Re: [Debian-User] Re: More on Network Install

2007-02-16 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Fri, 16 Feb 2007 13:42:18 -0700 Admin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > But everyone seems to get distracted about me wanting a local LAN > mirror of source and binanry. Granted that a dial up connection and Because this is the most impractical way to get Debian. And even if you do download al

Re: Stupid Noob Question: Surfing the 'Testing' edge

2007-02-16 Thread Chris Lale
Chris Lale wrote: Nigel Henry wrote: On Wednesday 14 February 2007 17:36, Michael S. Peek wrote: [...] Personally, if you have sufficient harddrive space, I'd keep your current Etch install pointing to Etch in /etc/apt/sources.list. then I would install another instance of Etch. I'd keep thi

Re: Debian 3.1r4 question

2007-02-16 Thread Joe Vender
On Friday 16 February 2007 12:50, Alan Ianson wrote: ... > > They are the full install cd's. The only change since day one is that these > images contain the fixes from security.debian.org or other important fixes, > otherwise they are the same as the original 3.1 release. It gives you an > install

Re: Install Debian testing distribution

2007-02-16 Thread Chris Lale
Michael M. wrote: [...] Basically, you need to think carefully about where you want what data, or you may find yourself rebooting multiple times throughout the day because such-and-such a file that you need is in a place where you can't get to it or can't edit it from where you happen to be.

Re: Debian 3.1r4 question

2007-02-16 Thread Joe Vender
On Friday 16 February 2007 12:17, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: ... > They 3.1r4 CDs are full operating system CDs. > > Regards, > > -Roberto Thanks Roberto. Joe -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: What changed permissions of /tmp ?

2007-02-16 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Fri, Feb 16, 2007 at 08:31:40AM +0100, Robert Epprecht wrote: > This morning I had a bad surprize on my sarge system: X did not start > any more. After some time I've found the culprit: something had changed > permission of /tmp to drwxr-xr-x. > > I have no idea what could be the cause of this

Re: Stupid Noob Question: Surfing the 'Testing' edge

2007-02-16 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Chris Lale wrote: > Chris Lale wrote: >> Nigel Henry wrote: >>> On Wednesday 14 February 2007 17:36, Michael S. Peek wrote: >>> [...] >>> Personally, if you have sufficient harddrive space, I'd keep your >>> current Etch install pointing to Etch in /

Re: Woody on 486 problem

2007-02-16 Thread Mike McCarty
Ron Johnson wrote: On 02/16/07 14:45, Mike McCarty wrote: Why not install Linux and dosemu? On a machine with 16MB? It fills a need I have as is. It would let you run multiple DOS sessions. I repeat: It fills a need I have as is. I'd need to put more disc on it, for one thing. OS/2 is

dumb question about multi-core processors...

2007-02-16 Thread Michael Fothergill
Dear Debianists, I read an article: http://www.newsfactor.com/story.xhtml?story_id=032003A1JK8W It says that Intel has made a chip with 80 processors on it that it says is a teraflops device and only uses a low power consumption. But the article suggests that it is tough to write an OS to t

It's a simple question....

2007-02-16 Thread Justin Hartman
In the past few months that I've used Debian I've now successfully managed to install unstable on an Apple iBook G4, Apple mac mini (both PowerPC) and Intel Celeron PC. I've also installed testing on a server that I run which is powered by Intel P4 chips. That's now 4 machines without many proble

Re: Stupid Noob Question: Surfing the 'Testing' edge

2007-02-16 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Fri, 16 Feb 2007 22:52:07 +0100 Joe Hart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have a feeling this is likely to start a debate. Be that as it > may, I set my KDE to select on one click and activate on two. > However, if I run konqueror as root, then I get the single click > activation again. Oh wel

Re: Woody on 486 problem

2007-02-16 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/16/07 15:55, Mike McCarty wrote: > Ron Johnson wrote: >> On 02/16/07 14:45, Mike McCarty wrote: >> Why not install Linux and dosemu? >>> >>> On a machine with 16MB? It fills a need I have as is. >> >> It would let you run multiple DOS s

