Re: IA64 zx2000 boot problems

2013-11-19 Thread Bob Proulx
e. I think it is cool that you are running it. But very few people will have that hardware these days. (I used to have one running under my desk.) I suggest that you would have better luck getting help with it on the Debian ia64 mailing list. That would be the audience who is running on the same ar

IA64 zx2000 boot problems

2013-11-19 Thread Eberhard Heuser
Hi all,   I want to install the newest debian version on my Itanium zx2000 machine.   The system crashes shortly after elilo is started. I've seen some reports about this problem but I cannot find any solution in the postings.   thanx Eberhard

Re: IA64 or AMD64?

2012-10-02 Thread Stan Hoeppner
chnically accurate. AMD renamed the architecture from x86-64 to AMD64 to brand it, much to my chagrin. Currently, "AMD64" is the technically accurate name of the ISA. AMD deprecated "x86-64". Please read my post which stated why both the AMD64 and IA64 port names must be c

Re: IA64 or AMD64?

2012-10-01 Thread Ralf Mardorf
ent solution to this confusion is for Debian to > > > > rename the IA64 port to "Itanium" and rename the AMD64 port to > > > > something like "AMDINTL64". > > > > > > Something wrong with 'x86_64'? > > > > FWIW I ne

Re: IA64 or AMD64?

2012-10-01 Thread Kelly Clowers
On Sat, Sep 29, 2012 at 2:51 AM, Brad Rogers wrote: > On Sat, 29 Sep 2012 01:47:55 -0500 > Stan Hoeppner wrote: > > Hello Stan, > >>name I suggest above allows even the most challenged users to >>understand. > > I disagree. the use of the letters INTL are already established, > admittedly in oth

Re: IA64 or AMD64?

2012-09-30 Thread Stan Hoeppner
On 9/30/2012 6:02 AM, Wolf Halton wrote: > How long after end-of-life of the itanium chip will Debian keep the port to > IA64? There's no requirement, that I am aware of, that says Debian must wait until EOL of a processor before dropping support for it. Anyone have a link to t

Re: IA64 or AMD64?

2012-09-30 Thread Wolf Halton
How long after end-of-life of the itanium chip will Debian keep the port to IA64? sorry for top-posting; that is how droid does. Wolf Halton http://sourcefreedom.com Apache developer: wolfhal...@apache.org On Sep 30, 2012 6:40 AM, "Martin Steigerwald" wrote: > Am Sonntag, 30. S

Re: IA64 or AMD64?

2012-09-30 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Sonntag, 30. September 2012 schrieb Stan Hoeppner: > > Having said that, I am aware that something is changing as the > > IA64/AMD64 question is getting asked more frequently these days. > > Whether that's because there are more adopters that are not quite as > > co

Re: IA64 or AMD64?

2012-09-29 Thread Stan Hoeppner
urrent users, not new users, "new" defined as coming from Microsoft Windows and never having used Linux. If some Linux savvy users, such as the OP who started this thread, can't understand the current port names, 'new' users surely won't. You're also missing the fact

Re: IA64 or AMD64?

2012-09-29 Thread Brad Rogers
e a bit more technically savvy that the average Joe. Having said that, I am aware that something is changing as the IA64/AMD64 question is getting asked more frequently these days. Whether that's because there are more adopters that are not quite as competent as before, I couldn't say. --

Re: IA64 or AMD64?

2012-09-29 Thread Stan Hoeppner
n the second hand market for SGI Altix 3/4K and HP RX systems, in North America anyway. And the numbers would be extremely small. You may be right on this one. Itanic is included in Wheezy yes? So it will be at least a few years before the IA64 port is dropped. Changing from IA64 to Itanium du

Re: IA64 or AMD64?

2012-09-28 Thread Stan Hoeppner
I suggest above allows even the most challenged users to understand. The other problem is the existence of the name "IA64". This has as much to do with the confusion as "AMD64" does. To fix the entire problem, "IA64" must be eliminated so it doesn't confuse people wh

Re: IA64 or AMD64?

2012-09-28 Thread Stan Hoeppner
On 9/28/2012 1:52 AM, Neal Murphy wrote: > On Friday, September 28, 2012 02:35:49 AM Stan Hoeppner wrote: >> The only permanent solution to this confusion is for Debian to rename >> the IA64 port to "Itanium" and rename the AMD64 port to something like >> "A

Re: IA64 or AMD64?

