RE: Installing Cinnamon 2.0

2013-10-12 Thread Mark Allums
> https://github.com/mate-desktop/archlinux-packages >From the linked page: mate-file-archiver: Removed any packages from the >'depends' that are pulled in via gtk2. 24 days ago Looks to me like they fixed the conflict in Arch. You have no leg to stand on with this one. Also, that's Arch.

RE: Installing Cinnamon 2.0

2013-10-12 Thread Mark Allums
> > https://github.com/mate-desktop/debian-packages >--> > https://github.com/mate-desktop/debian-packages/tree/master/mate-file- > archiver These are irrelevant. mate-file-archiver does not exist anymore, and engrampa is optional. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.

Re: Installing Cinnamon 2.0

2013-10-12 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2013-10-12 at 01:43 -0500, Mark Allums wrote: > > >> Not really, you at least need to manually add a link, regarding > > >> to the different program names. > > > > > > I never did, and never had to. It works fine. > > > > Just because you're using software that doesn't use this software

Re: deploy ?

2013-10-12 Thread Diogene Laerce
Have you enabled the necessary WSGI modules in Apache and performed the necessary configuration? You have to remember that the Django python files need an application server to compile and process. Apache out of the box doesn't do that. mod_wshi is one option. I guess you mean mod_wsgi cos I

Re: Installing Cinnamon 2.0

2013-10-12 Thread Ralf Mardorf
Mark, when you use your Outlook 15.0, please take care not to sent duplicated mails. Perhaps you should use a MUA for Mate, instead of using MS Windows. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org

Re: gnome depends on adblock-plus

2013-10-12 Thread Marko Randjelovic
"One Ring to rule them all, One Ring to find them, One Ring to bring them all and in the darkness bind them In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie." :) apt-get install gnome-applets gnome-screenshot gnome-session gnome-panel gnome-terminal gedit gdm3 file-roller gnome-icon-theme -- To UN

Re: gnome depends on adblock-plus

2013-10-12 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2013-10-12 at 10:58 +0200, Marko Randjelovic wrote: > apt-get install gnome-applets gnome-screenshot gnome-session > gnome-panel gnome-terminal gedit gdm3 file-roller gnome-icon-theme After running that apt-get command, there still would be a meta-package available by the repositories, tha

linux-image-3.10-3-amd64 unbootable: /dev/disk/by-uuid not created

2013-10-12 Thread Jesse Molina
Hi I have a Debian unstable host which successfully boots from the linux-image-3.10-1-amd64 kernel package. However, I recently installed the linux-image-3.10-3-amd64 kernel package, and it is unbootable. When I boot from the linux-image-3.10-3-amd64 package kernel, the boot fails and drop

Re: gnome depends on adblock-plus

2013-10-12 Thread berenger . morel
Le 12.10.2013 10:58, Marko Randjelovic a écrit : "One Ring to rule them all, One Ring to find them, One Ring to bring them all and in the darkness bind them In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie." :) apt-get install gnome-applets gnome-screenshot gnome-session gnome-panel gnome-termina

Re: sysadmin qualifications (Re: apt-get vs. aptitude)

2013-10-12 Thread Paul Cartwright
On 10/11/2013 08:24 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote: > > Wikipedia is hardly what I would call "reliable". This "definition" > is one person's opinion, nothing more. absolutely > > I happen to disagree. Even single user systems need sysadmins. And > the sysadmin is the person ultimately responsible for

RE: Installing Cinnamon 2.0

2013-10-12 Thread Mark Allums
> Mark, when you use your Outlook 15.0, please take care not to sent > duplicated mails. Perhaps you should use a MUA for Mate, instead of > using MS Windows. Don't bitch about Outlook. I will continue to use it, never mind why. Windows is not evil. The mistake was mine, Outlook is not to bla

RE: Installing Cinnamon 2.0

2013-10-12 Thread Mark Allums
> On Sat, 2013-10-12 at 01:43 -0500, Mark Allums wrote: > > > >> Not really, you at least need to manually add a link, regarding > > > >> to the different program names. > > > > > > > > I never did, and never had to. It works fine. > > > > > > Just because you're using software that doesn't use th

