On 27/07/10 00:38, vr wrote:
What is a good utility to block outbound traffic on the home network?
Ideally it will not need to be set in a browsers proxy setting to be
effective.
Cheap old PC, two nics, stick OS of choice on, create firewall rules,
install squid, setup, use this as your ne
Dne, 28. 07. 2010 03:53:43 je Paul E Condon napisal(a):
Stan,
Have you ever heard of the term 'invincible ignorance'?
Also, you have asserted with some vigor upstream
Your original post ... IMHO, was correct but somewhat harshly worded.
Peace.
IMHO, Stan's deep, invaluable expertise is
Michal schreef:
On 27/07/10 00:38, vr wrote:
What is a good utility to block outbound traffic on the home network?
Ideally it will not need to be set in a browsers proxy setting to be
effective.
Cheap old PC, two nics, stick OS of choice on, create firewall rules,
install squid, setup, us
On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 17:53:40 +0100, AG wrote:
> I'm facing a bit of a delicate issue: I have created an account on my
> machine for someone staying with us, and I have strong suspicions that
> he is engaging in on-line behaviour that he is not supposed to be doing.
>
> Can anyone recommend a tool
I could have sworn I have done this before but obviously
not because I can't get it to work no matter what I try.
I am running a shell script that is supposed to find
every .zip or .ZIP file in a directory and do an extraction of
the contents. I don't want any other files to be inc
Perhaps, try with this:
for MAGFILE in `ls $MAGDIR/*.[Zz][Ii][Pp]`; do
El 28/07/10 13:33, Martin McCormick escribió:
> I could have sworn I have done this before but obviously
> not because I can't get it to work no matter what I try.
>
> I am running a shell script that is suppos
On 7/28/10 6:33 AM, Martin McCormick wrote:
I could have sworn I have done this before but obviously
not because I can't get it to work no matter what I try.
I am running a shell script that is supposed to find
every .zip or .ZIP file in a directory and do an extraction of
the co
On 7/28/10 7:06 AM, Jordon Bedwell wrote:
#!/bin/sh
for MAGFILE in $(ls *\.[zZ][iI][pP])
do
echo "File: $MAGFILE";
done
I would prefer to rely on $() before `` in a bash script.
Sorry, I did that script on OS X, you should switch the SH shebang to
Bash, it's just aliased on OS X but not on
Thank you! What about existing but modified configuration files?
Regards
On 07/27/2010 02:21 PM, Wolodja Wentland wrote:
On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 14:16 +0300, Panayiotis Karabassis wrote:
How to reinstall the configuration files for a package without
running the purge command? (because of d
On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 15:10 +0300, Panayiotis Karabassis wrote:
> Thank you! What about existing but modified configuration files?
IRC it will not replace those.
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On 2010-07-28 14:10 +0200, Panayiotis Karabassis wrote:
> Thank you! What about existing but modified configuration files?
It is currently not possible to reinstall these from the packages, but
the upcoming dpkg 1.15.8 has a "--force-confask" option which will allow
that. See bug #102609¹ for de
Martin McCormick:
>
> ls *.[Zz][Ii][Pp]
Note that 'ls' doesn't see this pattern at all. The pattern is expanded
by the shell to all existing files matching the pattern. This list of
files is then passed to ls. Using 'echo' would yield (almost) the same
result in this case.
> for MAGFILE in
I have done some testing with Debian stable in Virtualbox and I have
to say XFS works as advertised. I did power off the virtual machine
several times when working in Gnome / copying files. And I did power
off the virtual 5 times in a row when booting. Nothing happened. Each
time the virtual machin
Self-reply.
The essence of problem seems to be the stalled Cyrus SASL version in
Debian. Both 2.1.22 in Stable and 2.1.23 in Testing have
"plugins/ntlm.c" code unchanged since 2005.
This piece of code had been patched by CMU team intensively in 2009
only, in version 2.1.24.
So, I still do
Hi,
These are my first days with running Lenny on an Acer Aspire 3613WLCi
and I see temps like: TZS0 70 TZS1 52 but I can't seem to find a utility
to control the fan: I would like to turn in on and see if those temps
change.
