On Mi, 05 sep 12, 01:49:05, lee wrote:
>
> > For example if you watch DVD's on your computer you will need
> > libdvdcss2 which isn't available in Debian.
>
> Yeah what's the replacement for that?
There is none that I know of.
Kind regards,
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Chris Bannister writes:
> On Tue, Sep 04, 2012 at 03:39:59PM +0200, lee wrote:
>> Chris Bannister writes:
>> > Read this:
>> > http://wiki.debian.org/DebianMultimedia/FAQ
>> >
>> > Also, just found this:
>> > http://blogs.dailynews.com/click/2012/06/debian-project-leader-stefano.html
>>
>> That
On Tue, Sep 04, 2012 at 07:29:20PM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> On Mi, 05 sep 12, 00:04:24, Chris Bannister wrote:
> > On Tue, Sep 04, 2012 at 07:31:34AM +0200, lee wrote:
> >
> > > And how about the ones that aren't available in Debian?
> >
> > You can build them yourself using the build depen
On Tue, Sep 04, 2012 at 03:39:59PM +0200, lee wrote:
> Chris Bannister writes:
> > Read this:
> > http://wiki.debian.org/DebianMultimedia/FAQ
> >
> > Also, just found this:
> > http://blogs.dailynews.com/click/2012/06/debian-project-leader-stefano.html
>
> That's interesting --- the question is w
Chris Bannister writes:
> On Tue, Sep 04, 2012 at 07:31:34AM +0200, lee wrote:
>> When they are only different in version, then what is bad about having
>> packages from Debian-multimedia, and why should I remove them?
>
> Read this:
> http://wiki.debian.org/DebianMultimedia/FAQ
>
> Also, just fo
On Mi, 05 sep 12, 00:04:24, Chris Bannister wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 04, 2012 at 07:31:34AM +0200, lee wrote:
>
> > And how about the ones that aren't available in Debian?
>
> You can build them yourself using the build dependencies from Debian.
> If you go that route then that is when you'll need th
On Tue, Sep 04, 2012 at 07:31:34AM +0200, lee wrote:
> When they are only different in version, then what is bad about having
> packages from Debian-multimedia, and why should I remove them?
Read this:
http://wiki.debian.org/DebianMultimedia/FAQ
Also, just found this:
http://blogs.dailynews.com/c
Camaleón writes:
> On Mon, 03 Sep 2012 18:20:35 +0200, lee wrote:
>> In the meantime, I have a working system without having to worry about
>> keeping track of self-installed software and dependency problems that
>> might arise from it. Just don't circumvent the package management --- I
>> tried
Andrei POPESCU writes:
> On Lu, 03 sep 12, 18:57:26, lee wrote:
>> Andrei POPESCU writes:
>>
>> > This is your responsibility as the administrator of your system.
>> > There are various methods to do it, it all depends on preferences.
>>
>> Interesting, which methods are there?
>
> Since you
Andrei POPESCU writes:
> On Lu, 03 sep 12, 16:22:25, lee wrote:
>>
>> Ok, how do I find out which packages from Debian-MM are actually
>> installed and what their Debian-MM-team replacements are?
>
> aptitude search ~S~i~OMultimedia
>
> Will show you which packages you have from deb-multimed
On Lu, 03 sep 12, 16:22:25, lee wrote:
>
> Ok, how do I find out which packages from Debian-MM are actually
> installed and what their Debian-MM-team replacements are?
aptitude search ~S~i~OMultimedia
Will show you which packages you have from deb-multimedia.org. However,
the Debian replace
On Lu, 03 sep 12, 17:45:11, Camaleón wrote:
>
> I think you still don't understand what Debian releases are for: you
> simply can't have the four branches (stable/testing/sid/experimental)
> enabled by default and wait for the updater do its job "automagically". I
> have little experience with
On Mon, 03 Sep 2012 18:20:35 +0200, lee wrote:
> Camaleón writes:
(...)