Re: Woody on 486 problem

2007-02-16 Thread Mike McCarty
Ron Johnson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/16/07 14:45, Mike McCarty wrote: DSL and Slackware aren't that large, are they? Especially with a 2.4 kernel. [QUOTE MODE ON] Slackware Linux doesn't require an extremely powerful system to run (though having one is qu

Help! Corrupted filesystem

2007-02-16 Thread Elmer E. Dow
Greetings: I'm running an IBM R40 laptop with three systems: Debian Sarge (which I use primarily), Knopix 3.4 hd install, and WinXP. This morning I booted to Knoppix to look at some bookmarks on that system. I forgot to unplug the PCMCIA card modem, so it stopped there at boot. I unplugged it

Re: [Debian-User] Re: More on Network Install

2007-02-16 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Fri, Feb 16, 2007 at 01:42:18PM -0700, Admin wrote: > Andrei Popescu > > Thanks for your reply. Hope you don't have to snip too much. My yet > outstanding question is the POOL directory. I think the POOL directory > contains 'sarge' which would be the latest official release. But I am > not

Re: dumb question about multi-core processors...

2007-02-16 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/16/07 15:58, Michael Fothergill wrote: > Dear Debianists, > > I read an article: > > > http://www.newsfactor.com/story.xhtml?story_id=032003A1JK8W > > It says that Intel has made a chip with 80 processors on it that it says > is a teraflops d

Re: Woody on 486 problem

2007-02-16 Thread Mike McCarty
Ron Johnson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/16/07 15:55, Mike McCarty wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: On 02/16/07 14:45, Mike McCarty wrote: Why not install Linux and dosemu? On a machine with 16MB? It fills a need I have as is. It would let you run multiple DOS s

Re: Woody on 486 problem

2007-02-16 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/16/07 16:22, Mike McCarty wrote: > Ron Johnson wrote: >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> On 02/16/07 14:45, Mike McCarty wrote: >> >> >> DSL and Slackware aren't that large, are they? Especially with a >> 2.4 kernel. > >

Re: Woody on 486 problem

2007-02-16 Thread Mike McCarty
Ron Johnson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/16/07 16:22, Mike McCarty wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/16/07 14:45, Mike McCarty wrote: DSL and Slackware aren't that large, are they? Especially with a 2.4 kernel. [

Re: Changing public IP Address

2007-02-16 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Fri, Feb 16, 2007 at 01:43:13PM -0700, Travis Crook wrote: > the old address traffic > 3) Create new DNS records for all domains that I host to point to the > new IP address > 4) Pray it all works! > Immediately lower the TTL for all domains that are hosted on your server! If you don't, it cou

Re: Woody on 486 problem

2007-02-16 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/16/07 16:43, Mike McCarty wrote: > Ron Johnson wrote: >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> On 02/16/07 15:55, Mike McCarty wrote: >> >>> Ron Johnson wrote: >>> On 02/16/07 14:45, Mike McCarty wrote: >> Why

Re: Woody on 486 problem

2007-02-16 Thread Mike McCarty
Ron Johnson wrote: You really aren't a geek, are you? I forgot to mention another use for that machine: I read the IR pulses from remote controls and figure out the protocols they use. For that, I need microsecond level timing resolution, which I can get with MSDOS, but I doubt that Linux can

Re: Now working... gdm??? Re: Couldn't load XKB keymap... Can't switch to terminal mode

2007-02-16 Thread cga2000
On Thu, Feb 15, 2007 at 01:21:21PM EST, Florian Kulzer wrote: > On Wed, Feb 14, 2007 at 22:18:51 -0800, Kenward Vaughan wrote: > > [...] > > > I started up gdm to give myself choices on sessions (to test fully > > whether this was a problem across the board with WM's) and found things > > working

Re: Woody on 486 problem

2007-02-16 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/16/07 16:52, Mike McCarty wrote: > Ron Johnson wrote: >> On 02/16/07 16:22, Mike McCarty wrote: >>> Ron Johnson wrote: On 02/16/07 14:45, Mike McCarty wrote: [snip] >>> >>> Adding a few hundred megabytes of disc is not appealing to me, >> >>

