On Mon, May 27, 2002 at 10:05:28AM +1000, John wrote:
> Ron Johnson wrote:
> >On Sat, 2002-05-25 at 08:37, Paul Johnson wrote:
> >>On Sat, May 25, 2002 at 04:46:29AM -0700, Craig Dickson wrote:
> >>
> >[snip]
> >
> >>To make an observation, Americans have this bizarre superiority complex.
> >>Oreg
On Monday 27 May 2002 19:52, you wrote:
> on Mon, May 27, 2002, Daniel Toffetti ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > On Monday 27 May 2002 08:37, Paul Johnson wrote:
> > > On Sun, May 26, 2002 at 09:42:06PM -0500, Dale Hair wrote:
>
> I think it's safe to say this has little or nothing to do with
> Debia
You're right, I forgot how I got into this thread, I think it was the
beer. I just poured myself a shot of Bushmills, an Irish whisky.
Memorial Day weekend is over and I'm facing the alligators again in the
morning.
> I've pointed this out off-list to several participants.
>
> This discussion i
Daniel Toffetti wrote:
On Monday 27 May 2002 08:37, Paul Johnson wrote:
On Sun, May 26, 2002 at 09:42:06PM -0500, Dale Hair wrote:
Most Americans tend to be isolationists and pacifists, it took
Pearl Harbor to "awaken the sleeping giant". It actually created a
giant "superpower" as we like
on Mon, May 27, 2002, Thomas Good ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> On Sun, 26 May 2002, Ian D. Stewart wrote:
>
> > Oh, that's nothing. You should see what the Yanks do to folks they
> > really don't like (hint: do a Google search for 'Sherman March Sea').
> > You wanna talk about bitter? South C
At 06:49 PM 5/27/02 -0400, Scott Henson wrote:
>WOW, sponsor one coup and everyone thinks your the bad guy. ;-)
>
ONE? if only!
I think the resentment is cause by a heady mix of cavalier US Government's
and a population that doesn't care what suffering its government causes
beyond the USA's borde
On Mon, 2002-05-27 at 17:54, Keith Willoughby wrote:
> Dale Hair <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > > CIA's "School of the Americas" trained military men from most countries
> > > in South America in torturing and dirty war techniques. US supported
> > > economically and politically all of the co
Dale Hair <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > CIA's "School of the Americas" trained military men from most countries
> > in South America in torturing and dirty war techniques. US supported
> > economically and politically all of the coups d'etat during the '70s,
> > mainly to stop the lefty polit
> This contradiction is only apparent.
> While it's perhaps true that most citizen of the USA (*) are pacifist,
> most of them are also unaware of what their government _actually_ do in
> the matter of foriegn affairs.
This is true, but I think most US citizens prefer to not know these
things,
On Monday 27 May 2002 08:37, Paul Johnson wrote:
> On Sun, May 26, 2002 at 09:42:06PM -0500, Dale Hair wrote:
> > Most Americans tend to be isolationists and pacifists, it took
> > Pearl Harbor to "awaken the sleeping giant". It actually created a
> > giant "superpower" as we like to refer to ours
On Monday 27 May 2002 05:02 am, Thomas Good wrote:
[snip]
> I've come to regard (former President) Jimmy Carter as a sort of Yank
> version of Gandhi. He works hard to help people in need (Habitat for
> Humanity), uses his influence for the common good (trying to normalise
> relations with Castro)
On 2002.05.27 08:02 Thomas Good wrote:
On Sun, 26 May 2002, Ian D. Stewart wrote:
> Oh, that's nothing. You should see what the Yanks do to folks they
> really don't like (hint: do a Google search for 'Sherman March
Sea').
> You wanna talk about bitter? South Carolina's unofficial state
motto
On Mon, May 27, 2002 at 08:02:33AM -0400, Thomas Good wrote:
> But our behaviour as a nation is still young and foolish - maybe if
> our elected officials served their country rather than their wallets
> we would mature as nation, at a faster pace. I think the lacking
Unfortunately, the legisl
I just realized I started this thread, several topics ago!
> Nothing like militaristic Nazi Germany will happen again
> while the US is the lone "hyperpower".