Re: Installing Cinnamon 2.0

2013-10-12 Thread Ralf Mardorf
Hi Mark, On Sat, 2013-10-12 at 05:13 -0500, Mark Allums wrote: > > Mark, when you use your Outlook 15.0, please take care not to sent > > duplicated mails. Perhaps you should use a MUA for Mate, instead of > > using MS Windows. > > > Don't bitch about Outlook. I will continue to use it, never m

Re: Installing Cinnamon 2.0

2013-10-12 Thread Tom H
On Fri, Oct 11, 2013 at 6:55 PM, wrote: > Le 12.10.2013 00:46, Tom H a écrit : >> >> Did you notice the "could've"? > > Ermm... no, sorry :) did not noticed :/ Pas de soucis! :) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact l

Re: sysadmin qualifications (Re: apt-get vs. aptitude)

2013-10-12 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2013-10-12 at 06:19 -0400, Paul Cartwright wrote: > don't you think most home use "single-user" systems have 2 people ?? Germany has become a society of singles, solo parents and of people who live in relationships, but with separated households. Even food industry makes huge profit by sel

RE: Installing Cinnamon 2.0

2013-10-12 Thread Mark Allums
> IOW you might not experience issues with your computer, with Mate and/or > Windows, but you at least cause issues when using Windows. Those issues > aren't very serious, but you can't speak about your experiences, that > everything is ok, while it's not ok. I certainly can speak about it. I us

Re: Installing Cinnamon 2.0

2013-10-12 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2013-10-12 at 05:57 -0500, Mark Allums wrote: > But don't disparage others who use it. That's just bigoted. I never did that! Does Debian recommend to use third party repositories? Mate isn't ready yet to be used without issues, it someday might be included to the official repositories.

Re: sysadmin qualifications (Re: apt-get vs. aptitude)

2013-10-12 Thread berenger . morel
Le 12.10.2013 13:50, Ralf Mardorf a écrit : On Sat, 2013-10-12 at 06:19 -0400, Paul Cartwright wrote: don't you think most home use "single-user" systems have 2 people ?? Germany has become a society of singles, solo parents and of people who live in relationships, but with separated house

Re: Installing Cinnamon 2.0

2013-10-12 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2013-10-12 at 07:04 -0500, Mark Allums wrote: > > Regarding to the OPs request I guess that there's a reason that Debian > > maintainers didn't upgrade to Cinnamon 2.0 yet. It's easy to build > > packages that run on your or my machine, but a maintainer needs to > > ensure that things don't

RE: Installing Cinnamon 2.0

2013-10-12 Thread berenger . morel
Le 12.10.2013 14:04, Mark Allums a écrit : I'm not nagging about you. My concern is to nag about recommending a third party repository, that is known to cause issues. If the OP does like Cinnamon, then IMO the OP should use the official packages to ensure that it's as stable as possible and not

Re: Installing Cinnamon 2.0

2013-10-12 Thread Tom H
On Fri, Oct 11, 2013 at 8:09 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Fri, 2013-10-11 at 18:43 -0400, Tom H wrote: >> On Fri, Oct 11, 2013 at 2:57 PM, Ralf Mardorf >> wrote: >>> On Fri, 11 Oct 2013 19:42:44 +0200, Tom H wrote: MATE can be installed alongside other DEs on Fedora so I'm not at all >

Re: Set widescreen resolution in console

2013-10-12 Thread Stephen Powell
On Wed, 09 Oct 2013 21:16:11 -0400 (EDT), Antonio Paiva wrote: > > I have recently acquired an old Sony Vaio PCG-C1VN (aka, a "PictureBook") > and installed Debian wheezy. The problem is that I can only get the > *console* to run at 640x480 resolution. > > The C1VN has a (very wide) native resolu

Re: Installing Cinnamon 2.0

2013-10-12 Thread Sharon Kimble
On Fri, 11 Oct 2013 12:52:17 -0500 "Mark Allums" wrote: > > On Fri, 2013-10-11 at 11:34 -0500, Mark Allums wrote: > > > The dialogs from Gnome 3 (zenity) serves, so mate-dialogs-gnome > > > isn't needed if zenity is installed (and mate-dialogs-gnome can > > > serve in place for zenity as well). >

