Re: mail sig separator (was Re: BD backup?)

2024-11-25 Thread Jonathan Dowland
m mostly writing mail on the same machine as my MTA, to mostly writing it on my end-user machine). I don't know if I stopped using it at that point, but in either case, I'm currently using a different MUA (aerc) and I haven't yet investigated whether it does f=f. > Was it becau

Re: mail sig separator (was Re: BD backup?)

2024-11-21 Thread gene heskett
On 11/21/24 19:01, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Thu, Nov 21, 2024 at 18:32:38 -0500, gene heskett wrote: The =20 tells me its been converted to html style encoding some where. No, =20 is "quoted printable" encoding. It's extremely common for email; it can be used whenever the source content is HTM

Re: mail sig separator (was Re: BD backup?)

2024-11-21 Thread David Wright
On Wed 20 Nov 2024 at 11:35:28 (-0500), eben@… wrote: > On 11/20/24 10:49, David Wright wrote: > > On Tue 19 Nov 2024 at 19:41:25 (-0500), eben@… wrote: > > > On 11/19/24 10:31, Brad Rogers wrote: > > > > > Your sig separator arrives here as "--". If it leaves you as "-- ", > > > > which it seems

Re: mail sig separator (was Re: BD backup?)

2024-11-21 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, Nov 21, 2024 at 18:32:38 -0500, gene heskett wrote: > The =20 tells me its been converted to html style encoding some where. No, =20 is "quoted printable" encoding. It's extremely common for email; it can be used whenever the source content is HTML or plain text or a calendar invitation o

Re: mail sig separator (was Re: BD backup?)

2024-11-21 Thread gene heskett
otes my msg for context. Your agent is supposed to throw it away, not retransmitting it again and again. Your sig separator arrived as "-- " not "--=20".  Why the difference? The =20 tells me its been converted to html style encoding some where. Might be your settings, might be

Re: mail sig separator (was Re: BD backup?)

2024-11-21 Thread David Wright
On Thu 21 Nov 2024 at 10:11:56 (+0700), Max Nikulin wrote: > On 20/11/2024 22:20, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > > On Wed, Nov 20, 2024 at 10:13:20 -0500, eben wrote: > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed > > > > This line has one

Re: mail sig separator (was Re: BD backup?)

2024-11-21 Thread David Wright
On Thu 21 Nov 2024 at 14:38:02 (-0500), eben wrote: > On 11/21/24 11:46, eben wrote: > > On 11/21/24 11:07, eben wrote: > >> On 11/20/24 10:13, eben wrote: > >> > >>> Just for kicks: > >>> This line has no trailing spaces. > >>> This line has one trailing space. > >>> This line has two trailing spa

Re: mail sig separator (was Re: BD backup?)

2024-11-21 Thread eben
On 11/21/24 11:46, e...@gmx.us wrote: > On 11/21/24 11:07, e...@gmx.us wrote: >> On 11/20/24 10:13, e...@gmx.us wrote: >> >>> Just for kicks: >>> This line has no trailing spaces. >>> This line has one trailing space. >>> This line has two trailing spaces. >> >> OK, I changed "mail.html_compose" fr

Re: mail sig separator (was Re: BD backup?)

2024-11-21 Thread Brad Rogers
On Thu, 21 Nov 2024 11:46:01 -0500 e...@gmx.us wrote: Hello e...@gmx.us, >This is a long line that is more than seventy-two characters that >should end with a space. It is wrapped on my end. > >This is a long line that is more than seventy-two characters that >should end with two spaces. It is al

Re: mail sig separator (was Re: BD backup?)

2024-11-21 Thread eben
On 11/21/24 11:07, e...@gmx.us wrote: > On 11/20/24 10:13, e...@gmx.us wrote: > >> Just for kicks: >> This line has no trailing spaces. >> This line has one trailing space. >> This line has two trailing spaces. > > OK, I changed "mail.html_compose" from true to false.  Now to see if it > makes a di

Re: mail sig separator (was Re: BD backup?)

2024-11-21 Thread Brad Rogers
On Thu, 21 Nov 2024 11:07:07 -0500 e...@gmx.us wrote: Hello e...@gmx.us, >This line has no trailing spaces. >This line has one trailing space. >This line has two trailing spaces. No trailing spaces anywhere. Sorry. :-( -- Regards _ "Valid sig separator is {dash}{dash}{space}"

Re: mail sig separator (was Re: BD backup?)

2024-11-21 Thread eben
On 11/21/24 11:07, e...@gmx.us wrote: OK, I changed "mail.html_compose" from true to false.  Now to see if it makes a difference: This line has no trailing spaces. This line has one trailing space. This line has two trailing spaces. Narrator: It did not.

