablemodems were technically bridges, not modems at
> all, with or without the router capability most now have.
The data is transmitted modulated onto a carrier (the modulation method
is quite complex) not as baseband. Thus the device is a modem.
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Le 12 oct. 2013 17:30, "MUH Jeeshan" a écrit :
>
> Hi,
> I think Debian Sid is using GNOME 3.8 currently. Now how can I install
GNOME 3.10 in Debian with it's core apps e.g. music, photos, maps?
>
It is using gtk 3.8 but gnome shell 3.4.
Gnome shell 3.8 is in experimental.
Long way for full gno
On 10/12/2013 9:27 AM, Paul Cartwright wrote:
> ok, I have exim4 setup as internet site, using Maildir. my
> /home/user/Maildir is there. I sent a test message and a new message
> shows up in /home/user/Maildir/new .
> in Thunderbird when I try to check mail in that account is says Unable
> to loca
That's a good idea, but this system already had a rootdelay=5
configured, and I even raised it to 15 during testing with no effect
upon the situation.
I have had problems on a different host using md RAID5 as it's boot
array, which requires a rootdelay on the 3.8 and 3.10 kernels. There are
Hello Brian,
> Clicking on scrollbars does different things with different applications. In
> Emacs, the following used to be standard:
>
> - left click: one screenful down
> - right click: one screenful up
> - middle click: jump to where you clicked
Better than that, the left and right click s
On Sat, 12 Oct 2013 09:15:16 -0500
John Hasler wrote:
> Joe writes:
> > I think the vast majority of computers are used with an Internet
> > connection, which these days means a router rather than a modem.
>
> 1) A dialup connection to the Internet is still an Internet
> connection.
Indeed, but
Thank you Dmitrii.
I did try "vga=ask" but that option is no longer supported by the
debian kernel. On the grub console, I also tried vbeinfo and couldn't
find the 1024x480 mode. And vbetest only worked with 640x480.
Antonio
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Joe wrote:
On Sat, 12 Oct 2013 09:15:16 -0500
John Hasler wrote:
Joe writes:
I think the vast majority of computers are used with an Internet
connection, which these days means a router rather than a modem.
1) A dialup connection to the Internet is still an Internet
connection.
Indeed, but
Francesco Pietra wrote:
> I hope not to bother beyond the limit, but the security of mirror raid is
> something of utmost importance, at least in my work of biochemist, with
> very limited ability in recovering from disk failures.
I must express concern. While RAID is very useful to keeping a sys
Hendrik Boom wrote:
> I ran
> mdadm /dev/md1 --add /dev/sdd2
> and got a segmentation fault.
Ouch. Scary!
> april:/farhome/hendrik# cat /proc/mdstat
> Personalities : [raid1]
> md1 : active raid1 sdb2[1]
> 2391295864 blocks super 1.2 [2/1] [_U]
>
> md0 : active raid1 sda4[0] sdc4[1
Steven G. Johnson wrote:
> Jochen Spieker wrote:
> >Very strange. Did you try changing to another mirror, just to see if
> >that helps? Did you set a proxy in /etc/apt/apt.conf{,.d}?
>
> That was the problem: we had previously been using the approx proxy
> server, and there was an Acquire::http::p
Ivan Kovnatsky wrote:
> Karl E. Jorgensen wrote:
> > Hm. This should not be happening.
> > Was it DHCP recently? (i.e. at any time since the last reboot) Because
> > this sequence of events would produce what you saw:
>
> I have uptime:
>
> And I fount that dhcp was running:
>
> > Alternativel
berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
> Anjan Mitra a écrit :
> >debian-7.1.0-amd64-DVD-1.iso [1] 2013-06-16 01:39 3.7G
> >debian-7.1.0-amd64-DVD-2.iso [2] 2013-06-16 01:39 4.4G
> >debian-7.1.0-amd64-DVD-3.iso [3] 2013-06-16 01:39 4.4G
> >debian-update-7.1.0-amd64-DVD-1.iso [4] 2013-06-16 05:34 2.9G
On 12.Okt.2013, at 01:22, Terho Uotila wrote:
> On Sat, 12 Oct 2013 00:11:01 +0200
> berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
>
>> Oh, of course, if you speak about giving yourself a label, then,
>> fine. Take the one you want. But, it does not mean that you can claim
>> to be a professional, or tha
Ulrik Haugen wrote:
> When I boot my machine something like the following is printed:
I don't know. But there haven't been any other responses for several
days. So I will make a comment.
