On Fri, 21 Sep 2012 15:53:21 -0500, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > On 9/21/2012 10:06 AM, Camaleón wrote: > >> Stan, just my personal opinion but I think there's no need (and no >> gain) to say this on the list. We all can think whatever we want -and >> we can be wrong or right as we don't have all the details over the >> table- but it's rather discourteous to tell a user about what you >> estimate his/her skills are or aren't. That's simply out of place. > > I disagree. This list, as with most others, is not to be used as a > primary technical support resource. People should be making at least a > cursory effort to search for information before asking here.
But that's you own opinion and being a "personal" thinking, do you think making such assertions is going to help anyone? Or are simply aimed to feed your selfish and completely lack of empathy standpoint? > People in general, and especially those with systems of the caliber > mentioned in this thread, should have enough experience, competence, and > where-with-all to search before asking. Well, it's just a computer server, not a rocket nor something that requires for special or sophisticated training. Anyway, it's not your business to evaluate the knowledge and skills of the person who is going to manage the server nor what is going to be his job/role on that server, that's his boss decision. > As I said in my opening, I was likely being harsh. But as Patton said, > "Give it to 'em loud and dirty. That way it sticks." The phrasing was said in a very different context, I'm afraid. It does not pertain to a user to user mailing list scope. > Maybe this thread will remind people to do at least a little basic > research before asking simple questions. When people ask such > questions here, it is an insult to the list members, as the OP is > simply being lazy, asking us to do the research for him/her. I would > think most of us have better things to do than answer the same easy > questions ad infinitum. We are seeing similar questions passing along every day in this same list and I find them appropiate to be asked here. Why not? There are not grades "preset" and there is no obligation in replying. Should something is not of your interest or you think is too much "naive" for you, then move to the next post and keep your personal thoughts out of the public arena. >> I know that your comments are always in this line, thus I'm not >> surpised, but maybe others are not aware of your peculiar "writing >> style". > > It's not writing style but attitude. My attitude is that people should > be self reliant. Only when they search and can't find an answer should > they ask on a mailing list. Especially in this case, when the answer is > so damn easy to find, literally clicking one link on the Debian home > page and reading the subsequent page. Care your attitude then, because you can be doing many assumptions that can be simply untrue (or totally biased) and you'll be hurting people wrongly and gratuitous with your comments which will be preserved in the mailing list archive. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/k3ka3u$mv$6...@ger.gmane.org
