Re: Please, don't reply to spam -- much less on list [was: ግěcůžላኣዝዩ]

On 2025-06-24, Greg Wooledge wrote: > >> This like sounds like good and important advice, but how do you "bounce the >> original message"? > > By using the "bounce" feature of your MUA. Only good ones have it. > >> Does that mean forward the message to the report-listspam? > > No. Forwarding an

Re: Linux friendly FM tuner on USB device - available?

On Jun 25, 2025, Richard Owlett wrote: > On 6/24/25 7:27 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: > > On 6/23/25 9:00 AM, Hans wrote: > > > Am Montag, 23. Juni 2025, 13:53:35 CEST schrieb Richard Owlett: > > > > I'm old enough to remember pocket radios of the fifties/sixties. > > > > I looking for a USB device to

Debian reset root password (was: Re: Debian Users problem)

On 6/23/25 19:06, Maureen Thomas wrote: Using the latest Linux 12 there is.  I had vpn by nord.  All of a sudden the password app wanted my master password.  I had renewed it as asked by them 5 days ago along with the recovery code.  I typed it in and it said wrong password.  I have only had on

Re: ግěcůžላኣዝዩ

I was not until now by you — Einstein forbade us to assume synchronicity! On Tue, Jun 24, 2025, 13:31 Frank Weißer wrote: > Wherever you think it's neccessary; > but, first of all: You were informed by tomas, not to quote the original > posting! Why do you repeat doing so? > >

Re: Linux friendly FM tuner on USB device - available?

On 6/23/25 7:53 PM, Van Snyder wrote: On Mon, 2025-06-23 at 06:53 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: I'm old enough to remember pocket radios of the fifties/sixties. I looking for a USB device to plug into my laptop running Debian 12 so I can listen to a local station while working. I'd also want to r

Re: Linux friendly FM tuner on USB device - available?

On 6/24/25 7:27 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: On 6/23/25 9:00 AM, Hans wrote: Am Montag, 23. Juni 2025, 13:53:35 CEST schrieb Richard Owlett: I'm old enough to remember pocket radios of the fifties/sixties. I looking for a USB device to plug into my laptop running Debian 12 so I can listen to a loc

Re: Please, don't reply to spam -- much less on list [was: ግěcůžላኣዝዩ]

On Wed, Jun 25, 2025 at 03:18:05PM -, Greg wrote: > On 2025-06-24, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > >> This like sounds like good and important advice, but how do you "bounce the > >> original message"? > > > > By using the "bounce" feature of your MUA. Only good ones have it. > > > >> Does that me

Re: Resolved: SystemD ProtectSystem=full still can write File in /etc outside of WorkingDir or WritePath

Hi, On Wed, Jun 25, 2025 at 02:29:05PM +0200, Philipp Ewald wrote: > systemctl cat openvpn@ > # [Service] > # Type=notify > # PrivateTmp=true > # WorkingDirectory=/etc/openvpn > # ExecStart=/usr/sbin/openvpn --daemon ovpn-%i --status > /run/openvpn/%i.status 10 --cd /etc/openvpn --config /etc/ope

Re: SystemD ProtectSystem=full still can write File in /etc outside of WorkingDir or WritePath

On Wed, Jun 25, 2025 at 11:33:02 +0200, Philipp Ewald wrote: > is it normal that a Service started with systemd still can write files > ouitside it working dir? Depends on the settings in the unit file. Write restrictions are not the default, but there are settings you can use which will cause w

Re: SystemD ProtectSystem=full still can write File in /etc outside of WorkingDir or WritePath

Hi, On Wed, Jun 25, 2025 at 11:33:02AM +0200, Philipp Ewald wrote: > ProtectSystem=full should be read-only /etc > what is the point of this settig if the process still can write there? The "full" setting is indeed meant to keep the whole filesystem read-only for that service, except /dev, /proc,

Re: Linux friendly FM tuner on USB device - available?