Unless fascism takes root in the United States itself. Please read my essay
"Is This the America I Love"
http://www.goingware.com/not
On Sun, 26 May 2002, Ian D. Stewart wrote:
> Oh, that's nothing. You should see what the Yanks do to folks they
> really don't like (hint: do a Google search for 'Sherman March Sea').
> You wanna talk about bitter? South Carolina's unofficial state motto
> is 'WE didn't surrender'
Ian,
I'
Would you "deep thinker" mind taking this tread offline.
Or maybe start a new list "debian-soapbox
Thanks,
David
> On Sun, May 26, 2002 at 10:21:46PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
>
>> Nothing like militaristic Nazi Germany will happen again
>> while the US is the lone "hyperpower".
>
> There's t
On Sun, May 26, 2002 at 10:21:46PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
> Nothing like militaristic Nazi Germany will happen again
> while the US is the lone "hyperpower".
There's that superiority complex again.
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On Sun, May 26, 2002 at 09:42:06PM -0500, Dale Hair wrote:
> Most Americans tend to be isolationists and pacifists, it took Pearl
> Harbor to "awaken the sleeping giant". It actually created a giant
> "superpower" as we like to refer to ourselves. Then on Sept. 11 the
> giant awoke again. If so
>> Ron Johnson wrote:
>Still, wrong hemisphere, wrong ruler...
>
>Do Aussies have the concept of New World and Old World? Is it
>still the RAN, the RAAF, etc?
>
Still loyal soldiers of the Queen.
the airforce is RAAF, navy is RAN, the army is the Australian Army, but the
fighting units are all s
On Mon, 2002-05-27 at 00:02, Travis Crump wrote:
> Ron Johnson wrote:
> > On Sun, 2002-05-26 at 22:56, Craig Dickson wrote:
> >
> >>begin John Griffiths quotation:
> >>
> >>
> (A _continent_ got the crap bombed out of it?
> >>>
> >>>just darwin
> >>
> >>So Hitler was a creationist?
> >
On Mon, 2002-05-27 at 00:01, John Griffiths wrote:
> >Last I checked Germany and Australia were both in the Eastern Hemisphere...
> >
> >
>
> oh we are S OT
>
> anyway only one nation on earth divides the world into US and THEM and
> calls it the western and eastern hemispheres.
?
> I g
On Sun, 2002-05-26 at 23:02, Ian D. Stewart wrote:
> On 2002.05.26 23:21 Ron Johnson wrote:
> > On Sun, 2002-05-26 at 21:42, Dale Hair wrote:
> > >
> > > > Actually, the USA was asked to help Australia in 1939. We had the
> > crap
> > > > bombed out of us. After Pearl Harbour the USA decided that O
>Last I checked Germany and Australia were both in the Eastern Hemisphere...
>
>
oh we are S OT
anyway only one nation on earth divides the world into US and THEM and
calls it the western and eastern hemispheres.
I guess you'd be from the USA then?
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Ron Johnson wrote:
On Sun, 2002-05-26 at 22:56, Craig Dickson wrote:
begin John Griffiths quotation:
(A _continent_ got the crap bombed out of it?
just darwin
So Hitler was a creationist?
Wrong hemisphere (actually 2 wrong hemispheres), wrong ruler...
Last I checked Germany
Ian D. Stewart wrote:
On 2002.05.26 23:04 Ron Johnson wrote:
On Sun, 2002-05-26 at 21:11, John Griffiths wrote:
> >(A _continent_ got the crap bombed out of it?
>
> just darwin
Darwinians (Darwinites?) obviously didn't like it much,
but it's an awful huge leap from "Darwin got the crap bo
On 2002.05.26 23:04 Ron Johnson wrote:
On Sun, 2002-05-26 at 21:11, John Griffiths wrote:
> >(A _continent_ got the crap bombed out of it?
>
> just darwin
Darwinians (Darwinites?) obviously didn't like it much,
but it's an awful huge leap from "Darwin got the crap bombed
out of it" to "we go
On 2002.05.26 23:21 Ron Johnson wrote:
On Sun, 2002-05-26 at 21:42, Dale Hair wrote:
>
> > Actually, the USA was asked to help Australia in 1939. We had the
crap
> > bombed out of us. After Pearl Harbour the USA decided that Oz was
a
> > great place to base a lot of Operations.