Hugo
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Cesar Garcia writes:
> Perhaps, try with this:
>
> for MAGFILE in `ls $MAGDIR/*.[Zz][Ii][Pp]`; do
That worked. Thank you.
As soon as I saw the example, I realized that in the
script, there was no way for it to know where these files were
that I was looking for. Also my thanks to
On 7/28/10 8:19 AM, hugo vanwoerkom wrote:
Hi,
These are my first days with running Lenny on an Acer Aspire 3613WLCi
and I see temps like: TZS0 70 TZS1 52 but I can't seem to find a utility
to control the fan: I would like to turn in on and see if those temps
change.
Hugo
I don't know about
Jordon Bedwell wrote:
On 7/28/10 8:19 AM, hugo vanwoerkom wrote:
Hi,
These are my first days with running Lenny on an Acer Aspire 3613WLCi
and I see temps like: TZS0 70 TZS1 52 but I can't seem to find a utility
to control the fan: I would like to turn in on and see if those temps
change.
Hugo
Dear Gurus,
Hi i have a script in /etc/init.d/ctnscript
with a symlink
in
/etc/rc2.d/S99ctnscript
when i tried to install gpm then i got a series of errors
insserv: Starting ctnscript depends on stop-bootlogd and therefore on system
facility `$all' which can not be true!
repeated over and
On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 08:19:02 -0500, hugo vanwoerkom wrote:
> These are my first days with running Lenny on an Acer Aspire 3613WLCi
> and I see temps like: TZS0 70 TZS1 52 but I can't seem to find a utility
> to control the fan: I would like to turn in on and see if those temps
> change.
I think "
Camaleón wrote:
On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 08:19:02 -0500, hugo vanwoerkom wrote:
These are my first days with running Lenny on an Acer Aspire 3613WLCi
and I see temps like: TZS0 70 TZS1 52 but I can't seem to find a utility
to control the fan: I would like to turn in on and see if those temps
change.
Thank You for Your time and answer, Robert:
> If you know how to convert Mb to bytes, what is your problem?
Rounding that was used to publish the sizes on the web.
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> My apologies for being rude, but someone needed to slap you upside
> the head and bring you to reality.
For the future please note, any your farther talks will be
silently ignored by me.
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Thank You for Your time and answer, Wolodja:
> Using ext4 for /boot is discouraged but you can give it a try. Why do
> you need /boot to be ext4?
Because I have single partition. :)
Well. For now I have tried w/ two - /boot as ext3 and / as ext4 -
nothing happened - I got the into the same situa
Mitchell Laks wrote:
Dear Gurus,
Hi i have a script in /etc/init.d/ctnscript
with a symlink
in
/etc/rc2.d/S99ctnscript
when i tried to install gpm then i got a series of errors
insserv: Starting ctnscript depends on stop-bootlogd and therefore on system
facility `$all' which can not be
hugo vanwoerkom wrote:
Camaleón wrote:
On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 08:19:02 -0500, hugo vanwoerkom wrote:
These are my first days with running Lenny on an Acer Aspire 3613WLCi
and I see temps like: TZS0 70 TZS1 52 but I can't seem to find a utility
to control the fan: I would like to turn in on and se
I have a Debian machine running Unstable acting as a samba server. The
server was installed a few days ago after a reinstall of the OS. The
older installation's samba configs were backed up and restored after
installation.
The Samba shares are accessible if I access them from a Windows 7
cl
On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 09:40:23 -0500, hugo vanwoerkom wrote:
> Camaleón wrote:
>> I think "lm-sensors" includes a "fancontrol" package, but be careful if
>> you want to manually set the fan speed, because this parameter should
>> be automatically adjusted by ACPI and cpufreqd.