Re: sysadmin qualifications (Re: apt-get vs. aptitude)

2013-10-12 Thread Jerry Stuckle
On 10/12/2013 7:50 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Sat, 2013-10-12 at 06:19 -0400, Paul Cartwright wrote: don't you think most home use "single-user" systems have 2 people ?? Germany has become a society of singles, solo parents and of people who live in relationships, but with separated households

Re: sysadmin qualifications (Re: apt-get vs. aptitude)

2013-10-12 Thread berenger . morel
Le 12.10.2013 15:16, Jerry Stuckle a écrit : On 10/12/2013 7:50 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Sat, 2013-10-12 at 06:19 -0400, Paul Cartwright wrote: don't you think most home use "single-user" systems have 2 people ?? Germany has become a society of singles, solo parents and of people who liv

Re: sysadmin qualifications (Re: apt-get vs. aptitude)

2013-10-12 Thread Joe
On Sat, 12 Oct 2013 14:28:10 +0200 berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: > > 1: of course, a DHCP can helps, and I have seen those made by an > association starting to buy and configure dedicated hardware. But > even then, the last time I went there they had not setup a DHCP. > Windows is able to

Re: sysadmin qualifications (Re: apt-get vs. aptitude)

2013-10-12 Thread Jerry Stuckle
On 10/12/2013 9:20 AM, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: Le 12.10.2013 15:16, Jerry Stuckle a écrit : On 10/12/2013 7:50 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Sat, 2013-10-12 at 06:19 -0400, Paul Cartwright wrote: don't you think most home use "single-user" systems have 2 people ?? Germany has bec

RE: Installing Cinnamon 2.0

2013-10-12 Thread Mark Allums
> > The point of mentioning MATE was in context with adding MATE to > > Debian. Our point was, there are only minor problems with that > > happening, and they should be solvable fairly easily within a short > > period of time > > > (i.e., in the time between releases of Stable). > > This problem

Re: Installing Cinnamon 2.0

2013-10-12 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Saturday 12 October 2013 14:42:31 Mark Allums wrote: > I loved KDE 3. Have you looked at Trinity? It is a fork of KDE3 as MATE is a fork of Gnome2. http://www.trinitydesktop.org/ Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Troub

RE: Installing Cinnamon 2.0

2013-10-12 Thread Mark Allums
> I don't nag about endless lines, > It's not the end of the world, but unfavourable when you argument about > not running into issues with your computer, while causing issues for the > list, when you're using Windows, > IOW you might not experience issues with your computer, with Mate and/or >

Re: sysadmin qualifications (Re: apt-get vs. aptitude)

2013-10-12 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2013-10-12 at 14:28 +0200, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: > [snip] Time to switch to the OT list or to reply off-list ;). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http:/

RE: Installing Cinnamon 2.0

2013-10-12 Thread Mark Allums
> On Saturday 12 October 2013 14:42:31 Mark Allums wrote: > > I loved KDE 3. > > Have you looked at Trinity? It is a fork of KDE3 as MATE is a fork of > Gnome2. > http://www.trinitydesktop.org/ > > Lisi Thanks. I will check it out. Mark -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@li

Re: sysadmin qualifications (Re: apt-get vs. aptitude)

2013-10-12 Thread John Hasler
Joe writes: > I think the vast majority of computers are used with an Internet > connection, which these days means a router rather than a modem. 1) A dialup connection to the Internet is still an Internet connection. 2) A DSL or cable modem is still a modem (MOdulator/DEModulator), though most in

realtek r8189 driver problem on 64 bit kernel

2013-10-12 Thread Wackojacko
I have recently updated my motherboard which has resulted in me having an updated realtek r8168 chip (rev 6 instead of rev 3), unfortunately the new chip fails to get a connection via dhcp, and setting a static address results in 100% packet loss. I am currently running sid amd64 and have trie