Re: Woody on 486 problem

2007-02-16 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/16/07 17:14, Mike McCarty wrote: > Ron Johnson wrote: >> >> You really aren't a geek, are you? > > I forgot to mention another use for that machine: > I read the IR pulses from remote controls and figure out > the protocols they use. For that, I

multicore gizmos

2007-02-16 Thread pinniped
'Multicore' processors are pretty new - older machines have always had an enormous number of processors. 80 cores on a single chip would take up most of the silicon wafer. (and will probably have a few defective cores and rather interesting cooling problems) Problems encountered by multiple p

Re: Etch is REALLY fast! :-)

2007-02-16 Thread Wim De Smet
On 2/16/07, Hans du Plooy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ACPI is still a thorn in my side too. I've seen way too many notebooks on which fans simply don't switch on and off reliably, and suspend works but resume doesn't - surely there must be a generic way to handle these things? I'm not sure if y

Re: multicore gizmos

2007-02-16 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Sat, Feb 17, 2007 at 12:16:58AM +0100, pinniped wrote: > > 'Multicore' processors are pretty new - older machines have always had an > enormous number of processors. 80 cores on a single chip would take up most > of the silicon wafer. (and will probably have a few defective cores and > rathe

Re: Woody on 486 problem

2007-02-16 Thread Mike McCarty
Ron Johnson wrote: On 02/16/07 16:52, Mike McCarty wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: On 02/16/07 16:22, Mike McCarty wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: On 02/16/07 14:45, Mike McCarty wrote: [snip] Adding a few hundred megabytes of disc is not appealing to me, You really aren't a geek, are you? I

Re: dumb question about multi-core processors...

2007-02-16 Thread Greg Folkert
On Fri, 2007-02-16 at 16:37 -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 02/16/07 15:58, Michael Fothergill wrote: > > Dear Debianists, > > > > I read an article: > > > > > > http://www.newsfactor.com/story.xhtml?story_id=032003A1JK8W > > > > It says that

Re: Woody on 486 problem

2007-02-16 Thread Greg Folkert
On Fri, 2007-02-16 at 16:21 -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 02/16/07 15:55, Mike McCarty wrote: > > Ron Johnson wrote: > >> On 02/16/07 14:45, Mike McCarty wrote: > >> > > Why not install Linux and dosemu? > >>> > >>> On a machine with 1

Re: Changing public IP Address

2007-02-16 Thread Travis Crook
On Fri, 16 Feb 2007 18:09:36 -0500 "Roberto C. Sanchez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, Feb 16, 2007 at 01:43:13PM -0700, Travis Crook wrote: > > the old address traffic > > 3) Create new DNS records for all domains that I host to point to > > the new IP address > > 4) Pray it all works! > >

Re: Changing public IP Address

2007-02-16 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Fri, Feb 16, 2007 at 05:18:00PM -0700, Travis Crook wrote: > > Excellent advice! I had not considered lowering the TTLs. > I speak with the voice of experience :-) Moved my mail server from one IP to another. I forgot to lower the TTL first and so when I shut off port 25 on the old server,

Re: dumb question about multi-core processors...

2007-02-16 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/16/07 17:57, Greg Folkert wrote: > On Fri, 2007-02-16 at 16:37 -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: >> On 02/16/07 15:58, Michael Fothergill wrote: >>> Dear Debianists, [snip] > Well, we have yet to really see. But I suspect once the final cost and > dissat

Re: multicore gizmos

2007-02-16 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/16/07 17:16, pinniped wrote: > > 'Multicore' processors are pretty new - older machines have always had > an enormous number of processors. 80 cores on a single chip would take With "enormous" always changing. Relative to the number of 2x SMP

Re: Now working... gdm??? Re: Couldn't load XKB keymap... Can't switch to terminal mode

2007-02-16 Thread Kenward Vaughan
On Fri, 2007-02-16 at 18:15 -0500, cga2000 wrote: ... > I've pretty much lost track but if the OP absolutely needs a GUI logon > screen .. did he try the alternatives to gdm (xdm, kdm, wdm, ..) ?? > > Otherwise what's wrong with .. > > $ startx $(which window-manager) -- 0: > > ... ? > > Is thi