2012-09-28 Thread Jon Dowland
On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 01:35:49AM -0500, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > Maybe we could start some kind of petition for "Itanium" and > "AMDINTL64". I think these tell everyone at a glance what they need to > know when selecting a port, and would completely eliminate the confusion. Itanium will probably

Re: IA64 or AMD64?

2012-09-28 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Freitag, 28. September 2012 schrieb Ralf Mardorf: > On Fri, 2012-09-28 at 02:52 -0400, Neal Murphy wrote: > > On Friday, September 28, 2012 02:35:49 AM Stan Hoeppner wrote: > > > The only permanent solution to this confusion is for Debian to > > > rename the IA64 p

Re: IA64 or AMD64?

2012-09-28 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Freitag, 28. September 2012 schrieb Stan Hoeppner: > On 9/27/2012 10:07 AM, Jochen Spieker wrote: > > Tony Baldwin: > >> On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 09:33:45AM +0200, Helmut Wollmersdorfer wrote: > >>> I also had to find the answer for 'IA64 or AMD64?'. AFAI

Re: IA64 or AMD64?

2012-09-28 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Fri, 2012-09-28 at 02:52 -0400, Neal Murphy wrote: > On Friday, September 28, 2012 02:35:49 AM Stan Hoeppner wrote: > > The only permanent solution to this confusion is for Debian to rename > > the IA64 port to "Itanium" and rename the AMD64 port to some

Re: IA64 or AMD64?

2012-09-27 Thread Neal Murphy
On Friday, September 28, 2012 02:35:49 AM Stan Hoeppner wrote: > The only permanent solution to this confusion is for Debian to rename > the IA64 port to "Itanium" and rename the AMD64 port to something like > "AMDINTL64". Something wrong with 'x86_64'? -

Re: IA64 or AMD64?

2012-09-27 Thread Stan Hoeppner
On 9/27/2012 10:07 AM, Jochen Spieker wrote: > Tony Baldwin: >> On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 09:33:45AM +0200, Helmut Wollmersdorfer wrote: >>> >>> I also had to find the answer for 'IA64 or AMD64?'. AFAIR I used >>> google and then I grepped /proc/cpuinfo

Re: IA64 or AMD64?

2012-09-27 Thread Jochen Spieker
Stan Hoeppner: > > I think most people know when I swing the cluebat that I'm not trying to > belittle the person on the receiving end, but simply forcefully driving > home a point. If I actually intended to hurt someone's feelings I'd > reply off list. That makes it personal. And this is exact

Re: IA64 or AMD64?

2012-09-27 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Dienstag, 25. September 2012 schrieb Stan Hoeppner: > I'm direct, often blunt, opinionated, arrogant, and sometimes abrasive. > I admit these character "flaws" and make no apologies for > them. That's who I am. I guess I was made to counterbalance all of > the sugar coating and political corr

Re: IA64 or AMD64?

2012-09-27 Thread Kelly Clowers
x86-64. All modern Intel Pentiums, Core series, and Xeons are x86-64. It is called AMD64 in Debian because AMD invented that extension to x86; Intel copied it when it turned out to be so successful. IA64 (Intel Architecture 64, named long before the marketing name "Intel 64" for x86-

Re: IA64 or AMD64?

2012-09-27 Thread Jochen Spieker
Tony Baldwin: > On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 09:33:45AM +0200, Helmut Wollmersdorfer wrote: >> >> I also had to find the answer for 'IA64 or AMD64?'. AFAIR I used >> google and then I grepped /proc/cpuinfo for 'lm'. > > Isn't this just a question o

Re: IA64 or AMD64?

2012-09-27 Thread Tony Baldwin
h a quad socket DL580. > > Why not? > > AFAIR it was with the release of Squeeze that I did my first 64 bit > installation after using Debian >10 years. > > I also had to find the answer for 'IA64 or AMD64?'. AFAIR I used > google and then I grepped /proc/

Re: IA64 or AMD64?

2012-09-25 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 04:54:26PM -0500, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > On 9/21/2012 4:16 PM, Neal Murphy wrote: > > On Friday, September 21, 2012 04:53:21 PM Stan Hoeppner wrote: > >> It's not writing style but attitude. My attitude is that people should > >> be self reliant. Only when they search and

Re: IA64 or AMD64?

