Re: udev creates wrong symlink from rule after upgrade to bookworm

2023-10-23 Thread David Wright
On Sun 22 Oct 2023 at 10:17:35 (-0700), pe...@easthope.ca wrote: > Appears that the failure reported by Karl Schmidt occurred when two > devices matched the rule. > https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1040445 > > Similar erroneous result here with only one matching device. Details

Re: udev creates wrong symlink from rule after upgrade to bookworm

2023-10-22 Thread peter
Hi, Appears that the failure reported by Karl Schmidt occurred when two devices matched the rule. https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1040445 Similar erroneous result here with only one matching device. Details below. Ideas? Thx, ... P. ==

Re: udev applied to SDHC card. Two systems compared.

2022-01-02 Thread David Wright
On Sun 26 Dec 2021 at 21:32:20 (-0800), pe...@easthope.ca wrote: > Any ideas about why udev assigns a symlink on the desktop system and > not on the Sharp Mebius laptop? Because the slots you're pushing them into are of a different type. > Desktop machine. > Pertinent lines in /etc/udev/rules.d

Re: udev applied to SDHC card. Two systems compared.

2021-12-29 Thread peter
From: "Alexander V. Makartsev" Date: Wed, 29 Dec 2021 03:49:14 +0500 > My point was, you could've used better or more identifiers to > distinguish between devices, so there is no other device could ever > interfere. For example, what will happen if you plug in another drive > with the s

Re: udev applied to SDHC card. Two systems compared.

2021-12-28 Thread Alexander V. Makartsev
On 29.12.2021 01:59, pe...@easthope.ca wrote: From: "Alexander V. Makartsev" Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2021 22:16:04 +0500 It is always better to make udev rules to identify target devices properly. Thanks Alexander. Definitely my intention. 'KERNEL=="sd?1"' identifies two volumes, /dev/sd

Re: udev applied to SDHC card. Two systems compared.

2021-12-28 Thread peter
From: "Alexander V. Makartsev" Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2021 22:16:04 +0500 > It is always better to make udev rules to identify target devices properly. Thanks Alexander. Definitely my intention. 'KERNEL=="sd?1"' identifies two volumes, /dev/sda1 and /dev/sdb1. /dev/sda1 is approximately 6 G

Re: udev applied to SDHC card. Two systems compared.

2021-12-27 Thread Alexander V. Makartsev
On 27.12.2021 10:32, pe...@easthope.ca wrote: Any ideas about why udev assigns a symlink on the desktop system and not on the Sharp Mebius laptop? I think it is impossible to answer that question without actually looking at these systems. Perhaps it is a problem of poorly written rule that doesn

Re: udev alzheimers

2020-05-21 Thread tomas
On Thu, May 21, 2020 at 12:25:51PM -0700, John Conover wrote: > > David Wright writes: > > On Thu 21 May 2020 at 13:02:49 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote: > > > On Thursday 21 May 2020 10:10:10 to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > > On Thu, May 21, 2020 at 08:23:55AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > > > >

Re: udev alzheimers

2020-05-21 Thread David Wright
On Thu 21 May 2020 at 13:26:03 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote: > On Thursday 21 May 2020 12:11:42 David Wright wrote: > > On Thu 21 May 2020 at 08:23:55 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote: > > > Since updating to stretch, udev has been randomly swapping ttyUSB0 > > > and ttyUSB1 and sometimes ttyUSB2 around,

Re: udev alzheimers

2020-05-21 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 21 May 2020 15:25:51 John Conover wrote: > David Wright writes: > > On Thu 21 May 2020 at 13:02:49 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote: > > > On Thursday 21 May 2020 10:10:10 to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > > On Thu, May 21, 2020 at 08:23:55AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > > Since updating

Re: udev alzheimers

2020-05-21 Thread John Conover
David Wright writes: > On Thu 21 May 2020 at 13:02:49 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Thursday 21 May 2020 10:10:10 to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > On Thu, May 21, 2020 at 08:23:55AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > > > > > Since updating to stretch, udev has been randomly swapping ttyUSB0 >

Re: udev alzheimers

2020-05-21 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 21 May 2020 14:13:29 David Wright wrote: > On Thu 21 May 2020 at 13:02:49 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Thursday 21 May 2020 10:10:10 to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > On Thu, May 21, 2020 at 08:23:55AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > Since updating to stretch, udev has been rando

