Re: mass conversion from ogg to mp3

2009-05-27 Thread Sjoerd Hardeman
ZephyrQ wrote: Stefan Monnier wrote: I have a large number of music files (17 gig worth...yes, for all prying eyes they are legal...) that I find I need to convert from .ogg to .mp3. Not that I want to...but between a teenager with an iphone and being saddled with cell phone that won't play

Re: Luks encrypted partition gets identified as ntfs

2009-05-27 Thread Γιώργος Πάλλας
Aron wrote: About 4 years of research I have in there so far got that gut feeling it's going up in smokes. Does that imply that you have no backup of your 4 years of research? Done all I could by no luck so looking for help. After you boot your system, try to mount the partition manua

startx and KDE 4.2.2

2009-05-27 Thread GRotfl
Hi all! After upgrade to KDE 4.2.2 I could not start X windows with startx (it complained that startkde in .xinitrc is not there). I have located startkde in package ksmserver, which is both in stable and unstable, but not testing. Also, it is version 3.5.9, not 4.2.2. I have changed sources.li

Re: Debian Linux

2009-05-27 Thread Johannes Wiedersich
Harry Rickards wrote: > Someone definitely needs to make a rtfm.com version, that redirects you > to the appropriate manual page. :D Try that for a start http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=man+rtfm&l=1 8-) Johannes -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "un

Error while connecting to vpn

2009-05-27 Thread a dehqan
In The name Of God I'll be thankfull if you guide , In linux debian lenny when triing to connect pptp.ivacy.com gives this error : [quote]info: Profile "ivacy" saved. info: Profile "ivacy_2" saved. info: Profile "ivacy_2" added. info: Profile "ivacy" saved. info: Profile "ivacy_2" saved. debug: U

Re: Debian Linux

2009-05-27 Thread randall
- Original Message - From: "Johannes Wiedersich" To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 10:28:24 AM GMT +01:00 Amsterdam / Berlin / Bern / Rome / Stockholm / Vienna Subject: Re: Debian Linux Harry Rickards wrote: > Someone definitely needs to make a rtfm.com vers

Re: Second ethernet card seems to cause networking failure?

2009-05-27 Thread Adrian Levi
2009/5/27 Frank Miles : > Sure, can provide more info... > > /etc/network/interfaces : > > auto lo > iface lo inet loopback > > # The primary network interface > auto eth0 > #iface eth0 inet dhcp > iface eth0 inet static >        address xxx.yyy.zzz.32 >        network xxx.yyy.zzz.0 >

Re: Debian Linux

2009-05-27 Thread Harry Rickards
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/27/09 09:35, rand...@songshu.org wrote: > - Original Message - > From: "Johannes Wiedersich" > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 10:28:24 AM GMT +01:00 Amsterdam / Berlin / > Bern / Rome / Stockholm / Vien

Re: Thank you!

2009-05-27 Thread Harry Rickards
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/27/09 04:36, 明�X wrote: > On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 8:44 AM, Olle & Susan Gladso > wrote: >> This may be the wrong list for this subject, but here goes. >> I want to thank the Debian developers and community for all that you do and >> that >> you

Hello!! I'm New

2009-05-27 Thread EQMaker
Hello all. I'm new~ :) I installed Debian on my computer lastnight. This is my first try on linux too. I want became 'linuxer' like all of you... So.. I'd like ask something to all of pioneers in this mail-list (yea.. It's you.. it's true..) How can I make friend with debian? Thanks for your

Re: Debian Linux

2009-05-27 Thread Johannes Wiedersich
rand...@songshu.org wrote: > http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=man+rtfm&l=1 > > love that one, > > but there seems to be another program already for this > http://manpages.songshu.org/manpages/lenny/en/man1/rtfm.1fun.html In fact both are the same 'program'. You could install that man page with 'aptitude

Re: Hello!! I'm New

2009-05-27 Thread 明覺
2009/5/27 EQMaker : > Hello all. I'm new~ :) > > I installed Debian on my computer lastnight. > This is my first try on linux too. > > I want became 'linuxer' like all of you... > So.. I'd like ask something to all of pioneers in this mail-list (yea.. It's > you.. it's true..) > > How can I make fr

Re: Debian Linux

2009-05-27 Thread randall
- Original Message - From: "Johannes Wiedersich" To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 11:02:54 AM GMT +01:00 Amsterdam / Berlin / Bern / Rome / Stockholm / Vienna Subject: Re: Debian Linux rand...@songshu.org wrote: > http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=man+rtfm&l=1 > >