On Mon, Jun 23, 2025 at 11:44 AM Dan Purgert wrote: > On Jun 23, 2025, Richard Owlett wrote: > > I'm old enough to remember pocket radios of the fifties/sixties. > > I looking for a USB device to plug into my laptop running Debian 12 so > > I can listen to a local station while working. I'd also

Re: Please, don't reply to spam -- much less on list [was: ግěcůžላኣዝዩ]

On Tue, Jun 24, 2025 at 05:44:11PM -0700, Dan Hitt wrote: > On Tue, Jun 24, 2025 at 4:50 PM Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > On Tue, Jun 24, 2025 at 16:33:38 -0700, Dan Hitt wrote: > > > On Tue, Jun 24, 2025 at 3:09 AM wrote: > > > > if you want to do everyone a favour, you bounce the original message

Re: ግěcůžላኣዝዩ

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Re: Please, don't reply to spam -- much less on list [was: ግěcůžላኣዝዩ]

On Tue, Jun 24, 2025 at 4:50 PM Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Tue, Jun 24, 2025 at 16:33:38 -0700, Dan Hitt wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 24, 2025 at 3:09 AM wrote: > > > if you want to do everyone a favour, you bounce the original message > > > to to help the list spam team train > > > their filters (I d

Re: Linux friendly FM tuner on USB device - available?

On 6/23/25 9:00 AM, Hans wrote: Am Montag, 23. Juni 2025, 13:53:35 CEST schrieb Richard Owlett: I'm old enough to remember pocket radios of the fifties/sixties. I looking for a USB device to plug into my laptop running Debian 12 so I can listen to a local station while working. I'd also want to

Re: Please, don't reply to spam -- much less on list [was: ግěcůžላኣዝዩ]

On Tue, Jun 24, 2025 at 16:33:38 -0700, Dan Hitt wrote: > On Tue, Jun 24, 2025 at 3:09 AM wrote: > > if you want to do everyone a favour, you bounce the original message > > to to help the list spam team train > > their filters (I did). > This like sounds like good and important advice, but how

Re: Please, don't reply to spam -- much less on list [was: ግěcůžላኣዝዩ]

On Tue, Jun 24, 2025 at 04:33:38PM -0700, Dan Hitt wrote: > Hi Tomás, > > This like sounds like good and important advice, but how do you "bounce the > original message"? This is something that your MUA (Mail reader) should do. It will be different for every MUA. I use mutt - that has got a 'bo

Re: Please, don't reply to spam -- much less on list [was: ግěcůžላኣዝዩ]

On Tue, Jun 24, 2025 at 3:09 AM wrote: > > > Please, don't do that. You amplify the spam and incommodate the ~3k > subscribers of this list. Then you top-post and include the full spam > body, to make extra sure everybody has seen it. > > Not good. > > if you want to do everyone a favour, yo

Re: Linux friendly FM tuner on USB device - available?

On 6/23/25 9:28 AM, Dan Purgert wrote: On Jun 23, 2025, Richard Owlett wrote: On 6/23/25 7:10 AM, Dan Purgert wrote: On Jun 23, 2025, Richard Owlett wrote: I'm old enough to remember pocket radios of the fifties/sixties. I looking for a USB device to plug into my laptop running Debian 12 so I

Re: Debian Users problem

On Mon, Jun 23, 2025 at 9:34 PM Maureen Thomas wrote: > <... snip ...> > > So I need to know if there is any way to change my damn root password and > how to get synaptic to accept them. I just turned 75 so I write a lot of > stuff down so I do not forget. I would greatly appreciate your help

Re: Question

er's mailing list (your mail program dropped it, it seems: I re-added it, since the more people read your request the better the chances you get some useful help). Here it is again: You mention "the support one": this doesn't exist, you sent it to , which is there to coordinate

Re: Linux friendly FM tuner on USB device - available?

On Jun 24, 2025, Richard Owlett wrote: > On 6/23/25 9:28 AM, Dan Purgert wrote: > > On Jun 23, 2025, Richard Owlett wrote: > > > [https://www.adafruit.com/product/1497 approaches my goal] > > > > That adafruit one is OK. I'm not a big fan of the MCX connector, since > > you're a bit tied to that

Re: ግěcůžላኣዝዩ

Wherever you think it's neccessary; but, first of all: You were informed by tomas, not to quote the original posting! Why do you repeat doing so?