Re: udev alzheimers

2020-05-21 Thread David Wright
On Thu 21 May 2020 at 13:02:49 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote: > On Thursday 21 May 2020 10:10:10 to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > On Thu, May 21, 2020 at 08:23:55AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > > > Since updating to stretch, udev has been randomly swapping ttyUSB0 > > > and ttyUSB1 and sometimes tty

Re: udev alzheimers

2020-05-21 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 21 May 2020 12:11:42 David Wright wrote: > On Thu 21 May 2020 at 08:23:55 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote: > > Since updating to stretch, udev has been randomly swapping ttyUSB0 > > and ttyUSB1 and sometimes ttyUSB2 around, confusing the hell out of > > heyu, a trs-80-coco3, and occasional

Re: udev alzheimers

2020-05-21 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 21 May 2020 10:10:10 to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Thu, May 21, 2020 at 08:23:55AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > greetings all; > > > > Since updating to stretch, udev has been randomly swapping ttyUSB0 > > and ttyUSB1 and sometimes ttyUSB2 around, confusing the hell out of > > heyu, a

Re: udev alzheimers

2020-05-21 Thread David Wright
On Thu 21 May 2020 at 08:23:55 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote: > > Since updating to stretch, udev has been randomly swapping ttyUSB0 and > ttyUSB1 and sometimes ttyUSB2 around, confusing the hell out of heyu, a > trs-80-coco3, and occasionally even nut. Nut (apc ups) is not on a > usb-serial ada

Re: udev alzheimers

2020-05-21 Thread tomas
On Thu, May 21, 2020 at 08:23:55AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > greetings all; > > Since updating to stretch, udev has been randomly swapping ttyUSB0 and > ttyUSB1 and sometimes ttyUSB2 around, confusing the hell out of heyu, a > trs-80-coco3, and occasionally even nut. Nut (apc ups) is not on

Re: udev alzheimers

2020-05-21 Thread Dan Ritter
Gene Heskett wrote: > greetings all; > > Since updating to stretch, udev has been randomly swapping ttyUSB0 and > ttyUSB1 and sometimes ttyUSB2 around, confusing the hell out of heyu, a > trs-80-coco3, and occasionally even nut. Nut (apc ups) is not on a > usb-serial adapter, it just a usb ca

Re: udev being an ass

2019-08-30 Thread Brian
On Fri 30 Aug 2019 at 07:47:09 -, Curt wrote: > On 2019-08-28, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > If you can't say something constructive Brian, please just stfu. I won't > > claim to speak for the rest of the list, but I am damned tired of your > > negative attitude. You have, I assume the same c

Re: udev being an ass

2019-08-30 Thread Larry Martell
On Thu, Aug 29, 2019 at 9:51 PM Felix Miata wrote: > > David Wright composed on 2019-08-29 19:49 (UTC-0500): > > > Unfortunately, virtually every conversation about any of your systems > > begins with a tirade about how Debian is completely broken, whether > > it's the... > > I'm guessing most of

Re: udev being an ass

2019-08-30 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 30 August 2019 03:47:09 Curt wrote: > On 2019-08-28, Gene Heskett wrote: > > If you can't say something constructive Brian, please just stfu. I > > won't claim to speak for the rest of the list, but I am damned tired > > of your negative attitude. You have, I assume the same clothes to

Re: udev being an ass

2019-08-30 Thread Curt
On 2019-08-28, Gene Heskett wrote: > > If you can't say something constructive Brian, please just stfu. I won't > claim to speak for the rest of the list, but I am damned tired of your > negative attitude. You have, I assume the same clothes to get glad in > that you got mad in. Use them. In yo

Re: udev being an ass

2019-08-29 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 29 August 2019 21:34:33 Felix Miata wrote: > David Wright composed on 2019-08-29 19:49 (UTC-0500): > > Unfortunately, virtually every conversation about any of your > > systems begins with a tirade about how Debian is completely broken, > > whether it's the... > > I'm guessing most of

Re: udev being an ass

2019-08-29 Thread Felix Miata
David Wright composed on 2019-08-29 19:49 (UTC-0500): > Unfortunately, virtually every conversation about any of your systems > begins with a tirade about how Debian is completely broken, whether > it's the... I'm guessing most of it would be curtailed if he could install the current stable rele

Re: udev being an ass

2019-08-29 Thread David Wright
On Wed 28 Aug 2019 at 20:19:29 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote: > On Wednesday 28 August 2019 16:04:48 Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Wed, Aug 28, 2019 at 08:42:56PM +0100, Brian wrote: > > > On Wed 28 Aug 2019 at 15:05:18 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > I've resorted to the chattr on more than one occ