2012-09-25 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 03:53:21PM -0500, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > On 9/21/2012 10:06 AM, Camaleón wrote: > > > Stan, just my personal opinion but I think there's no need (and no gain) > > to say this on the list. We all can think whatever we want -and we can be > > wrong or right as we don't have

Re: IA64 or AMD64?

2012-09-25 Thread latinfo
> > Am 21.09.2012 um 22:53 schrieb Stan Hoeppner: > >> On 9/21/2012 10:06 AM, Camaleón wrote: >> >>> Stan, just my personal opinion but I think there's no need (and no >>> gain) >>> to say this on the list. We all can think whatever we want -and we >>> can be >>> wrong or right as we don't have all

Re: IA64 or AMD64?

2012-09-25 Thread Victor Padro
On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 2:53 AM, Tóth Tibor Péter wrote: >>> Yes, but people don't start with a quad socket DL580. > You're right! > Some people starts biger than a DL580 :D > > > Ezen üzenet és annak bármely csatolt anyaga bizalmas, jogi védelem alatt áll, > a nyilvános közléstől védett. Az üzen

RE: IA64 or AMD64?

2012-09-25 Thread Tóth Tibor Péter
>> Yes, but people don't start with a quad socket DL580. You're right! Some people starts biger than a DL580 :D Ezen üzenet és annak bármely csatolt anyaga bizalmas, jogi védelem alatt áll, a nyilvános közléstől védett. Az üzenetet kizárólag a címzett, illetve az általa meghatalmazottak használ

Re: IA64 or AMD64?

2012-09-25 Thread Helmut Wollmersdorfer
Am 21.09.2012 um 23:16 schrieb Neal Murphy: If one cannot respond with civility and respect, one shouldn't respond at all. Attitudes like yours drive people away from OSS. Fully ACK. Open Source needs open communication. Helmut Wollmersdorfer -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-re

Re: IA64 or AMD64?

2012-09-25 Thread Helmut Wollmersdorfer
Am 21.09.2012 um 22:53 schrieb Stan Hoeppner: On 9/21/2012 10:06 AM, Camaleón wrote: Stan, just my personal opinion but I think there's no need (and no gain) to say this on the list. We all can think whatever we want -and we can be wrong or right as we don't have all the details over the t

Re: IA64 or AMD64?

2012-09-25 Thread Helmut Wollmersdorfer
ebian >10 years. I also had to find the answer for 'IA64 or AMD64?'. AFAIR I used google and then I grepped /proc/cpuinfo for 'lm'. BTW: We have here many powerful machines out of service, because they are not worth the time for refurbishing. Helmut Wollmersdorfer

Re: IA64 or AMD64?

2012-09-24 Thread Neal Murphy
On Tuesday, September 25, 2012 02:12:10 AM Ross Boylan wrote: > I wish you would be more civil instead of more clever about being > incivil. Never mind that Miss Manners would be utterly aghast that someone would try to claim the right to behave rudely, impolitely and/or barbarously simply becau

Re: IA64 or AMD64?

2012-09-24 Thread Ross Boylan
On Tue, 2012-09-25 at 00:19 -0500, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > > I think most people know when I swing the cluebat that I'm not trying > to > belittle the person on the receiving end, but simply forcefully > driving > home a point. If I actually intended to hurt someone's feelings I'd > reply off list

Re: IA64 or AMD64?

2012-09-24 Thread Stan Hoeppner
e caliber of the system being used, should have been able to easily find the answer. It's not necessary to live and breath this stuff as I do in order to find such answers, without resorting to a mailing list. > The only thing you can conclude > from his question is that he didn'

Re: IA64 or AMD64?

2012-09-24 Thread Stan Hoeppner
27;t think it's over 50% of people doing this, but the number is far more than a "few". > I agree it seems likely. But maybe Mauro made some effort? The answer is simply too easy to find. One click from the Debian home page (Ports/Architectures), and the first Google hit for &quo

Re: IA64 or AMD64?

2012-09-23 Thread T Elcor
- Original Message - > From: Stan Hoeppner > Go back and re-read my original reply to the OP.  Then explain to the > list what it was that I said which so compelled you to go to battle. The problem is that you make some questionable assumptions, hold them as absolute truth and then pro

Re: IA64 or AMD64?

2012-09-23 Thread Camaleón
On Sun, 23 Sep 2012 02:23:15 -0500, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > On 9/22/2012 7:14 AM, Camaleón wrote: (...) >>> I disagree. This list, as with most others, is not to be used as a >>> primary technical support resource. People should be making at least >>> a cursory effort to search for information

Re: IA64 or AMD64?