>
> Most Americans
On Sun, 2002-05-26 at 22:56, Craig Dickson wrote:
> begin John Griffiths quotation:
>
> > >(A _continent_ got the crap bombed out of it?
> >
> > just darwin
>
> So Hitler was a creationist?
Wrong hemisphere (actually 2 wrong hemispheres), wrong ruler...
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begin John Griffiths quotation:
> >(A _continent_ got the crap bombed out of it?
>
> just darwin
So Hitler was a creationist?
(Sorry, couldn't resist.)
Craig
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On Sun, 2002-05-26 at 21:42, Dale Hair wrote:
>
> > Actually, the USA was asked to help Australia in 1939. We had the crap
> > bombed out of us. After Pearl Harbour the USA decided that Oz was a
> > great place to base a lot of Operations.
>
> Most Americans tend to be isolationists and pacifis
On Sun, 2002-05-26 at 21:11, John Griffiths wrote:
> >(A _continent_ got the crap bombed out of it?
>
> just darwin
Darwinians (Darwinites?) obviously didn't like it much,
but it's an awful huge leap from "Darwin got the crap bombed
out of it" to "we got the crap bombed out of us". (Unles
> Actually, the USA was asked to help Australia in 1939. We had the crap
> bombed out of us. After Pearl Harbour the USA decided that Oz was a
> great place to base a lot of Operations.
Most Americans tend to be isolationists and pacifists, it took Pearl
Harbor to "awaken the sleeping giant".
On Sun, 2002-05-26 at 19:38, Ian D. Stewart wrote:
> On 2002.05.26 20:05 John wrote:
>
> >
> > There's a lot of Aussies still pretty bitter about how hard it was to
> > get the Yanks to abandon the idea of giving nearly half the contenent
> > to the Empire. We sometimes wonder if that's what ou
>(A _continent_ got the crap bombed out of it?
just darwin
>Very strong internal isolationist sentiments allowed even
>Lend-Lease to only pass Congress after major arm-twisting by
>Roosevelt. The only reason the the USN was able to help
>with GB in the BoA before 07-Dec was by not making
On Sun, 2002-05-26 at 19:05, John wrote:
> Ron Johnson wrote:
>
> >On Sat, 2002-05-25 at 08:37, Paul Johnson wrote:
> >
> >>On Sat, May 25, 2002 at 04:46:29AM -0700, Craig Dickson wrote:
> >>
> >[snip]
> >
> >>To make an observation, Americans have this bizarre superiority complex.
> >>Oregonians
On 2002.05.26 20:05 John wrote:
There's a lot of Aussies still pretty bitter about how hard it was to
get the Yanks to abandon the idea of giving nearly half the contenent
to the Empire. We sometimes wonder if that's what our allies are like
what would we expect in say an invasion from Cimme
Ron Johnson wrote:
On Sat, 2002-05-25 at 08:37, Paul Johnson wrote:
On Sat, May 25, 2002 at 04:46:29AM -0700, Craig Dickson wrote:
[snip]
To make an observation, Americans have this bizarre superiority complex.
Oregonians, and to a lesser degree, Idahoans, tend to look in from the
It's
On Sun, 2002-05-26 at 06:57, Thomas Good wrote:
> On Sat, 25 May 2002, Paul Johnson wrote:
>
> > On Sun, May 26, 2002 at 12:02:35AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
[snip]
> By the way gents, there was no helicopter involved at Kent State.
2 days before the Massacre, there was a helicopter used to
try a
On Fri, May 24, 2002 at 07:34:51PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote:
> of sharp turns, short but steep hills and one-lane corduroy bridges.
They make bridges out of corduroy? Wow, Canada's even weirder than
I'd heard...;)
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On Sun, May 26, 2002 at 07:57:27AM -0400, Thomas Good wrote:
> about this insensitive behaviour. This sort of thing is not taught
> in American schools perhaps because it is seemingly at odds with our
> democratic principles. The less polished side of US history is covered
> well by Howard Zinn
On Sat, 25 May 2002, Paul Johnson wrote:
> On Sun, May 26, 2002 at 12:02:35AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
>
> > > home and abroad. And it was still a cheap shot for the national gaurd
> > > to open fire from a helicopter on an unarmed, peaceful war protest.