Re: udev being an ass

2019-08-29 Thread David Wright
On Wed 28 Aug 2019 at 19:59:53 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote: > On Wednesday 28 August 2019 15:42:56 Brian wrote: > > On Wed 28 Aug 2019 at 15:05:18 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > I've resorted to the chattr on more than one occasion. Works well > > > if you can get it all done before before the t

Re: udev being an ass, SOLVED

2019-08-29 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 29 August 2019 15:23:42 Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > and yet you can't actually describe what you DO want to happen. > > > > I just did, in a step by step description, Greg. How you choose to > > understand it is up to you. > > I just reviewed >

Re: udev being an ass

2019-08-29 Thread Greg Wooledge
> > and yet you can't actually describe what you DO want to happen. > > I just did, in a step by step description, Greg. How you choose to > understand it is up to you. I just reviewed again. There is nothing in it about how you want

Re: udev being an ass

2019-08-29 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 29 August 2019 12:55:10 Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Thu, Aug 29, 2019 at 11:41:55AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > Its all hosts file based, no dhcp involved this side of the router. > > If the desired fqdn is not in the /etc/hosts file, which is > > identical on all machines (so is the

Re: udev being an ass

2019-08-29 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, Aug 29, 2019 at 11:41:55AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > Its all hosts file based, no dhcp involved this side of the router. If > the desired fqdn is not in the /etc/hosts file, which is identical on > all machines (so is the /etc/resolv.conf file, which assigns the router [...] None of

Re: udev being an ass

2019-08-29 Thread Brian
On Thu 29 Aug 2019 at 12:03:22 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Thursday 29 August 2019 09:26:25 mick crane wrote: > > > On 2019-08-29 13:45, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > On Wed, Aug 28, 2019 at 08:19:29PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > >> Thats a miss-statement. I do want persistent interface names

Re: udev being an ass

2019-08-29 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 29 August 2019 09:26:25 mick crane wrote: > On 2019-08-29 13:45, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Wed, Aug 28, 2019 at 08:19:29PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > >> Thats a miss-statement. I do want persistent interface names EVEN > >> if I move this boot drive to a whole new box. > >> > >> Th

Re: udev being an ass

2019-08-29 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 29 August 2019 08:45:47 Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Wed, Aug 28, 2019 at 08:19:29PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > Thats a miss-statement. I do want persistent interface names EVEN if > > I move this boot drive to a whole new box. > > > > This machine does in fact have 2 nic's. And I ha

Re: udev being an ass

2019-08-29 Thread mick crane
On 2019-08-29 13:45, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Wed, Aug 28, 2019 at 08:19:29PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: Thats a miss-statement. I do want persistent interface names EVEN if I move this boot drive to a whole new box. This machine does in fact have 2 nic's. And I have indeed used both at the

Re: udev being an ass

2019-08-29 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Aug 28, 2019 at 08:19:29PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > Thats a miss-statement. I do want persistent interface names EVEN if I > move this boot drive to a whole new box. > This machine does in fact have 2 nic's. And I have indeed used both at > the same time but haven't mastered "consis

Re: udev being an ass

2019-08-29 Thread Brian
On Wed 28 Aug 2019 at 19:59:53 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > If you can't say something constructive Brian, please just stfu. I won't > claim to speak for the rest of the list, but I am damned tired of your > negative attitude. You have, I assume the same clothes to get glad in > that you got ma

Re: udev being an ass, SOLVED

2019-08-28 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 28 August 2019 16:55:20 Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Wed, Aug 28, 2019 at 04:04:48PM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > He apparently wants to make his operating system refuse to register > > persistent interface names, on the grounds that he frequently moves > > a physical hard drive from

Re: udev being an ass

2019-08-28 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 28 August 2019 16:04:48 Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Wed, Aug 28, 2019 at 08:42:56PM +0100, Brian wrote: > > On Wed 28 Aug 2019 at 15:05:18 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > I've resorted to the chattr on more than one occasion. Works well > > > if you can get it all done before before t

Re: udev being an ass

2019-08-28 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 28 August 2019 15:42:56 Brian wrote: > On Wed 28 Aug 2019 at 15:05:18 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > I've resorted to the chattr on more than one occasion. Works well > > if you can get it all done before before the timer runs the N-M > > script again. > > Users (particularly new use