2012-09-23 Thread Christofer C. Bell
ding on the right side of the page." There's nothing in the OP's post that indicates he doesn't know what kind of hardware he has (x86 vs. Itanium). He even identifies the processor in the original post as "Xeon." When it's pointed out to him that IA64 is

Re: IA64 or AMD64?

2012-09-23 Thread Brian
On Fri 21 Sep 2012 at 19:42:03 -0500, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > On 9/21/2012 7:05 PM, T Elcor wrote: > > > > If someone deems a question "stupid" and below his level of > > expertise one can always ignore the question, as there is no > > obligation for anyone to answer any questions on this list. Pe

Re: IA64 or AMD64?

2012-09-23 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Freitag, 21. September 2012 schrieb Stan Hoeppner: > On 9/21/2012 4:16 PM, Neal Murphy wrote: > > On Friday, September 21, 2012 04:53:21 PM Stan Hoeppner wrote: > >> It's not writing style but attitude. My attitude is that people > >> should be self reliant. Only when they search and can't fin

Re: IA64 or AMD64?

2012-09-23 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Freitag, 21. September 2012 schrieb Neal Murphy: > On Friday, September 21, 2012 04:53:21 PM Stan Hoeppner wrote: > > It's not writing style but attitude. My attitude is that people > > should be self reliant. Only when they search and can't find an > > answer should they ask on a mailing list

Re: IA64 or AMD64?

2012-09-23 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Freitag, 21. September 2012 schrieb Stan Hoeppner: > On 9/21/2012 10:06 AM, Camaleón wrote: > > Stan, just my personal opinion but I think there's no need (and no > > gain) to say this on the list. We all can think whatever we want > > -and we can be wrong or right as we don't have all the deta

Re: IA64 or AMD64?

2012-09-23 Thread Stan Hoeppner
On 9/23/2012 3:20 AM, Christofer C. Bell wrote: > While one could hope you're wanting this off the list because you've > finally realized how much you've embarrassed yourself, I know that, > sadly, that isn't true. The only thing in this thread that has embarrassed me is the hypocrisy of those, i

Re: IA64 or AMD64?

2012-09-23 Thread Rick Thomas
Stan, Calling people names is no way to encourage them to use free software. Rick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/bb13d31f-28c7-47b1-b34c-3c121e74f.

Re: IA64 or AMD64?

2012-09-23 Thread Christofer C. Bell
On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 2:23 AM, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > On 9/22/2012 7:14 AM, Camaleón wrote: >> On Fri, 21 Sep 2012 15:53:21 -0500, Stan Hoeppner wrote: >> >>> On 9/21/2012 10:06 AM, Camaleón wrote: >>> Stan, just my personal opinion but I think there's no need (and no gain) to say this

Re: IA64 or AMD64?

2012-09-23 Thread Stan Hoeppner
On 9/22/2012 7:14 AM, Camaleón wrote: > On Fri, 21 Sep 2012 15:53:21 -0500, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > >> On 9/21/2012 10:06 AM, Camaleón wrote: >> >>> Stan, just my personal opinion but I think there's no need (and no >>> gain) to say this on the list. We all can think whatever we want -and >>> we ca

Re: IA64 or AMD64?

2012-09-22 Thread Camaleón
On Fri, 21 Sep 2012 15:53:21 -0500, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > On 9/21/2012 10:06 AM, Camaleón wrote: > >> Stan, just my personal opinion but I think there's no need (and no >> gain) to say this on the list. We all can think whatever we want -and >> we can be wrong or right as we don't have all the d

Re: IA64 or AMD64?

2012-09-22 Thread Richard Hector
On 22/09/12 21:18, Stan Hoeppner wrote: The clue bat is "uncivilized" by design. If you're going to hit someone in the gut to get their full attention, and make sure what you're telling them sticks, wrapping the blunt instrument in a big pillow of cotton candy defeats the purpose, doesn't it,

Re: IA64 or AMD64?

2012-09-22 Thread Stan Hoeppner
On 9/22/2012 2:45 AM, Christofer C. Bell wrote: > I agree that the OP's question was ... perhaps unenlightened. > However, I don't respond like a jerk to such questions. While > answering the question simply and clearly isn't beneath you, > undignifying yourself by responding in such an unciviliz

Re: IA64 or AMD64?