Re: mail sig separator (was Re: BD backup?)

2024-11-21 Thread eben
On 11/20/24 10:13, e...@gmx.us wrote: Just for kicks: This line has no trailing spaces. This line has one trailing space. This line has two trailing spaces. OK, I changed "mail.html_compose" from true to false. Now to see if it makes a difference: This line has no trailing spaces. This line

Re: mail sig separator (was Re: BD backup?)

2024-11-21 Thread tomas
On Thu, Nov 21, 2024 at 10:00:11AM -0500, e...@gmx.us wrote: > On 11/20/24 15:31, gene heskett wrote: > > On 11/20/24 15:16, gene heskett wrote: > > > On 11/20/24 11:24, e...@gmx.us wrote: > > > > On 11/20/24 10:20, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > > > On Wed, Nov 20, 2024 at 10:13:20 -0500, e...@gmx.us

Re: mail sig separator (was Re: BD backup?)

2024-11-21 Thread Max Nikulin
On 21/11/2024 10:11, Max Nikulin wrote: Eben, you may try to inspect sources of your messages ([Ctrl+U]) from sent and draft folders. Interesting, signature separator is lost by gmane, see w3m -m 'nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.linux.debian.user/622024' however it is present in USENET group and w

Re: mail sig separator (was Re: BD backup?)

2024-11-21 Thread eben
On 11/20/24 15:31, gene heskett wrote: On 11/20/24 15:16, gene heskett wrote: On 11/20/24 11:24, e...@gmx.us wrote: On 11/20/24 10:20, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Wed, Nov 20, 2024 at 10:13:20 -0500, e...@gmx.us wrote: Just for kicks: This line has no trailing spaces. This line has one trailing s

Re: mail sig separator (was Re: BD backup?)

2024-11-21 Thread John Crawley
On 21/11/2024 15:10, gene heskett wrote: That doesn't affect the dozens of miss-configured email agents here that violate those SOP's for text emails. My mail filter for debian-user seems to be working OK, everything sent to the right place. Maybe it's because I have fewer f

Re: mail sig separator (was Re: BD backup?)

2024-11-21 Thread gene heskett
post (like this). Which is how it should be. Meanwhile my sig is correctly added and (I've just checked) sent to another account's inbox with the trailing space after -- intact. So nothing here to blame on TB, at least for mail being sent between Thunderbirds. That (sigh) wa

Re: mail sig separator (was Re: BD backup?)

2024-11-20 Thread David Wright
On Tue 19 Nov 2024 at 15:32:47 (+), Jonathan Dowland wrote: > On Tue Nov 19, 2024 at 3:02 PM GMT, eben wrote: > > That is what I see in the message to which you replied. See the <1k > > attachment. This message also has a space. Is that not what you see? > > I'm afraid not. Looking at your

Re: mail sig separator (was Re: BD backup?)

2024-11-20 Thread gene heskett
he /r-- /r that triggers all this. It will be interesting how the above is treated when echo back from the server, which was the other half of my point. ;o) So nothing here to blame on TB, at least for mail being sent between Thunderbirds. That (sigh) was my point. That doesn't affect the

Re: mail sig separator (was Re: BD backup?)

2024-11-20 Thread John Crawley
correctly added and (I've just checked) sent to another account's inbox with the trailing space after -- intact. So nothing here to blame on TB, at least for mail being sent between Thunderbirds. -- John

Re: mail sig separator (was Re: BD backup?)

2024-11-20 Thread The Wanderer
On 2024-11-20 at 12:08, e...@gmx.us wrote: > On 11/20/24 11:37, The Wanderer wrote: > >> On 2024-11-20 at 11:24, e...@gmx.us wrote: >>> Does anyone using Thunderbird _not_ get trailing spaces stripped, >>> or is it just me? >> >> I don't (see signature below), but it may be worth noting that I

Re: mail sig separator (was Re: BD backup?)

2024-11-20 Thread Max Nikulin
On 20/11/2024 22:20, Greg Wooledge wrote: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Wed, Nov 20, 2024 at 10:13:20 -0500, eben wrote: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed This line has one trailing space. [...] This line has two leading and two trailing spaces.

Re: mail sig separator (was Re: BD backup?)