Re: Unable to locate mail spool file.-SOLVED

2013-10-12 Thread Paul Cartwright
On 10/12/2013 10:27 AM, Paul Cartwright wrote: > ok, I have exim4 setup as internet site, using Maildir. my > /home/user/Maildir is there. I sent a test message and a new message > shows up in /home/user/Maildir/new . > in Thunderbird when I try to check mail in that account is says Unable > to loc

Re: Installing Cinnamon 2.0

2013-10-12 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2013-10-12 at 14:05 +0100, Sharon Kimble wrote: > http://http.debian.net/debian/pool/main/g/gobby-infinote/gobby-0.5_0.4.94-5.1_i386.deb > 403 Forbidden' Try http://debian.netcologne.de/debian/pool/main/g/gobby-infinote/gobby-0.5_0.4.94-5.1_i386.deb instead [1]. Regards, Ralf PS: [2]

RE: Installing Cinnamon 2.0

2013-10-12 Thread berenger . morel
Le 12.10.2013 15:42, Mark Allums a écrit : I might could change the typos in docs to become different typos in different places. I can't develop for MATE, it's not part of my skill set. I will encourage other people to get involved, that much, I can do. Package maintenance is not really a

Re: Installing Cinnamon 2.0

2013-10-12 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2013-10-12 at 14:05 +0100, Sharon Kimble wrote: > http://http.debian.net/debian/pool/main/g/gobby-infinote/gobby-0.5_0.4.94-5.1_i386.deb > 403 Forbidden' Try http://debian.netcologne.de/debian/pool/main/g/gobby-infinote/gobby-0.5_0.4.94-5.1_i386.deb instead [1]. Regards, Ralf PS: [2]

Re: Installing Cinnamon 2.0

2013-10-12 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2013-10-12 at 09:08 -0500, Mark Allums wrote: > > I don't nag about endless lines, > > > It's not the end of the world, but unfavourable when you argument about > > not running into issues with your computer, while causing issues for the > > list, when you're using Windows, > > > IOW you

Re: sysadmin qualifications (Re: apt-get vs. aptitude)

2013-10-12 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2013-10-12 at 09:37 -0400, Jerry Stuckle wrote: > On 10/12/2013 9:20 AM, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: > > I think that the point in his message was to show that it is not because > > the usage in your, or mine, or his, country is something that this use > > is the usage of the major

Re: realtek r8189 driver problem on 64 bit kernel

2013-10-12 Thread Wackojacko
Sending tot the list sorry gary On 12/10/13 15:32, Gary Dale wrote: I had a similar problem but fixed it by enabling IOEMU in the BIOS of my Gigabyte 970A-D3P. I assume you mean IOMMU, I had already enabled this a few minutes before you suggested it but it didn't appear to work at first. H

Re: linux-image-3.10-3-amd64 unbootable: /dev/disk/by-uuid not created

2013-10-12 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
Jesse Molina wrote: Hi I have a Debian unstable host which successfully boots from the linux-image-3.10-1-amd64 kernel package. However, I recently installed the linux-image-3.10-3-amd64 kernel package, and it is unbootable. When I boot from the linux-image-3.10-3-amd64 package kernel, the

GNOME 3.10 Support

2013-10-12 Thread MUH Jeeshan
Hi, I think Debian Sid is using GNOME 3.8 currently. Now how can I install GNOME 3.10 in Debian with it's core apps e.g. music, photos, maps? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive

Re: realtek r8189 driver problem on 64 bit kernel

2013-10-12 Thread Wackojacko
On 12/10/13 16:37, Gary Dale wrote: On 12/10/13 11:03 AM, Wackojacko wrote: On 12/10/13 15:32, Gary Dale wrote: I had a similar problem but fixed it by enabling IOEMU in the BIOS of my Gigabyte 970A-D3P. I assume you mean IOMMU, I had already enabled this a few minutes before you suggested i

Unable to locate mail spool file.