Re: ግěcůžላኣዝዩ

This will be reported as spam. On Tue, 24 Jun 2025 09:45:43 +0200, 🦓 wrote: > Schick einfach das Geld rüber und verpiss Dich aus geldbefreiten > Kommunistinnenkommunen! > > Op di 24 jun 2025 om 10:04 schreef : >> >> Hallo, >> Ich Wende mich an alle Einzelpersonen und Unternehmen, die >> Finanzmit

Re: Flashing mobian to one+

Oh thank you dont know how I missed it! Regards M. On Tue, 24 Jun 2025 04:21:18 -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > On Tue, Jun 24, 2025 at 4:02 AM Sand wrote: >> >> Is there a comperhensive guide to flashing Mobian to 1+ mobile >> phone? I am not a really experienced user... > > Each supported devic

Re: Flashing mobian to one+

On Tue, Jun 24, 2025 at 4:02 AM Sand wrote: > > Is there a comperhensive guide to flashing Mobian to 1+ mobile phone? I am > not a really experienced user... Each supported device has a wiki page, and the wiki page provides the installation instructions. See Supported Devices at

Re: Question

On Mon, Jun 23, 2025 at 08:52:42PM -0300, Denise wrote: > Hi, hi, your question is better placed in the debian users mailing list (I added it to the CC). Debian-project is more for project coordination stuff. Please be so kind to remove debian-project from the CC when replying here. > I'm new t

Re: Linux friendly FM tuner on USB device - available?

Op di 24 jun 2025 om 04:05 schreef 🦓 : > arent sum chip antennae good enough to decode fm radio? didya ask > r...@gnu.org? (i was talking software radio hacking your libre foss bluetooth driver without any usb dongles (since wifi antennae have been observing colleagues thru tel aviv university

Re: Debian Users problem

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Re: Debian Users problem

Maureen HAve you set-uo sudo? If so, try sudo passed Enter your user apssword, then your new root passwd -- All the best Keith Bainbridge keithr...@gmail.com +61 (0)447 667 468 UTC+ 10:00 From my Aphone On June 24, 2025 12:06:14 PM GMT+10:00, Maureen Thomas wrote: >Using the latest Li

Re: Linux friendly FM tuner on USB device - available?

On Mon, 2025-06-23 at 06:53 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > I'm old enough to remember pocket radios of the fifties/sixties. > I looking for a USB device to plug into my laptop running Debian 12 > so I > can listen to a local station while working. I'd also want to record > as > MP3 for listening

Re: My computer crashes and freezes when:

On 6/23/25 09:50, Angelo wrote: I didnt find the cause of the problem but it looks like altabbing was the cause of my crashes, looking on forums it seems like im not the only one with this problem, i changed my desktop environment to kde plasma and apparently the altabbing and crashing stopped bu

Re: Trixie xorg crash (was: Trixie hangs during boot after upgrade)

On Mon, Jun 23, 2025 at 23:59:11 +0200, Rainer Dorsch wrote: > It seems that symlinks have been missing: > > root@h370:/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu# ln -s libGL.so libGL.so.1 > root@h370:/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu# ln -s libEGL.so libEGL.so.1 > root@h370:/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu# > > cures the i

Re: My computer crashes and freezes when:

I didnt find the cause of the problem but it looks like altabbing was the cause of my crashes, looking on forums it seems like im not the only one with this problem, i changed my desktop environment to kde plasma and apparently the altabbing and crashing stopped but my steam crashing my whole compu

Re: Linux friendly FM tuner on USB device - available?

On Jun 23, 2025, Richard Owlett wrote: > On 6/23/25 7:10 AM, Dan Purgert wrote: > > On Jun 23, 2025, Richard Owlett wrote: > > > I'm old enough to remember pocket radios of the fifties/sixties. > > > I looking for a USB device to plug into my laptop running Debian 12 so > > > I can listen to a loca

Re: Linux friendly FM tuner on USB device - available?

Am Montag, 23. Juni 2025, 13:53:35 CEST schrieb Richard Owlett: > I'm old enough to remember pocket radios of the fifties/sixties. > I looking for a USB device to plug into my laptop running Debian 12 so I > can listen to a local station while working. I'd also want to record as > MP3 for listening

Re: Linux friendly FM tuner on USB device - available?

On 6/23/25 7:10 AM, Dan Purgert wrote: On Jun 23, 2025, Richard Owlett wrote: I'm old enough to remember pocket radios of the fifties/sixties. I looking for a USB device to plug into my laptop running Debian 12 so I can listen to a local station while working. I'd also want to record as MP3 for

Re: unixodbc-bin is not available - what to do?