>>
>> Ideally, runni
On 28.07.2010 14:42, Jochen Schulz wrote:
Martin McCormick:
ls *.[Zz][Ii][Pp]
Note that 'ls' doesn't see this pattern at all. The pattern is expanded
by the shell to all existing files matching the pattern. This list of
files is then passed to ls. Using 'echo' would yield (almost) the same
re
Camaleón wrote:
On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 09:40:23 -0500, hugo vanwoerkom wrote:
Camaleón wrote:
I think "lm-sensors" includes a "fancontrol" package, but be careful if
you want to manually set the fan speed, because this parameter should
be automatically adjusted by ACPI and cpufreqd.
Ideally, r
On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 10:43 AM, Sthu Deus wrote:
> Thank You for Your time and answer, Wolodja:
>
>> Using ext4 for /boot is discouraged but you can give it a try. Why do
>> you need /boot to be ext4?
>
> Because I have single partition. :)
>
> Well. For now I have tried w/ two - /boot as ext3 a
Paul E Condon put forth on 7/27/2010 8:53 PM:
> Your original post in this thread addressed a quite disfunctional
> attitude of OP, and IMHO, was correct but somewhat harshly worded.
> In truth, he simply cannot have everything he wants all at the
> same time. You should have left it at that, IMH
On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 10:41:52 -0500, hugo vanwoerkom wrote:
> Camaleón wrote:
(...)
>> I would try first to get an accurate temperature measure for the CPU
>> (69° C is a bit high, even for a laptop, but not critical -that depends
>> on the microprocessor type-). Are you able to get these values
On 20100728_082732, Martin McCormick wrote:
> Cesar Garcia writes:
> > Perhaps, try with this:
> >
> > for MAGFILE in `ls $MAGDIR/*.[Zz][Ii][Pp]`; do
It probably doesn't really matter in practice, but this will
pick up also files that match $MAGDIR/*.zIp , etc. (mixed case)
To avoid getting the
> for MAGFILE in `ls *.[Zz][Ii][Pp] $MAGDIR/`; do
> #lots of other stuff
> done
As others noted, the ls command is superfluous and possibly harmful
here.
One more thing you can do is case-insensitive pathname expansion:
shopt -s nocaseglob
for MAGFILE in $MAGDIR/*.zip
do
#lots of other
Camaleón wrote:
On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 10:41:52 -0500, hugo vanwoerkom wrote:
Camaleón wrote:
(...)
I would try first to get an accurate temperature measure for the CPU
(69° C is a bit high, even for a laptop, but not critical -that depends
on the microprocessor type-). Are you able to get the
> for MAGFILE in $MAGDIR/*.zip
Don't forget the double quotes around variable references. It's better
to always do that by default than to fix it afterwards (either because
you feed it paths with whitespace in them yourself at some point or
because someone else is trying to close the safety holes
>> On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 17:53:40 +0100, AG wrote:
A> I'm facing a bit of a delicate issue: I have created an account on my
A> machine for someone staying with us, and I have strong suspicions that
A> he is engaging in on-line behaviour that he is not supposed to be doing.
A> Can anyone recommend a
>> On 28.07.2010 14:42, Jochen Schulz wrote:
J> I think you meant to write
J> for MAGFILE in `ls $MAGDIR/*.[Zz][Ii][Pp]`
J> Another hint: you don't need 'ls' for your case at all.
I'd recommend keeping the "ls". Try your script when MAGDIR doesn't
have any zipfiles, and MAGFILE will ho
On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 5:11 PM, H.S. wrote:
>
> I have a Debian machine running Unstable acting as a samba server. The
> server was installed a few days ago after a reinstall of the OS. The older
> installation's samba configs were backed up and restored after installation.
>
> The Samba shares a
First things first, make an image of the hard disk with dd and work on
that. That way you don't have to experiment with your only available
copy.
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sudo mount -t cifs ///Share ~/mnt/Share
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On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 14:46:29 +0200 Aniruddha
wrote:
> I have done some testing with Debian stable in Virtualbox and I have
> to say XFS works as advertised. I did power off the virtual machine
> several times when working in Gnome / copying files. And I did power
> off the virtual 5 times in a row
On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 9:09 PM, Perry E. Metzger wrote:
> On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 14:46:29 +0200 Aniruddha
> wrote:
>> I have done some testing with Debian stable in Virtualbox and I have
>> to say XFS works as advertised. I did power off the virtual machine
>> several times when working in Gnome /
Is is possible to get amaya_wx-11.3.1-1_amd64.deb to run on sid?