> >
> > You aren't talking about
On Sun, 2002-05-26 at 00:41, Paul Johnson wrote:
> On Sun, May 26, 2002 at 12:02:35AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
>
> > > home and abroad. And it was still a cheap shot for the national gaurd
> > > to open fire from a helicopter on an unarmed, peaceful war protest.
> >
> > You aren't talkin
begin Craig Dickson quotation:
> (Hah. NOW we'll have a flamewar.)
Look, guys, it was a JOKE. J - O - K - E. JOKE. Not meant to be taken
seriously.
Craig
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> On Sat, May 25, 2002 at 11:12:37AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
>
>> It's not a "bizarre" superiority complex. May not be valid,
>> but certainly not "bizarre". I can list 1,000 US accomplish-
>> ments, not the least of which is making sure that Aussies aren't
>> not speaking Japanese, and the Bri
On Sun, May 26, 2002 at 12:02:35AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
> > home and abroad. And it was still a cheap shot for the national gaurd
> > to open fire from a helicopter on an unarmed, peaceful war protest.
>
> You aren't talking about Kent State are you?
I think that's where it was, I c
On Sat, 2002-05-25 at 22:29, Paul Johnson wrote:
> On Sat, May 25, 2002 at 11:12:37AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
>
> > It's not a "bizarre" superiority complex. May not be valid,
> > but certainly not "bizarre". I can list 1,000 US accomplish-
> > ments, not the least of which is making sure that
On Sat, 2002-05-25 at 23:29, Paul Johnson wrote:
> As much as US action was admirable during World War II, I've noticed
> that pretty much every American accomplishment mentioned in casual
> conversation is extremely violent, and yet Americans still refer to
> America as a peace-loving nation. Ri
On Sat, May 25, 2002 at 11:12:37AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
> It's not a "bizarre" superiority complex. May not be valid,
> but certainly not "bizarre". I can list 1,000 US accomplish-
> ments, not the least of which is making sure that Aussies aren't
> not speaking Japanese, and the Brits now
On Sat, May 25, 2002 at 01:00:51PM -0300, Daniel Toffetti wrote:
> Not only that, nobody even DARED to post complaining "stay on topic,
> please !"... :)
My only real disappointment is the subject line I put on when the topic
changed didn't stick...
apt-get install debian-beer
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On Sat, 2002-05-25 at 08:37, Paul Johnson wrote:
> On Sat, May 25, 2002 at 04:46:29AM -0700, Craig Dickson wrote:
[snip]
> To make an observation, Americans have this bizarre superiority complex.
> Oregonians, and to a lesser degree, Idahoans, tend to look in from the
It's not a "bizarre" superio
> > If you want to spend less than US $30, then unless you find a real
> > bargain somewhere, you're stuck with California sparkling wines, in
> > which case Domain Chandon is a reasonable choice.
>
> We've sampled Gloria Ferrer Fridays at work, it's passable dry
> bubbly. I should ask around for s
On Sat, May 25, 2002 at 04:46:29AM -0700, Craig Dickson wrote:
> Actually, the amazing thing is that it hasn't been a flamewar at all,
> aside from a few mildly inflammatory remarks from Australians and
> Canadians (two countries whose inhabitants are well-known for their
> inferiority complexes).
On Sat, May 25, 2002 at 07:05:16AM -0400, Thomas Good wrote:
> function as a diuretic. Perhaps it was spawned from the same mentality
> that produced such wonders as "naugahyde" and fake leather (leatherette?)
> jackets. In fact I easily envision a bar full of vinyl clad patrons
> sipping Bud li
begin Karsten M. Self quotation:
> I'm coming up with another reason to recommend Debian: what _other_
> distro has 100+ post flamewars on beer?