On 2025-06-21, Dan Ritter wrote: > > So you should make sure you have libreoffice-base, > libreoffice-base-drivers, and libsqliteodbc installed. According to the robot, you also need odbcinst and unixodbc as well as creating an ~/.odbc.ini file and creating or editing a ~/.odbcinst.ini file (if r

Re: Linux friendly FM tuner on USB device - available?

> On 23 Jun 2025, at 13:10, Dan Purgert wrote: > > On Jun 23, 2025, Richard Owlett wrote: >> I'm old enough to remember pocket radios of the fifties/sixties. >> I looking for a USB device to plug into my laptop running Debian 12 so >> I can listen to a local station while working. I'd also want

Re: Linux friendly FM tuner on USB device - available?

On Jun 23, 2025, Richard Owlett wrote: > I'm old enough to remember pocket radios of the fifties/sixties. > I looking for a USB device to plug into my laptop running Debian 12 so > I can listen to a local station while working. I'd also want to record > as MP3 for listening at a more convenient tim

Re: My computer crashes and freezes when:

On 22.06.2025 08:23, Angelo wrote: *Crash 1:* When I'm playing minecraft or any other game and I have an application that produces sound like youtube music or anything else if I change windows the system starts making crackling sounds, after those sounds start to occur the system starts to slow

Re: Where to report missing packages after an 'apt install'?

> > I just installed pyspread on my Debian 12 system and when I ran it > there were two missing packages:- > > chris$ pyspread > Warning: Required module setuptools not found. > Warning: Required module markdown2 not found. > chris$ > > So should this be reported to Debian maintaine

Re: My computer crashes and freezes when:

On 6/21/25 20:23, Angelo wrote: *Crash 1:* When I'm playing minecraft or any other game and I have an application that produces sound like youtube music or anything else if I change windows the system starts making crackling sounds, after those sounds start to occur the system starts to slow down

Re: unixodbc-bin is not available - what to do?

On Sat, Jun 21, 2025 at 08:46:49PM +0100, Chris Green wrote: > Geert Stappers wrote: > > On Sat, Jun 21, 2025 at 05:58:30PM +0100, Chris Green wrote: > > > Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > > On Sat, Jun 21, 2025 at 15:37:38 +0100, Chris Green wrote: > > > > > I'm trying to install the libraries and drive

Re: unixodbc-bin is not available - what to do?

Geert Stappers wrote: > On Sat, Jun 21, 2025 at 05:58:30PM +0100, Chris Green wrote: > > Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > On Sat, Jun 21, 2025 at 15:37:38 +0100, Chris Green wrote: > > > > I'm trying to install the libraries and drivers required to use a > > > > sqlite3 database with libreoffice writer

Re: unixodbc-bin is not available - what to do?

On Sat, Jun 21, 2025 at 05:58:30PM +0100, Chris Green wrote: > Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Sat, Jun 21, 2025 at 15:37:38 +0100, Chris Green wrote: > > > I'm trying to install the libraries and drivers required to use a > > > sqlite3 database with libreoffice writer. However when I try to > > > ins

Re: unixodbc-bin is not available - what to do?

Dan Ritter wrote: > Chris Green wrote: > > I'm trying to install the libraries and drivers required to use a > > sqlite3 database with libreoffice writer. However when I try to > > install the required packages I get an error:- > > > > root@t470# apt install unixodbc-dev unixodbc-bin unixodb

Re: unixodbc-bin is not available - what to do?

Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Sat, Jun 21, 2025 at 15:37:38 +0100, Chris Green wrote: > > I'm trying to install the libraries and drivers required to use a > > sqlite3 database with libreoffice writer. However when I try to > > install the required packages I get an error:- > > > > root@t470# apt

Re: unixodbc-bin is not available - what to do?

On Sat, Jun 21, 2025 at 15:37:38 +0100, Chris Green wrote: > I'm trying to install the libraries and drivers required to use a > sqlite3 database with libreoffice writer. However when I try to > install the required packages I get an error:- > > root@t470# apt install unixodbc-dev unixodbc-bin

Re: unixodbc-bin is not available - what to do?

Chris Green wrote: > I'm trying to install the libraries and drivers required to use a > sqlite3 database with libreoffice writer. However when I try to > install the required packages I get an error:- > > root@t470# apt install unixodbc-dev unixodbc-bin unixodbc > Reading package lists..