Re: Debian Linux

2009-05-27 Thread Harry Rickards
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/27/09 10:09, rand...@songshu.org wrote: > - Original Message - > From: "Johannes Wiedersich" > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 11:02:54 AM GMT +01:00 Amsterdam / Berlin / > Bern / Rome / Stockholm / Vien

Re: Debian Linux

2009-05-27 Thread Johannes Wiedersich
rand...@songshu.org wrote: > most new users don't now the existence of the automatically installed man > pages. > admittedly i also find it more readable in a browser. Konqueror will display the local man pages when you enter "man:rtfm" in the location bar (provided you have funny-manpages insta

Re: startx and KDE 4.2.2

2009-05-27 Thread thveillon.debian
GRotfl wrote: > Hi all! > > After upgrade to KDE 4.2.2 I could not start X windows with startx (it > complained that startkde in .xinitrc is not there). I have located startkde > in package ksmserver, which is both in stable and unstable, but not testing. > Also, it is version 3.5.9, not 4.2.2.

Re: Debian Linux

2009-05-27 Thread Harry Rickards
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/27/09 10:20, Johannes Wiedersich wrote: > rand...@songshu.org wrote: >> most new users don't now the existence of the automatically installed man >> pages. >> admittedly i also find it more readable in a browser. > > Konqueror will display the

Lenny printing competition -- still open?

2009-05-27 Thread Miguel Obliviemo
I just noticed the "Print to Win" or "Print 2 Win" promotion in the HOWTO directory and I wonder if it is intended that this competition will remain open for the lifetime of the Lenny distribution. Also, is it only open to professional printers, or can anyone enter? Or is Debian a sponsor of the

Re: OT Looking for certain Geode LX Board

2009-05-27 Thread Martin
Hello, I've google around a bit more and found a couple of VIA boards (Segement series) that seem to fit my needs, however I'm hitting a barrier here. The boards I consider (VIA NAS7800, VIA NAS7040) aren't available to customers so if anyone has hints how to get those (mostly) OEM-only boards (or

hi, all, help me with debian installation!!

2009-05-27 Thread Yi Zhao
hi, all: I have a disk which install windows(30G) and debian(30G), but sometimes ago, my debian is broken, so I want to resintall it on the exists partitions(I don't want to create other new partitions), but, when I run the installation program, I can't find the operation to find the exists part

Re: hi, all, help me with debian installation!!

2009-05-27 Thread Thierry Chatelet
On Wednesday 27 May 2009 12:46:20 Yi Zhao wrote: > hi, all: > I have a disk which install windows(30G) and debian(30G), but sometimes > ago, my debian is broken, so I want to resintall it on the exists > partitions(I don't want to create other new partitions), but, when I run > the installation pro

Re: Hello!! I'm New

2009-05-27 Thread Neal Hogan
2009/5/27 EQMaker : > Hello all. I'm new~ :) > > I installed Debian on my computer lastnight. > This is my first try on linux too. > > I want became 'linuxer' like all of you... > So.. I'd like ask something to all of pioneers in this mail-list (yea.. It's > you.. it's true..) > > How can I make fr

Re: Hello!! I'm New

2009-05-27 Thread Bipin Babu
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 5:07 PM, Neal Hogan wrote: > > 2009/5/27 EQMaker : > > Hello all. I'm new~ :) > > > > I installed Debian on my computer lastnight. > > This is my first try on linux too. > > > > I want became 'linuxer' like all of you... > > So.. I'd like ask something to all of pioneers in

Re: Hello!! I'm New

2009-05-27 Thread Bipin Babu
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 6:16 PM, EQMaker wrote: > Dear. Bipin Babu. > > Thanks for your kindness. > Could I have your recommendation about forums for beginners like me? > > With Regards. > Andrei Kim. > > - Original Message - > From: "Bipin Babu" > To: "EQMaker" ; "debian-user" > > Sent

Re: Debian Linux

2009-05-27 Thread Chris Jones
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 05:19:17AM EDT, Harry Rickards wrote: [..] > >> It seems that there are many new users who prefer to read their man > >> pages with their web browser. That's why they are online (and can be > >> found with google). > > most new users don't now the existence of the automat

Skype not working in sid

2009-05-27 Thread Mr. Wang Long
Hi, Skype no longer work after lib32asound2 upgrade to 1.0.20-1. It printed this error message before quit: skype: relocation error: skype: symbol snd_pcm_hw_params_get_channels_min, version ALSA_0.9.0rc4 not defined in file libasound.so.2 with link time reference Downgrade lib32asound2 and libas

Re: Operating system-level virtualization: how to make it?