Actually, the amazing thing is that it hasn't been a flamewar at all,
aside from a few mildly inflammatory remarks from Australians and
Canadians (tw
On Fri, 24 May 2002, Paul Johnson wrote:
> There's just not a lot you can do with an American standard or a lager
> beer to make it better. Canadians just manage to do a little better
> than Americans do at both, though. But then again, there's very little
> that Canada doesn't do better than th
On Sat, 2002-05-25 at 09:49, Paul Johnson wrote:
> On Sat, May 25, 2002 at 01:40:07AM -0700, Karsten M. Self wrote:
>
> > Pity there's nobody on the list living in Napa serving the wine
> > industry
>
> Or Oregon, for those of us who avoid sending money to California.
>
> > I'm coming up wit
On Sat, May 25, 2002 at 01:40:07AM -0700, Karsten M. Self wrote:
> Pity there's nobody on the list living in Napa serving the wine
> industry
Or Oregon, for those of us who avoid sending money to California.
> I'm coming up with another reason to recommend Debian: what _other_
> distro has
on Thu, May 23, 2002, Craig Dickson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Glyn Millington wrote:
>
> > When woody emerges, what's the best champagne?
>
> By definition, one from Champagne, France -- anything else is not
> champagne, only sparkling wine (not that that can't be good; I'm just
> being picky
On Fri, May 24, 2002 at 10:15:31PM -0500, Dale Hair wrote:
> Agreed on the American lager, but are you throwing German lagers in
> there also. I really enjoy ales, especially dark ales, I'm in unison
> with Craig Dickson's opinions posted on his site.
I'm just going on what I've experianced. Ge
>
> There's just not a lot you can do with an American standard or a lager
> beer to make it better.
Agreed on the American lager, but are you throwing German lagers in
there also. I really enjoy ales, especially dark ales, I'm in unison
with Craig Dickson's opinions posted on his site.
Howeve
On Fri, May 24, 2002 at 06:48:42AM -0700, Cam Ellison wrote:
> Offerings from the large commercial breweries vary (with the exception
> of Keith's and Moosehead -- I'm not familiar with Unibroue) from
> barely acceptable to plain awful -- one produces Budweiser under
> license, which strikes me as
* Craig Dickson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Daniel Toffetti wrote:
>
> > > > > > No, no, no. American beer is American beer. Come to England and
> > > > > > try a decent bitter or ale sometime ...
> > > >
> > > > If they are close to the Irish Guinness, I'll follow you :)
> > >
> > > No no no no.
Javier Bertoli writes:
> I'm seriously thinking on brewing my own!
I've done that. It isn't hard.
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On Tue, 21 May 2002, Daniel Toffetti wrote:
> > > No, no, no. American beer is American beer. Come to England and try
> > > a decent bitter or ale sometime ...
>
> If they are close to the Irish Guinness, I'll follow you :)
>
> I used to buy a can of Guinness from time to time, but life went very
On Thu, May 23, 2002 at 09:41:24PM -0500, John Hasler wrote:
> Tom writes:
> > Could we sue Fosters' for defamation?
>
> You should. It's the only Australian beer most Americans (including me)
> have ever tasted, and most assume that it is representative.
I assumed that, myself, and I try to ass
On Fri, May 24, 2002 at 08:39:21AM +1000, John wrote:
> Actually, when I was working in California I discovered that the
> Foster's there is brewed under license in Canada. I actually had a lot
> of fun when Americans would try to sell me Fosters - I'd pull out my ID
> and tell them "I'm Mr Fost
On Thu, May 23, 2002 at 12:33:38PM -0700, Craig Dickson wrote:
> Guinness's cans even have a little gadget inside to pump up the head as
> you pour it out.
Interesting... are there any good pictures on the web of a Guinness can
disected? My roommates aren't into Guinness (preferring Moosehead, b
Tom writes:
> Could we sue Fosters' for defamation?
You should. It's the only Australian beer most Americans (including me)
have ever tasted, and most assume that it is representative.
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At 2002-05-24T00:46:44Z, Tom Cook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Hmmm. Could we sue Fosters' for defamation?
Probably. I visited Perth in '94 (courtesy of the U.S. Navy), and found
your beer both your beer and your inhabitants to be perfectly enjoyable. :)
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On 0, Kirk Strauser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> At 2002-05-23T00:56:50Z, Wienand Ian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > Where do people get the impression that Foster's is an Australian beer
>
> Probably from the cheesy commercials on American TV:
>
> Title: "How to speak Australian"
>
Ah, well, now you get down to the point of it all...