2013-10-12 Thread Paul Cartwright
ok, I have exim4 setup as internet site, using Maildir. my /home/user/Maildir is there. I sent a test message and a new message shows up in /home/user/Maildir/new . in Thunderbird when I try to check mail in that account is says Unable to locate Mail spool file. It is a UNIX Movemail account. What

Re: realtek r8189 driver problem on 64 bit kernel

2013-10-12 Thread Gary Dale
On 12/10/13 11:03 AM, Wackojacko wrote: On 12/10/13 15:32, Gary Dale wrote: I had a similar problem but fixed it by enabling IOEMU in the BIOS of my Gigabyte 970A-D3P. I assume you mean IOMMU, I had already enabled this a few minutes before you suggested it but it didn't appear to work at fir

Re: apt-get vs. aptitude

2013-10-12 Thread msl09
Oh I have fond memories of aptitude breaking my system. Once it suggested me to remove most of my system, including apt, I thought it was going to upgrade it so I confirmed it. I had to reinstall apt from the debian packages website. In this new installation I gave it another try but when it start

Re: realtek r8189 driver problem on 64 bit kernel

2013-10-12 Thread Gary Dale
On 12/10/13 10:25 AM, Wackojacko wrote: I have recently updated my motherboard which has resulted in me having an updated realtek r8168 chip (rev 6 instead of rev 3), unfortunately the new chip fails to get a connection via dhcp, and setting a static address results in 100% packet loss. I am cur

Re: sysadmin qualifications (Re: apt-get vs. aptitude)

2013-10-12 Thread Rhiamom
On Oct 12, 2013, at 10:15 AM, John Hasler wrote: > > Joe writes: >> I think the vast majority of computers are used with an Internet >> connection, which these days means a router rather than a modem. > > 1) A dialup connection to the Internet is still an Internet connection. > 2) A DSL or cabl

Re: sysadmin qualifications (Re: apt-get vs. aptitude)

2013-10-12 Thread John Hasler
Rhiamom writes: > I thought that cablemodems were technically bridges, not modems at > all, with or without the router capability most now have. The data is transmitted modulated onto a carrier (the modulation method is quite complex) not as baseband. Thus the device is a modem. -- John Hasler

Re: GNOME 3.10 Support

2013-10-12 Thread Pascal Obry
Le 12 oct. 2013 17:30, "MUH Jeeshan" a écrit : > > Hi, > I think Debian Sid is using GNOME 3.8 currently. Now how can I install GNOME 3.10 in Debian with it's core apps e.g. music, photos, maps? > It is using gtk 3.8 but gnome shell 3.4. Gnome shell 3.8 is in experimental. Long way for full gno

Re: Unable to locate mail spool file.

2013-10-12 Thread Stan Hoeppner
On 10/12/2013 9:27 AM, Paul Cartwright wrote: > ok, I have exim4 setup as internet site, using Maildir. my > /home/user/Maildir is there. I sent a test message and a new message > shows up in /home/user/Maildir/new . > in Thunderbird when I try to check mail in that account is says Unable > to loca

Re: linux-image-3.10-3-amd64 unbootable: /dev/disk/by-uuid not created

2013-10-12 Thread Jesse Molina
That's a good idea, but this system already had a rootdelay=5 configured, and I even raised it to 15 during testing with no effect upon the situation. I have had problems on a different host using md RAID5 as it's boot array, which requires a rootdelay on the 3.8 and 3.10 kernels. There are

Re: Consistent mouse and scrollbar behavior in X?

2013-10-12 Thread Clive Standbridge
Hello Brian, > Clicking on scrollbars does different things with different applications. In > Emacs, the following used to be standard: > > - left click: one screenful down > - right click: one screenful up > - middle click: jump to where you clicked Better than that, the left and right click s

Re: sysadmin qualifications (Re: apt-get vs. aptitude)

2013-10-12 Thread Joe
On Sat, 12 Oct 2013 09:15:16 -0500 John Hasler wrote: > Joe writes: > > I think the vast majority of computers are used with an Internet > > connection, which these days means a router rather than a modem. > > 1) A dialup connection to the Internet is still an Internet > connection. Indeed, but

RE: Set widescreen resolution in console

2013-10-12 Thread Antonio Paiva
Thank you Dmitrii. I did try "vga=ask" but that option is no longer supported by the debian kernel. On the grub console, I also tried vbeinfo and couldn't find the 1024x480 mode. And vbetest only worked with 640x480. Antonio From: Dmitrii Kashin Sent: 10/10/2013 3:25 PM To: debian-user@lists.debi