Re: Woody on 486 problem

2007-02-16 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/16/07 18:13, Greg Folkert wrote: > On Fri, 2007-02-16 at 16:21 -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> On 02/16/07 15:55, Mike McCarty wrote: >>> Ron Johnson wrote: On 02/16/07 14:45, Mike McCarty

Re: Sarge box network connection broken

2007-02-16 Thread Ken Heard
On Fri, 16 Feb 2007 10:12:32 -0500 Andrei Popescu wrote: On Tue, 13 Feb 2007 21:54:24 -0500 Ken Heard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> > >> Ifconfig only reports the loop back IP address. The IP address >>> > >> assigned by the gateway, 192.168.0.114, was not reported by >>> > >> ifconfig, pre

Re: Sarge box network connection broken

2007-02-16 Thread Ken Heard
Kent West wrote: > Ken Heard wrote: >> Kent West wrote: >> What happens when you run "/etc/init.d/networking restart"? >> Returned: >> >> Setting up IP spoofing protection: rp_filter. >> Reconfiguring network interfaces...Failed to bring up eth0. >> done. >> >> Then a

Re: Etch and Sarge X-server failures on two different boxes the same day

2007-02-16 Thread Ken Heard
On Sun 11 Feb 2007 15:56:23 -0500 Ken Heard wrote: > A few weeks ago I installed Etch RC1 on a Toshiba Tecra 8000 P2 laptop. > The installation itself went without hitch, and I set about customizing > it to my taste and installing various applications. For example I > replaced Gnome with KDE, as I

Re: Woody on 486 problem

2007-02-16 Thread Greg Folkert
On Fri, 2007-02-16 at 18:39 -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: [...] > > Warp 3.0 was a really great desktop OS. Yes, it was. I'll completely agree with this. As recently as 2002, I still used OS/2 to operate an IBM 3494 tape robot, with 4 additional storage cabinets, with 4 3490K tape drives in cabinet 1

Sarge to Etch upgrade issues. Reporting wierdness: Any Others??

2007-02-16 Thread John W. Foster
I had Sarge installed on two drives in the same production machine for since it became stable. I use one drive to test new software and configurations. The other drive is used as a web server . I do what I am planning on the test server drive & if I have no problems I reboot & switch to the pro

..mirror size, was: More on Network Install

2007-02-16 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Fri, 16 Feb 2007 18:54:56 +0200, Andrei wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Wed, 14 Feb 2007 14:28:25 -0700 > Archive <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > [huge snip] > > The entire Debian archive is ~205 GB. You do *not* want to download > that over a slow connection. ..fwiw, I have 2 mir

Re: Woody on 486 problem

2007-02-16 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Fri, 16 Feb 2007 16:52:29 -0600, Mike wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Ron Johnson wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > On 02/16/07 16:22, Mike McCarty wrote: > > > > > especially since it can't be done. The smallest disc these > > > days is around 100 G

Configure error: C compiler cannot create executables

2007-02-16 Thread Ken Heard
For over a year, following the instructions of J. Stumpel in his very useful "Dosemu for Dummies", I have been using dosemu in Debian Sarge, which I installed from source. Now that I am using Debian Etch, I want to install the latest dosemu version. After downloading the tarball and unpacking it,

Re: Woody on 486 problem

2007-02-16 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/16/07 21:31, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > On Fri, 16 Feb 2007 16:52:29 -0600, Mike wrote in message > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >> Ron Johnson wrote: >>> >>> On 02/16/07 16:22, Mike McCarty wrote: >>> especially since it can't be done. The smallest

Re: Configure error: C compiler cannot create executables

2007-02-16 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/16/07 21:44, Ken Heard wrote: > For over a year, following the instructions of J. Stumpel in his very > useful "Dosemu for Dummies", I have been using dosemu in Debian Sarge, > which I installed from source. > > Now that I am using Debian Etch,

