Re: Contributing back: Using grub2 to boot CD-ROM images

2024-11-21 Thread Charles Curley
On Wed, 20 Nov 2024 19:22:25 + Andy Smith wrote: > Sounds interesting and useful. I think you should write an article on > your blog, make sure that is archived in web.archive.org, and also put > the essentials of it in an article on the Debian Wiki. Thank you. That is what I will do, then.

Re: Contributing back: Using grub2 to boot CD-ROM images

2024-11-21 Thread Charles Curley
On Thu, 21 Nov 2024 11:47:41 +0200 Anssi Saari wrote: > One rescue system I like, grml, has a Debian package > grml-rescueboot which does this for their images. The package > provides a longish /etc/grub.d/42_grml to do its thing. Thanks, I'll take a look at it. -- Does anybody read signatures

Re: Contributing back: Using grub2 to boot CD-ROM images

2024-11-21 Thread Anssi Saari
Charles Curley writes: > I've developed a script and suitable grub stanzas to let the user > install several CD-ROM images on a hard drive, and boot from the > CD-ROMs without extracting the kernel or initrd. This gives the user > something of a rescue capability without requ

Re: Contributing back: Using grub2 to boot CD-ROM images

2024-11-20 Thread Charles Curley
On Wed, 20 Nov 2024 15:46:01 -0500 Stefan Monnier wrote: > IIUC in your case, they can each use their > own partitions. Currently, they all reside on the same partition. I suppose a bit of hacking could put each on its own. An interesting thought. But that's more work than I want to do right now

Re: Contributing back: Using grub2 to boot CD-ROM images

2024-11-20 Thread Stefan Monnier
>> In the past I've used the `grub-imageboot` package for that. > Near as I can tell, somewhere along the line the kernel and initrd are > extracted from the (CD|DVD|diskette) image. IIUC `grub-imageboot`s boot entries boot the ISOs by running the `memdisk` program, passing it

Re: Contributing back: Using grub2 to boot CD-ROM images

2024-11-20 Thread tomas
On Wed, Nov 20, 2024 at 06:44:50PM +0100, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > Hi, [...] > At similar occasions i created pages in the Debian wiki and asked the > general public for review and comments: [...] noted. Cheers -- t signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: Contributing back: Using grub2 to boot CD-ROM images

2024-11-20 Thread Andy Smith
Hi Charles, On Wed, Nov 20, 2024 at 10:21:09AM -0700, Charles Curley wrote: > I think this might make a useful how-to, possibly for the Debian wiki. > Any thoughts on where to contribute it? Sounds interesting and useful. I think you should write an article on your blog, make sure that is archive

Re: Contributing back: Using grub2 to boot CD-ROM images

2024-11-20 Thread Charles Curley
On Wed, 20 Nov 2024 13:01:35 -0500 Stefan Monnier wrote: > In the past I've used the `grub-imageboot` package for that. Aha! Thank you. Near as I can tell, somewhere along the line the kernel and initrd are extracted from the (CD|DVD|diskette) image. My software doesn't even requi

Re: Contributing back: Using grub2 to boot CD-ROM images

2024-11-20 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, > I've developed a script and suitable grub stanzas to let the user > install several CD-ROM images on a hard drive, and boot from the > CD-ROMs without extracting the kernel or initrd. > ... > I think this might make a useful how-to, possibly for the Debian wiki. > A

Re: Contributing back: Using grub2 to boot CD-ROM images

2024-11-20 Thread Stefan Monnier
> The three images I have been working with are recent netinst weekly > builds, a recent Finnix, and the gparted live CD. All three go on their > own partition, in hope that that partition would isolate them from file > system catastrophes. Nice. In the past I've used th

Contributing back: Using grub2 to boot CD-ROM images

2024-11-20 Thread Charles Curley
I've developed a script and suitable grub stanzas to let the user install several CD-ROM images on a hard drive, and boot from the CD-ROMs without extracting the kernel or initrd. This gives the user something of a rescue capability without requiring a CD/DVD or thumb drive. The three ima

Re: Contributing back: Using grub2 to boot CD-ROM images

2024-11-20 Thread tomas
On Wed, Nov 20, 2024 at 10:21:09AM -0700, Charles Curley wrote: > I've developed a script and suitable grub stanzas to let the user > install several CD-ROM images on a hard drive, and boot from the > CD-ROMs without extracting the kernel or initrd. This gives the user > some

Re: Contributing back: Using grub2 to boot CD-ROM images

2024-11-20 Thread Christian Britz
Sounds interesting, I would really like to give it a try.