Re: sysadmin qualifications (Re: apt-get vs. aptitude)

2013-10-12 Thread Miles Fidelman
Joe wrote: On Sat, 12 Oct 2013 09:15:16 -0500 John Hasler wrote: Joe writes: I think the vast majority of computers are used with an Internet connection, which these days means a router rather than a modem. 1) A dialup connection to the Internet is still an Internet connection. Indeed, but

Re: Debian installer and raid0

2013-10-12 Thread Bob Proulx
Francesco Pietra wrote: > I hope not to bother beyond the limit, but the security of mirror raid is > something of utmost importance, at least in my work of biochemist, with > very limited ability in recovering from disk failures. I must express concern. While RAID is very useful to keeping a sys

Re: mdadm gives segmentatin fault on wheezy. RAID array now incomplete.

2013-10-12 Thread Bob Proulx
Hendrik Boom wrote: > I ran > mdadm /dev/md1 --add /dev/sdd2 > and got a segmentation fault. Ouch. Scary! > april:/farhome/hendrik# cat /proc/mdstat > Personalities : [raid1] > md1 : active raid1 sdb2[1] > 2391295864 blocks super 1.2 [2/1] [_U] > > md0 : active raid1 sda4[0] sdc4[1

Re: apt-get update fails after wheezy update

2013-10-12 Thread Bob Proulx
Steven G. Johnson wrote: > Jochen Spieker wrote: > >Very strange. Did you try changing to another mirror, just to see if > >that helps? Did you set a proxy in /etc/apt/apt.conf{,.d}? > > That was the problem: we had previously been using the approx proxy > server, and there was an Acquire::http::p

Re: [SOLVED] Static IP /etc/network/interfaces, but got leased by dhcp

2013-10-12 Thread Bob Proulx
Ivan Kovnatsky wrote: > Karl E. Jorgensen wrote: > > Hm. This should not be happening. > > Was it DHCP recently? (i.e. at any time since the last reboot) Because > > this sequence of events would produce what you saw: > > I have uptime: > > And I fount that dhcp was running: > > > Alternativel

Re: which file should I download

2013-10-12 Thread Bob Proulx
berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: > Anjan Mitra a écrit : > >debian-7.1.0-amd64-DVD-1.iso [1] 2013-06-16 01:39 3.7G > >debian-7.1.0-amd64-DVD-2.iso [2] 2013-06-16 01:39 4.4G > >debian-7.1.0-amd64-DVD-3.iso [3] 2013-06-16 01:39 4.4G > >debian-update-7.1.0-amd64-DVD-1.iso [4] 2013-06-16 05:34 2.9G

Re: sysadmin qualifications (Re: apt-get vs. aptitude)

2013-10-12 Thread Markus Falb
On 12.Okt.2013, at 01:22, Terho Uotila wrote: > On Sat, 12 Oct 2013 00:11:01 +0200 > berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: > >> Oh, of course, if you speak about giving yourself a label, then, >> fine. Take the one you want. But, it does not mean that you can claim >> to be a professional, or tha

Re: Problem starting shorewall6 (or possibly shorewall) on boot

2013-10-12 Thread Bob Proulx
Ulrik Haugen wrote: > When I boot my machine something like the following is printed: I don't know. But there haven't been any other responses for several days. So I will make a comment. > [ 50.220571] xt_addrtype: ipv6 does not support BROADCAST matching > Starting "Shorewall firewall": not

Re: apt-get vs. aptitude

2013-10-12 Thread Tom H
On Sat, Oct 12, 2013 at 12:10 PM, msl09 wrote: > On Sat, Oct 12, 2013 at 2:45 AM, Dmitrii Kashin wrote: >> Tom H writes: > > Have you filed a bug report about aptitude breaking apt (whatever > that means!) or is this just FUD? No, I have not. Because it is normal aptitude's

Re: linux-image-3.10-3-amd64 unbootable: /dev/disk/by-uuid not created

2013-10-12 Thread Tom H
On Sat, Oct 12, 2013 at 3:30 PM, Jesse Molina wrote: > On 10/12/13 8:22 AM, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: >> Jesse Molina wrote: >>> >>> I have a Debian unstable host which successfully boots from the >>> linux-image-3.10-1-amd64 kernel package. However, I recently installed the >>> linux-image-3.10-3-am