Re: udev being an ass

2019-08-28 Thread Brian
On Wed 28 Aug 2019 at 03:18:59 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Wednesday 28 August 2019 02:10:02 Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > > On Ma, 27 aug 19, 14:27:02, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > What, in wheezy > > > > Do you mean Debian 7? > > > > > /lib/udev/rules.d rule do I nuke so eth0 remains eth0 regardle

Re: udev being an ass

2019-08-28 Thread Brian
On Wed 28 Aug 2019 at 16:04:48 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Wed, Aug 28, 2019 at 08:42:56PM +0100, Brian wrote: > > On Wed 28 Aug 2019 at 15:05:18 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > > I've resorted to the chattr on more than one occasion. Works well if you > > > can get it all done before b

Re: udev being an ass

2019-08-28 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Aug 28, 2019 at 04:04:48PM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > He apparently wants to make his operating system refuse to register > persistent interface names, on the grounds that he frequently moves > a physical hard drive from one system to another, and doesn't want to > go through the hassle

Re: udev being an ass

2019-08-28 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Aug 28, 2019 at 08:42:56PM +0100, Brian wrote: > On Wed 28 Aug 2019 at 15:05:18 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > I've resorted to the chattr on more than one occasion. Works well if you > > can get it all done before before the timer runs the N-M script again. > > Users (particularly ne

Re: udev being an ass

2019-08-28 Thread Brian
On Wed 28 Aug 2019 at 15:05:18 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > I've resorted to the chattr on more than one occasion. Works well if you > can get it all done before before the timer runs the N-M script again. Users (particularly new users) who read chattr(1), and who think getting their own way wi

Re: udev being an ass

2019-08-28 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 28 August 2019 12:53:15 Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Wed, Aug 28, 2019 at 12:26:05PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > So: delete /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules AND edit /e/n/i > > to put it back on eth0 where it belongs and it should work. > > Only on machines that have precisel

Re: udev being an ass

2019-08-28 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 28 August 2019 11:38:14 David Wright wrote: > On Wed 28 Aug 2019 at 03:07:24 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Tuesday 27 August 2019 23:54:02 David Wright wrote: > > > On Tue 27 Aug 2019 at 19:51:21 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > On Tuesday 27 August 2019 17:44:18 David Wrigh

Re: udev being an ass

2019-08-28 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Aug 28, 2019 at 12:26:05PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > So: delete /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules AND edit /e/n/i to > put it back on eth0 where it belongs and it should work. Only on machines that have precisely ONE (1) network interface. On any machine with more than one, yo

Re: udev being an ass

2019-08-28 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 28 August 2019 10:54:56 Curt wrote: > On 2019-08-28, Gene Heskett wrote: > > It may, looks as if it could, but by itself lacks sufficient > > context to ring any bells. > > https://www.mail-archive.com/debian-user@lists.debian.org/msg747147.ht >ml > > Drop Revert-udev-network-devic

Re: udev being an ass

2019-08-28 Thread David Wright
On Wed 28 Aug 2019 at 03:07:24 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote: > On Tuesday 27 August 2019 23:54:02 David Wright wrote: > > On Tue 27 Aug 2019 at 19:51:21 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote: > > > On Tuesday 27 August 2019 17:44:18 David Wright wrote: > > > > On Tue 27 Aug 2019 at 21:39:52 (+0100), Brian wro

Re: udev being an ass

2019-08-28 Thread Curt
On 2019-08-28, Gene Heskett wrote: > > It may, looks as if it could, but by itself lacks sufficient context to > ring any bells. https://www.mail-archive.com/debian-user@lists.debian.org/msg747147.html Drop Revert-udev-network-device-renaming-immediately-give.patch. ... In case you rely on t

Re: udev being an ass

2019-08-28 Thread David Wright
On Wed 28 Aug 2019 at 03:00:01 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote: > On Tuesday 27 August 2019 23:42:25 David Wright wrote: > > On Tue 27 Aug 2019 at 19:41:41 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote: > > > On Tuesday 27 August 2019 17:38:34 David Wright wrote: > > > > On Tue 27 Aug 2019 at 16:13:25 (-0400), Greg Wool

Re: udev being an ass

2019-08-28 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 28 August 2019 08:34:17 Curt wrote: > On 2019-08-28, Gene Heskett wrote: > >> in Bullseye it appears that > >> '/etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules' won't even kind of sort > >> of maybe work in specifically unspecified cases (if I understood a > >> recent announcement here cor