Re: Planned path - was [Re: Installing current i386 Debian on OLD syst W/O CD/DVD drive]

2024-08-02 Thread eben
On 8/2/24 09:11, DdB wrote: If all you have is swap space or outdated crap, then back it up and do whatever you like. GPT is no must, if the disk is below 2TB in size and UEFI no option. If you have >4 partitions, then except for booting and recalcitrant OS installers, GPT is easier to deal wi

Re: Planned path - was [Re: Installing current i386 Debian on OLD syst W/O CD/DVD drive]

2024-08-02 Thread DdB
Am 02.08.2024 um 19:34 schrieb Łukasz Kalamłacki: > If you need to boot initrd without iso you an try this: Oops, i should read more carefully ... idk, why complicate matters. the boot files for i386 are located here: http://http.us.debian.org/debian/dists/bookworm/main/installer-i386/20230607+de

Re: Planned path - was [Re: Installing current i386 Debian on OLD syst W/O CD/DVD drive]

2024-08-02 Thread DdB
Am 02.08.2024 um 19:34 schrieb Łukasz Kalamłacki: > If you need to boot initrd without iso you an try this: Oops, i should read more carefully ... idk, why complicate matters. the boot files for i386 are located here: http://http.us.debian.org/debian/dists/bookworm/main/installer-i386/20230607+de

Re: Planned path - was [Re: Installing current i386 Debian on OLD syst W/O CD/DVD drive]

2024-08-02 Thread Łukasz Kalamłacki
If you need to boot initrd without iso you an try this: https://deb.debian.org/debian/dists/bookworm/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/debian-installer/i386/initrd.gz https://deb.debian.org/debian/dists/bookworm/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/debian-installer/i386/linux On

Re: Planned path - was [Re: Installing current i386 Debian on OLD syst W/O CD/DVD drive]

2024-08-02 Thread DdB
Am 02.08.2024 um 18:48 schrieb Anssi Saari: > Richard Owlett writes: > >> I was hoping I could somehow tell grub to run an installer's ISO image. >> I think the posted links will lead me adequately. > > I have actually tried that. The ISO image needs a little special support > so that after the

Re: Planned path - was [Re: Installing current i386 Debian on OLD syst W/O CD/DVD drive]

2024-08-02 Thread Anssi Saari
Richard Owlett writes: > I was hoping I could somehow tell grub to run an installer's ISO image. > I think the posted links will lead me adequately. I have actually tried that. The ISO image needs a little special support so that after the kernel has booted and initrd loaded, it needs to be able

Re: OPERATOR ERROR ---- Re: Planned path - was [Re: Installing current i386 Debian on OLD syst W/O CD/DVD drive]

2024-08-02 Thread Łukasz Kalamłacki
Hi, Could you give as more information about these systems on which you wish to install Bookworm? Newer distribution of Linux has a lot bigger resources consumption that old one. I would like to get: RAM size, CPU type, HDD size. Bookworm requirements are available here: https://wiki.de

Re: Planned path - was [Re: Installing current i386 Debian on OLD syst W/O CD/DVD drive]

2024-08-02 Thread DdB
Am 02.08.2024 um 14:34 schrieb Richard Owlett: > During initial installation of Debian Squeeze (or later) would I have > been explicitly asked to choose between MBR and GPT? I can't say, at that time, i was a stranger to debian. But ... i saw the installer deciding on its own, if not explicitly put

Re: Planned path - was [Re: Installing current i386 Debian on OLD syst W/O CD/DVD drive]

2024-08-02 Thread Richard Owlett
On 08/01/2024 02:33 PM, DdB wrote: Am 01.08.2024 um 21:11 schrieb Richard Owlett: I've never had occasion to use Grub's command line. Good time to learn. The existing install is so old it has Grub 1.??? rather than 2.??? . Should that make any practical difference to manual install? Not sure ab

OPERATOR ERROR ---- Re: Planned path - was [Re: Installing current i386 Debian on OLD syst W/O CD/DVD drive]

2024-08-02 Thread Richard Owlett
On 08/01/2024 02:11 PM, Richard Owlett wrote: On 08/01/2024 01:56 PM, DdB wrote: Am 01.08.2024 um 17:33 schrieb Richard Owlett: [SNIP] I've never had occasion to use Grub's command line. Good time to learn. The existing install is so old it has Grub 1.??? rather than 2.??? . Should that make a

Re: Planned path - was [Re: Installing current i386 Debian on OLD syst W/O CD/DVD drive]

2024-08-01 Thread Richard Owlett
On 08/01/2024 02:33 PM, DdB wrote: Am 01.08.2024 um 21:11 schrieb Richard Owlett: I've never had occasion to use Grub's command line. Good time to learn. The existing install is so old it has Grub 1.??? rather than 2.??? . Should that make any practical difference to manual install? Not sure ab

Re: Planned path - was [Re: Installing current i386 Debian on OLD syst W/O CD/DVD drive]