Oops - copied iso image to wrong device

2013-10-12 Thread mark ryan
Howdy all, I was creating a bootable USB stick from an installer image on another external hard drive. I did a cat debian-7.1.0-i386-netinst.iso > /dev/sdb when I meant /dev/sdc. sdb was my external drive with the iso on it, and other files. I am now unable to mount that drive. What, if anything,

Re: apt-get vs. aptitude

2013-10-12 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2013-10-12 at 19:40 -0400, Tom H wrote: > I suspect that the problem's in the examples above are simply PEBKAC. Likely, since the libre to break a system temporarily sometimes is needed to fix issues, or to make transitions. We are humans, so something like "Once it suggested me to remove

Re: sysadmin qualifications (Re: apt-get vs. aptitude)

2013-10-12 Thread Jerry Stuckle
On 10/12/2013 11:10 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote:> On Sat, 2013-10-12 at 09:37 -0400, Jerry Stuckle wrote: >> On 10/12/2013 9:20 AM, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: >>> I think that the point in his message was to show that it is not because >>> the usage in your, or mine, or his, country is som

Re: Oops - copied iso image to wrong device

2013-10-12 Thread Ralf Mardorf
The problem is that you didn't delete it, but you've overwritten the data, OTOH the ISO is very small, so not very much is overwritten. First you need to try to recover the partition table. Assumed this should work, then mount the drive read only and use a tool to undelete files for the original u

Re: linux-image-3.10-3-amd64 unbootable: /dev/disk/by-uuid not created

2013-10-12 Thread Bob Proulx
Jesse Molina wrote: > As I said before, the md RAIDs are being assembled. udev, or > something else, is failing to properly create the device nodes. A shot in the dark but... Have you added a new md device recently but forgotten to update the /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf file? The initrd creation will

Re: apt-get vs. aptitude

2013-10-12 Thread green
Tom H wrote at 2013-10-12 18:40 -0500: > I suspect that the problem's in the examples above are simply PEBKAC. I use aptitude, and find it to be *more* useful than apt because of its *interactive* dependency resolver. Probably if people have trouble with aptitude it is because the package selecti

Re: linux-image-3.10-3-amd64 unbootable: /dev/disk/by-uuid not created

2013-10-12 Thread Jesse Molina
Nope. No changes since the original system creation. Thanks for trying though. On 10/12/13 7:18 PM, Bob Proulx wrote: Jesse Molina wrote: As I said before, the md RAIDs are being assembled. udev, or something else, is failing to properly create the device nodes. A shot in the dark but..

mysteries with latest update

2013-10-12 Thread Ross Boylan
I just did a big update with the latest wheezy update (using the aptitude GUI). Several things seemed odd; and I'm not sure if everything is OK. I'm hoping for some info about what's going on. I have LVM volume groups that are missing disks, which produce errors during some operations (e.g., upda

Re: mysteries with latest update

2013-10-12 Thread Gregory Nowak
On Sat, Oct 12, 2013 at 09:54:18PM -0700, Ross Boylan wrote: > I just did a big update with the latest wheezy update (using the aptitude > GUI). Several things seemed odd; and I'm not sure if everything is OK. > I'm hoping for some info about what's going on. I'll try to do my best. I'm sure some

Re: Debian installer and raid0

2013-10-12 Thread Francesco Pietra
Hello: I know that a correct software mirror raid is subject to failures, when anything wrong is written to both disks. And I also know that hardware mirror raid is subject to hardware failures. I said at the beginning that I keep two wheezy mirror-raid servers with the same data and software. Now

Re: linux-image-3.10-3-amd64 unbootable: /dev/disk/by-uuid not created

2013-10-12 Thread Jesse Molina
Okay, this is helpful. Unfortunately, I don't know a lot about Debian's initramfs scripts, and I'm fairly ignorant of udev beyond it's basic functions and rule files. So, advice on basic troubleshooting of udev would be helpful to me. I am going to go play with this system here shortly, so