>>> What's wrong with it? Aptitude installs packages from testing by
>>> default and installs packages from unstable or experimental when I
>>> tell it to, which is what I want.
>>
>> Nothing wrong "per se" but when using s
On Lu, 03 sep 12, 18:57:26, lee wrote:
> Andrei POPESCU writes:
>
> > This is your responsibility as the administrator of your system.
> > There are various methods to do it, it all depends on preferences.
>
> Interesting, which methods are there?
Since you only install select packages from un
Andrei POPESCU writes:
> On Lu, 03 sep 12, 15:11:55, lee wrote:
>> I wish there was a good way to keep track of all these changes ... The
>> admin would enter why some change was performed, and the package
>
> This is your responsibility as the administrator of your system. There
> are various m
Chris Bannister writes:
> On Sun, Sep 02, 2012 at 07:31:02PM +0200, lee wrote:
>> packages from these when needed? And if I removed Debian multimedia, I
>> would miss a lot of packages.
>
> You might be suprised. The Debian Multimedia team is constantly
> improving Debian's multimedia support.
Camaleón writes:
> On Sun, 02 Sep 2012 19:31:02 +0200, lee wrote:
>
>> Camaleón writes:
>>
Some packages currently installed may be from unstable or experimental
because I needed more recent versions of them --- IIRC, the mumble
ones are. I would want to keep those until testing
On Lu, 03 sep 12, 15:11:55, lee wrote:
> Andrei POPESCU writes:
>
> > On Du, 02 sep 12, 16:42:30, lee wrote:
> >> downgrade. I'm surprised that there are so many packages from unstable
> >> installed, though. Yet that will fix itself over time when the packages
> >> now in unstable make it into t
On Sun, 02 Sep 2012 19:31:02 +0200, lee wrote:
> Camaleón writes:
>
>>> Some packages currently installed may be from unstable or experimental
>>> because I needed more recent versions of them --- IIRC, the mumble
>>> ones are. I would want to keep those until testing catches up.
>>
>> Then this
Andrei POPESCU writes:
> On Du, 02 sep 12, 16:42:30, lee wrote:
>> downgrade. I'm surprised that there are so many packages from unstable
>> installed, though. Yet that will fix itself over time when the packages
>> now in unstable make it into testing, I guess.
>
> This will not happen until aft
On Sun, Sep 02, 2012 at 07:31:02PM +0200, lee wrote:
> packages from these when needed? And if I removed Debian multimedia, I
> would miss a lot of packages.
You might be suprised. The Debian Multimedia team is constantly
improving Debian's multimedia support.
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On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 12:06:30PM -0500, Charles Kroeger wrote:
> On Wed, 29 Aug 2012 17:50:02 +0200
> Camaleón wrote:
>
> > I experienced no issues with the dist-upgrade.
>
> In my troubles with that I'm sure they installed alsa-base with everything
> muted.
I think I remember reading somewh
On Du, 02 sep 12, 16:42:30, lee wrote:
> The Wanderer writes:
> >
> > No. sid is the permanent name of *un*stable. Current stable is named
> > squeeze.
>
> Ah ok --- I'm bad with remembering names and stopped caring about how
> the releases are called a long time ago. It would explain the attemp
Camaleón writes:
>> Some packages currently installed may be from unstable or experimental
>> because I needed more recent versions of them --- IIRC, the mumble ones
>> are. I would want to keep those until testing catches up.
>
> Then this can be the culprit for all your mess unless you had conf
On 9/2/2012 11:49 AM, John Hasler wrote:
The Wanderer writes:
Thus, the newest packages are always in sid. (Or, in some cases,
possibly in experimental; I've never quite gotten the exact function
of experimental figured out.)
The function of Experimental is experimentation. Packages uploaded
The Wanderer writes:
> Thus, the newest packages are always in sid. (Or, in some cases,
> possibly in experimental; I've never quite gotten the exact function
> of experimental figured out.)