Re: udev being an ass

2019-08-28 Thread Curt
On 2019-08-28, Gene Heskett wrote: > >> in Bullseye it appears that >> '/etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules' won't even kind of sort of >> maybe work in specifically unspecified cases (if I understood a recent >> announcement here correctly). > > A link? > https://www.mail-archive.com/debi

Re: udev being an ass

2019-08-28 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 28 August 2019 05:58:09 Curt wrote: > On 2019-08-27, Gene Heskett wrote: > >> In spite of posts about it in -user, you are just about clueless > >> about status of /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules, aren't > >> you? > > > > I can read them just fine. But when written in swahi

Re: udev being an ass

2019-08-28 Thread Curt
On 2019-08-27, Gene Heskett wrote: >> >> In spite of posts about it in -user, you are just about clueless about >> status of /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules, aren't you? >> > I can read them just fine. But when written in swahili, they aren't that > easy to understand. But first, make t

Re: udev being an ass

2019-08-28 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 28 August 2019 02:35:51 Felix Miata wrote: > Andrei POPESCU composed on 2019-08-28 09:10 (UTC+0300): > > Gene Heskett wrote: > >> What, in wheezy > > > > Do you mean Debian 7? > > > >> /lib/udev/rules.d rule do I nuke so eth0 remains eth0 regardless of > >> which box I put that drive

Re: udev being an ass

2019-08-28 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 28 August 2019 02:10:02 Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Ma, 27 aug 19, 14:27:02, Gene Heskett wrote: > > What, in wheezy > > Do you mean Debian 7? > > > /lib/udev/rules.d rule do I nuke so eth0 remains eth0 regardless of > >which box I put that drive in? > > Try booting with 'net.ifnames=0

Re: udev being an ass

2019-08-28 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 28 August 2019 01:45:04 Felmon Davis wrote: > On Tue, 27 Aug 2019, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Tuesday 27 August 2019 16:01:30 Brian wrote: > >> (P.S. > >> Could we have posts without medical details. They make me feel > >> quesy). > > > > Life, fully lived, can and will have its queas

Re: udev being an ass

2019-08-28 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 27 August 2019 23:54:02 David Wright wrote: > On Tue 27 Aug 2019 at 19:51:21 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Tuesday 27 August 2019 17:44:18 David Wright wrote: > > > On Tue 27 Aug 2019 at 21:39:52 (+0100), Brian wrote: > > > > On Tue 27 Aug 2019 at 15:50:31 -0400, Gene Heskett wrot

Re: udev being an ass

2019-08-28 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 27 August 2019 23:42:25 David Wright wrote: > On Tue 27 Aug 2019 at 19:41:41 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Tuesday 27 August 2019 17:38:34 David Wright wrote: > > > On Tue 27 Aug 2019 at 16:13:25 (-0400), Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > > On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 03:50:31PM -0400, Gene

Re: udev being an ass

2019-08-27 Thread Felix Miata
Andrei POPESCU composed on 2019-08-28 09:10 (UTC+0300): > Gene Heskett wrote: >> What, in wheezy > Do you mean Debian 7? >> /lib/udev/rules.d rule do I nuke so eth0 remains eth0 regardless of >> which box I put that drive in? > Try booting with 'net.ifnames=0' on the kernel command line, thou

Re: udev being an ass

2019-08-27 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Ma, 27 aug 19, 14:27:02, Gene Heskett wrote: > > What, in wheezy Do you mean Debian 7? > /lib/udev/rules.d rule do I nuke so eth0 remains eth0 regardless of >which box I put that drive in? Try booting with 'net.ifnames=0' on the kernel command line, though I'm not sure this works in wheezy

Re: udev being an ass

2019-08-27 Thread Felmon Davis
On Tue, 27 Aug 2019, Gene Heskett wrote: On Tuesday 27 August 2019 16:01:30 Brian wrote: (P.S. Could we have posts without medical details. They make me feel quesy). Life, fully lived, can and will have its queasy moments. Perhaps you are overdue of an annual physical? I see Brian's poin

Re: udev being an ass

2019-08-27 Thread David Wright
On Tue 27 Aug 2019 at 19:51:21 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote: > On Tuesday 27 August 2019 17:44:18 David Wright wrote: > > On Tue 27 Aug 2019 at 21:39:52 (+0100), Brian wrote: > > > On Tue 27 Aug 2019 at 15:50:31 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > On Tuesday 27 August 2019 14:58:37 Tyler D wrote: > >