On 0, Gary Turner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, 23 May 2002 08:56:05 +0930, Tom Cook wrote:
[snip]
> >be impartial here, we Australians do a damn good beer. It's not
>
> OK. I won't judge by Foster's. Certainly not an exemplar.
No.
Paul Johnson wrote:
On Thu, May 23, 2002 at 10:23:23AM +0930, Tom Cook wrote:
Oh, good Lord, no. No no no no no. Fosters is what we _export_. Try
to find Coopers' Ales (pale or dark), Carlton United Breweries Crown
Lager or Cold Filtered. Don't *ever* drink Australian beer from a
can, it's
Glyn Millington wrote:
> When woody emerges, what's the best champagne?
By definition, one from Champagne, France -- anything else is not
champagne, only sparkling wine (not that that can't be good; I'm just
being picky about the nomenclature -- then again, I've yet to find a
"sparkling wine" to
begin Ron Johnson quotation:
> Czech beers are tops. Staropraman 12 is the uber-beer. Too
> bad it's not available stateside. The pasteurization and
> travel across the pond in big, hot cargo ships would probably
> kill the taste...
That may explain why I have not been particularly impressed
John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Rich Puhek writes:
>> Sam Adams has some good stuff. Leinenkeugel (sp?) from Wisconsin is
>> pretty good too.
>
> Leinenkugel's.
Leinenkugel's, schmeinenkugels!! When woody emerges, what's the best
champagne?
Glyn
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Rich Puhek writes:
> Sam Adams has some good stuff. Leinenkeugel (sp?) from Wisconsin is
> pretty good too.
Leinenkugel's.
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On Thu, 2002-05-23 at 13:06, Rich Puhek wrote:
> Gary Turner wrote:
> >
[snip]
> > German imports to the US are good to very good for the most part.
> > Haven't found an outstanding brew (yet).
>
> German beer doesn't really count if it leaves the country. Gotta try one
> of the local brews, non-
Gary Turner wrote:
>
> Guiness absolutely sets the standard, especially if you can find it on
> tap and nitrogen charged. I've been favorably impressed by some other
> Irish beers (but not recently nor often enough to name names).
>
...But with Guiness you need to use a fork to drink your beer!
At 2002-05-23T00:56:50Z, Wienand Ian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Where do people get the impression that Foster's is an Australian beer
Probably from the cheesy commercials on American TV:
Title: "How to speak Australian"
Pictures of surfers. Underwater shot of a shark.
Voiceover: "Gupp
begin Paul 'Baloo' Johnson quotation:
> Have you had Moosehead?
Don't think so. If you say it's worthwhile, I will try it.
> > In case anyone is curious, my reviews of beers are available at my web
> > site, http://crdic.ath.cx . They are also posted (along with those of
>
> That's a pretty g
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> German imports to the US are good to very good for the most part.
> Haven't found an outstanding brew (yet).
Admittedly I'm biased towards dark beers, but I find Ayinger Celebrator
and Spaten Optimator to be excellent. Paulaner Salvator is a little
sweeter, but st
On Thu, May 23, 2002 at 10:56:50AM +1000, Wienand Ian wrote:
> Where do people get the impression that Foster's is an Australian beer
Fosters has been running an ad campaign for the last few years that
always starts with "How to speak Australian" and always ends with
"Fosters, Australian for
On Thu, May 23, 2002 at 10:23:23AM +0930, Tom Cook wrote:
> Oh, good Lord, no. No no no no no. Fosters is what we _export_. Try
> to find Coopers' Ales (pale or dark), Carlton United Breweries Crown
> Lager or Cold Filtered. Don't *ever* drink Australian beer from a
> can, it's just not worth
On Thu, 23 May 2002 08:56:05 +0930, Tom Cook wrote:
>On 0, Daniel Toffetti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
snip
>Oh boy, here comes a flame war...
>
>
>The Irish, without a shadow of a doubt, make the best beer in the
>world. They are just damn good at it. After them, and I am trying to
Guiness abs
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On Wed, 22 May 2002, Craig Dickson wrote:
> Meanwhile, most Canadian beer is nearly as bad as American
> macro-breweries; the only really good Canadian brewery I know of is
> Unibroue, which is in Quebec and therefore only nominally Canadian.