2009-05-27 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 08:46:49PM +0200, Laurent Guignard wrote: > On Fri, 22 May 2009 18:02:27 +, Sylvain Le Gall wrote: > > On 22-05-2009, Sthu Deus wrote: > > > How I can organize a Operating system-level virtualization on a server > > > for every service I would isolate? > > > > Use a ch

Re: Hello!! I'm New

2009-05-27 Thread Johannes Wiedersich
Bipin Babu wrote: > b. this mailing list follows 'bottom posting' and does not appreciate > 'top posting' Trimming [1], ie. cutting of unneeded content in replies is also generally prefered. As is inline replying [2]. Use common sense to make it as simple as possible to others to read your post.

Re: Luks encrypted partition gets identified as ntfs

2009-05-27 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 06:52:20AM +0100, Aron wrote: > About 4 years of research I have in there so far got that gut feeling > it's going up in smokes. I surely hope you have backups, either not encrypted or encrypted with something else (I use openssl). Doug. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to d

Re: Lenny printing competition -- still open?

2009-05-27 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
In , Miguel Obliviemo wrote: >I just noticed the "Print to Win" or "Print 2 Win" promotion in the >HOWTO directory I have no idea what you are talking about and couldn't find a reference to a similarly named anything on my Lenny/Squeeze system. Please provide a package+pathname or URL. -- Boy

etch pam update not signed

2009-05-27 Thread Tom Vier
Anyone know why these aren't signed (or signed by an unknown key)? I installed the latest keyring. WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated! libpam-runtime libpam0g libpam-modules libpq4 Install these packages without verification [y/N]? -- Tom Vier DSA Key ID 0x15741ECE --

Does the vfat partition need defrag under Gnu/Linux ?

2009-05-27 Thread Hashimoto
Hello, I have an external disk actually using one vfat partition type, so I'm wondering if it's necessary to defrag it since I used to save and remove a lot and large files. Any suggestions ? Thanks, -- Rodrigo Hashimoto

Re: Operating system-level virtualization: how to make it?

2009-05-27 Thread Victor Padro
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 8:40 AM, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: > On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 08:46:49PM +0200, Laurent Guignard wrote: > > On Fri, 22 May 2009 18:02:27 +, Sylvain Le Gall wrote: > > > On 22-05-2009, Sthu Deus wrote: > > > > How I can organize a Operating system-level virtualization on

Re: [pptp-devel] How to config openvpn in debian lenny ?

2009-05-27 Thread a dehqan
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 7:24 PM, a dehqan wrote: > In The Name Of god > > Thank alot for your attentions ;excuse from this mailing list PROPRIETOR, > i was not awar so what is openvpn mailing list ? > > regards dehqan > > > > On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 4:58 PM, Charlie Brady wrote: > >> >> Please st

Re: Debian Linux

2009-05-27 Thread randall
And easier to navigate when they have been converted to html, e.g. http://manpages.courier-mta.org/mansection1.html You should keep in mind that these are likely not current or in sync' with your system. http://manpages.debian.net/ is pretty much in sync i guess. the only "problem with that s

Re: Lenny printing competition -- still open?

2009-05-27 Thread Johannes Wiedersich
Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > In , Miguel Obliviemo > wrote: >> I just noticed the "Print to Win" or "Print 2 Win" promotion in the >> HOWTO directory > > I have no idea what you are talking about and couldn't find a reference to a > similarly named anything on my Lenny/Squeeze system. Please

Re: hi, all, help me with debian installation!!

2009-05-27 Thread Yi Zhao
yes, I do this, but, when I choose this, it tell me this operation will create a new partitions on this disk, I think this will erase my data on my disk, so I choose "go back"   I can't find choose partitions in other operations...     thanks. --- On Wed, 5/27/09, Thierry Chatelet wrote: From

Re: Midori dependencies problem with sid

2009-05-27 Thread Nyizsnyik Ferenc
On Tue, 26 May 2009 12:28:42 -1000 Joel Roth wrote: > Hi debmasters, > > I thought I'd give the Webkit based Midori browser > a try, and ran into a dependency problem. > > I've got libwebkit. > > ii libwebkit-1.0-2 1.1.7-1 > Web content engine library for Gtk+ ii > libweb

Re: Panels in Xfce4 in Squeeze

2009-05-27 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Tue,26.May.09, 03:49:24, Peter Crawford wrote: > > Do you still have it if you restart xfce4? > > No; I put it in > Desktop Menu -> Applications -> Settings -> Session and Startup This shouldn't be necessary. > > I think for some reason the panel crashed and you saved your session > withou