Re: Installing Etch onto a laptop w/out CD device

2007-02-16 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Thu, 15 Feb 2007 17:38:28 +, andy wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Good day > > I have an old-ish laptop with a dodgy CD-device, onto which I want to > install Etch. I am using Etch on my desktop and the laptop is > connected to the same LAN that my desktop is on. Is there anyway

Re: qdvdauthor not executing commands to make dvd

2007-02-16 Thread H.S.
H.S. wrote: Hello, I am trying to put a few home movies onto a DVD. I have more or less made the menu and imported the videos in Qdvdauthor. However, when I try to create the DVD, qdvdauthor shows in a new windows the commands that it will execute. Upon pressing "OK", it gives a black "Execu

Re: Help! Corrupted filesystem

2007-02-16 Thread Mankuthimma
Hi, Should I fsck from a Knopix CD or do it from my Knoppix hd install or do it from the Debian command line? Does it matter at all? Best option. Boot from knoppix and fsck the partition # fsck /dev/hdXX Am I correct in assuming that I need to mount the partition in read-write mode in orde

Re: Configure error: C compiler cannot create executables

2007-02-16 Thread Andy Smith
On Fri, Feb 16, 2007 at 10:44:45PM -0500, Ken Heard wrote: > Now that I am using Debian Etch, I want to install the latest dosemu > version. After downloading the tarball and unpacking it, I ran > "./configure". The result was the error message quoted in the subject > line above. (I have several

Re: Now working... gdm??? Re: Couldn't load XKB keymap... Can't switch to terminal mode

2007-02-16 Thread cga2000
On Fri, Feb 16, 2007 at 07:38:26PM EST, Kenward Vaughan wrote: > On Fri, 2007-02-16 at 18:15 -0500, cga2000 wrote: > ... > > I've pretty much lost track but if the OP absolutely needs a GUI logon > > screen .. did he try the alternatives to gdm (xdm, kdm, wdm, ..) ?? > > > > Otherwise what's wrong

Re: What changed permissions of /tmp ?

2007-02-16 Thread Robert Epprecht
Andrew Sackville-West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Fri, Feb 16, 2007 at 08:31:40AM +0100, Robert Epprecht wrote: >> something had changed permission of /tmp to drwxr-xr-x. >> I have no idea what could be the cause of this permission change. > > did you install something or upgrade something in

Re: Stupid Noob Question: Surfing the 'Testing' edge

2007-02-16 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Andrei Popescu wrote: > On Fri, 16 Feb 2007 22:52:07 +0100 > Joe Hart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> I have a feeling this is likely to start a debate. Be that as it >> may, I set my KDE to select on one click and activate on two. >> However, if I

[Debian-User] Xen

2007-02-16 Thread Admin
One of the several reasons I left a large space on the hard drive was to establish a Debian based Xen virtual machine. To do this Xen is installed on top of the Debian kernel. The Debian distribution is installed in a large partition so it can be added to in the future. Other distributions an

Re: Now working... gdm??? Re: Couldn't load XKB keymap... Can't switch to terminal mode

2007-02-16 Thread Kenward Vaughan
On Sat, 2007-02-17 at 01:09 -0500, cga2000 wrote: > On Fri, Feb 16, 2007 at 07:38:26PM EST, Kenward Vaughan wrote: > > On Fri, 2007-02-16 at 18:15 -0500, cga2000 wrote: > > ... > > > I've pretty much lost track but if the OP absolutely needs a GUI logon > > > screen .. did he try the alternatives t

Re: Stupid Noob Question: Surfing the 'Testing' edge

2007-02-16 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Sat, 17 Feb 2007 07:56:18 +0100 Joe Hart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm sure a cp would work just as well, but I like the "Auto Skip" that > Konqueror does, not to mention I can track the progress. Have a look at mc (Midnight Commander). It is text mode (so it also runs from a console), but

Re: Woody on 486 problem

2007-02-16 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Fri, 16 Feb 2007 21:47:05 -0600 Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 02/16/07 21:31, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > On Fri, 16 Feb 2007 16:52:29 -0600, Mike wrote in message > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > >> Ron Johnson wrote: > >>> > >>> O

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