Re: debian-trixie-DI-alpha1-amd64-netinst accessible installer issue

Hi, Mgr. Janusz Chmiel wrote: > Dear core developers of Debian, >    I Am kindly warning you, that when I have tried to run > debian-trixie-DI-alpha1-amd64-netinst.iso > on my system, which support multiple kind of sound output, when I have > pressed Enter key after hearing The message. Type Enter

Re: Where to report missing packages after an 'apt install'?

Chris Green wrote: > I just installed pyspread on my Debian 12 system and when I ran it > there were two missing packages:- > > chris$ pyspread > Warning: Required module setuptools not found. > Warning: Required module markdown2 not found. > chris$ > > So should this be reported t

Re: old entries in sources.list?

On Fri, Jun 20, 2025 at 10:15:21PM +0200, 🦓 wrote: > Gisteren schreef li...@nodatagrabbing.com: > > I can't tell you if it is the "best" way to do things, but I have always > > just deleted the entries associated with the previous release when I > > upgraded distros. I never have noticed any disadv

Re: old entries in sources.list?

On Fri, Jun 20, 2025 at 8:04 PM Andy Smith wrote: > > On Fri, Jun 20, 2025 at 10:15:21PM +0200, 🦓 wrote: > > if that is so safe, then i would just suggest a stable > > file:/etc/apt/sources.list.d/stable.list simply specifying > > deb http://deb.debian.org/ stable main > > deb-src http://deb.debia

Re: [SOLVED] Re: old entries in sources.list?

On Fri, Jun 20, 2025 at 6:29 PM Andy Smith wrote: > > [...] > > There have even been some arguments that the relatively recent trend of > providing .d directories and support for config fragment inclusion has > been added predominantly by software coming from distribution ecosystems > that lack d

Re: [SOLVED] Re: old entries in sources.list

On Fri 20 Jun 2025 at 12:12:09 (-0400), Jeffrey Walton wrote: > On Fri, Jun 20, 2025 at 11:53 AM Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Fri, Jun 20, 2025 at 11:40:59 -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > > > On Fri, Jun 20, 2025 at 11:30 AM wrote: > > > > On Fri, Jun 20, 2025 at 11:06:51AM -0400, Jeffrey Walton wro

Re: [SOLVED] Re: old entries in sources.list?

On Fri, Jun 20, 2025 at 12:59 PM songbird wrote: > > Jeffrey Walton wrote: > ... > > Unfortunately, I cannot find a Debian specific article on > > configuration directories. However, Red Hat has "Linux configuration: > > Understanding *.d directories in /etc," > >

Re: Trixie xorg crash (was: Trixie hangs during boot after upgrade)

Am Donnerstag, 19. Juni 2025, 16:40:30 Mitteleuropäische Sommerzeit schrieb Rainer Dorsch: > Am Donnerstag, 19. Juni 2025, 16:22:17 Mitteleuropäische Sommerzeit schrieb > > Rainer Dorsch: > > Am Donnerstag, 19. Juni 2025, 15:38:46 Mitteleuropäische Sommerzeit > > schrieb > > > > Rainer Dorsch: >

Re: old entries in sources.list?

On 2025-06-20 22:45, Greg Wooledge wrote: As that was a suggestion following my remark I'll add some points to what I already posted, because I think testing is a bit different to stable in this respect. Just to make sure others are aware of that. There are some issues with this. * Don't

Re: old entries in sources.list?

Hi, On Fri, Jun 20, 2025 at 10:15:21PM +0200, 🦓 wrote: > if that is so safe, then i would just suggest a stable > file:/etc/apt/sources.list.d/stable.list simply specifying > deb http://deb.debian.org/ stable main > deb-src http://deb.debian.org/ stable main Congratulations, you just told people

Re: old entries in sources.list?

On Fri, Jun 20, 2025 at 22:15:21 +0200, 🦓 wrote: > Gisteren schreef li...@nodatagrabbing.com: > > I can't tell you if it is the "best" way to do things, but I have always > > just deleted the entries associated with the previous release when I > > upgraded distros. I never have noticed any disadvan

Re: old entries in sources.list?

On 2025-06-20 22:15, 🦓 wrote: Gisteren schreef li...@nodatagrabbing.com: I can't tell you if it is the "best" way to do things, but I have always just deleted the entries associated with the previous release when I upgraded distros. I never have noticed any disadvantages when doing that. if th

Re: old entries in sources.list?