The function of Experimental is experimentation. Packages uploaded to
it stay there until removed or super
The Wanderer writes:
> On 09/02/2012 06:24 AM, lee wrote:
>
>> Andrei POPESCU writes:
>>
>>> On Du, 02 sep 12, 07:44:07, lee wrote:
See below: that would remove linux-sound-base, upgrade 52 packages and
downgrade 148 packages.
>>>
>>> I picked a few of the to-be-downgraded package
On Sun, 02 Sep 2012 12:24:42 +0200, lee wrote:
> Sid is stable?
Dude... what a question for a user running testing :-)
Sid is the codename for unstable.
> I want to run testing and not stable, and shouldn't the
> packages in testing not be newer than the ones in Sid?
Sid has the most updated
On 09/02/2012 06:24 AM, lee wrote:
Andrei POPESCU writes:
On Du, 02 sep 12, 07:44:07, lee wrote:
See below: that would remove linux-sound-base, upgrade 52 packages and
downgrade 148 packages.
I picked a few of the to-be-downgraded packages and all of them were from
sid. Do you want to run
Andrei POPESCU writes:
> On Du, 02 sep 12, 07:44:07, lee wrote:
>>
>> See below: that would remove linux-sound-base, upgrade 52 packages and
>> downgrade 148 packages.
>
> I picked a few of the to-be-downgraded packages and all of them were
> from sid. Do you want to run sid or wheezy?
Sid is
On Du, 02 sep 12, 07:44:07, lee wrote:
>
> See below: that would remove linux-sound-base, upgrade 52 packages and
> downgrade 148 packages.
I picked a few of the to-be-downgraded packages and all of them were
from sid. Do you want to run sid or wheezy? There is at least one
(vsftpd) which I don
Mark Allums writes:
> On 9/2/2012 12:44 AM, lee wrote:
>> Camaleón writes:
>>
>>> On Sat, 01 Sep 2012 09:38:42 +0200, lee wrote:
>>>
Camaleón writes:
>>>
>> http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/a/alsa-base/alsa-base_1.0.25+2+nmu1/changelog
>>>
>>> (...)
>>>
According to
Andrei POPESCU writes:
> On Du, 02 sep 12, 07:28:23, lee wrote:
>>
>> ,
>> | lee@yun:~$ aptitude show alsa-base
>> | Paket: alsa-base
>> | Zustand: Installiert
>> | Automatisch installiert: nein
>> | Version: 1.0.23+dfsg-4
>
> At least the .at. mirror has 1.0.25+2+nmu2 for wheezy.
That vers
On Du, 02 sep 12, 07:28:23, lee wrote:
>
> ,
> | lee@yun:~$ aptitude show alsa-base
> | Paket: alsa-base
> | Zustand: Installiert
> | Automatisch installiert: nein
> | Version: 1.0.23+dfsg-4
At least the .at. mirror has 1.0.25+2+nmu2 for wheezy.
Kind regards,
Andrei
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On 9/2/2012 12:44 AM, lee wrote:
Camaleón writes:
On Sat, 01 Sep 2012 09:38:42 +0200, lee wrote:
Camaleón writes:
http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/a/alsa-base/alsa-base_1.0.25+2+nmu1/changelog
(...)
According to aptitude, alsa-base depends on linux-sound-base and
confl
Camaleón writes:
> On Sat, 01 Sep 2012 09:38:42 +0200, lee wrote:
>
>> Camaleón writes:
>
http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/a/alsa-base/alsa-base_1.0.25+2+nmu1/changelog
>
> (...)