2024-11-20 Thread David Wright
On Wed 20 Nov 2024 at 11:35:28 (-0500), eben@… wrote: > > So, naturally you use an editor to compose your posts. > > Not sure why you would assume that, but let's run with it. How would I > configure Tbird do do such a thing? I see no relevant settings for "editor" > or "path" but maybe they're

Re: mail sig separator

2024-11-20 Thread Felix Miata
eben composed on 2024-11-20 12:08 (UTC-0500): > BTW I received your separator as "--=20". But that's once saved as eml. > Onscreen it looks fine, and the signature is greyed out. Anyone know how to > get a pure text version, if such a thing exists? Where is your .sig coming from? If it's in a p

Re: mail sig separator (was Re: BD backup?)

2024-11-20 Thread gene heskett
On 11/20/24 15:16, gene heskett wrote: On 11/20/24 11:24, e...@gmx.us wrote: On 11/20/24 10:20, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Wed, Nov 20, 2024 at 10:13:20 -0500, e...@gmx.us wrote: Just for kicks: This line has no trailing spaces. This line has one trailing space. This line has two trailing spaces.

Re: mail sig separator (was Re: BD backup?)

2024-11-20 Thread gene heskett
On 11/20/24 11:24, e...@gmx.us wrote: On 11/20/24 10:20, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Wed, Nov 20, 2024 at 10:13:20 -0500, e...@gmx.us wrote: Just for kicks: This line has no trailing spaces. This line has one trailing space. This line has two trailing spaces. In the message I received, none of th

Re: mail sig separator (was Re: BD backup?)

2024-11-20 Thread Charles Curley
On Wed, 20 Nov 2024 12:08:02 -0500 e...@gmx.us wrote: > Anyone know how to > get a pure text version, if such a thing exists? Possibly storing one's emails in maildir format. Each email is its own raw text file. Suitable grepping or use of mairix or the like should then locate particular messages

Re: mail sig separator (was Re: BD backup?)

2024-11-20 Thread tomas
I'm not willing to tolerate. It's far from > > impossible that changes in more recent Thunderbird versions might have > > broken this. > > This is true. What version? > > BTW I received your separator as "--=20". But that's once saved as eml. This is

Re: mail sig separator (was Re: BD backup?)

2024-11-20 Thread eben
On 11/20/24 11:37, The Wanderer wrote: On 2024-11-20 at 11:24, e...@gmx.us wrote: On 11/20/24 10:20, Greg Wooledge wrote: If I had to guess, I would guess that Thunderbird is composing HTML email, and then translating it to plain text, with trailing spaces being lost during that translation.

Re: mail sig separator (was Re: BD backup?)

2024-11-20 Thread eben
On 11/20/24 10:20, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Wed, Nov 20, 2024 at 10:13:20 -0500, e...@gmx.us wrote: Just for kicks: This line has no trailing spaces. This line has one trailing space. This line has two trailing spaces. In the message I received, none of these lines have any trailing spaces. D

Re: mail sig separator (was Re: BD backup?)

2024-11-20 Thread tomas
On Wed, Nov 20, 2024 at 09:49:58AM -0600, David Wright wrote: > On Tue 19 Nov 2024 at 19:41:25 (-0500), eben@… wrote: > > On 11/19/24 10:31, Brad Rogers wrote: > > > On Tue, 19 Nov 2024 10:02:59 -0500 eben@… wrote: > > > > > > > That is what I see in the message to which you replied. See the <1k

Re: mail sig separator (was Re: BD backup?)

2024-11-20 Thread eben
On 11/20/24 10:49, David Wright wrote: On Tue 19 Nov 2024 at 19:41:25 (-0500), eben@… wrote: On 11/19/24 10:31, Brad Rogers wrote: Your sig separator arrives here as "--". If it leaves you as "-- ", which it seems to be based on your attached image, I'm not sure what's happening. I guess u

Re: mail sig separator (was Re: BD backup?)

2024-11-20 Thread The Wanderer
On 2024-11-20 at 11:24, e...@gmx.us wrote: > On 11/20/24 10:20, Greg Wooledge wrote: >> If I had to guess, I would guess that Thunderbird is composing >> HTML email, and then translating it to plain text, with trailing >> spaces being lost during that translation. Including the trailing >> space

Re: mail sig separator (was Re: BD backup?)

2024-11-20 Thread David Wright
On Tue 19 Nov 2024 at 19:41:25 (-0500), eben@… wrote: > On 11/19/24 10:31, Brad Rogers wrote: > > On Tue, 19 Nov 2024 10:02:59 -0500 eben@… wrote: > > > > > That is what I see in the message to which you replied. See the <1k > > > attachment. This message also has a space. Is that not what you

Re: mail sig separator (was Re: BD backup?)