Gisteren schreef li...@nodatagrabbing.com: > I can't tell you if it is the "best" way to do things, but I have always > just deleted the entries associated with the previous release when I > upgraded distros. I never have noticed any disadvantages when doing that. if that is so safe, then i would

Re: [SOLVED] Re: old entries in sources.list?

Hi, On Fri, Jun 20, 2025 at 01:23:13PM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > In the specific case of /etc/ssh/sshd_config.d/, the man page is > pretty explicit: > > Note that the Debian openssh-server package sets several options as stan‐ > dard in /etc/ssh/sshd_config which are not the default

Re: [SOLVED] Re: old entries in sources.list?

On Fri, 20 Jun 2025, The Wanderer wrote: Personally, what I do in response to such a prompt is to have it show me a diff of the two files, and then if the changes involve losing any settings want to retain, I have it give me a shell prompt (or use another shell I have independently) to make a co

Re: [SOLVED] Re: old entries in sources.list?

On Fri, Jun 20, 2025 at 11:30 AM wrote: > > On Fri, Jun 20, 2025 at 11:06:51AM -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > > On Fri, Jun 20, 2025 at 10:37 AM Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > > > > On Fri, Jun 20, 2025 at 10:15:47 -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > > > > SSH config files are located in /etc, too. But ad

Re: [SOLVED] Re: old entries in sources.list

On Fri, Jun 20, 2025 at 08:58:58AM -0500, David Wright wrote: > On Fri 20 Jun 2025 at 08:28:11 (+0200), to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > On Thu, Jun 19, 2025 at 05:40:24PM -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > > > > [...] > > > > > It might be worth mentioning that if the package owns sources.list, > > > the

Re: [SOLVED] Re: old entries in sources.list?

On Fri, Jun 20, 2025 at 18:20:37 +0100, Tim Woodall wrote: > On Fri, 20 Jun 2025, The Wanderer wrote: > > > Personally, what I do in response to such a prompt is to have it show me > > a diff of the two files, and then if the changes involve losing any > > settings want to retain, I have it give m

Re: [SOLVED] Re: old entries in sources.list?

On Fri, Jun 20, 2025 at 12:12:09 -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > Unfortunately, I cannot find a Debian specific article on > configuration directories. However, Red Hat has "Linux configuration: > Understanding *.d directories in /etc," >

Re: [SOLVED] Re: old entries in sources.list?

Jeffrey Walton wrote: ... > Unfortunately, I cannot find a Debian specific article on > configuration directories. However, Red Hat has "Linux configuration: > Understanding *.d directories in /etc," >. Now > that we have configuration d

Re: [SOLVED] Re: old entries in sources.list?

On Fri, Jun 20, 2025 at 11:42:53AM -0400, The Wanderer wrote: > On 2025-06-20 at 11:30, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > On Fri, Jun 20, 2025 at 11:06:51AM -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > > >> You will absolutely lose your sshd_config when the package is > >> upgraded and you choose the maintainers v

Re: [SOLVED] Re: old entries in sources.list?

On Fri, Jun 20, 2025 at 11:53 AM Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Fri, Jun 20, 2025 at 11:40:59 -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > > On Fri, Jun 20, 2025 at 11:30 AM wrote: > > > > > > On Fri, Jun 20, 2025 at 11:06:51AM -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > > > > On Fri, Jun 20, 2025 at 10:37 AM Greg Wooledge

Re: [SOLVED] Re: old entries in sources.list?

On Fri, Jun 20, 2025 at 11:40:59 -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > On Fri, Jun 20, 2025 at 11:30 AM wrote: > > > > On Fri, Jun 20, 2025 at 11:06:51AM -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > > > On Fri, Jun 20, 2025 at 10:37 AM Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > > > > > > On Fri, Jun 20, 2025 at 10:15:47 -0400, Jeffr

Re: [SOLVED] Re: old entries in sources.list?

On 2025-06-20 at 11:30, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Fri, Jun 20, 2025 at 11:06:51AM -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote: >> You will absolutely lose your sshd_config when the package is >> upgraded and you choose the maintainers version of the file. > > No. > > You will be asked, as for every conffile

Re: [SOLVED] Re: old entries in sources.list?