> [ 50.220571] xt_addrtype: ipv6 does not support BROADCAST matching
> Starting "Shorewall firewall": not
On Sat, Oct 12, 2013 at 12:10 PM, msl09 wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 12, 2013 at 2:45 AM, Dmitrii Kashin wrote:
>> Tom H writes:
>
> Have you filed a bug report about aptitude breaking apt (whatever
> that means!) or is this just FUD?
No, I have not. Because it is normal aptitude's
On Sat, Oct 12, 2013 at 3:30 PM, Jesse Molina wrote:
> On 10/12/13 8:22 AM, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
>> Jesse Molina wrote:
>>>
>>> I have a Debian unstable host which successfully boots from the
>>> linux-image-3.10-1-amd64 kernel package. However, I recently installed the
>>> linux-image-3.10-3-am
Howdy all,
I was creating a bootable USB stick from an installer image on another
external hard drive. I did a cat debian-7.1.0-i386-netinst.iso > /dev/sdb
when I meant /dev/sdc. sdb was my external drive with the iso on it, and
other files. I am now unable to mount that drive. What, if anything,
On Sat, 2013-10-12 at 19:40 -0400, Tom H wrote:
> I suspect that the problem's in the examples above are simply PEBKAC.
Likely, since the libre to break a system temporarily sometimes is
needed to fix issues, or to make transitions.
We are humans, so something like "Once it suggested me to remove
On 10/12/2013 11:10 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote:> On Sat, 2013-10-12 at 09:37
-0400, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>> On 10/12/2013 9:20 AM, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
>>> I think that the point in his message was to show that it is not
because
>>> the usage in your, or mine, or his, country is som
The problem is that you didn't delete it, but you've overwritten the
data, OTOH the ISO is very small, so not very much is overwritten. First
you need to try to recover the partition table. Assumed this should
work, then mount the drive read only and use a tool to undelete files
for the original u
Jesse Molina wrote:
> As I said before, the md RAIDs are being assembled. udev, or
> something else, is failing to properly create the device nodes.
A shot in the dark but... Have you added a new md device recently but
forgotten to update the /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf file? The initrd
creation will
Tom H wrote at 2013-10-12 18:40 -0500:
> I suspect that the problem's in the examples above are simply PEBKAC.
I use aptitude, and find it to be *more* useful than apt because of
its *interactive* dependency resolver. Probably if people have
trouble with aptitude it is because the package selecti
Nope. No changes since the original system creation. Thanks for trying
though.
On 10/12/13 7:18 PM, Bob Proulx wrote:
Jesse Molina wrote:
As I said before, the md RAIDs are being assembled. udev, or
something else, is failing to properly create the device nodes.
A shot in the dark but..
I just did a big update with the latest wheezy update (using the aptitude
GUI). Several things seemed odd; and I'm not sure if everything is OK.
I'm hoping for some info about what's going on.
I have LVM volume groups that are missing disks, which produce errors
during some operations (e.g., upda
On Sat, Oct 12, 2013 at 09:54:18PM -0700, Ross Boylan wrote:
> I just did a big update with the latest wheezy update (using the aptitude
> GUI). Several things seemed odd; and I'm not sure if everything is OK.
> I'm hoping for some info about what's going on.
I'll try to do my best. I'm sure some
Hello:
I know that a correct software mirror raid is subject to failures, when
anything wrong is written to both disks. And I also know that hardware
mirror raid is subject to hardware failures. I said at the beginning that I
keep two wheezy mirror-raid servers with the same data and software. Now
Okay, this is helpful. Unfortunately, I don't know a lot about Debian's
initramfs scripts, and I'm fairly ignorant of udev beyond it's basic
functions and rule files. So, advice on basic troubleshooting of udev
would be helpful to me.
I am going to go play with this system here shortly, so
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