2024-11-20 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Nov 20, 2024 at 10:13:20 -0500, e...@gmx.us wrote: > Just for kicks: > This line has no trailing spaces. > This line has one trailing space. > This line has two trailing spaces. In the message I received, none of these lines have any trailing spaces. If I had to guess, I would guess that

Re: mail sig separator (was Re: BD backup?)

2024-11-20 Thread eben
On 11/20/24 00:29, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Tue, Nov 19, 2024 at 07:41:25PM -0500, e...@gmx.us wrote: On 11/19/24 10:31, Brad Rogers wrote: On Tue, 19 Nov 2024 10:02:59 -0500 e...@gmx.us wrote: Hello e...@gmx.us, That is what I see in the message to which you replied. See the <1k attachme

Re: mail sig separator (was Re: BD backup?)

2024-11-19 Thread Eric S Fraga
Response below/inline for email e...@gmx.us wrote: > (original email sent 19 Nov 2024 at 10:02) > > That is what I see in the message to which you replied. See the <1k > attachment. This message also has a space. Is that not what you see? Your post/email comes through without the space after t

Re: mail sig separator (was Re: BD backup?)

2024-11-19 Thread tomas
On Tue, Nov 19, 2024 at 07:41:25PM -0500, e...@gmx.us wrote: > On 11/19/24 10:31, Brad Rogers wrote: > > On Tue, 19 Nov 2024 10:02:59 -0500 > > e...@gmx.us wrote: > > > > Hello e...@gmx.us, > > > > > That is what I see in the message to which you replied. See the <1k > > > attachment. This mess

Re: mail sig separator (was Re: BD backup?)

2024-11-19 Thread eben
On 11/19/24 10:31, Brad Rogers wrote: On Tue, 19 Nov 2024 10:02:59 -0500 e...@gmx.us wrote: Hello e...@gmx.us, That is what I see in the message to which you replied. See the <1k attachment. This message also has a space. Is that not what you see? I see what Jonathan sees. Your sig separ

Re: mail sig separator (was Re: BD backup?)

2024-11-19 Thread Markus Schönhaber
19.11.24, 16:02 +0100 e...@gmx.us: > On 11/19/24 05:19, Jonathan Dowland wrote: >> Hi, >> >> On Sun Nov 17, 2024 at 7:05 PM GMT, eben wrote: >>> -- >> >> Just to point out that the mail signature separator is '-- ', i.e. with >> a suffixe

Re: mail sig separator (was Re: BD backup?)

2024-11-19 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Tue Nov 19, 2024 at 3:02 PM GMT, eben wrote: > That is what I see in the message to which you replied. See the <1k > attachment. This message also has a space. Is that not what you see? I'm afraid not. Looking at your message source, I see Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable and

Re: mail sig separator (was Re: BD backup?)

2024-11-19 Thread Brad Rogers
On Tue, 19 Nov 2024 10:02:59 -0500 e...@gmx.us wrote: Hello e...@gmx.us, >That is what I see in the message to which you replied. See the <1k >attachment. This message also has a space. Is that not what you see? I see what Jonathan sees. Your sig separator arrives here as "--". If it leaves

Re: mail sig separator (was Re: BD backup?)

2024-11-19 Thread eben
On 11/19/24 05:19, Jonathan Dowland wrote: Hi, On Sun Nov 17, 2024 at 7:05 PM GMT, eben wrote: -- Just to point out that the mail signature separator is '-- ', i.e. with a suffixed ' ' character. Without it, Mail User Agent programs may not recognise your signature as su

mail sig separator (was Re: BD backup?)

2024-11-19 Thread Jonathan Dowland
Hi, On Sun Nov 17, 2024 at 7:05 PM GMT, eben wrote: > -- Just to point out that the mail signature separator is '-- ', i.e. with a suffixed ' ' character. Without it, Mail User Agent programs may not recognise your signature as such. -- Please do not CC me for listma

Re: Nearly-spam mail causes unsubscription threat

2024-08-14 Thread tomas
On Wed, Aug 14, 2024 at 06:56:07PM +0100, piorunz wrote: > Hi Thomas, > > Same here, I am on GMX mailbox too, received a warning recently that I > will be unsubscribed forcibly because my e-mail provider GMX rejected > spam Debian list is sending towards me. LOL. Maybe Debia

Re: Nearly-spam mail causes unsubscription threat

2024-08-14 Thread piorunz
Hi Thomas, Same here, I am on GMX mailbox too, received a warning recently that I will be unsubscribed forcibly because my e-mail provider GMX rejected spam Debian list is sending towards me. LOL. Maybe Debian e-mail server could improve filtering so I don't receive any spam in the first