2024-08-01 Thread DdB
Am 01.08.2024 um 21:11 schrieb Richard Owlett: > I've never had occasion to use Grub's command line. Good time to learn. > The existing install is so old it has Grub 1.??? rather than 2.??? . > Should that make any practical difference to manual install? > > Not sure about gpt vs mbr. I have whate

Re: Planned path - was [Re: Installing current i386 Debian on OLD syst W/O CD/DVD drive]

2024-08-01 Thread Richard Owlett
On 08/01/2024 01:56 PM, DdB wrote: Am 01.08.2024 um 17:33 schrieb Richard Owlett: In the phrase "to boot the installer using grub stanza (or manually)", just what does "(or manually)" refer to? I am using all of the options listed below depending on circumstances. If you are clear about using

Re: Installing current i386 Debian on OLD syst W/O CD/DVD drive

2024-08-01 Thread Łukasz Kalamłacki
supports booting from a flash drive. Neither has functional CD/DVD drive. Both hard drives have copious free space. Both machines have internet access. Though this machine is 64Bit capable and bootable from flash, it does not have adequate free space for an additional OS. Are there documented

Re: Planned path - was [Re: Installing current i386 Debian on OLD syst W/O CD/DVD drive]

2024-08-01 Thread DdB
Am 01.08.2024 um 17:33 schrieb Richard Owlett: > In the phrase "to boot the installer using grub stanza (or manually)", > just what does "(or manually)" refer to? I am using all of the options listed below depending on circumstances. If you are clear about using your hd to store an installer iso,

Re: Installing current i386 Debian on OLD syst W/O CD/DVD drive

2024-08-01 Thread Łukasz Kalamłacki
ancient desktop with unknown motherboard happily running i386 Debian 9.0. As far as I can tell the BIOS of neither machine supports booting from a flash drive. Neither has functional CD/DVD drive. Both hard drives have copious free space. Both machines have internet access. Though this machine

Re: Installing current i386 Debian on OLD syst W/O CD/DVD drive

2024-08-01 Thread Łukasz Kalamłacki
Hi, 15 years ago I had a laptop with broken CD drive but with integrated working ethernet NIC and bios supported PXE boot, so I configured isc-dhcp-server in my network which provides pxelinux.0 bootloader and address of tftp server. On tftp server I uploaded pxeboot images from Debian

Planned path - was [Re: Installing current i386 Debian on OLD syst W/O CD/DVD drive]

2024-08-01 Thread Richard Owlett
On 08/01/2024 08:38 AM, Andy Smith wrote: Hi, On Thu, Aug 01, 2024 at 03:35:38PM +0200, DdB wrote: i recommend installing from netinstall iso image using the hd-media files to boot the installer using grub stanza (or manually). Description in the manual is a bit short, but you can ask me, if yo

Re: CLARIFICATIONS Re: Installing current i386 Debian on OLD syst W/O CD/DVD drive

2024-08-01 Thread Andy Smith
OS of neither machine supports booting from a flash drive. Neither has > > functional CD/DVD drive. Both hard drives have copious free space. > > Both machines have 32bit only hardware. Which part of the hardware is 32-bit only? You said the CPUs support 64-bit, and that's normally al

CLARIFICATIONS Re: Installing current i386 Debian on OLD syst W/O CD/DVD drive

2024-08-01 Thread Richard Owlett
On 08/01/2024 07:41 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: I have an elderly Sony laptop and a more ancient desktop with unknown motherboard happily running i386 Debian 9.0. As far as I can tell the BIOS of neither machine supports booting from a flash drive. Neither has functional CD/DVD drive. Both hard

Re: Installing current i386 Debian on OLD syst W/O CD/DVD drive

2024-08-01 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Thu, Aug 01, 2024 at 03:35:38PM +0200, DdB wrote: > i recommend installing from netinstall iso image using the > hd-media files to boot the installer using grub stanza (or > manually). Description in the manual is a bit short, but you can > ask me, if you need. Oh yes, great suggestion! I

Re: Installing current i386 Debian on OLD syst W/O CD/DVD drive

2024-08-01 Thread Anssi Saari
Richard Owlett writes: > I have an elderly Sony laptop and a more ancient desktop with unknown > motherboard happily running i386 Debian 9.0. As far as I can tell the > BIOS of neither machine supports booting from a flash drive. Neither > has functional CD/DVD drive. Both hard

Re: Installing current i386 Debian on OLD syst W/O CD/DVD drive

2024-08-01 Thread DdB
Am 01.08.2024 um 14:41 schrieb Richard Owlett: > I have an elderly Sony laptop and a more ancient desktop with unknown > motherboard happily running i386 Debian 9.0. As far as I can tell the > BIOS of neither machine supports booting from a flash drive. Neither has > functional CD/DVD