Re: Debian Linux

2009-05-27 Thread Muzer
rand...@songshu.org wrote: And easier to navigate when they have been converted to html, e.g. http://manpages.courier-mta.org/mansection1.html You should keep in mind that these are likely not current or in sync' with your system. http://manpages.debian.net/ is pretty much in sync i guess. th

Re: Debian Linux

2009-05-27 Thread Harry Rickards
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/27/09 11:54, Tony van der Hoff wrote: > Harry Rickards wrote: >> >> On 05/27/09 10:20, Johannes Wiedersich wrote: >>> rand...@songshu.org wrote: most new users don't now the existence of the automatically installed man pages. admit

Re: Lenny printing competition -- still open?

2009-05-27 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
In <4a1d55f7.70...@physik.blm.tu-muenchen.de>, Johannes Wiedersich wrote: >Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: >> In , Miguel >> Obliviemo >> wrote: >>> I just noticed the "Print to Win" or "Print 2 Win" promotion in the >>> HOWTO directory >> >> I have no idea what you are talking about and couldn't fin

Re: hi, all, help me with debian installation!!

2009-05-27 Thread Neal Hogan
(sorry for the duplicate post, Yi. I forgot to send it to the list) On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 10:18 AM, Yi Zhao wrote: > yes, I do this, but, when I choose this, it tell me this operation will > create a new partitions on this disk, I think this will erase my data on my > disk, so I choose "go back

Re: why must emacs depend on sound packages?

2009-05-27 Thread Barclay, Daniel
Chris Jones wrote: > On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 12:04:44PM EDT, Barclay, Daniel wrote: >> Chris Jones wrote: > > [..] > >>> Where the above no longer works for me is when the two action keys >>> do not belong to the same half of the keyboard - such as Ctrl-X >>> Ctrl-P, because I would use my right

Re: Midori dependencies problem with sid

2009-05-27 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
In <20090526222842.ga5...@sprite>, Joel Roth wrote: >I thought I'd give the Webkit based Midori browser >a try, and ran into a dependency problem. > >I've got libwebkit. > >ii libwebkit-1.0-2 1.1.7-1 >ii libwebkit-1.0-common 1.1.7-1 > >What about Midori: ># ap

Re: Debian Linux

2009-05-27 Thread Harry Rickards
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/27/09 16:39, Harry Rickards wrote: > On 05/27/09 11:54, Tony van der Hoff wrote: >> Harry Rickards wrote: >>> On 05/27/09 10:20, Johannes Wiedersich wrote: rand...@songshu.org wrote: > most new users don't now the existence of the automa

Re: Is gnome built on top of twm?

2009-05-27 Thread Barclay, Daniel
Paul E Condon wrote: > ... [gdm] needs a window manager before the user has even logged in. What features of a window manager does it need or use? (I don't use gdm. Does it have multiple windows that the user might need to move around or that the user might want to see decorated?) Daniel --

Re: KDE is now broken (Fwd: Heads-up: KDE4 hitting testing tonight (UTC) )

2009-05-27 Thread lee
On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 10:31:00AM -0500, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > In <20090526142918.gc5...@cat.rubenette.is-a-geek.com>, lee wrote: > >On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 01:17:16PM -0500, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > >> In <20090525163904.gb5...@cat.rubenette.is-a-geek.com>, lee wrote: > >> >On Su

Re: Debian Linux

2009-05-27 Thread Barclay, Daniel
Muzer wrote: > KDE can convert manpages to HTML on-the-fly (just browse to > man:/[()] > (where the <> denotes a required argument, [] an optional argument) Which part of KDE is that? (What is KDE's file/etc. browser?) Daniel -- (Plain text sometimes corrupted to HTML "courtesy" of Microsoft

Re: Second ethernet card seems to cause networking failure?

2009-05-27 Thread Frank Miles
Following up, particularly on Adrian Levi's suggestion to eliminate the gateway spec in /etc/network/interfaces: Thanks, Adrian! Your idea makes sense. Trying it: it changes the routing table exactly as you described, causing my routing table to match yours (excepting, of course, the specific I

Re: KDE is now broken (Fwd: Heads-up: KDE4 hitting testing tonight (UTC) )

2009-05-27 Thread lee
On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 10:46:47AM -0500, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > In <20090526142918.gc5...@cat.rubenette.is-a-geek.com>, lee wrote: > >On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 01:17:16PM -0500, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > >> Use the old software. It might not run on the latest release of Debian, > >>

