Re: Laptop wireless problem - very slight tangent

2016-07-05 Thread Brian
On Tue 05 Jul 2016 at 18:20:15 +0200, deloptes wrote: > David Wright wrote: > > > This laptop works perfectly well with eth1. It justs needs you > > to change wlan0 to eth1 in wicd when you install it (Shift-P and > > type eth1 in the appropriate box). > > Ah yes might have been the easier way.

Re: Laptop wireless problem - very slight tangent

2016-07-05 Thread deloptes
Lisi Reisz wrote: > MIne (or rather, my client's) isn't doing now.  We have proved that it can > work.  But I still can't restart the laptop and find that wireless is > working.  I still have to fiddle, and then fiddle some more.  And there is > still a dns problem that I still haven't solved. (NM

Re: Laptop wireless problem - very slight tangent

2016-07-05 Thread deloptes
David Wright wrote: > This laptop works perfectly well with eth1. It justs needs you > to change wlan0 to eth1 in wicd when you install it (Shift-P and > type eth1 in the appropriate box). Ah yes might have been the easier way. The naming is set in /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules I cou

Re: Laptop wireless problem - very slight tangent

2016-07-05 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Tuesday 05 July 2016 16:32:32 David Wright wrote: > I have a suspicion that, at some time in the past, not every kernel's > ipw2200 module has worked properly (even with the firmware apparently > correctly loaded). MIne (or rather, my client's) isn't doing now. We have proved that it can work

Re: Laptop wireless problem - very slight tangent

2016-07-05 Thread David Wright
On Tue 05 Jul 2016 at 16:12:58 (+0100), Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Tuesday 05 July 2016 16:02:52 David Wright wrote: > > It would be nice to know what the "it" is that chooses that default. > > I have a laptop with the same IPW2200 wireless, and it has always > > defaulted to eth1 in the same way as Li

Re: Laptop wireless problem - very slight tangent

2016-07-05 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Tuesday 05 July 2016 16:02:52 David Wright wrote: > It would be nice to know what the "it" is that chooses that default. > I have a laptop with the same IPW2200 wireless, and it has always > defaulted to eth1 in the same way as Lisi's did. > > If it's a "default", that would imply that there's s

Re: Laptop wireless problem - very slight tangent

2016-07-05 Thread David Wright
On Mon 04 Jul 2016 at 09:48:46 (+0200), deloptes wrote: > Lisi Reisz wrote: > > On Sunday 03 July 2016 21:36:58 deloptes wrote: > >> Lisi Reisz wrote: > >> > .  It would obviously be helpful, but I have always heretofore > >> > just accepted the interface name I was given!  Google here I come > >>

Re: Laptop wireless problem - very slight tangent

2016-07-04 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Monday 04 July 2016 19:58:15 Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Monday 04 July 2016 17:21:29 deloptes wrote: > > Perhaps you can try with a live ubuntu just to see if it works > > I tried. A screen full of coloured squiggly lines. I tried ctrl-alt F2. > Got a blank screen with a small horizontal flashing

Re: Laptop wireless problem - very slight tangent

2016-07-04 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Monday 04 July 2016 21:13:13 deloptes wrote: > Let us know if it helped solve the problem. :-) I am at Royal Mail's mercy!! Thanks for all the patient help. Lisi

Re: Laptop wireless problem - very slight tangent

2016-07-04 Thread deloptes
Lisi Reisz wrote: > I think Brian's test was pretty conclusive. yes. I followed it. Perhaps indeed the card is dead. You may try replacing it. It is indeed a separate module mounted on the board. You need a screwdriver, some skills and good howto. Let us know if it helped solve the problem. reg

Re: Laptop wireless problem - very slight tangent

2016-07-04 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Monday 04 July 2016 17:21:29 deloptes wrote: > Perhaps you can try with a live ubuntu just to see if it works I tried. A screen full of coloured squiggly lines. I tried ctrl-alt F2. Got a blank screen with a small horizontal flashing cursor and nothing else. Tried ctrl-alt F7, ctrl-alt F8

POSSIBLY SOLVED Re: Laptop wireless problem - very slight tangent

2016-07-04 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Monday 04 July 2016 18:43:08 Brian wrote: > On Mon 04 Jul 2016 at 17:58:58 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > On Monday 04 July 2016 17:21:29 deloptes wrote: > > > I've been using the ipw2200 for few years on one siemens-fujitsu > > > notebook with out issues. There was first debian and then ubuntu on

Re: Laptop wireless problem - very slight tangent

2016-07-04 Thread Brian
On Mon 04 Jul 2016 at 17:58:58 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Monday 04 July 2016 17:21:29 deloptes wrote: > > > > I've been using the ipw2200 for few years on one siemens-fujitsu notebook > > with out issues. There was first debian and then ubuntu on it. Strange that > > you can not suddenly conne

Re: Laptop wireless problem - very slight tangent

2016-07-04 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Monday 04 July 2016 17:58:58 Lisi Reisz wrote: > # Bring up wireless > # auto wlan0 > # iface eth1 inet dhcp >   #      wpa-ssid NETGEAR08 >    #     wpa-psk dao45eeWcartwheel Bother. Sent in error. I'd better change that fast. :-( I'm going for a cup of tea. :-( Lisi

Re: Laptop wireless problem - very slight tangent

2016-07-04 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Monday 04 July 2016 17:21:29 deloptes wrote: > Lisi Reisz wrote: > > On Monday 04 July 2016 14:20:23 deloptes wrote: > >> Lisi Reisz wrote: > >> > /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules > >> > >> on my one it looks like this > >> > >> # PCI device 0x8086:0x08b1 (iwlwifi) > >> SUBSYSTEM=="net