2012-09-22 Thread Brad Rogers
On Sat, 22 Sep 2012 02:38:54 -0500 "Christofer C. Bell" wrote: Hello Christofer, >* Use common sense all the time. The trouble with that is, the use of the word "common". IME, the sense it talks of is anything *but* common. :-( -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious

Re: IA64 or AMD64?

2012-09-22 Thread Stan Hoeppner
On 9/22/2012 2:38 AM, Christofer C. Bell wrote: > Stan violates these two points of the CoC: > > * The mailing lists exist to foster the development and use of Debian. > Non-constructive or off-topic messages, along with other abuses, are > not welcome. > * Try not to flame; it is not polite. I

Re: IA64 or AMD64?

2012-09-22 Thread Christofer C. Bell
On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 7:42 PM, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > On 9/21/2012 7:05 PM, T Elcor wrote: >> - Original Message - >> >> You are either: 1. Horribly lazy 2. Incompetent >> >>> Stan, just my personal opinion but I think there's no need (and no gain) >>> to say this o

Re: IA64 or AMD64?

2012-09-22 Thread Christofer C. Bell
On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 9:49 PM, Joe Pfeiffer wrote: > T Elcor writes: > >> - Original Message - >> >> From: Stan Hoeppner >> >>> This list, as with most others, is not to be used as a >>> primary technical support resource. People should be making at least a >>> cursory effort to searc

Re: IA64 or AMD64?

2012-09-21 Thread Joe Pfeiffer
T Elcor writes: > - Original Message - > > From: Stan Hoeppner > >> This list, as with most others, is not to be used as a >> primary technical support resource.  People should be making at least a >> cursory effort to search for information before asking here. > > Please see the Code of

Re: IA64 or AMD64?

2012-09-21 Thread Stan Hoeppner
On 9/21/2012 7:17 PM, T Elcor wrote: > - Original Message - > > From: Stan Hoeppner > >> This list, as with most others, is not to be used as a >> primary technical support resource. People should be making at least a >> cursory effort to search for information before asking here. > >

Re: IA64 or AMD64?

2012-09-21 Thread Stan Hoeppner
On 9/21/2012 7:05 PM, T Elcor wrote: > - Original Message - > > >>> You are either: >>> >>> 1. Horribly lazy >>> 2. Incompetent > >> Stan, just my personal opinion but I think there's no need (and no gain) >> to say this on the list > > I agree. I find this list to be very helpful bu

Re: IA64 or AMD64?

2012-09-21 Thread T Elcor
- Original Message - From: Stan Hoeppner > This list, as with most others, is not to be used as a > primary technical support resource.  People should be making at least a > cursory effort to search for information before asking here. Please see the Code of Conduct ( http://www.debian.

Re: IA64 or AMD64?

2012-09-21 Thread T Elcor
- Original Message - >> You are either: >> >> 1.  Horribly lazy >> 2.  Incompetent > Stan, just my personal opinion but I think there's no need (and no gain) > to say this on the list I agree. I find this list to be very helpful but lately there seems to have been a lot of unnecessar

Re: IA64 or AMD64?

2012-09-21 Thread Roger B.A. Klorese
On 9/21/12 3:06 PM, Wayne Topa wrote: If one cannot respond with civility and respect, one shouldn't respond at all. How would that help OSS? I wasn't aware I had an obligation to help OSS in order to use it. The list exists to help people use the software, and not primarily to help the so

Re: IA64 or AMD64?

2012-09-21 Thread Ralf Mardorf
self-fulfilling prophecy, one can aim at Godwin's law ;) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1348265101.1187.2.camel@localhost.localdomain

Re: IA64 or AMD64?

2012-09-21 Thread Wayne Topa
On 09/21/2012 05:16 PM, Neal Murphy wrote: On Friday, September 21, 2012 04:53:21 PM Stan Hoeppner wrote: It's not writing style but attitude. My attitude is that people should be self reliant. Only when they search and can't find an answer should they ask on a mailing list. Especially in thi

Re: IA64 or AMD64?

2012-09-21 Thread Stan Hoeppner
On 9/21/2012 4:16 PM, Neal Murphy wrote: > On Friday, September 21, 2012 04:53:21 PM Stan Hoeppner wrote: >> It's not writing style but attitude. My attitude is that people should >> be self reliant. Only when they search and can't find an answer should >> they ask on a mailing list. Especially

Re: IA64 or AMD64?