>
>> According to aptitude, alsa-base depends on linux-sound-base and
>> conflicts with linux-sou
Dom writes:
> On 01/09/12 14:35, lee wrote:
>> Joe writes:
>>
>>> On Sat, 01 Sep 2012 09:38:42 +0200
>>> lee wrote:
>>>
Camaleón writes:
> On Wed, 22 Aug 2012 13:56:29 -0500, Charles Kroeger wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 22 Aug 2012 17:20:02 +0200
>> Camaleón wrote:
>
On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 04:19:15PM -0500, Charles Kroeger wrote:
> On Thu, 30 Aug 2012 19:50:02 +0200
> Ralf Mardorf wrote:
>
> > "A towel, it says, is about the most massively useful thing
>
> Exactly Ralf..I'm always wearing a towel instead of my sarong that often goes
> missing. You see it's
On Sat, 01 Sep 2012 15:35:19 +0200
lee wrote:
Hello lee,
>The problem came up maybe a week ago and I'm waiting since and still
>have it. It probably won't be fixed ...
I recall reading about your problems. When I performed the upgrade on
my testing system, I was a little apprehensive. Howeve
On 01/09/12 14:35, lee wrote:
Joe writes:
On Sat, 01 Sep 2012 09:38:42 +0200
lee wrote:
Camaleón writes:
On Wed, 22 Aug 2012 13:56:29 -0500, Charles Kroeger wrote:
On Wed, 22 Aug 2012 17:20:02 +0200
Camaleón wrote:
(...)
http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/a/alsa-base/
On Sat, 01 Sep 2012 09:38:42 +0200, lee wrote:
> Camaleón writes:
>>> http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/a/alsa-base/alsa-base_1.0.25+2+nmu1/changelog
(...)
> According to aptitude, alsa-base depends on linux-sound-base and
> conflicts with linux-sound-base. So you either have to
Joe writes:
> On Sat, 01 Sep 2012 09:38:42 +0200
> lee wrote:
>
>> Camaleón writes:
>>
>> > On Wed, 22 Aug 2012 13:56:29 -0500, Charles Kroeger wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Wed, 22 Aug 2012 17:20:02 +0200
>> >> Camaleón wrote:
>> >
>> > (...)
>> >
>> >> http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/ma
On Sat, 01 Sep 2012 09:38:42 +0200
lee wrote:
> Camaleón writes:
>
> > On Wed, 22 Aug 2012 13:56:29 -0500, Charles Kroeger wrote:
> >
> >> On Wed, 22 Aug 2012 17:20:02 +0200
> >> Camaleón wrote:
> >
> > (...)
> >
> >> http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/a/alsa-base/alsa-base_1.0.
Camaleón writes:
> On Wed, 22 Aug 2012 13:56:29 -0500, Charles Kroeger wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 22 Aug 2012 17:20:02 +0200
>> Camaleón wrote:
>
> (...)
>
>> http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/a/alsa-base/alsa-base_1.0.25+2+nmu1/changelog
>>>* Drop linux-sound-base: OSS was removed
On Thu, 30 Aug 2012 19:50:02 +0200
Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> "A towel, it says, is about the most massively useful thing
Exactly Ralf..I'm always wearing a towel instead of my sarong that often goes
missing. You see it's true, a man who knows where his towel is, is never
exposed.
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On Thu, 2012-08-30 at 12:15 -0500, Charles Kroeger wrote:
> On Mon, 27 Aug 2012 16:10:02 +0200
> Camaleón wrote:
>
> >Well, you can "unmute" any of the detected input/outputs by this command
> >that can be run on system boot:
>
> > amixer set PCM 100 unmute
>
> >Not sure if this will help in
On Mon, 27 Aug 2012 16:10:02 +0200
Camaleón wrote:
>Well, you can "unmute" any of the detected input/outputs by this command
>that can be run on system boot:
> amixer set PCM 100 unmute
>Not sure if this will help in your case, though... maybe using "alsactl"
>to store the volume/unmuted opt
On Wed, 29 Aug 2012 17:50:02 +0200
Camaleón wrote:
> I experienced no issues with the dist-upgrade.
In my troubles with that I'm sure they installed alsa-base with everything
muted.