Re: etch pam update not signed

2009-05-27 Thread Jan Christoph Nordholz
Hi Tom, On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 10:04:23AM -0400, Tom Vier wrote: > Anyone know why these aren't signed (or signed by an unknown key)? I > installed the latest keyring. > > WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated! > libpam-runtime libpam0g libpam-modules libpq4 > Install these p

Re: Debian Linux

2009-05-27 Thread Johannes Wiedersich
Barclay, Daniel wrote: > Muzer wrote: >> KDE can convert manpages to HTML on-the-fly (just browse to >> man:/[()] >> (where the <> denotes a required argument, [] an optional argument) > > Which part of KDE is that? (What is KDE's file/etc. browser?) konqueror Johannes -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, em

Re: hi, all, help me with debian installation!!

2009-05-27 Thread Tim Beauregard
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Yi Zhao wrote: > yes, I do this, but, when I choose this, it tell me this operation will > create a new partitions on this disk, I think this will erase my data on > my disk, so I choose "go back" The way I understand it "create new partition" actuall

Re: KDE is now broken (Fwd: Heads-up: KDE4 hitting testing tonight (UTC) )

2009-05-27 Thread lee
On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 10:53:25AM -0500, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > >Then why do the dependencies require that a mysql server be installed? > > As I understand it: > Because the "embedded" MySQL server is very much still a server. You do > *not* have to start the daemon via the init script

gfs - Error joining the fence group.

2009-05-27 Thread Markus
Running Debian Lenny 64bit on vmware-server 1.0.7 Linux deb64bit-node2 2.6.26-2-amd64 #1 SMP Fri Mar 27 04:02:59 UTC 2009 x86_64 The configuration is adapted from the min-gfs.txt from the debian gfs2-tools but fails with fencing ... ### the result from cman restart: ###

Re: KDE is now broken (Fwd: Heads-up: KDE4 hitting testing tonight (UTC) )

2009-05-27 Thread lee
On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 05:36:09PM +, marc wrote: > lee said: > > > Both of these won't be human readable, plain text files. Try to read > > your current kde configuration in 35 years, or try to read your data > > from the the RDBMS you're currently using in 35 years. You'll find that > > it w

Re: Debian Linux

2009-05-27 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
In <4a1d6a99.9040...@physik.blm.tu-muenchen.de>, Johannes Wiedersich wrote: >Barclay, Daniel wrote: >> Muzer wrote: >>> KDE can convert manpages to HTML on-the-fly (just browse to >>> man:/[()] >>> (where the <> denotes a required argument, [] an optional argument) >> Which part of KDE is that? (W

Re: KDE is now broken (Fwd: Heads-up: KDE4 hitting testing tonight (UTC) )

2009-05-27 Thread lee
On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 10:20:54AM -0500, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > In <20090526144742.gd5...@cat.rubenette.is-a-geek.com>, lee wrote: > >On a side note, what I could use is a Linux version of MS Access. That > >really is one very useful tool, and even that doesn't require an > >RDBMS. > > A

Re: Is gnome built on top of twm?

2009-05-27 Thread Muzer
Foss User wrote: 4. Can someone share the equivalent 'aptitude why' output from a system running KDE? On Kubuntu (which I know isn't debian, but it's all I have at the moment): mu...@muzer-desktop:~$ aptitude why twm i kdm Recommends kdebase | x-session-manager | x-window-manager p twm

Re: Debian Linux

2009-05-27 Thread Muzer
Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: In <4a1d6a99.9040...@physik.blm.tu-muenchen.de>, Johannes Wiedersich wrote: Barclay, Daniel wrote: Muzer wrote: KDE can convert manpages to HTML on-the-fly (just browse to man:/[()] (where the <> denotes a required argument, [] an optional argument)

Re: KDE is now broken (Fwd: Heads-up: KDE4 hitting testing tonight (UTC) )

2009-05-27 Thread lee
On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 10:23:35AM -0500, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > In <20090526144742.gd5...@cat.rubenette.is-a-geek.com>, lee wrote: > >Even if I wanted to run an RDBMS because it's needed for something I > >want, I'd think at least twice about it and look for another solution > >first to k

Re: KDE is now broken (Fwd: Heads-up: KDE4 hitting testing tonight (UTC) )

2009-05-27 Thread Muzer
lee wrote: On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 10:23:35AM -0500, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: In <20090526144742.gd5...@cat.rubenette.is-a-geek.com>, lee wrote: Even if I wanted to run an RDBMS because it's needed for something I want, I'd think at least twice about it and look for another solutio