Re: Installing current i386 Debian on OLD syst W/O CD/DVD drive

2024-08-01 Thread George at Clug
a more ancient desktop with unknown > motherboard happily running i386 Debian 9.0. As far as I can tell the > BIOS of neither machine supports booting from a flash drive. Neither has > functional CD/DVD drive. Both hard drives have copious free space. > > Both machines have inte

Re: Installing current i386 Debian on OLD syst W/O CD/DVD drive

2024-08-01 Thread Andy Smith
ither has > functional CD/DVD drive. Both hard drives have copious free space. I would shrink the partition and then use debootstrap to install Debian in new partition in the available space, from the running Debian 9. Since you say it has a 64-bit capable CPU I'd make sure to install amd64 thoug

Installing current i386 Debian on OLD syst W/O CD/DVD drive

2024-08-01 Thread Richard Owlett
I have an elderly Sony laptop and a more ancient desktop with unknown motherboard happily running i386 Debian 9.0. As far as I can tell the BIOS of neither machine supports booting from a flash drive. Neither has functional CD/DVD drive. Both hard drives have copious free space. Both machines

Re: Testing CD preseed oops

2024-07-28 Thread Charles Curley
On Sun, 28 Jul 2024 22:39:47 +0200 john doe wrote: > I guess, this would be more for the debian-boot mailing list, as > apparently this is a regression. Thank you. I have re-sent. (rather than resented :-) > > In my case, I use the Qemu's built-in tftp server. Thanks for the suggestion. I hav

Re: Testing CD preseed oops

2024-07-28 Thread john doe
On 7/28/24 21:55, Charles Curley wrote: I have the latest testing netinst (20240722-03:17), and would like to install it on a virtual machine. I have a preseed file on a USB stick. As this is a virtual machine, the virtual hard drive is at vda, and the USB stick shows up at sda. When I go to loa

Testing CD preseed oops

2024-07-28 Thread Charles Curley
I have the latest testing netinst (20240722-03:17), and would like to install it on a virtual machine. I have a preseed file on a USB stick. As this is a virtual machine, the virtual hard drive is at vda, and the USB stick shows up at sda. When I go to load the debconf file, the installer doesn't

Re: CD/DVD is obsolete or deprecate at 2025?

2024-06-18 Thread James H. H. Lampert
On 6/18/24 10:01 AM, John Hasler wrote: JHHL writes: Some of us still prefer physical media Do you mean read-only media? All media are physical. No, I mean physical media as opposed to downloads. Application software, I've resigned myself to downloads, although as I said, I am not happy w

Re: CD/DVD is obsolete or deprecate at 2025?

2024-06-18 Thread Karen Lewellen
Linux. Second, I have two machines in this room both of which are less than 10 years old, that have cd DVD drives in them, and allow for those boot choices. after all, one might choose to enjoy music, or a film, without the need for bondage, and subscription factors, in those formats. My point

Re: CD/DVD is obsolete or deprecate at 2025?

2024-06-18 Thread John Hasler
JHHL writes: > Some of us still prefer physical media Do you mean read-only media? All media are physical. -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: CD/DVD is obsolete or deprecate at 2025?

2024-06-18 Thread James H. H. Lampert
system still has a CD drive, a CD-R drive, and a tape deck . . . but NOTHING that can deal with downloaded recordings unless burned onto physical media. And I LIKE IT THAT WAY. I will note that when my previous DOSbook failed, I needed PC-DOS 2000 on physical media in order to do the OS-insta

Re: CD/DVD is obsolete or deprecate at 2025?

2024-06-18 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, George at Clug wrote: > I have never been able to use .jigdo or understand jigdo, sadly I do not > know how to use them. ISOs I understand. Go by "cd" into a directory where you have enough space to store the ISO and try this: https://wiki.debian

Re: CD/DVD is obsolete or deprecate at 2025?

2024-06-18 Thread George at Clug
able Debian 12.5 amd64 ISO is "DLBD-1" with about 50 GB: > > https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/amd64/jigdo-dlbd/debian-12.5.0-amd64-DLBD-1.jigdo > > https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/amd64/jigdo-dlbd/debian-12.5.0-amd64-DLBD-1.template > It is possible to merg

Re: CD/DVD is obsolete or deprecate at 2025?

2024-06-18 Thread Thomas Schmitt
ose the risk to shoot the own foot. In contrast, one can hardly overwrite the system disk while burning an optical medium. The biggest available Debian 12.5 amd64 ISO is "DLBD-1" with about 50 GB: https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/amd64/jigdo-dlbd/debian-12.5.0-am

Re: CD/DVD is obsolete or deprecate at 2025?