Re: Nearly-spam mail causes unsubscription threat

2024-08-13 Thread Alex King
hreat. the mail is an information that - if there are more bounces (and there is a number and a total number in x days _and_ a number in percent) that if the threshold is surpassed you will be unsubscribed. There is no threat. Only an information. As a point of information, there was a th

Re: Nearly-spam mail causes unsubscription threat

2024-08-11 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Karen Lewellen wrote: > As a side note..I got the message, assuming you mean the one indicating it > was from new service with account statement or some such. Yes. The message which was bounced by GMX is in the list archive as https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2024/08/msg00366.html Ob

Re: Nearly-spam mail causes unsubscription threat

2024-08-11 Thread Karen Lewellen
As a side note..I got the message, assuming you mean the one indicating it was from new service with account statement or some such. Naturally, I did not so much as open the item. seems like a broad list attempt, assuming this is the post you are referencing of course. Kare On Sun, 11 Aug 2

Re: Nearly-spam mail causes unsubscription threat

2024-08-11 Thread eben
actly what it is. The mail in question was not put into any mail box. I only became aware when i was informed by the Debian list automat that bad things would happen if ... Yes, and not only can you not disable their anti-spam measures, you have to log into webmail each time to undo it. O

Re: Nearly-spam mail causes unsubscription threat

2024-08-11 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, debian-u...@howorth.org.uk wrote: > You don't need to run a mailserver to do something similar. I simply > told my ISP (Zen) not to filter spam out of my mail. Normally GMX puts spam into a separate box where i can unjail it if i deem it not guilty. (Happens often enough.)

Re: Nearly-spam mail causes unsubscription threat

2024-08-11 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Sun, Aug 11, 2024 at 08:25:09PM +0200, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > How do you then explain that it lasted 2 days until i got affected > exactly after i challenged the (potential) troll by stating: > "although i seem not to be worth to be targeted by our bounce assassin," > > Between the f

Re: Nearly-spam mail causes unsubscription threat

2024-08-11 Thread debian-user
Andy Smith wrote: > Personally what I do is silently discard spammy emails from known > list servers instead of rejecting them at SMTP time (which is > otherwise and usually desirable). Doing that does require running > your own mail server though, which almost no one does. You d

Re: Nearly-spam mail causes unsubscription threat

2024-08-11 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, i wrote: > > debian-user is the only mailing list where i ever > > witnessed that a troll exploited the unscubscription habits to > > throw out multiple users. Andy Smith wrote: > I was here when those events occurred and that is not what happened. > [...] > It was just a bug in Debian's list

Re: Nearly-spam mail causes unsubscription threat

2024-08-11 Thread Andy Smith
on to the list, but it was incorrectly parsing out the subscriber it thought they were coming from. The result was that it was accumulating bounce score for whoever sent the mail that was being bounced, not the system bouncing the email. I explained this in the thread you linked to: https:/

Re: Nearly-spam mail causes unsubscription threat

2024-08-11 Thread Thomas Schmitt
ems by first asking how many mail providers differ slightly from the list servers assessment and reaction. As next step i would ask the list masters to consider ignoring bounces if the mail has a nearly-spam score on the Debian list. In such a case it is likely that other servers see a barely-spam s

Re: Nearly-spam mail causes unsubscription threat

2024-08-11 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Sun, Aug 11, 2024 at 01:51:50PM +0200, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > i just received a message from the list server that my mail provider > GMX has rejected a spam message which the Debian list allowed to pass > by a tiny not-spam margin. > From this quite unsuspicious situation th

Re: Nearly-spam mail causes unsubscription threat

2024-08-11 Thread Eike Lantzsch ZP5CGE / KY4PZ
On Sunday, 11 August 2024 07:51:50 -04 Thomas Schmitt wrote: > Hi, > > i just received a message from the list server that my mail provider > GMX has rejected a spam message which the Debian list allowed to pass > by a tiny not-spam margin. > From this quite unsuspicious situat

Nearly-spam mail causes unsubscription threat

2024-08-11 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, i just received a message from the list server that my mail provider GMX has rejected a spam message which the Debian list allowed to pass by a tiny not-spam margin. From this quite unsuspicious situation the automat of Debian Listmaster Team derived the threat to unsubscribe me. I see the

Re: Network-manager issue after installation, was: Re: your mail

2024-07-30 Thread Dan Ritter
Franco Martelli wrote: > On 30/07/24 at 17:29, Tawsif wrote: > > On Tue, Jul 30, 2024 at 01:08:39PM +0600, Tawsif wrote: > > I have a very small storage size for my laptop (64gb). So, I installed > > debian minimal in it. > > If you can, reinstalls Debian as usual, my KDE's installation takes abo