Re: Laptop wireless problem - very slight tangent

2016-07-04 Thread deloptes
Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Monday 04 July 2016 14:20:23 deloptes wrote: >> Lisi Reisz wrote: >> > /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules >> >> on my one it looks like this >> >> # PCI device 0x8086:0x08b1 (iwlwifi) >> SUBSYSTEM=="net", ACTION=="add", DRIVERS=="?*", >> ATTR{address}=="x

Re: Laptop wireless problem - very slight tangent

2016-07-04 Thread Nicolas George
Le septidi 17 messidor, an CCXXIV, Dan Purgert a écrit : > No, No, not "no". > the whole udev thing is to keep the kernel from doing weird things > with device naming on boot (such as swapping eth0 for eth1). You are talking about implementation, I was talking about policy. >

Re: Laptop wireless problem - very slight tangent

2016-07-04 Thread Dan Purgert
Nicolas George wrote: > > --RnlQjJ0d97Da+TV1 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > Content-Disposition: inline > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > Le septidi 17 messidor, an CCXXIV, Dan Purgert a =E9crit=A0: >> As I recall it ... >>=20 >> - prefix ("en" | "wl") indicates w

Re: Laptop wireless problem - very slight tangent

2016-07-04 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Monday 04 July 2016 14:20:23 deloptes wrote: > Lisi Reisz wrote: > > /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules > > on my one it looks like this > > # PCI device 0x8086:0x08b1 (iwlwifi) > SUBSYSTEM=="net", ACTION=="add", DRIVERS=="?*", > ATTR{address}=="xxx", ATTR{dev_id}=="0x0", \ >

Re: Laptop wireless problem - very slight tangent

2016-07-04 Thread deloptes
Lisi Reisz wrote: > /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules on my one it looks like this # PCI device 0x8086:0x08b1 (iwlwifi) SUBSYSTEM=="net", ACTION=="add", DRIVERS=="?*", ATTR{address}=="xxx", ATTR{dev_id}=="0x0", \ ATTR{type}=="1", KERNEL=="wlan*", NAME="wlan0" why shouldn't

Re: Laptop wireless problem - very slight tangent

2016-07-04 Thread Nicolas George
Le septidi 17 messidor, an CCXXIV, Dan Purgert a écrit : > As I recall it ... > > - prefix ("en" | "wl") indicates whether it's [e]ther[n]et or [wl]an. > - p# indicates the PCI Bus it's on > - s# indicates the slot on that PCI Bus > > it's all part of the "new" udev/systemd naming, because i

Re: Laptop wireless problem - very slight tangent

2016-07-04 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Monday 04 July 2016 08:48:46 deloptes wrote: > Lisi Reisz wrote: > > On Sunday 03 July 2016 21:36:58 deloptes wrote: > >> Lisi Reisz wrote: > >> > .  It would obviously be helpful, but I have always heretofore > >> > just accepted the interface name I was given!  Google here I come > >> > again.

Re: Laptop wireless problem - very slight tangent

2016-07-04 Thread Dan Purgert
Cindy-Sue Causey wrote: > [snip] > [...] "wlp2s0" on Sid Unstable. > > [...] > > PS enp1s0 is now my other one, as well. > As I recall it ... - prefix ("en" | "wl") indicates whether it's [e]ther[n]et or [wl]an. - p# indicates the PCI Bus it's on - s# indicates the slot on that PCI Bus it

Re: Laptop wireless problem - very slight tangent

2016-07-04 Thread deloptes
Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Sunday 03 July 2016 21:36:58 deloptes wrote: >> Lisi Reisz wrote: >> > .  It would obviously be helpful, but I have always heretofore >> > just accepted the interface name I was given!  Google here I come >> > again. >> >> just comment out the eth1 lines from the udev file a

Re: Laptop wireless problem - very slight tangent

2016-07-03 Thread Cindy-Sue Causey
On 7/3/16, deloptes wrote: > Lisi Reisz wrote: > >> I have discovered something I find interesting in this, which does not >> seem to be directly in reply to anything that has gone before - so it was >> difficult >> to place it in the thread. I have deliberately broken the >> "conversation", >> b

Re: Laptop wireless problem - very slight tangent

2016-07-03 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Sunday 03 July 2016 21:36:58 deloptes wrote: > Lisi Reisz wrote: > > .  It would obviously be helpful, but I have always heretofore just > > accepted the interface name I was given!  Google here I come again. > > just comment out the eth1 lines from the udev file and reboot. it should > add the

Re: Laptop wireless problem - very slight tangent

2016-07-03 Thread deloptes
Lisi Reisz wrote: > .  It would obviously be helpful, but I have always heretofore just > accepted the interface name I was given!  Google here I come again. just comment out the eth1 lines from the udev file and reboot. it should add the proper one after AFAIR

Re: Laptop wireless problem - very slight tangent

2016-07-03 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Sunday 03 July 2016 19:59:50 deloptes wrote: > Lisi Reisz wrote: > > I have discovered something I find interesting in this, which does not > > seem to be directly in reply to anything that has gone before - so it was > > difficult > > to place it in the thread. I have deliberately broken the >

Re: Laptop wireless problem - very slight tangent

2016-07-03 Thread deloptes
Lisi Reisz wrote: > I have discovered something I find interesting in this, which does not > seem to be directly in reply to anything that has gone before - so it was > difficult > to place it in the thread. I have deliberately broken the "conversation", > but not the thread. > > From the router

Re: Laptop wireless problem - very slight tangent

2016-07-03 Thread Lisi Reisz
I have discovered something I find interesting in this, which does not seem to be directly in reply to anything that has gone before - so it was difficult to place it in the thread. I have deliberately broken the "conversation", but not the thread. From the router's log: Every time I try (onc