Re: udev being an ass

2019-08-27 Thread David Wright
On Tue 27 Aug 2019 at 19:41:41 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote: > On Tuesday 27 August 2019 17:38:34 David Wright wrote: > > On Tue 27 Aug 2019 at 16:13:25 (-0400), Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 03:50:31PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > I'll do it, but the date on it is today,

Re: udev being an ass

2019-08-27 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 27 August 2019 17:44:18 David Wright wrote: > On Tue 27 Aug 2019 at 21:39:52 (+0100), Brian wrote: > > On Tue 27 Aug 2019 at 15:50:31 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > On Tuesday 27 August 2019 14:58:37 Tyler D wrote: > > > > On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 2:45 PM Gene Heskett wrote: > > > >

Re: udev being an ass

2019-08-27 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 27 August 2019 17:38:34 David Wright wrote: > On Tue 27 Aug 2019 at 16:13:25 (-0400), Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 03:50:31PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > I'll do it, but the date on it is today, so I suspect something > > > in /lib/udev/rules.d is behind the re-

Re: udev being an ass

2019-08-27 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 27 August 2019 16:39:52 Brian wrote: > On Tue 27 Aug 2019 at 15:50:31 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Tuesday 27 August 2019 14:58:37 Tyler D wrote: > > > On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 2:45 PM Gene Heskett > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > Greetings all; > > > > > > > > I've just swapped machin

Re: udev being an ass

2019-08-27 Thread Brian
On Tue 27 Aug 2019 at 17:22:27 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Tuesday 27 August 2019 16:01:30 Brian wrote: > > > On Tue 27 Aug 2019 at 14:27:02 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > Greetings all; > > > > > > I've just swapped machines because that failed one got nailed by a > > > lightning surge whi

Re: udev being an ass

2019-08-27 Thread David Wright
On Tue 27 Aug 2019 at 21:39:52 (+0100), Brian wrote: > On Tue 27 Aug 2019 at 15:50:31 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Tuesday 27 August 2019 14:58:37 Tyler D wrote: > > > On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 2:45 PM Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > > > > > I've just swapped machines because that failed one got na

Re: udev being an ass

2019-08-27 Thread David Wright
On Tue 27 Aug 2019 at 16:13:25 (-0400), Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 03:50:31PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > I'll do it, but the date on it is today, so I suspect something > > in /lib/udev/rules.d is behind the re-write. > > If that file exists, it's used. Quotes in the file

Re: udev being an ass

2019-08-27 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 27 August 2019 16:01:30 Brian wrote: > On Tue 27 Aug 2019 at 14:27:02 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > Greetings all; > > > > I've just swapped machines because that failed one got nailed by a > > lightning surge while I was in the shop with a heart attack. 3 > > different psu's didn't r

Re: udev being an ass

2019-08-27 Thread Brian
On Tue 27 Aug 2019 at 15:50:31 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Tuesday 27 August 2019 14:58:37 Tyler D wrote: > > > On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 2:45 PM Gene Heskett > wrote: > > > Greetings all; > > > > > > I've just swapped machines because that failed one got nailed by a > > > lightning surge whi

Re: udev being an ass

2019-08-27 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 03:50:31PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > I'll do it, but the date on it is today, so I suspect something > in /lib/udev/rules.d is behind the re-write. If that file exists, it's used. Quotes in the file are ignored. Valid content in the file is used to map various interfa

Re: udev being an ass

2019-08-27 Thread Brian
On Tue 27 Aug 2019 at 14:27:02 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > Greetings all; > > I've just swapped machines because that failed one got nailed by a > lightning surge while I was in the shop with a heart attack. 3 > different psu's didn't restore the green led in a decade old dell, so I > swappe

Re: udev being an ass

2019-08-27 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 27 August 2019 14:58:37 Tyler D wrote: > On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 2:45 PM Gene Heskett wrote: > > Greetings all; > > > > I've just swapped machines because that failed one got nailed by a > > lightning surge while I was in the shop with a heart attack. 3 > > different psu's didn't res

Re: udev being an ass

2019-08-27 Thread Tyler D
On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 2:45 PM Gene Heskett wrote: > > Greetings all; > > I've just swapped machines because that failed one got nailed by a > lightning surge while I was in the shop with a heart attack. 3 > different psu's didn't restore the green led in a decade old dell, so I > swapped the wh