2024-06-18 Thread George at Clug
h a moral disorder > and philosophically go on a historical journey into the past, so that I can > remember and dive deeply into memory during the times of using CDs. > > Today in my environment I can be faced with a CD only for scaring away > birds or as an intricate amulet on teena

Re: CD/DVD is obsolete or deprecate at 2025?

2024-06-18 Thread Stefan Monnier
> And some of the BIOSes of old PCs are not able to boot from USB... Indeed, tho I suspect those machines are 20 years old or more (at least, all my machines that are <20 years old support booting from a USB key drive, while of the two older machines I have (both 21 years old), one of them doesn't

Re: CD/DVD is obsolete or deprecate at 2025?

2024-06-18 Thread Stefan Monnier
>>> Is there a chance to change in next versions i.e. Debain 13 or other >>> versions an assembly specifically for a USB flash drive as primary >>> download? Do you think the time has come? When do you think this moment >>> will happen? >> AFAIK, all

Re: CD/DVD is obsolete or deprecate at 2025?

2024-06-18 Thread Detlef Vollmann
happen? AFAIK, all the so-called CD/DVD images work just fine when "burned" on a USB flash drive.  So I think the question is whether it's time to change the doc to stop suggesting that those images should be burned onto optical media. Stefan The ISO images will be ar

Re: CD/DVD is obsolete or deprecate at 2025?

2024-06-18 Thread Marco Moock
Am 18.06.2024 um 10:51:38 Uhr schrieb Joe: > No, no problems booting UEFI from USB stick. I need to do that to get > back to grub every time I boot Windows on my netbook, which isn't very > often. You should be able to change the boot order in the UEFI setup or inside of Windows. -- Gruß Marco

Re: CD/DVD is obsolete or deprecate at 2025?

2024-06-18 Thread Jean-François Bachelet
the so-called CD/DVD images work just fine when "burned" on a USB flash drive. So I think the question is whether it's time to change the doc to stop suggesting that those images should be burned onto optical media. Just a question : why should we ditch the cd or dvd just because

Re: CD/DVD is obsolete or deprecate at 2025?

2024-06-18 Thread Klaus Singvogel
Marco Moock wrote: > Most new computers don't have an optical disc drive, customers don't > request it and if they want one, they can buy one and add it. I've an optical disc drive with USB connection. I can easily move it to my new / next computer, when I upgrade, and don't need a place in the c

Re: CD/DVD is obsolete or deprecate at 2025?

2024-06-17 Thread Marco Moock
for a USB flash drive as primary > download? Do you think the time has come? When do you think this > moment will happen? The images provided are hybrid, they can be used on CD/DVD (if the image is small enough, e.g. netinstall) or USB thumb disks. Just write it there using dd. -- Gruß Marco

Re: CD/DVD is obsolete or deprecate at 2025?

2024-06-17 Thread Stefan Monnier
> No! Some of us want to keep using DVD and not be pushed away In which sense would it push you away. I'm not suggesting any change to the ISO files themselves. Only changes to the doc to clarify that these are images that are expected to be used on USB flash dirves (and they also work o

Re: CD/DVD is obsolete or deprecate at 2025?

2024-06-17 Thread Thomas Dineen
you think this moment will happen? AFAIK, all the so-called CD/DVD images work just fine when "burned" on a USB flash drive. So I think the question is whether it's time to change the doc to stop suggesting that those images should be burned onto optical media. Stefan

Re: CD/DVD is obsolete or deprecate at 2025?

2024-06-17 Thread jeremy ardley
On 18/6/24 09:00, Stefan Monnier wrote: Is there a chance to change in next versions i.e. Debain 13 or other versions an assembly specifically for a USB flash drive as primary download? Do you think the time has come? When do you think this moment will happen? AFAIK, all the so-called CD/DVD

Re: CD/DVD is obsolete or deprecate at 2025?

2024-06-17 Thread Stefan Monnier
> Is there a chance to change in next versions i.e. Debain 13 or other > versions an assembly specifically for a USB flash drive as primary > download? Do you think the time has come? When do you think this moment > will happen? AFAIK, all the so-called CD/DVD images work just fine

Re: CD/DVD is obsolete or deprecate at 2025?

2024-06-17 Thread Dan Ritter
Vitold S wrote: > Is there a chance to change in next versions i.e. Debain 13 or other > versions an assembly specifically for a USB flash drive as primary > download? Do you think the time has come? When do you think this moment > will happen? Several years ago. https://www.debian.org/distrib/n

Re: CD/DVD is obsolete or deprecate at 2025?

2024-06-17 Thread eben
On 6/17/24 19:44, Vitold S wrote: Today in my environment I can be faced with a CD only for scaring away birds or as an intricate amulet on teenagers’ backpacks as a reference to the era of their parents, but not for recording images. Let's say, is this my particular progressive experienc

CD/DVD is obsolete or deprecate at 2025?