I've installed it with dpkg but get the following error message:
~$ amaya
/usr/lib/Amaya/wx/bin/amaya_bin: error while loading shared libraries:
libraptor.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory to
I installe
On 7/28/10 2:46 PM, Charles Kroeger wrote:
Is is possible to get amaya_wx-11.3.1-1_amd64.deb to run on sid?
I've installed it with dpkg but get the following error message:
~$ amaya
/usr/lib/Amaya/wx/bin/amaya_bin: error while loading shared libraries:
libraptor.so.1: cannot open shared object f
I'm working with something that will go in people's offices. I was seriously
considering using some Soekris boxes (http://soekris.com). The problem is the
upper limit of RAM is 512 MB. I'd like to get something a little faster than
their systems and with more memory, but the memory would take
On 28/07/10 02:51 PM, Aniruddha wrote:
I encountered the same problem a few weeks ago. Unfortunately I don't
have the correct command in bash_history anymore. Can you try:
sudo mount -t cifs -o user=,password=
///Share ~/mnt/Share
sudo mount -t cifs -o user=guest //r/Share ~/mnt/Share
Whic
On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 16:30:41 -0400, H.S. wrote:
> On 28/07/10 02:51 PM, Aniruddha wrote:
>>
>> I encountered the same problem a few weeks ago. Unfortunately I don't
>> have the correct command in bash_history anymore. Can you try:
>>
>> sudo mount -t cifs -o user=,password=
>> ///Share ~/mnt/Sha
On Wed, 28 Jul 2010, Hal Vaughan writes:
> I'm working with something that will go in people's offices. I was
> seriously considering using some Soekris boxes (http://soekris.com).
> The problem is the upper limit of RAM is 512 MB. I'd like to get
> something a little faster than their systems and
Op 28-07-10 21:34, Aniruddha schreef:
> Agreed, it was hardly a double-blind randomized trial :) On a more
> serious note: off course these tests don't prove anything. On the
> other hand I have heard so many time that XFS can't handle a single
> power failure without data corruption that I wanted
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA256
On 07/28/2010 04:11 PM, Jordon Bedwell wrote:
>
> find / |grep libraptor
>
> if you don't come up with it in lib then which ever one is there that
> says "1" symlink libraptor.so.1 to it. Then go on about your way, or
> you can download the source
On 7/28/10 4:03 PM, Jordan Metzmeier wrote:
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA256
On 07/28/2010 04:11 PM, Jordon Bedwell wrote:
find / |grep libraptor
if you don't come up with it in lib then which ever one is there that
says "1" symlink libraptor.so.1 to it. Then go on about your
On 2010-07-28 21:46 +0200, Charles Kroeger wrote:
> Is is possible to get amaya_wx-11.3.1-1_amd64.deb to run on sid?
If you're using the amd64 architecture, most probably yes. Your
X-Newsreader header suggests that you run i386, however.
> I've installed it with dpkg but get the following error
On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 07:13:54PM +0700, Sthu Deus wrote:
> Thank You for Your time and answer, Robert:
>
> > If you know how to convert Mb to bytes, what is your problem?
>
> Rounding that was used to publish the sizes on the web.
Interesting. Wasn't aware of that.
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On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 09:43:59PM +0700, Sthu Deus wrote:
> Thank You for Your time and answer, Wolodja:
>
> > Using ext4 for /boot is discouraged but you can give it a try. Why do
> > you need /boot to be ext4?
>
> Because I have single partition. :)
What was the reason for that? The usual pla
On 28.07.2010 20:05, Karl Vogel wrote:
On 28.07.2010 14:42, Jochen Schulz wrote:
J> I think you meant to write
J> for MAGFILE in `ls $MAGDIR/*.[Zz][Ii][Pp]`
J> Another hint: you don't need 'ls' for your case at all.