On Fri, Jun 20, 2025 at 11:06:51AM -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > On Fri, Jun 20, 2025 at 10:37 AM Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > > On Fri, Jun 20, 2025 at 10:15:47 -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > > > SSH config files are located in /etc, too. But admins are expected to > > > make changes to /etc/ssh/s

Re: [SOLVED] Re: old entries in sources.list?

On Fri, Jun 20, 2025 at 10:37 AM Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Fri, Jun 20, 2025 at 10:15:47 -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > > SSH config files are located in /etc, too. But admins are expected to > > make changes to /etc/ssh/sshd_config.d/, and not /etc/ssh/sshd_config. > > That's definitely false.

Re: [SOLVED] Re: old entries in sources.list?

On Fri, Jun 20, 2025 at 10:15:47 -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > SSH config files are located in /etc, too. But admins are expected to > make changes to /etc/ssh/sshd_config.d/, and not /etc/ssh/sshd_config. That's definitely false.

Re: [SOLVED] Re: old entries in sources.list?

On Fri, Jun 20, 2025 at 2:28 AM wrote: > > On Thu, Jun 19, 2025 at 05:40:24PM -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > > [...] > > > It might be worth mentioning that if the package owns sources.list, > > then you should not edit it. You should allow the package maintainer > > to edit or replace sources.lis

Re: [SOLVED] Re: old entries in sources.list

On Fri 20 Jun 2025 at 08:28:11 (+0200), to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Thu, Jun 19, 2025 at 05:40:24PM -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > > [...] > > > It might be worth mentioning that if the package owns sources.list, > > then you should not edit it. You should allow the package maintainer > > to edi

Re: strange behaviour in LibreOffice Calc save to CSV

On Wed 18/06/2025 at 13:15, Gary Dale wrote: > If I open a .csv file containing e-mail addresses then save it back as a > .csv, underscores and "@" get translated into a character code. It does > this whether I use save or save as. > > However, if I check the box in the save as dialog to edit th

Re: [SOLVED] Re: old entries in sources.list?

On Thu, Jun 19, 2025 at 05:40:24PM -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote: [...] > It might be worth mentioning that if the package owns sources.list, > then you should not edit it. You should allow the package maintainer > to edit or replace sources.list. Place your changes in > /etc/apt/sources.list.d/.

Re: strange behaviour in LibreOffice Calc save to CSV

On 18/06/2025 19:15, Gary Dale wrote: If I open a .csv file containing e-mail addresses then save it back as a .csv, underscores and "@" get translated into a character code. It does this whether I use save or save as. However, if I check the box in the save as dialog to edit the filter setti

Re: [SOLVED] Re: old entries in sources.list

On Thu 19 Jun 2025 at 17:40:24 (-0400), Jeffrey Walton wrote: > It might be worth mentioning that if the package owns sources.list, > then you should not edit it. You should allow the package maintainer > to edit or replace sources.list. Place your changes in > /etc/apt/sources.list.d/. > > But ag

Re: [SOLVED] Re: old entries in sources.list?

On Thu, Jun 19, 2025 at 2:59 PM Hans wrote: > > > If the packaging system wants to remove a package that came from > > oldstable for dependency reasons, having oldstable sources listed > > won't change that. > > > > Some old packages (usually versioned libraries) are kept around forever > > and do

Re: [SOLVED] Re: old entries in sources.list?

Andrew M.A. Cater writes: > Use apt / apt-get options for safe upgrade - to upgrade the minimum > set of packages. Log the output of the safe-upgrade command (normally just "apt upgrade") and read the log before giving the next command. > Do an apt-get dist-upgrade / apt full-upgrade And again,

Re: [SOLVED] Re: old entries in sources.list?

On Thu, Jun 19, 2025 at 05:27:55PM +0200, Hans wrote: > > Thank you very much for your very usefull informations. It answers all my > questions and worries I had. > > So, "best" way is to remove the old entries and use only trixie-related ones. > Best way: Bring the system up to date on the o

Re: virt-manager and networking

On Fri, 6 Jun 2025 12:10:25 -0600 Charles Curley wrote: > I'm setting up a new machine running trixie to run virtual machines, > using virt-manager. virt-manager sets up a natted network for the > virtual machines. > > Is it possible to set things up so that the virtual machines are on > the sam

[SOLVED] Re: old entries in sources.list?