Network-manager issue after installation, was: Re: your mail

2024-07-30 Thread Franco Martelli
On 30/07/24 at 17:29, Tawsif wrote: On Tue, Jul 30, 2024 at 01:08:39PM +0600, Tawsif wrote: I have a very small storage size for my laptop (64gb). So, I installed debian minimal in it. If you can, reinstalls Debian as usual, my KDE's installation takes about 10GB: ~$ LC_ALL=C.UTF-8 df / Fil

Re: your mail

2024-07-30 Thread Walt E
anager doesn't seee my >wifi interface on that list thus it manages that interface. My question is why >does this happen? How can I prevent it? Like you know why can't I manage my >wifi interface with network-manager even though I removed it from the /etc/ >network/interfaces l

Re: your mail

2024-07-30 Thread Tawsif
e on that list thus it manages that interface. My question > is why > >does this happen? How can I prevent it? Like you know why can't I manage > my > >wifi interface with network-manager even though I removed it from the > /etc/ > >network/interfaces list? > &

Re: Never receive an unsubscription confirmation e-mail

2024-07-27 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Fri, Jul 26, 2024 at 05:39:30PM +0200, rudu wrote: > I wrote an e-mail to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with the > subject "unsubscribe" and sent it, expecting to receive a confirmation > e-mail ... which never comes ... > I also tried https://www.debian.org/Ma

Never receive an unsubscription confirmation e-mail

2024-07-26 Thread rudu
Hello, I'm just trying to suspend my subscription to Debian-user for a few weeks. So, I wrote an e-mail to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with the subject "unsubscribe" and sent it, expecting to receive a confirmation e-mail ... which never comes ... I also tried https:/

Re: Testmail_2: Re: Testmail_1: This is a new created mail!

2024-07-04 Thread The Wanderer
On 2024-07-04 at 16:01, Hans wrote: > Am Donnerstag, 4. Juli 2024, 21:59:23 CEST schrieb Hans: > >> This is a newly created testmail! This one should appear without >> the SPAM tag. >> >> After I get this mail from the list, I resent a reply to this mail &g

Testmail_2: Re: Testmail_1: This is a new created mail!

2024-07-04 Thread Hans
Am Donnerstag, 4. Juli 2024, 21:59:23 CEST schrieb Hans: > This is a newly created testmail! This one should appear without the SPAM > tag. > > After I get this mail from the list, I resent a reply to this mail named > Testmail_2. > > Hans This is a reply to my own Testma

Testmail_1: This is a new created mail!

2024-07-04 Thread Hans
This is a newly created testmail! This one should appear without the SPAM tag. After I get this mail from the list, I resent a reply to this mail named Testmail_2. Hans

Re: OT - list mail claimed to be "known" spam!

2024-06-23 Thread Felix Miata
CHRIS M composed on 2024-06-23 21:36 (UTC-0500): > Felix Miata wrote: >> Stefan's isn't the only, but few others from any source become repeats, one >> of which is every notification of new post added to subscribed thread on >> forums.opensuse.org. >> Trying to get EL to stop putting subscribed

Re: OT - list mail claimed to be "known" spam!

2024-06-23 Thread John Hasler
Felix Miata wrote: > Trying to get EL to stop putting subscribed email into "known spam" is > futile. The mechanism EL provides to avoid such diversions doesn't work > with debian mailing list posts. Quit using EL email. Use Pobox. Yes, it costs money. It's worth it. -- John Hasler j...@sugar

Re: OT - list mail claimed to be "known" spam! (was: mounting external hard drive...)

2024-06-23 Thread CHRIS M
utting subscribed email into "known spam" is > futile. The mechanism EL provides to avoid such diversions doesn't work > with debian mailing list posts. > > :~( Sounds like its time to turn off Earthlink's Spam filtering and teach SeaMonkey Mail, what *IS* spam and wha

Re: OT - list mail claimed to be "known" spam!

2024-06-23 Thread Stefan Monnier
[ Sent directly to debian-user@lists. ] > FWIW, this reply goes to list because I expect high probability Stefan would > not > see it otherwise. Most mailing list posts flow through to me unimpeded. Not so > with Stefan's. AFAICT, every one of his is captured by Earthlink.net's "known > spam" fo

Re: OT - list mail claimed to be "known" spam! (was: mounting external hard drive...)