2012-09-21 Thread Neal Murphy
On Friday, September 21, 2012 04:53:21 PM Stan Hoeppner wrote: > It's not writing style but attitude. My attitude is that people should > be self reliant. Only when they search and can't find an answer should > they ask on a mailing list. Especially in this case, when the answer is > so damn eas

Re: IA64 or AMD64?

2012-09-21 Thread Stan Hoeppner
On 9/21/2012 10:06 AM, Camaleón wrote: > Stan, just my personal opinion but I think there's no need (and no gain) > to say this on the list. We all can think whatever we want -and we can be > wrong or right as we don't have all the details over the table- but it's > rather discourteous to tell

Re: IA64 or AMD64?

2012-09-21 Thread Camaleón
On Thu, 20 Sep 2012 16:04:50 -0500, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > On 9/20/2012 2:44 AM, Mauro wrote: >> Hello. >> I have a HP proliant DL580 G5 server with 4 Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E7330 >> @ 2.40GHz processors. >> What architecture port I've to install, IA64 or AMD64? T

Re: IA64 or AMD64?

2012-09-21 Thread Mauro
On 20 September 2012 23:04, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > You are either: > > 1. Horribly lazy > 2. Incompetent Ok, thank you for answer, have a good day ;-) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.

Re: IA64 or AMD64?

2012-09-21 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2012-09-20 at 23:43 -0500, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > It draws about 400-500 watts continuously at idle, up to 900 at load. > 99.999% of people will not tolerate this on the home electric bill. 99.9991% of the people don't have knowledge about this, their motto is "more is better". -- To UN

Re: IA64 or AMD64?

2012-09-21 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2012-09-20 at 19:43 -0600, Joe Pfeiffer wrote: > That he's at that stage now doesn't mean he's an idiot. Even if somebody should be an idiot, I wonder about the intolerance. Isn't it wanted that everybody should use FLOSS? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org

Re: IA64 or AMD64?

2012-09-20 Thread Stan Hoeppner
On 9/20/2012 8:43 PM, Joe Pfeiffer wrote: > Why do you assume he's doing it for work? If he said something about > being an experienced sysadmin, I missed it. This could easily be a box > he bought as the n'th owner or from ebay or something. The noise level of a DL580 is 52 dBA. 99.999% of pe

Re: IA64 or AMD64?

2012-09-20 Thread Joe Pfeiffer
Stan Hoeppner writes: > On 9/20/2012 4:40 PM, Richard Hector wrote: >> On 21/09/12 09:04, Stan Hoeppner wrote: >> >>> You are either: >>> >>> 1. Horribly lazy >>> 2. Incompetent >>> >> >> Or having a bad day, or been dropped in the deep end by the employer, or >> any one of a number of things

Re: IA64 or AMD64?

2012-09-20 Thread Stan Hoeppner
On 9/20/2012 4:40 PM, Richard Hector wrote: > On 21/09/12 09:04, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > >> You are either: >> >> 1. Horribly lazy >> 2. Incompetent >> > > Or having a bad day, or been dropped in the deep end by the employer, or > any one of a number of things we don't know about. > > Suggestin

Re: IA64 or AMD64?

2012-09-20 Thread Richard Hector
On 21/09/12 09:04, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > You are either: > > 1. Horribly lazy > 2. Incompetent > Or having a bad day, or been dropped in the deep end by the employer, or any one of a number of things we don't know about. Suggesting google or debian.org or whatever is fine, but this is way o

Re: IA64 or AMD64?

2012-09-20 Thread Stan Hoeppner
On 9/20/2012 2:44 AM, Mauro wrote: > Hello. > I have a HP proliant DL580 G5 server with 4 Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E7330 > @ 2.40GHz processors. > What architecture port I've to install, IA64 or AMD64? > Thank you. This may be a bit harsh, but it's the glaring truth: your

Re: IA64 or AMD64?

2012-09-20 Thread Camaleón
On Thu, 20 Sep 2012 09:44:35 +0200, Mauro wrote: > I have a HP proliant DL580 G5 server with 4 Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E7330 > @ 2.40GHz processors. > What architecture port I've to install, IA64 or AMD64? Thank you. The available architectures are detailed and explain

Re: IA64 or AMD64?

2012-09-20 Thread Mauro
On 20 September 2012 09:53, Markus Schönhaber wrote: > 20.09.2012 09:44, Mauro: > >> I have a HP proliant DL580 G5 server with 4 Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E7330 >> @ 2.40GHz processors. >> What architecture port I've to install, IA64 or AMD64? > > AMD64. > IA64

Re: IA64 or AMD64?