Re: KDE is now broken (Fwd: Heads-up: KDE4 hitting testing tonight (UTC) )

2009-05-27 Thread lee
On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 11:06:48AM -0500, John Hasler wrote: > lee wrote: > > Even if I wanted to run an RDBMS because it's needed for something I > > want, I'd think at least twice about it and look for another solution > > first to keep the resource usage low: There are some games I want to > > p

Re: Debian Linux

2009-05-27 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 10:19:17AM +0100, Harry Rickards wrote: > I admit that instead of just doing 'man whatever', I pipe it through > less with 'man whatever|less', which lets me get rid of the annoying > text at the bottom, and replacing it with a ':' which I'm more used to > from vi/vim. Isn

Re: KDE is now broken (Fwd: Heads-up: KDE4 hitting testing tonight (UTC) )

2009-05-27 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
In <20090527160338.ge5...@cat.rubenette.is-a-geek.com>, lee wrote: >On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 10:31:00AM -0500, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: >> In <20090526142918.gc5...@cat.rubenette.is-a-geek.com>, lee wrote: >> >On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 01:17:16PM -0500, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: >> >> In <200

Re: Debian Linux

2009-05-27 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 04:30:30PM +0100, Muzer wrote: > KDE can convert manpages to HTML on-the-fly (just browse to > man:/[()] > (where the <> denotes a required argument, [] an optional argument) Try using w3mman as your man program. -- Tzafrir Cohen | tzaf...@jabber.org | VIM is h

Re: Debian Linux

2009-05-27 Thread Harry Rickards
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/27/09 17:57, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: > On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 10:19:17AM +0100, Harry Rickards wrote: > >> I admit that instead of just doing 'man whatever', I pipe it through >> less with 'man whatever|less', which lets me get rid of the annoying

Re: KDE is now broken (Fwd: Heads-up: KDE4 hitting testing tonight (UTC) )

2009-05-27 Thread lee
On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 01:02:56PM -0500, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > I'm sure they would prefer something based on multiple > CSV files (structured, but must mostly human-readable) instead, and I see no > technical roadblocks to that goal. > > Lee, could you do or sponsor such development?

Re: KDE is now broken (Fwd: Heads-up: KDE4 hitting testing tonight (UTC) )

2009-05-27 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
In <20090527161854.gf5...@cat.rubenette.is-a-geek.com>, lee wrote: >On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 10:46:47AM -0500, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: >> In <20090526142918.gc5...@cat.rubenette.is-a-geek.com>, lee wrote: >> >On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 01:17:16PM -0500, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: >> >> Use the

Re: Is gnome built on top of twm?

2009-05-27 Thread Kelly Clowers
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 09:03, Barclay, Daniel wrote: > > Paul E Condon wrote: > > ...  [gdm] needs a window manager before the user has even logged in. > > What features of a window manager does it need or use? > > (I don't use gdm.  Does it have multiple windows that the user might > need to mov

Re: KDE is now broken (Fwd: Heads-up: KDE4 hitting testing tonight (UTC) )

2009-05-27 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
In <20090527163101.gg5...@cat.rubenette.is-a-geek.com>, lee wrote: >On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 10:53:25AM -0500, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: >> >Then why do the dependencies require that a mysql server be installed? >> As I understand it: >> Because the "embedded" MySQL server is very much still a s

Re: KDE is now broken (Fwd: Heads-up: KDE4 hitting testing tonight (UTC) )

2009-05-27 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
In <20090527165037.gj5...@cat.rubenette.is-a-geek.com>, lee wrote: >On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 10:23:35AM -0500, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: >> SQLite doesn't run a daemon at all. While there is an binary that >> functional as a simple "SQL Shell", all the real RDBMS work is handled >> by the share

Re: Is gnome built on top of twm?

2009-05-27 Thread Tony Baldwin
Barclay, Daniel wrote: Paul E Condon wrote: > ... [gdm] needs a window manager before the user has even logged in. What features of a window manager does it need or use? (I don't use gdm. Does it have multiple windows that the user might need to move around or that the user might want to see

Re: KDE is now broken (Fwd: Heads-up: KDE4 hitting testing tonight (UTC) )

2009-05-27 Thread Dotan Cohen
> You might check out the database component of KOffice 2 (still in beta, > IIRC).  It is supposed to be a bit friendlier than the OO.o database > component and should, by default, use an SQLite database embedded in the > document. Kexi hasn't made it into Koffice 2.0. We are still hopeful for Kof

Re: KDE is now broken (Fwd: Heads-up: KDE4 hitting testing tonight (UTC) )