Have yo
On Wed, May 22, 2002 at 08:07:23PM -0500, John Hasler wrote:
| BTW spamassassin has started marking this thread SPAM.
Really? It got -4.4 on my system (IN_REP_TO).
| A hint?
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Word has no place in our lives.
> I'm told by natives that Fosters isn't Australian for "Beer", it's
> Australian for "Budwiser".
After a hard day in the Texas heat the first budweiser actually tastes
good, probably the same goes for Fosters in Australia.
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The Wig & Pen in Canberra au brews their own ale, especially 'Creamy Ale'
{:), which is like a white guinness, almost as thick as Guinness and has a
hint of caramel depending on that months brew.
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On Wed, May 22, 2002 at 07:00:34PM -0500, Dale Hair wrote:
> Can you give me an example of good Aussie beer that might be available
> in the US. The only one I can think of is Fosters, I wasn't overly
> impressed with it (as in I will drink one, but I won't buy one).
I'm told by natives that
Wienand writes:
> Where do people get the impression that Foster's is an Australian beer??
>From the same place that they get the impression that Budweiser is the only
beer available in the US, most likely.
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>I rank Foster's, the only Australian beer I've tried, just a bit above
>Budweiser.
Where do people get the impression that Foster's is an Australian beer
I'd never even had the misfortune of drinking a Foster's till during the
Olympics, when it seems they started to pay some pubs in the city
On 0, Dale Hair <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Oh boy, here comes a flame war...
> >
> >
> > The Irish, without a shadow of a doubt, make the best beer in the
> > world. They are just damn good at it. After them, and I am trying to
> > be impartial here, we Australians do a damn good beer. It
Tom Cook writes:
> After them, and I am trying to be impartial here, we Australians do a
> damn good beer.
I rank Foster's, the only Australian beer I've tried, just a bit above
Budweiser.
> After that the whole world really goes to hell, with the French-speakers
> only not coming last because th
begin Tom Cook quotation:
> Oh boy, here comes a flame war...
No kidding.
>
> The Irish, without a shadow of a doubt, make the best beer in the
> world. They are just damn good at it. After them, and I am trying to
> be impartial here, we Australians do a damn good beer. It's not
> exotic,
> Oh boy, here comes a flame war...
>
>
> The Irish, without a shadow of a doubt, make the best beer in the
> world. They are just damn good at it. After them, and I am trying to
> be impartial here, we Australians do a damn good beer. It's not
> exotic, it doesn't have bits floating in it, it
On 0, Daniel Toffetti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> O> > > > > Beer is beer. Budwiser makes more beer because they have
> > > > > > bigger horses, that's all.
> > >
> > > Aaarrgghh !!! Hunt the heretic and put him in jail !! :-D
> > >
> > > > > No, no, no. American beer is American beer. Come
Daniel Toffetti wrote:
> > > > > No, no, no. American beer is American beer. Come to England and
> > > > > try a decent bitter or ale sometime ...
> > >
> > > If they are close to the Irish Guinness, I'll follow you :)
> >
> > No no no no. This guys having you on. Ale and bitter are a practic
>
O> > > > > Beer is beer. Budwiser makes more beer because they have
> > > > > bigger horses, that's all.
> >
> > Aaarrgghh !!! Hunt the heretic and put him in jail !! :-D
> >
> > > > No, no, no. American beer is American beer. Come to England and
> > > > try a decent bitter or ale sometime ...
On Tue, May 21, 2002 at 12:45:09PM -0300, Daniel Toffetti wrote:
> > > > > [1] There's a difference between American beer and Oregonian
> > > > > beer, though, Widmer Brothers and McMenamins are still good;
> > > > > Henry Weinhards used to be good until they sold out to Miller,
> > > > > they're b
> > > > [1] There's a difference between American beer and Oregonian
> > > > beer, though, Widmer Brothers and McMenamins are still good;
> > > > Henry Weinhards used to be good until they sold out to Miller,
> > > > they're brewed out of St. Louis and the formula changed: it
> > > > tastes like Mi
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