I'd recommend keeping the "ls". Try your script when MAGDIR doesn'
On 7/28/10 4:40 PM, Robert Holtzman wrote:
On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 09:43:59PM +0700, Sthu Deus wrote:
Thank You for Your time and answer, Wolodja:
Using ext4 for /boot is discouraged but you can give it a try. Why do
you need /boot to be ext4?
Because I have single partition. :)
What was t
All,
debian-505-i386-xfce+lxde-cd-1 jewel case insert available, in odt and
pdf formats.
I made made it for myself, and uploaded it in case anyone else might
find it useful. (For me, the utility comes in having the SHA-512
checksum and dd(1) block count printed out.)
The text reads:
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On 28/07/10 04:45 PM, Camaleón wrote:
On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 16:30:41 -0400, H.S. wrote:
IP address instead of the hostname doesn't make any difference.
Strangely, I am not getting any errors in the logs on the samba server.
Then you can increase the log level verbosity in "smb.conf":
log level
>> On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 23:58:11 +0200,
>> Mart Frauenlob said:
M> One might be better of with some like this:
M> find /DIR -regextype posix-egrep -regex '.*\.(zip|ZIP)' -exec \
M> some_command {} +
If the filelist is potentially too big for the max argument list on the
system, I wou
vogelke+deb...@pobox.com (Karl Vogel) writes:
>>> On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 23:58:11 +0200,
>>> Mart Frauenlob said:
>M> One might be better of with some like this:
>M> find /DIR -regextype posix-egrep -regex '.*\.(zip|ZIP)' -exec \
>M> some_command {} +
> If the filelist is potentially too
On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 8:32 PM, H.S. wrote:
> On 28/07/10 04:45 PM, Camaleón wrote:
>> On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 16:30:41 -0400, H.S. wrote:
>>>
>>> IP address instead of the hostname doesn't make any difference.
>>> Strangely, I am not getting any errors in the logs on the samba server.
>>
>> Then you
On 28/07/10 09:12 PM, Tom H wrote:
On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 8:32 PM, H.S. wrote:
On 28/07/10 04:45 PM, Camaleón wrote:
On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 16:30:41 -0400, H.S. wrote:
IP address instead of the hostname doesn't make any difference.
Strangely, I am not getting any errors in the logs on the samb
>> On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 01:04:27 -,
>> Cameron Hutchison said:
C>find $MAGDIR -iname '*.zip' -print0 | xargs -0 some-command
C> -iname matches names case insensitively. Since you then dont need grep,
C> you also dont need tr0.
I need to think before posting. I didn't mention that I h
Try making a symlink to the .so file needed by amaying to the pre-existent .so
file installed by libraptor.
Try searching for the missing file on the end of the page
http://packages.debian.org
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I have tried the following :
deb http://www.lamaresh.net/apt squeeze main
but remain at :
1.1.42
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On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 9:37 PM, H.S. wrote:
> On 28/07/10 09:12 PM, Tom H wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 8:32 PM, H.S. wrote:
>>>
>>> On 28/07/10 04:45 PM, Camaleón wrote:
On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 16:30:41 -0400, H.S. wrote:
>
> IP address instead of the hostname doesn't make
Thank you both!
Regards,
Panayiotis
On 07/28/2010 03:32 PM, Sven Joachim wrote:
On 2010-07-28 14:10 +0200, Panayiotis Karabassis wrote:
Thank you! What about existing but modified configuration files?
It is currently not possible to reinstall these from the packages, but
the up
Greetings,
According to the spec sheet on the Atom N450 it has a single core,
though it does support two threads. However, linuxinfo (replaces
cpuinfo I suppose) says two unknown processors.
r...@hpm210:/home/arthur/Misc/Linux/2.6.34-1# linuxinfo
Linux HPm210 2.6.32-5-686 #1 SMP Tue Jun 1 04:59:4
On Wednesday 28 July 2010 19:34:44 Shaun Glass wrote:
> Hello All,
>
> I am looking a repository where I can get Wine 1.2 for the version of
> Debian mentioned above.
