Re: X Window : Newbie

2003-03-25 Thread Kent West
Van Wyk Leroux, Mr wrote: Hi there I'm trying to run startx from the console after I logged in as a normal user.This doesn't seem to work.I have already run XF86Config as root, and if I do startx from root, X Windows starts up fine.Any idea what I'm doing wrong? Does a normal user use the same

Re: Rant (was Re: X Window : Newbie)

2003-03-23 Thread cr
On Sunday 23 March 2003 17:56, Karsten M. Self wrote: > > Is this so? If I type 'startx' as me (non-root) then X won't start > > unless I go change some permissions? (presumably, having opened a > > console window from the X login and gone su root to do so) > > If you're saying you can't start

Re: Rant (was Re: X Window : Newbie)

2003-03-22 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Thu, Mar 20, 2003 at 09:12:13AM +1200, cr ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > On Thursday 20 March 2003 00:55, Joerg Johannes wrote: > > (snips) > > > You're right. But still it is non-intuitive that a regular user has not > > the rights to "startx" by default. man "XF86Config" and "man startx" > > w

Re: Rant (was Re: X Window : Newbie)

2003-03-21 Thread Pigeon
On Thu, Mar 20, 2003 at 06:43:49AM +0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Wed, 19 Mar 2003 13:09:50 -0600, > Gianfranco Berardi wrote: > > [...] > > > Unfortunately, people need to be told to RTFM everyday, because > > everyday new people come and don't realize that they can RTFM. > > Pointing peop

Re: Rant (was Re: X Window : Newbie)

2003-03-20 Thread csj
On Wed, 19 Mar 2003 13:09:50 -0600, Gianfranco Berardi wrote: [...] > Unfortunately, people need to be told to RTFM everyday, because > everyday new people come and don't realize that they can RTFM. > Pointing people to Google or to the source is a nice bit of > convenience. How many people grew

Re: Rant (was Re: X Window : Newbie)

2003-03-20 Thread Rob Weir
On Wed, Mar 19, 2003 at 10:42:27AM -0800, Wendell Cochran wrote: [snip] Awww, c'mon. If you're going rant about list etiquette, don't break the thread. :-) -- Rob Weir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>http://ertius.org/ pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Rant (was Re: X Window : Newbie)

2003-03-20 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, Mar 20, 2003 at 02:00:00AM -0600, Gianfranco Berardi wrote: > Again, it isn't an excuse, but especially on mailing lists, protocol and > guidelines for posting aren't usually read by people who want to ask for > help on something. This is so

Re: Rant (was Re: X Window : Newbie)

2003-03-20 Thread cr
On Thursday 20 March 2003 00:55, Joerg Johannes wrote: (snips) > You're right. But still it is non-intuitive that a regular user has not > the rights to "startx" by default. man "XF86Config" and "man startx" > won't tell you how to allow it to a normal user. Is this so? If I type 'startx' as m

Re: Rant (was Re: X Window : Newbie)

2003-03-20 Thread Gianfranco Berardi
Paul Johnson wrote: There's a couple false assumptions here: User lists aren't generally comprised of personal friends, but rather loose collectives of people who, for the most part, aren't more than long-distance acquaintences. Second, spoken language is vastly different from written language. You

Re: Rant (was Re: X Window : Newbie)

2003-03-19 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Mar 19, 2003 at 01:09:50PM -0600, Gianfranco Berardi wrote: > Of course, if a person is a newbie and needs help, they probably aren't > used to the protocol for asking for help. Yes, I do remember my newbie days. However, after the fourth or

Re: Rant (was Re: X Window : Newbie)

2003-03-19 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Mar 19, 2003 at 10:42:27AM -0800, Wendell Cochran wrote: > I receive way more e-mail than I have time for. So far my filters > are only mental, but configuration of grey cells definitely flags > `newbie', `please help', & any vacuity like `Str

Re: Rant (was Re: X Window : Newbie)

2003-03-19 Thread Gianfranco Berardi
Wendell Cochran wrote: I receive way more e-mail than I have time for. So far my filters are only mental, but configuration of grey cells definitely flags `newbie', `please help', & any vacuity like `Strange Problem with Debian' -- & I skip on to prospects more promising. Oh, you say I'm missing s

Re: Rant (was Re: X Window : Newbie)

2003-03-19 Thread Wendell Cochran
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 07:09:53 -0800 From: Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On Wed, Mar 19, 2003 at 01:55:12PM +0100, Joerg Johannes wrote: [snip] >> Some of those "please help" mails are very interesting, and occasionally > those guys really need help. [snip] > If the writer can't be bothered

Re: Rant (was Re: X Window : Newbie)

2003-03-19 Thread nate
Paul Johnson said: > Am I wrong in presuming that it's safe to assume people on this list have > at least a third grade education, or is that way too much to ask? ooga booga!! nate -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTE

Re: Rant (was Re: X Window : Newbie)

2003-03-19 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Mar 19, 2003 at 01:55:12PM +0100, Joerg Johannes wrote: > Did we have a bad night? I'm not used to hear such ranting from you... Kind of. Part of it is d-u inspired, I'm seeing a lot more persistent ignorance than normal tonight. It didn't h

Rant (was Re: X Window : Newbie)

2003-03-19 Thread Joerg Johannes
Hi Paul Did we have a bad night? I'm not used to hear such ranting from you... Paul Johnson wrote: Bad newbie! How can you judge! You don't even know him! 1) You just asked the *SAME* question (or at least the same subject) 30 minutes ago. Do you honestly expect an answer at 4AM on a week

Re: X Window : Newbie

2003-03-19 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Mar 19, 2003 at 12:56:52PM +0200, Van Wyk Leroux, Mr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm trying to run startx from the console after I logged in as a normal user.This > doesn't seem to work.I have already run XF86Config as root, and if I do start

X Window : Newbie

2003-03-19 Thread Van Wyk Leroux, Mr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Hi there I'm trying to run startx from the console after I logged in as a normal user.This doesn't seem to work.I have already run XF86Config as root, and if I do startx from root, X Windows starts up fine.Any idea what I'm doing wrong? Does a normal user use the same XF86Config file as root? R