2009-05-27 Thread Dotan Cohen
>> Find your local LUG and ask around.  I can virtually guarantee that there >> someone with a storage unit full of old hardware they are keeping for some >> reason.  Even better if you have a local FreeGeek. > > Who would keep all the old hardware? And for what? And it's nothing > you could rely o

Re: KDE is now broken (Fwd: Heads-up: KDE4 hitting testing tonight (UTC) )

2009-05-27 Thread lee
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 09:21:15PM +0300, Dotan Cohen wrote: > > How do you maintain 15 or 30 year old hardware? > > > > Cooling, circuit breakers, relaxed duty cycle. And prayer, if you're into > that. If you want to keep it running all the time ... Even if you don't, you might have a problem w

getprocid C call

2009-05-27 Thread Christian Jutras
I have tried to find the *getprocid()* in Debian and could not find it, nor any equivalent. The *getproid()* function call is a standard ANSI C, is there any reason for Debian (and all other Linux I looked in) not to implement this function. The Debian I'm using is based on Linux 2.6.22.18.

dhcpd

2009-05-27 Thread pch0317
Hello Can I use two "range" entry in dhcpd.conf? For example: - ddns-update-style none; option domain-name "dom.org"; option domain-name-servers 192.168.0.2, 192.168.0.3; default-lease-time 4; max-lease-t

Re: dhcpd

2009-05-27 Thread Steve Kemp
On Wed May 27, 2009 at 21:21:07 +0200, pch0317 wrote: > Can I use two "range" entry in dhcpd.conf? What happened when you tried it? > or can I use two "range" in "pool" bracket? What happened when you tried it? Seriously the time it takes to test this has got to be less than the time it

Re: dhcpd

2009-05-27 Thread pch0317
Steve Kemp wrote: On Wed May 27, 2009 at 21:21:07 +0200, pch0317 wrote: Can I use two "range" entry in dhcpd.conf? What happened when you tried it? or can I use two "range" in "pool" bracket? What happened when you tried it? Seriously the time it takes to test this

Re: startx and KDE 4.2.2

2009-05-27 Thread GRotfl
> kdebase-workspace-bin: /usr/bin/startkde > > it's in "kdebase-workspace-bin", available in Squeeze. Hmmm. I was sure it was not there. I have used search on packages.debian.org, not apt-file, but still... My mistake. :) Thank you very much for providing the solution! I have fixed the system

CONFIG_NF_CT_ACCT is deprecated and will be removed soon

2009-05-27 Thread jidanni
Whenever I connect my modem, I see CONFIG_NF_CT_ACCT is deprecated and will be removed soon. Please use nf_conntrack.acct=1 kernel paramater, acct=1 nf_conntrack module option or sysctl net.netfilter.nf_conntrack_acct=1 to enable it. I filed http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=526521

Digital Picture-Frame

2009-05-27 Thread David Baron
These are the latest fad. Comes with USB connector and a windows program (which wine will not run). Connecting the USB yields the usual vfat file system. It mounts read-only-- left to it own devices, KDE will mount it in /media/disk. How might I use this contraption. Maybe (maybe not), an apprio

Re: Digital Picture-Frame

2009-05-27 Thread Muzer
David Baron wrote: These are the latest fad. Comes with USB connector and a windows program (which wine will not run). Connecting the USB yields the usual vfat file system. It mounts read-only-- left to it own devices, KDE will mount it in /media/disk. How might I use this contraption. Maybe (

Re: KDE is now broken (Fwd: Heads-up: KDE4 hitting testing tonight (UTC) )

2009-05-27 Thread lee
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 12:01:08PM -0500, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > So, yes, you did say that. You just didn't use those words, which is why > they weren't a quote. (Notice the lack of quotation marks.) Anyone reading > this message can follow the exact reasoning I used to get to that >

Re: KDE is now broken (Fwd: Heads-up: KDE4 hitting testing tonight (UTC) )

2009-05-27 Thread lee
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 12:03:29PM -0500, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > >> Older releases are maintained in the archive > >For 30 years or more? > > From what I understand, that is the plan. The archive currently goes back > to the first release of Debian. It may be planned to do that, but th

Re: KDE is now broken (Fwd: Heads-up: KDE4 hitting testing tonight (UTC) )

2009-05-27 Thread lee
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 12:10:54PM -0500, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > >It's > >something hidden from the user instead of telling them about > >it. That's never a good idea. > > Actually, according to actual HCI studies it is often better to hide things > from a user instead of telling them ab