2012-09-20 Thread Markus Schönhaber
20.09.2012 09:44, Mauro: > I have a HP proliant DL580 G5 server with 4 Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E7330 > @ 2.40GHz processors. > What architecture port I've to install, IA64 or AMD64? AMD64. IA64 is for Itanium processors. You'd know if you had one. -- Regards mks -- To UN

IA64 or AMD64?

2012-09-20 Thread Mauro
Hello. I have a HP proliant DL580 G5 server with 4 Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E7330 @ 2.40GHz processors. What architecture port I've to install, IA64 or AMD64? Thank you. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble?

Re: 6.0.5 ia64 network card question

2012-05-17 Thread Stan Hoeppner
On 5/17/2012 8:59 AM, Bill Mclain wrote: > Actually I meant ia64, but I got it working. Thanks for all the help! Into which/whose Itanium server did you install this Best Buy NIC? Seems strange to install such an el cheapo NIC into an $8-$10K (minimum) server. -- Stan > Bill McLain >

Re: 6.0.5 ia64 network card question

2012-05-16 Thread Stan Hoeppner
get it to install either. Thanks and any info I did >> not provide just let me know and I will get it to you. > > First, I'd guess you really didn't mean "IA64" but "AMD64". As for the > Best Buy house brand NIC, post lscpi output for the device. The name on

Re: 6.0.5 ia64 network card question

2012-05-16 Thread Stan Hoeppner
just let me know and I will get it to you. First, I'd guess you really didn't mean "IA64" but "AMD64". As for the Best Buy house brand NIC, post lscpi output for the device. The name on the card is irrelevant. What matters is what ethernet ASIC it has. Linux drives ar

RE: 6.0.5 ia64 network card question

2012-05-16 Thread Bill Mclain
All, Can anyone assist me with getting drivers and installing a Dynex DX-PCIGB network card? I also have a USB Netgear Wireless n300 adapter as an alternative but I cannot get it to install either. Thanks and any info I did not provide just let me know and I will get it to you. Bill

Re: libc6.1-dev 2.11.3-3 after Squeeze 6.0.4 DVD install on ia64

2012-03-08 Thread Camaleón
On Wed, 07 Mar 2012 18:15:30 -0700, Ryan J Nicholson wrote: > The following packages have unmet dependencies: > build-essential : > Depends: libc6.1-dev but it is not going to be installed or libc-dev This says that you have to manually install "libc-dev" first. > Depends: g++ (>= 4:4.4.3) but

libc6.1-dev 2.11.3-3 after Squeeze 6.0.4 DVD install on ia64

2012-03-07 Thread Ryan J Nicholson
I installed ia64 Squeeze 6.0.4 from DVD to an HP Integrity rx1620. I enabled mirrors during the install - ftp.us.debian.org. After installation, I updated against ftp.us.debian.org. I attempted to install build-essential and was blocked: Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that

Re: ia64 and i386

2011-06-06 Thread wolf python london
:48 PM, J.Hwan.Kim wrote: >> >>> >> >>> Hi, everyone >> >>> >> >>> If the CPU core is i5, what package should be installed ia64 or i386? >> >>> My old PC (Pentium-D core) is using i386 package. >> >>> >>

Re: ia64 and i386

2011-06-06 Thread Erwan David
everyone > >>> > >>> If the CPU core is i5, what package should be installed ia64 or i386? > >>> My old PC (Pentium-D core) is using i386 package. > >>> > >>> Thanks in advance. > >>> > >>> Best Regards, > >>

Re: ia64 and i386

2011-06-06 Thread wolf python london
On 24 May 2011 23:26, Mathieu Malaterre wrote: > On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 5:18 PM, Mihira Fernando > wrote: >> On 05/24/2011 08:48 PM, J.Hwan.Kim wrote: >>> >>> Hi, everyone >>> >>> If the CPU core is i5, what package should be installed ia64 or i3

Re: ia64 and i386

2011-06-06 Thread Celejar
On Mon, 30 May 2011 19:57:39 + (UTC) Camaleón wrote: > On Mon, 30 May 2011 15:21:37 -0400, Celejar wrote: > > > On Tue, 24 May 2011 21:14:38 +0530 > > Mihira Fernando wrote: > > > > ... > > > >> Adobe flashplayer comes to mind as well. While there is a 64 bit > >> player, I've found that