Re: udev (without systemd) fails to find devices

2018-09-12 Thread Bill Brelsford
On Wed Sep 12 2018 at 10:10 PM +0200, Sven Joachim wrote: > On 2018-09-11 19:05 -0700, Bill Brelsford wrote: > > > I recently upgraded the sid installation on an i386 machine. With > > udev upgraded to 239-8, many devices are no longer detected during > > boot, e.g. usb, network card, video, audi

Re: udev (without systemd) fails to find devices

2018-09-12 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2018-09-11 19:05 -0700, Bill Brelsford wrote: > I recently upgraded the sid installation on an i386 machine. With > udev upgraded to 239-8, many devices are no longer detected during > boot, e.g. usb, network card, video, audio. I also have a > not-upgraded buster partition on the same machin

Re: udev doesn't like systemd-shim

2017-03-24 Thread Jimmy Johnson
On 03/22/2017 10:05 PM, David Griffith wrote: I switched to sysvinit by following the directions at http://without-systemd.org/wiki/index.php/How_to_remove_systemd_from_a_Debian_jessie/sid_installation This seemed to work until I tried to install sshfs whereupon I got this: E: /usr/share/initr

Re: udev doesn't like systemd-shim

2017-03-23 Thread The Wanderer
On 2017-03-23 at 01:05, David Griffith wrote: > I switched to sysvinit by following the directions at > http://without-systemd.org/wiki/index.php/How_to_remove_systemd_from_a_Debian_jessie/sid_installation > This seemed to work until I tried to install sshfs whereupon I got this: > > E: /usr/sha

Re: udev foolishness in wheezy

2015-07-27 Thread Ron
On Mon, 27 Jul 2015 15:57:45 + (UTC) Liam O'Toole wrote: > > Is there a way to make udev "forget" the names it has assigned ? > > Yes. Just delete the file /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net and > reboot. And while on this subject, can udev be made to "forget" all the hot-pluggable driv

Re: udev foolishness in wheezy

2015-07-27 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 27 July 2015 11:56:19 Liam O'Toole wrote: > On 2015-07-27, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > On Monday 27 July 2015 14:58:58 Gene Heskett wrote: > >> Greetings all; > >> > >> I am in the process of building up an old MSI K8M890M2-V > >> motherboard, with an Athlon 64X2 at 3.8Ghz on it, to be used fo

Re: udev foolishness in wheezy

2015-07-27 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 27 July 2015 11:33:11 Chris Bannister wrote: > On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 09:58:58AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > Greetings all; > > > > I am in the process of building up an old MSI K8M890M2-V > > motherboard, with an Athlon 64X2 at 3.8Ghz on it, to be used for cnc > > machine control, an

Re: udev foolishness in wheezy

2015-07-27 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 27 July 2015 10:48:21 Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Monday 27 July 2015 14:58:58 Gene Heskett wrote: > > Greetings all; > > > > I am in the process of building up an old MSI K8M890M2-V > > motherboard, with an Athlon 64X2 at 3.8Ghz on it, to be used for cnc > > machine control, and while I final

Re: udev foolishness in wheezy

2015-07-27 Thread Don Armstrong
On Mon, 27 Jul 2015, Gene Heskett wrote: > I am in the process of building up an old MSI K8M890M2-V motherboard, > with an Athlon 64X2 at 3.8Ghz on it, to be used for cnc machine > control, and while I finally did get networking up and running, I was > amazed to find that udev would create an eth0

Re: udev foolishness in wheezy

2015-07-27 Thread Liam O'Toole
On 2015-07-27, Renaud OLGIATI wrote: > On Mon, 27 Jul 2015 15:48:21 +0100 > Lisi Reisz wrote: > >> > I am in the process of building up an old MSI K8M890M2-V motherboard, >> > with an Athlon 64X2 at 3.8Ghz on it, to be used for cnc machine control, >> > and while I finally did get networking up a

Re: udev foolishness in wheezy

2015-07-27 Thread Liam O'Toole
On 2015-07-27, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Monday 27 July 2015 14:58:58 Gene Heskett wrote: >> Greetings all; >> >> I am in the process of building up an old MSI K8M890M2-V motherboard, >> with an Athlon 64X2 at 3.8Ghz on it, to be used for cnc machine control, >> and while I finally did get networking