2024-06-17 Thread Vitold S
, so that I can remember and dive deeply into memory during the times of using CDs. Today in my environment I can be faced with a CD only for scaring away birds or as an intricate amulet on teenagers’ backpacks as a reference to the era of their parents, but not for recording images. Let's sa

Re: Debian 12 live cd username and password problem

2024-03-05 Thread Jeffrey Walton
ect username and password so I can try it. > > I usually use 'sudo su -' from the command line. Sometimes it does not > prompt for a password. I don't recall if that's the case for a Debian > Live cd. > > A quick Google search also turns up {user,live} pairs. I

Re: Debian 12 live cd username and password problem

2024-03-05 Thread Махно
Hello. Default login and password for the Debian live is user / live 2024-03-05, an, 18:22 genti pp rašė: > > Hello! > I want to install debian 12 but I need to try it first. > Having Debian 12 live iso it asks me for username and password. Please tell > me the correct username and password so

Re: Debian 12 live cd username and password problem

2024-03-05 Thread Jeffrey Walton
from the command line. Sometimes it does not prompt for a password. I don't recall if that's the case for a Debian Live cd. A quick Google search also turns up {user,live} pairs. I'm not sure if it is correct because I don't see a _recent_ answer from debian.org. Also see <https:/

Re: Debian 12 live cd username and password problem

2024-03-05 Thread Kushal Kumaran
On Tue, Mar 05 2024 at 02:28:08 PM, genti pp wrote: > Hello! > I want to install debian 12 but I need to try it first. > Having Debian 12 live iso it asks me for username and password. Please tell > me the correct username and password so I can try it. > Thank you in advance! username: user passw

Debian 12 live cd username and password problem

2024-03-05 Thread genti pp
Hello! I want to install debian 12 but I need to try it first. Having Debian 12 live iso it asks me for username and password. Please tell me the correct username and password so I can try it. Thank you in advance!

Re: debian-cd baking process

2024-02-13 Thread Steve McIntyre
On Tue, Feb 13, 2024 at 06:12:47PM +0100, Kevin Price wrote: >Dear Steve: > >Am 18.01.24 um 00:37 schrieb Steve McIntyre: >> Kevin Price wrote: >>> I'm not quite sure where to address this to, > >> Argh, that's my code in the debian-cd package. "r

Re: debian-cd baking process

2024-02-13 Thread Kevin Price
Dear Steve: Am 18.01.24 um 00:37 schrieb Steve McIntyre: > Kevin Price wrote: >> I'm not quite sure where to address this to, > Argh, that's my code in the debian-cd package. "reportbug debian-cd" > should do the right thing... Thank you for your help, I s

Re: debian-cd baking process

2024-01-17 Thread Steve McIntyre
d. Maybe there's a bug already that I didn't find. Argh, that's my code in the debian-cd package. "reportbug debian-cd" should do the right thing... -- Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK.st...@einval.com Can't keep my eyes from the circling sky, Tongue-tied & twisted, Just an earth-bound misfit, I...

Re: debian-cd baking process

2024-01-17 Thread Michael Kjörling
uation, near the bottom of that page is a link to a list of pseudo-packages, which in turn includes "cdimage.debian.org — CD Image issues" which looks right for this. So you would file a bug with a Package: cdimage.debian.org The corresponding list of currently outstanding bugs

debian-cd baking process

2024-01-17 Thread Kevin Price
Hi all! I'm not quite sure where to address this to, but I'm certain this is a bug: If you download debian installer media, for instance debian-12.4.0-amd64-DLBD-2.iso, they prominenty include the files "README.txt" and "README.html". Those presumably somehow auto-generated README files say, in th

CD-DA sector addressing, was Re: playing CDROM music questions

2024-01-08 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, i cannot contribute much to the practical issues with playing music. But i'd like to clarify technical properties of CD-DA media: Nicolas George wrote: > compared to data CDs, audio CDs lack one layer of error-correcting code True. Another drawback is that CD-DA sectors cannot be

Re: Does reporting bugs from inside the live CD work?

2023-11-19 Thread Charles Curley
On Sun, 19 Nov 2023 08:56:11 +0100 dub...@grey-panther.net wrote: > I didn't get an email reply and the reportbug script said something > about the email being sent from "localhost" (since this is a LiveCD, > email accounts are not properly set up). Hence me suspecting that the > email never went

Re: Does reporting bugs from inside the live CD work?

2023-11-19 Thread dubser
On Sat, Nov 18, 2023 at 10:37 PM Charles Curley - charlescurley at charlescurley.com < charlescurley_at_charlescurley_com_futffkb...@simplelogin.co> wrote: > On Sat, 18 Nov 2023 22:07:46 +0100 > dub...@grey-panther.net wrote: > > > Anyway, I ran the reportbug program with the cdimage.debian.org >

Re: Does reporting bugs from inside the live CD work?