Re: ia64 and i386

2011-05-31 Thread Celejar
On Mon, 30 May 2011 16:38:19 -0400 Doug wrote: > On 05/30/2011 03:21 PM, Celejar wrote: > > On Tue, 24 May 2011 21:14:38 +0530 > > Mihira Fernando wrote: > > > > ... > > > >> Adobe flashplayer comes to mind as well. While there is a 64 bit player, > >> I've found that the 32bit one plays without

[OT] Yet Another Flash Discussion (was: ia64 and i386)

2011-05-31 Thread Camaleón
On Mon, 30 May 2011 16:09:20 -0400, George Standish wrote: > Shouldn't the subject be "AMD64 and i386"? Well, yes, but now should be retitle to "YAFD" (Yet Another Flash Discussion"... done! :-) > On 30/05/11 03:57 PM, Camaleón wrote: >> On Mon, 30 May 2011 15:21:37 -0400, Celejar wrote: (...

Re: ia64 and i386

2011-05-30 Thread Leonardo Ruoso
Why don't get miro? ;-)

Re: ia64 and i386

2011-05-30 Thread William Hopkins
On 05/30/11 at 04:38pm, Doug wrote: > Using pclos; installed youtube-dl (which you refer to) and youtube-download. > Both are scripts. I searched the youtube-dl for "clive" and found nothing, > nor did I find usage, altho it might be there--this is a very large script. > The youtube-download (perh

Re: ia64 and i386

2011-05-30 Thread Doug
On 05/30/2011 03:21 PM, Celejar wrote: On Tue, 24 May 2011 21:14:38 +0530 Mihira Fernando wrote: ... Adobe flashplayer comes to mind as well. While there is a 64 bit player, I've found that the 32bit one plays without any hiccups that the 64bit one seems to have (No need to have flash is evil

Re: ia64 and i386

2011-05-30 Thread George Standish
Shouldn't the subject be "AMD64 and i386"? On 30/05/11 03:57 PM, Camaleón wrote: On Mon, 30 May 2011 15:21:37 -0400, Celejar wrote: On Tue, 24 May 2011 21:14:38 +0530 Mihira Fernando wrote: Adobe flashplayer comes to mind as well. While there is a 64 bit player, I've found that the 32bit on

Re: ia64 and i386

2011-05-30 Thread Camaleón
On Mon, 30 May 2011 15:21:37 -0400, Celejar wrote: > On Tue, 24 May 2011 21:14:38 +0530 > Mihira Fernando wrote: > > ... > >> Adobe flashplayer comes to mind as well. While there is a 64 bit >> player, I've found that the 32bit one plays without any hiccups that >> the 64bit one seems to have (

Re: ia64 and i386

2011-05-30 Thread Celejar
On Tue, 24 May 2011 21:14:38 +0530 Mihira Fernando wrote: ... > Adobe flashplayer comes to mind as well. While there is a 64 bit player, > I've found that the 32bit one plays without any hiccups that the 64bit > one seems to have (No need to have flash is evil debates here. Some of > us wants

Re: ia64 and i386

2011-05-26 Thread Arno Schuring
Jeroen van Aart (jer...@mompl.net on 2011-05-24 13:39 -0700): > Mathieu Malaterre wrote: > > amd64 is possible. Since from amd64 you can still run x86 code ... > > but not the other way around. Is there a drawback when installing > > an amd64 kernel ? > > 32 bits is likely to play more video codec

Re: [OT] ia64 and i386

2011-05-25 Thread Camaleón
On Wed, 25 May 2011 06:58:42 +0530, Mihira Fernando wrote: >> with all the people and resources they have their software should be >> 99.99∞% "bug-free">:-) >> >> Greetings, >> > then, following that logic, windows should be a perfect OS ... :P Well, although I don't like to give gratuitous c

Re: [OT] ia64 and i386

2011-05-24 Thread Mihira Fernando
with all the people and resources they have their software should be 99.99∞% "bug-free">:-) Greetings, then, following that logic, windows should be a perfect OS ... :P Mihira. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Con

Re: ia64 and i386

2011-05-24 Thread Burhan Hanoglu
> with the capacity of lscpu i obtain  : Hi, Try; $ cat /proc/cpuinfo Regards, Burhan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/BANLkTimGoyOKxc0TDrLXY8sewFi1s

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