Re: udev foolishness in wheezy

2015-07-27 Thread David Wright
Quoting Renaud OLGIATI (ren...@olgiati-in-paraguay.org): > On Mon, 27 Jul 2015 15:48:21 +0100 > Lisi Reisz wrote: > > > > I am in the process of building up an old MSI K8M890M2-V motherboard, > > > with an Athlon 64X2 at 3.8Ghz on it, to be used for cnc machine control, > > > and while I finally

Re: udev foolishness in wheezy

2015-07-27 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 09:58:58AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > Greetings all; > > I am in the process of building up an old MSI K8M890M2-V motherboard, > with an Athlon 64X2 at 3.8Ghz on it, to be used for cnc machine control, > and while I finally did get networking up and running, I was amaze

Re: udev foolishness in wheezy

2015-07-27 Thread Ron
On Mon, 27 Jul 2015 15:48:21 +0100 Lisi Reisz wrote: > > I am in the process of building up an old MSI K8M890M2-V motherboard, > > with an Athlon 64X2 at 3.8Ghz on it, to be used for cnc machine control, > > and while I finally did get networking up and running, I was amazed to > > find that udev

Re: udev foolishness in wheezy

2015-07-27 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Monday 27 July 2015 14:58:58 Gene Heskett wrote: > Greetings all; > > I am in the process of building up an old MSI K8M890M2-V motherboard, > with an Athlon 64X2 at 3.8Ghz on it, to be used for cnc machine control, > and while I finally did get networking up and running, I was amazed to > find t

Re: udev rule for my usb stick

2015-06-11 Thread Frederic Marchal
On Wednesday 10 June 2015 18:39:11 Michael Soulier wrote: > On 2015-06-09 4:22 PM, deloptes wrote: > > ls -a /dev/disk/by-id/ or uuid is an option if you want predictable name, > > no? > > I suppose, but I'd like to know why working through udev isn't working. Not every subsystem works. You use

Re: udev rule for my usb stick

2015-06-11 Thread deloptes
Michael Soulier wrote: > On 2015-06-09 4:22 PM, deloptes wrote: >> ls -a /dev/disk/by-id/ or uuid is an option if you want predictable name, >> no? > > I suppose, but I'd like to know why working through udev isn't working. > > Mike If you post the output of udevadm without grep, could be more

Re: udev rule for my usb stick

2015-06-10 Thread Michael Soulier
On 2015-06-09 4:22 PM, deloptes wrote: ls -a /dev/disk/by-id/ or uuid is an option if you want predictable name, no? I suppose, but I'd like to know why working through udev isn't working. Mike -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe".

Re: udev rule for my usb stick

2015-06-09 Thread deloptes
Michael P. Soulier wrote: > I'd appreciate help on debugging this. I'd like a nice, predictable device > name for mounting. ls -a /dev/disk/by-id/ or uuid is an option if you want predictable name, no? regards -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of

Re: udev hwdb question

2015-05-23 Thread Sven Arvidsson
On Sat, 2015-05-23 at 16:38 +0200, Petter Adsen wrote: > In followup to the question I asked about a Logitech mouse a couple of > days ago; I can add a file in /etc/udev/hwdb.d and remap a binding as > such: > > KEYBOARD_KEY_70007=back > > But where can I find a list of what I can map them _to_ (

Re: udev - set persistent name for WLAN Adapter

2015-04-27 Thread csanyipal
Bob Proulx writes: > csanyi...@gmail.com wrote: >> Bob Proulx writes: >> > Michael Biebl wrote: >> >> Any idea why it changes the MAC? >> > >> > Hmm... Is 'macchanger' involved in this in any way? >> >> I just installed macchanger and run: > > Wait! That was NOT a request to install macchanger.

Re: udev - set persistent name for WLAN Adapter

2015-04-26 Thread Bob Proulx
csanyi...@gmail.com wrote: > Bob Proulx writes: > > Michael Biebl wrote: > >> Any idea why it changes the MAC? > > > > Hmm... Is 'macchanger' involved in this in any way? > > I just installed macchanger and run: Wait! That was NOT a request to install macchanger. The question was why is your et

Re: udev - set persistent name for WLAN Adapter

2015-04-26 Thread csanyipal
Bob Proulx writes: > Michael Biebl wrote: >> Pal, what hardware is that specifically? >> Any idea why it changes the MAC? > > Hmm... Is 'macchanger' involved in this in any way? > > $ apt-cache show macchanger > Description-en: utility for manipulating the MAC address of network > interface

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