2024-06-23 Thread Felix Miata
Stefan Monnier composed on 2024-06-23 12:35 (UTC-0400): ... FWIW, this reply goes to list because I expect high probability Stefan would not see it otherwise. Most mailing list posts flow through to me unimpeded. Not so with Stefan's. AFAICT, every one of his is captured by Earthlink.net's "known s

Re: Markup in mail messages

2024-06-16 Thread Max Nikulin
On 15/05/2024 09:17, Max Nikulin wrote: On 15/05/2024 02:32, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Tue, May 14, 2024 at 08:16:20PM +0200, Nicolas George wrote: Messages in Markdown in the Windows world? I have never seen it. [...] The only sensible interpretation I can come up with for why these asterisks

Re: The dangers of .mbox mail clients?

2024-06-04 Thread Max Nikulin
On 04/06/2024 02:08, Chris M wrote: I am needing a "refresher course" on mail clients that use the .mbox format to store emails. It's been years since I've used this kind of mail client. You may configure local IMAP server (e.g. dovecot) to store your archive. It allows

Re: WAS: [ SOLVED] Re: Yet ANOTHER ThunderTurd ( Thunderbird ).. NOW~~The dangers of .mbox mail clients?

2024-06-03 Thread David Wright
On Mon 03 Jun 2024 at 14:08:46 (-0500), Chris M wrote: > I am needing a "refresher course" on mail clients that use the .mbox > format to store emails. > It's been years since I've used this kind of mail client. > > Is there any "dangers" I need

Re: The dangers of .mbox mail clients?

2024-06-03 Thread Chris M
Felix Miata wrote: As I'm up 24/7, I never bother going "offline" in SM. What I meant was, I always click in SM: File > Offline > Work Offline That way SM isn't doing anything in the background while I am compacting folders. OLD bad habit, I know.

Re: The dangers of .mbox mail clients?

2024-06-03 Thread Felix Miata
Chris M composed on 2024-06-03 14:08 (UTC-0500): > Is there any "dangers" I need to know about? Like, keeping the mailbox a > certain size? > or a certain amount of emails per folder etc? ... > I always go offline, and then compact my folders after I get done > reading emails. In SM at least, s

WAS: [ SOLVED] Re: Yet ANOTHER ThunderTurd ( Thunderbird ).. NOW~~The dangers of .mbox mail clients?

2024-06-03 Thread Chris M
I am needing a "refresher course" on mail clients that use the .mbox format to store emails. It's been years since I've used this kind of mail client. Is there any "dangers" I need to know about? Like, keeping the mailbox a certain size? or a certain amount of em

Re: Markup in mail messages

2024-05-18 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sat, May 18, 2024 at 08:26:55PM +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: > On 17/05/2024 18:10, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > On 17/05/2024 10:16, Karl Vogel wrote: > > > > https://github.com/aaronsw/html2text/ might interest you. It > > > > converts > > > > (relatively) sane HTML into Markdown. > > > >

Re: Markup in mail messages

2024-05-18 Thread Max Nikulin
On 17/05/2024 18:10, Greg Wooledge wrote: On 17/05/2024 10:16, Karl Vogel wrote: https://github.com/aaronsw/html2text/ might interest you. It converts (relatively) sane HTML into Markdown. I put html2text.py into $HOME/lib and use this to call it: #!/bin/sh # [...] ht

Re: Markup in mail messages

2024-05-17 Thread tomas
On Fri, May 17, 2024 at 03:25:49PM -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote: > >> Actually I've been tempted to teach my mail reader to transform HTML > >> into some lightweight markup (yeah, you need a bit of heuristics for > >> that ;-) -- say Org, but why not its poor s

Re: Markup in mail messages

2024-05-17 Thread Chip Smith
ling list don't have the time.  I've also never really used Emacs as I came over to GNU/Linux from the later generations of the 9.x series of Windows in the early to mid 2000;s. On 5/17/24 20:31, Max Nikulin wrote: On 18/05/2024 02:25, Stefan Monnier wrote: Actually I've been tempte

Re: Markup in mail messages

2024-05-17 Thread Max Nikulin
On 18/05/2024 02:25, Stefan Monnier wrote: Actually I've been tempted to teach my mail reader to transform HTML into some lightweight markup (yeah, you need a bit of heuristics for that ;-) -- say Org, but why not its poor sister Markdown. Please don't settle for markdown. I would

Re: Markup in mail messages

2024-05-17 Thread Henning Follmann
On Fri, May 17, 2024 at 03:25:49PM -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote: > >> Actually I've been tempted to teach my mail reader to transform HTML > >> into some lightweight markup (yeah, you need a bit of heuristics for > >> that ;-) -- say Org, but why not its poor s

Re: Markup in mail messages

2024-05-17 Thread Stefan Monnier
>> Actually I've been tempted to teach my mail reader to transform HTML >> into some lightweight markup (yeah, you need a bit of heuristics for >> that ;-) -- say Org, but why not its poor sister Markdown. > Please don't settle for markdown. I would love a org

Re: Markup in mail messages

2024-05-17 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, May 17, 2024 at 12:43:49PM +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: > On 17/05/2024 10:16, Karl Vogel wrote: > >https://github.com/aaronsw/html2text/ might interest you. It converts > >(relatively) sane HTML into Markdown. > > > >I put html2text.py into $HOME/lib and use this to call it: > >

Re: mail tags in kmail?