2023-11-18 Thread Charles Curley
On Sat, 18 Nov 2023 22:07:46 +0100 dub...@grey-panther.net wrote: > Anyway, I ran the reportbug program with the cdimage.debian.org > meta-package, as described at https://www.debian.org/Bugs/Reporting, > however my bug doesn't show up in the bugtracker, even though it has > been several days now

Does reporting bugs from inside the live CD work?

2023-11-18 Thread dubser
Hi all, I tried to report the bug that in the live Gnome CD, if one starts the installer, one is asked for a password, that is (as far as I can tell) not documented anywhere inside the CD: https://kdrive.infomaniak.com/app/share/545250/a4c87792-3ed2-4a70-bc1c-ae629842f9cb/preview/image/876245

Re: BAD signature from "Debian CD signing key [RESOLVED]

2023-08-15 Thread Juan R.D. Silva
On 2023-08-08 10:52 a.m., Matthieu Roquejoffre wrote: On 2023-08-08 at 03:37 p.m., Juan R.D. Silva wrote:> The problem is resolved. My fault. :-). Could you please explain to us what the cause of your issue was and how you solved it ? This could be useful for anyone facing a similar issue. The

Re: BAD signature from "Debian CD signing key [RESOLVED]

2023-08-08 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Tue, Aug 8, 2023 at 11:18 AM Matthieu Roquejoffre wrote: > > On 2023-08-08 at 03:37 p.m., Juan R.D. Silva wrote:> The problem is > resolved. My fault. :-). > Could you please explain to us what the cause of your issue was and how > you solved it ? > This could be useful for anyone facing a simi

Re: BAD signature from "Debian CD signing key [RESOLVED]

2023-08-08 Thread Matthieu Roquejoffre
On 2023-08-08 at 03:37 p.m., Juan R.D. Silva wrote:> The problem is resolved. My fault. :-). Could you please explain to us what the cause of your issue was and how you solved it ? This could be useful for anyone facing a similar issue. Relevant xkcd: https://xkcd.com/979/ -- Matthieu Roquejof

Re: BAD signature from "Debian CD signing key [RESOLVED]

2023-08-06 Thread Juan R.D. Silva
On 2023-08-06 9:28 p.m., Juan R.D. Silva wrote: I downloaded debian-12.1.0-amd64-DVD-1.iso, SHA512SUMS, and SHA512SUMS.sign files from https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/amd64/iso-dvd/. $ sha512sum -c SHA512SUMS gives me OK. So the image is fine. However verifying the signatures

Re: BAD signature from "Debian CD signing key [RESOLVED]

2023-08-06 Thread Juan R.D. Silva
On 2023-08-06 9:28 p.m., Juan R.D. Silva wrote: I downloaded debian-12.1.0-amd64-DVD-1.iso, SHA512SUMS, and SHA512SUMS.sign files from https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/amd64/iso-dvd/. $ sha512sum -c SHA512SUMS gives me OK. So the image is fine. However verifying the signatures

BAD signature from "Debian CD signing key

2023-08-06 Thread Juan R.D. Silva
I downloaded debian-12.1.0-amd64-DVD-1.iso, SHA512SUMS, and SHA512SUMS.sign files from https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/amd64/iso-dvd/. $ sha512sum -c SHA512SUMS gives me OK. So the image is fine. However verifying the signatures fails. $ gpg --verify SHA512SUMS.sign SHA512SUMS

Re: How does the bookworm amd64 netinst 738MB iso fit into a 700MB cd-r?

2023-06-19 Thread siso
forward to debian-12.1.0-amd64-netinst.iso. My stack of blank CD-Rs can serve their purpose again.

Re: How does the bookworm amd64 netinst 738MB iso fit into a 700MB cd-r?

2023-06-19 Thread siso
r hope for a netinst-CD ISO without firmware as companion of the > netinst DVD ISO with firmware. > Once there was the "businesscard CD" ISO with less than 50 MiB. Very handy > for xorriso regression tests. Yes, I hope so too. The 300+MB netinst CD isos of previous releases were a

Re: How does the bookworm amd64 netinst 738MB iso fit into a 700MB cd-r?

2023-06-19 Thread Steve McIntyre
j...@jretrading.com wrote: >On Mon, 19 Jun 2023 11:30:04 +0100 >Steve McIntyre wrote: > >> ssmcmlxx+debianu...@gmail.com wrote: >> >I tried to write the debian-12.0.0-amd64-netinst.iso to cd using >> >cdrskin and xorriso but they both refused my command. >>

Re: How does the bookworm amd64 netinst 738MB iso fit into a 700MB cd-r?