Sound for me only returned after messing about with the alsamixergui keyboard
controls of which some control this
El 2012-08-27 a las 20:14 -0500, Peter Murdoch escribió:
(resending to the list)
> Greetings,
>
> I am running Debian wheezy and have noticed the latest update introduces
> the issue described in
> http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2012/08/msg01566.html.
>
> I have not performed the upgrade a
On Sun, 26 Aug 2012 21:41:46 -0500, Charles Kroeger wrote:
> On Fri, 24 Aug 2012 16:10:03 +0200
> Camaleón wrote:
>
>> If package "linux-sound-base" has been dropped and this generates an
>> error in your system, you better report it,
>
> Thanks for this advice maybe I should report that when r
On Fri, 24 Aug 2012 16:10:03 +0200
Camaleón wrote:
> If package "linux-sound-base" has been dropped and this generates an
> error in your system, you better report it,
Thanks for this advice maybe I should report that when removing the
linux-sound-base and replacing it with alsa-base something
On Wed, 22 Aug 2012 13:56:29 -0500, Charles Kroeger wrote:
> On Wed, 22 Aug 2012 17:20:02 +0200
> Camaleón wrote:
(...)
> http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/a/alsa-base/alsa-base_1.0.25+2+nmu1/changelog
>>* Drop linux-sound-base: OSS was removed from the kernel
>>pre-squee
On Thu, 23 Aug 2012 08:10:01 +0200
Charles Kroeger wrote:
> Joe wrote:
>
> > Has a mixer volume level been reset, the wrong sound card selected,
>
> No, the mixer hasn't been changed and I only have the one sound card
Every good fidgeter deserves favor..
By messing with the keyboard controls
Hello Charles,
From: Charles Kroeger
Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2012 00:49:53 -0500
> I don't use Gnome or pulseaudio, removed pulseaudio last year.
>
> It's a damn mystery.
Appears this may also be related to
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=585149
which is unresolved at this time
On Wed, 22 Aug 2012 22:00:03 +0200
Joe wrote:
> Has a mixer volume level been reset, the wrong sound card selected,
No, the mixer hasn't been changed and I only have the one sound card
thanks for your suggestion.
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Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> Did you also upgrade from GNOME2 to GNOME3? Perhaps you didn't run
> pulseaudio and now you do run pulseaudio?
I don't use Gnome or pulseaudio, removed pulseaudio last year.
It's a damn mystery.
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On Wed, 2012-08-22 at 20:57 +0100, Joe wrote:
> On Wed, 22 Aug 2012 00:24:46 -0500
> Charles Kroeger wrote:
>
> > linux-sound-base gets removed on the upgrade and replaced with
> > alsa-base
> >
> > but no sound.
> >
> > If linux-sound-base is reinstalled then alsa-base is removed
> >
> > but
On Wed, 22 Aug 2012 00:24:46 -0500
Charles Kroeger wrote:
> linux-sound-base gets removed on the upgrade and replaced with
> alsa-base
>
> but no sound.
>
> If linux-sound-base is reinstalled then alsa-base is removed
>
> but still no sound
>
I don't have an answer to this, but I let it go a
On Wed, 22 Aug 2012 17:20:02 +0200
Camaleón wrote:
>> On Wed, 22 Aug 2012 00:24:46 -0500, Charles Kroeger wrote:
>> linux-sound-base gets removed on the upgrade and replaced with alsa-base
> What "upgrade" are you referring to? Sid?
Yes, sid, AKA unstable: alsa-base 1.0.25+2+nmu1
> Mmmm, it
On Wed, 22 Aug 2012 00:24:46 -0500, Charles Kroeger wrote:
> linux-sound-base gets removed on the upgrade and replaced with alsa-base
What "upgrade" are you referring to? Sid?
> but no sound.
>
> If linux-sound-base is reinstalled then alsa-base is removed
>
> but still no sound
Mmmm, it has
linux-sound-base gets removed on the upgrade and replaced with alsa-base
but no sound.
If linux-sound-base is reinstalled then alsa-base is removed
but still no sound
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