2024-05-17 Thread Anssi Saari
Hans writes: > Dear list, > > does anyone know, where kmail is storing its tags for mails? The tags I mean > are those like "already read". I've never done that but maybe this helps, from https://docs.kde.org/stable5/en/kmail/kmail2/faq.html#transfer-mail-and-setting

Re: Markup in mail messages

2024-05-16 Thread Max Nikulin
On 17/05/2024 10:16, Karl Vogel wrote: https://github.com/aaronsw/html2text/ might interest you. It converts (relatively) sane HTML into Markdown. I put html2text.py into $HOME/lib and use this to call it: #!/bin/sh # I am puzzled by this wrapper. I expect that "$@" is enou

Re: Markup in mail messages

2024-05-16 Thread Karl Vogel
>> On Thu, May 16, 2024 at 09:48:23AM -0400, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > Actually I've been tempted to teach my mail reader to transform HTML > into some lightweight markup (yeah, you need a bit of heuristics for > that ;-) -- say Org, but why not its poor sister Markdown.

Re: Markup in mail messages

2024-05-16 Thread Max Nikulin
On 16/05/2024 20:47, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: Actually I've been tempted to teach my mail reader to transform HTML into some lightweight markup (yeah, you need a bit of heuristics for that ;-) -- say Org, but why not its poor sister Markdown. I am not familiar with pandoc features enou

mail tags in kmail?

2024-05-16 Thread Hans
Dear list, does anyone know, where kmail is storing its tags for mails? The tags I mean are those like "already read". Background: When I rsync the folder with my mails, which is here ~/.kde/ share/apps/kmail/mail , to another computer, then all new mails are tagged as "n

Re: Markup in mail messages

2024-05-16 Thread Curt
On 2024-05-16, Stefan Monnier wrote: >> When this sort of subject comes up (as it does, every so often), I wonder >> why `text/markdown` isn't offered as a mime type for sending emails. > > FWIW, last time I tried to send `text/(x-)markdown` messages, Attribute quotes accurately. https://wiki.

Re: Markup in mail messages

2024-05-16 Thread Henning Follmann
o complain to their > > MUA's authors (most of those MUAs are of course proprietary and are not > > very ... responsive, but that's all we can do). > > Actually I've been tempted to teach my mail reader to transform HTML > into some lightweight markup (yeah, you ne

Re: Markup in mail messages

2024-05-16 Thread tomas
and are not > very ... responsive, but that's all we can do). Actually I've been tempted to teach my mail reader to transform HTML into some lightweight markup (yeah, you need a bit of heuristics for that ;-) -- say Org, but why not its poor sister Markdown. > > The stupidest case I b

Re: Markup in mail messages

2024-05-16 Thread Stefan Monnier
> When this sort of subject comes up (as it does, every so often), I wonder > why `text/markdown` isn't offered as a mime type for sending emails. FWIW, last time I tried to send `text/(x-)markdown` messages, I discovered that many "popular" MUAs do not display those at all (they treat them as att

Re: Markup in mail messages

2024-05-15 Thread David
On Wed, 2024-05-15 at 15:57 +0100, Darac Marjal wrote: > On 15/05/2024 03:17, Max Nikulin wrote: > > > On 15/05/2024 02:32, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > > > On Tue, May 14, 2024 at 08:16:20PM +0200, Nicolas George wrote: > > > > > > > Messages in Ma

Re: Markup in mail messages

2024-05-15 Thread Darac Marjal
On 15/05/2024 03:17, Max Nikulin wrote: On 15/05/2024 02:32, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Tue, May 14, 2024 at 08:16:20PM +0200, Nicolas George wrote: Messages in Markdown in the Windows world? I have never seen it. [...] The only sensible interpretation I can come up with for why these asterisks

Re: Markup in mail messages

2024-05-14 Thread eben
pecific to markdown. However sometimes I use them not expecting that the message will be rendered as markdown. Just to avoid ambiguity where a piece of code starts and ends. If your mail path is sufficiently modern, you might be able to use Unicode subscripts₁ and superscripts². But, they're

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