Re: getprocid C call

2009-05-27 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
In , Christian Jutras wrote: >I have tried to find the *getprocid()* in Debian and could not find it, > nor any equivalent. The *getproid()* function call is a standard ANSI C, Don't make claims you can't back up. I just happen to have my copy of "ISO/IEC 9899:1999(E) -- Programming Languages

Re: KDE is now broken (Fwd: Heads-up: KDE4 hitting testing tonight (UTC) )

2009-05-27 Thread lee
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 09:11:38PM +0300, Dotan Cohen wrote: > > You might check out the database component of KOffice 2 (still in beta, > > IIRC).  It is supposed to be a bit friendlier than the OO.o database > > component and should, by default, use an SQLite database embedded in the > > document

Re: getprocid C call

2009-05-27 Thread Glyn Astill
I think you're after getpid() Last time I checked it was in unistd.h --- On Wed, 27/5/09, Christian Jutras wrote: > From: Christian Jutras > Subject: getprocid C call > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Date: Wednesday, 27 May, 2009, 7:36 PM >   > I have tried to find the getprocid() > in D

Re: KDE is now broken (Fwd: Heads-up: KDE4 hitting testing tonight (UTC) )

2009-05-27 Thread lee
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 05:54:31PM +0100, Muzer wrote: > lee wrote: >> Still it wants to install the full mysql server --- and doesn't that >> package automatically start the server, even if it's then not used by >> kde? Not that I couldn't prevent that, but they could make a package >> that only i

Re: Questions regarding bash and sh.

2009-05-27 Thread S. Fishpaste
On Sun, 24 May 2009 10:43:36 -0300, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI in gmane.linux.debian.user wrote: > Tony Baldwin wrote: >> You would think, icedove being the brainchild of the debian movement, >> that it would include this option for users on the debian lists. >> Não faz sentido... >> > > Even if Deb

Re: KDE is now broken (Fwd: Heads-up: KDE4 hitting testing tonight (UTC) )

2009-05-27 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
In <20090527205036.gn5...@cat.rubenette.is-a-geek.com>, lee wrote: >On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 12:01:08PM -0500, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: >> So, yes, you did say that. You just didn't use those words, which is >> why they weren't a quote. (Notice the lack of quotation marks.) Anyone >> reading

Re: KDE is now broken (Fwd: Heads-up: KDE4 hitting testing tonight (UTC) )

2009-05-27 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
In <20090527205142.go5...@cat.rubenette.is-a-geek.com>, lee wrote: >On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 12:03:29PM -0500, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: >> >> Older releases are maintained in the archive >> >For 30 years or more? >> From what I understand, that is the plan. The archive currently goes >> back t

Re: KDE is now broken (Fwd: Heads-up: KDE4 hitting testing tonight (UTC) )

2009-05-27 Thread H.S.
lee wrote: > On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 12:01:08PM -0500, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: >> So, yes, you did say that. You just didn't use those words, which is why >> they weren't a quote. (Notice the lack of quotation marks.) Anyone reading >> this message can follow the exact reasoning I used t

Re: Debian Linux

2009-05-27 Thread Carl Johnson
Johannes Wiedersich writes: > rand...@songshu.org wrote: >> most new users don't now the existence of the automatically installed man >> pages. >> admittedly i also find it more readable in a browser. > > Konqueror will display the local man pages when you enter "man:rtfm" in > the location bar

Re: KDE is now broken (Fwd: Heads-up: KDE4 hitting testing tonight (UTC) )

2009-05-27 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
In <20090527205951.gp5...@cat.rubenette.is-a-geek.com>, lee wrote: >On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 12:10:54PM -0500, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: >> >It's >> >something hidden from the user instead of telling them about >> >it. That's never a good idea. >> >> Actually, according to actual HCI studies it

Re: KDE is now broken (Fwd: Heads-up: KDE4 hitting testing tonight (UTC) )

2009-05-27 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
In <20090527210120.gq5...@cat.rubenette.is-a-geek.com>, lee wrote: >On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 09:11:38PM +0300, Dotan Cohen wrote: >> > You might check out the database component of KOffice 2. >> > It is supposed to be a bit friendlier than the OO.o >> > database component and should, by default, use

Re: Xen Host Virtual Console missing

2009-05-27 Thread Tim Dobson
Tim Dobson wrote: Hi Steve, Steve Kemp wrote: There are two issues that might be occuring: 1. You don't have getty listening on the serial console of the guest. Update /etc/inittab to enable it. 2. You do have getty running but you're using the wrong thing. Try using "hvc0"

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