2023-06-19 Thread Charles Curley
On Mon, 19 Jun 2023 14:10:48 +0100 Joe wrote: > Tom used to get 1.7MB on a 1.44MB > floppy, If you mean Tom's rootboot, tomsrtbt: he got some of that "compression" by adding extra tracks beyond the 1.44MB. It is also possible to add an extra sector per track. (But not all floppy drives supported

Re: How does the bookworm amd64 netinst 738MB iso fit into a 700MB cd-r?

2023-06-19 Thread Steve McIntyre
ssmcmlxx+debianu...@gmail.com wrote: >I tried to write the debian-12.0.0-amd64-netinst.iso to cd using >cdrskin and xorriso but they both refused my command. Apologies, it's just too large at this point. Adding all the firmware made things grow too much. We have some ideas on how to fi

Re: How does the bookworm amd64 netinst 738MB iso fit into a 700MB cd-r?

2023-06-19 Thread Pierre Tomon
The mini.iso image is 62M: https://www.debian.org/distrib/netinst#verysmall

Re: How does the bookworm amd64 netinst 738MB iso fit into a 700MB cd-r?

2023-06-19 Thread mick.crane
On 2023-06-18 23:48, Thomas Schmitt wrote: Once there was the "businesscard CD" ISO with less than 50 MiB. Very handy for xorriso regression tests. 30 something Mb, Slitaz would fit on them. mick

Re: How does the bookworm amd64 netinst 738MB iso fit into a 700MB cd-r?

2023-06-19 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Joe wrote: > Just a thought: Knoppix has never considered 700MB much of a limit. > "Because of its transparent decompression, up to 2 gigabyes of > executable software can be present on a CD, and up to 10GB on a > single-layered DVD." Debian ISOs have all their big

Re: How does the bookworm amd64 netinst 738MB iso fit into a 700MB cd-r?

2023-06-19 Thread Joe
t; > blocks. > > > > Nevertheless it most probably would not have worked, because 36 MiB > > of overburning is just too much for a "700 MB" CD. > > The bug saved my drive fortunately. Yay for that. > > > > And there it went, one good cd. FATAL ind

Re: How does the bookworm amd64 netinst 738MB iso fit into a 700MB cd-r?

2023-06-18 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, siso wrote: > The bug saved my drive fortunately. Yay for that. I have no report of persistent damage. But drives can take offense from overburning and then need a power cycle. > I wonder if we are seeing the last of CD-R as a Debian install medium. It seems not to be intented f

Re: How does the bookworm amd64 netinst 738MB iso fit into a 700MB cd-r?

2023-06-18 Thread siso
f > overburning is just too much for a "700 MB" CD. The bug saved my drive fortunately. Yay for that. > > And there it went, one good cd. FATAL indeed. > > Sorry for that. Don't worry about it. It was my poor attempt at tongue-in-cheek humour :). Just lost one C

Re: How does the bookworm amd64 netinst 738MB iso fit into a 700MB cd-r?

2023-06-18 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, siso wrote: > I tried to write the debian-12.0.0-amd64-netinst.iso to cd using > cdrskin and xorriso but they both refused my command. Righteously. The ISO is just too large for "700 MB" CDs. In https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1038440 i wrote a compariso

How does the bookworm amd64 netinst 738MB iso fit into a 700MB cd-r?

2023-06-18 Thread siso
I tried to write the debian-12.0.0-amd64-netinst.iso to cd using cdrskin and xorriso but they both refused my command. user@debian:~$ cdrskin -v dev=/dev/sr0 -sao debian-12.0.0-amd64-netinst.iso cdrskin 1.5.4 : limited cdrecord compatibility wrapper for libburn cdrskin: verbosity level : 1

Re: apt-cdrom: How do I use the flash drive as a CD-ROM to install software in Debian 12?

2023-06-16 Thread David Wright
kworm InRelease > Err:2 cdrom://[Debian GNU/Linux 12.0.0 _Bookworm_ - Official amd64 DVD > Binary-1 with firmware 20230610-10:23"] bookworm Release > Please use apt-cdrom to make this CD-ROM recognized by APT. apt-get update > cannot be used to add new CD-ROMs. > Reading pac

apt-cdrom: How do I use the flash drive as a CD-ROM to install software in Debian 12?

2023-06-15 Thread Totoro
e, tty1 I re-inserted the USB drive and based on the guide titled Use ISO image as CD-ROM repository in Ubuntu (url: https://techpiezo.com/linux/use-iso-image-as-cd-rom-repository-in-ubuntu/), I did the following: 1. sudo mkdir -p /mnt/mount-iso 2. sudo mount -o loop /dev/sda1 /mnt/mount-iso 3

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