> If the packaging system wants to remove a package that came from > oldstable for dependency reasons, having oldstable sources listed > won't change that. > > Some old packages (usually versioned libraries) are kept around forever > and don't cause any problems. They just sit on your hard drive

Re: old entries in sources.list?

On Thu, Jun 19, 2025 at 16:57:11 +0200, Hans wrote: > Which of one I should not do? The advice is only to include sources for the current stable release, and not for any older releases. > I fear, that when deleting any entries of the previous release, it might want > to deinstall packages ("app

Re: old entries in sources.list?

> > Better means, "delete/comment all bookworm entries" or "leave entries > > for bookworm and trixie for a while in parallel"? > > Don't do that, as you might install older packages that aren't in the > current release which give you certain dependency errors. Which of one I should not do? I f

Re: Trixie hangs during boot after upgrade

Am Donnerstag, 19. Juni 2025, 15:38:46 Mitteleuropäische Sommerzeit schrieb Rainer Dorsch: > Hi, > > I upgraded to Trixie some weeks back and had no serious issues during all > upgrades so far. After the upgrade today, I rebooted and the Trixie system > failed to boot. I still can open a root she

Re: old entries in sources.list?

On 2025-06-19 14:40, Hans wrote: Hi all, I have a simple question, which aways appear with a new debian-version. When a new version is official released (let`s say: from bookworm to trixie), what is best way to edit the sources.list? Better means, "delete/comment all bookworm entries" or "leav

Re: Dada Mail

On 6/18/25 18:54, Tom Browder wrote: Once again I'm looking for a *simple, easy to manage* mailing list. Any of you folks use Dada Mail? For marketing purposes. -Tom MailMan or you could also use freelist.org. -- John Doe

Re: double sound from T-bird

On Wed, Jun 18, 2025 at 12:26 PM Eben King wrote: > > Hi, I have Thunderbird 128.11 on Debian 12.11 (Bookworm). Thunderbird > works fine (well, except for trailing spaces) but when I get mail it > plays the new mail sound twice, a few ms apart. Sometimes it sounds > like a flanger effect, someti

Re: Firefox doesn't (really) load pages on Debian Bookworm

On 2025-06-17 4:36 PM, Nikolay Tychina wrote: Hello everyone! Please help me to fix Firefox - it just stopped working a while ago. And by that I mean that it sometimes - most of the times - won't load web pages, or it takes a really long time before it finally loads pages. Open FF's Web Develo

Re: Firefox doesn't (really) load pages on Debian Bookworm

On Tue, Jun 17, 2025 at 11:36:15PM +0300, Nikolay Tychina wrote: > $ cat /etc/debian_version > 12.11 > $ dpkg -l | grep firefox > ii  firefox-esr 128.11.0esr-1~deb12u1 That is what I have - I do not have any problems with FF taking a long time to load pages. Network timeouts are sometimes due to

Re: how to delete attachments in PDFs [SOLVED]

Thank you all for your replies. I finally could delete them with qpdf(1) with the dedicated long-option --remove-attachment Best wishes, Jerome On 17/06/2025 19:42, Jerome BENOIT wrote: Hello, I have a PDF file with undesirable attachments: is there a simple way to delete them ? Thanks in ad

Re: how to delete attachments in PDFs

PDF Document * Unpack PDF Attachments * Burst a PDF Document into Single Pages * Uncompress and Re-Compress Page Streams * Repair Corrupted PDF (Where Possible) "Detach" doesn't appear in the list. The "unpack_files" operation copies attachments into separate files. It's not clear whether "burst" does with attached files.

Re: how to delete attachments in PDFs

Jerome BENOIT wrote: > Hi Dan, thanks for your reply. > > I should precise that the PDF was downloaded. > The poppler-utils package contains: * pdfdetach -- lists or extracts embedded files (attachments) * pdfseparate -- page extraction tool * pdfunite -- document merging tool Which tog

Re: how to delete attachments in PDFs

On Tue, Jun 17, 2025 at 02:21:04PM -0400, Dan Purgert wrote: > On Jun 17, 2025, Jerome BENOIT wrote: > > Hi Dan, thanks for your reply. > > > > I should precise that the PDF was downloaded. > > Then you're most likely stuck with it. PDF isn't really "editable" in > that sense (ignoring Adobe Acro

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