>
> I have tried the following :
>
> deb http://www.lamaresh.net/apt squeeze main
>
> but remain at :
>
> 1.1.42
>
> Regards
I
On 28/07/10 11:46 PM, Tom H wrote:
On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 9:37 PM, H.S. wrote:
No. But I tried that name as well which I was using from the Windows box.
Here is what I get with the command you mentioned:
$ smbclient -L -I ///Share -U hs
Enter hs's password:
Connection to -I failed (Error NT
On Tuesday 27 July 2010 15:09:08 Stan Hoeppner wrote:
> Volkan YAZICI put forth on 7/27/2010 2:04 PM:
> > unplugged machine. At boot, I dropped to fsck command line. At command
>
> Were you forced to the command line or did you manually select to go to the
> command line? It sounds like you chose
Jordon Bedwell said:
you can download the source to amaya and compile it against your
libraptor install (which is what I recommend personally).
Thanks for this suggestion. Would you mind describing the steps in detail. If
it solves my problem I would add these commands to my personal growing Deb
On Wednesday 28 July 2010 13:05:22 Karl Vogel wrote:
> >> On 28.07.2010 14:42, Jochen Schulz wrote:
> J> I think you meant to write
> J> for MAGFILE in `ls $MAGDIR/*.[Zz][Ii][Pp]`
> J> Another hint: you don't need 'ls' for your case at all.
>
>I'd recommend keeping the "ls".
Then, you wou
On Wednesday 28 July 2010 21:37:44 Karl Vogel wrote:
> >> On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 01:04:27 -,
>
> >> Cameron Hutchison said:
> C>find $MAGDIR -iname '*.zip' -print0 | xargs -0 some-command
> C> -iname matches names case insensitively. Since you then dont need grep,
> C> you also dont need tr0
On Mi, 28 iul 10, 16:10:38, Jordon Bedwell wrote:
> On 7/28/10 4:03 PM, Jordan Metzmeier wrote:
> >On 07/28/2010 04:11 PM, Jordon Bedwell wrote:
> >>
> >>find / |grep libraptor
> >
> >Perhaps you wanted find's -name option? find / -name 'libraptor*'
>
> I personally prefer to grep over find, but t
Hello, all. We are in quite a pickle tonight - our CUPS printing is
complete broken after an upgrade. The cups error_log is filled with
"Bad request line "VCB" from 172.x.x.1!' Printers do not appear in
Gnome or OpenOffice and, even though they appear in KDE, they are
unavailable.
All clients a
On Jo, 29 iul 10, 08:41:57, Andrei Popescu wrote:
> On Mi, 28 iul 10, 16:10:38, Jordon Bedwell wrote:
> > On 7/28/10 4:03 PM, Jordan Metzmeier wrote:
> > >On 07/28/2010 04:11 PM, Jordon Bedwell wrote:
> > >>
> > >>find / |grep libraptor
> > >
> > >Perhaps you wanted find's -name option? find / -nam
On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 01:46:40 -0400, John A. Sullivan III wrote:
> Hello, all. We are in quite a pickle tonight - our CUPS printing is
> complete broken after an upgrade. The cups error_log is filled with
> "Bad request line "VCB" from 172.x.x.1!' Printers do not appear in
> Gnome or OpenOffice
On 29 July 2010 01:43, Eric De Mund wrote:
> debian-505-i386-xfce+lxde-cd-1 jewel case insert available, in odt and
> pdf formats.
Nice!
> The text reads:
[...]
> | 201000626-18:12 |
I think you've got an extra zero.
Take care,
Martin
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On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 06:03:37PM -0500, Jordon Bedwell wrote:
> On 7/28/10 4:40 PM, Robert Holtzman wrote:
> >
> >What was the reason for that? The usual plan is to put /home, at least,
> >on a separate partition.
> >
>
> The *usual* plan is to put it on a separate drive (but since debian
> can'
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