Hi,
On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 08:45:40AM -0700, mond wrote:
> On Apr 30, 8:50 am, "Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote:
> > On 30/04/2008, Micha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > "Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > On 30/04/2008, Chris Bannister <[EMAIL PROTE
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On 04/30/08 10:45, mond wrote:
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> Anyway, sid is stable enough, I think, if you don't dist-upgrade
> everyday.
Yup...
Desire to be able to read my email from the console (occasional X
bugs in Sid was one impetus for this) are why I originall
On Apr 30, 8:50 am, "Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> On 30/04/2008, Micha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 07:56:49 -0500
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> > "Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > > On 30/04/2008, Chris Bannister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > U
On 30/04/2008, Micha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 07:56:49 -0500
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> "Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > On 30/04/2008, Chris Bannister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Unstable means that it's changing frequently *NOT* that it's more likely
> > > to
On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 07:56:49 -0500
"Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 30/04/2008, Chris Bannister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Unstable means that it's changing frequently *NOT* that it's more likely
> > to crash.
>
> Then why does it crash more in my anecdotal and unsci
On 30/04/2008, Chris Bannister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Unstable means that it's changing frequently *NOT* that it's more likely
> to crash.
Then why does it crash more in my anecdotal and unscientific experience?
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On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 04:30:52PM -0500, Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso wrote:
> On 28/04/2008, Micha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Actually i recommend sid to everyone except for servers where stable is more
> > suitable.
>
> You must enjoy debugging a lot, then. Sid really *is* unstable, like
> its
On 29/04/2008, mond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I don't worry about the bugs and crashes.
Oh, then enjoy sid. :-)
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On Apr 28, 8:00 pm, "Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> On 28/04/2008, Micha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > On Mon, 28 Apr 2008 16:30:52 -0500
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> > "Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > > On 28/04/2008, Micha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > Actually i
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Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso wrote:
> On 28/04/2008, Rich Healey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> But how does the distribution advance if *NOONE* runs testing/unstable?
>
> Oh, it's great that people are running both of those, and I run them
> too, but we're
On 28/04/2008, Rich Healey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> But how does the distribution advance if *NOONE* runs testing/unstable?
Oh, it's great that people are running both of those, and I run them
too, but we're essentially beta testers. I do my best to send timely
bug reports when I can, or be as
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Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso wrote:
> On 28/04/2008, Micha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Actually i recommend sid to everyone except for servers where stable is more
>> suitable.
>
> You must enjoy debugging a lot, then. Sid really *is* unstable, like
> i
On 28/04/2008, Micha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, 28 Apr 2008 16:30:52 -0500
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> "Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > On 28/04/2008, Micha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Actually i recommend sid to everyone except for servers where stable is
> more
> > > suitab
On Mon, 28 Apr 2008 16:30:52 -0500
"Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 28/04/2008, Micha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Actually i recommend sid to everyone except for servers where stable is more
> > suitable.
>
> You must enjoy debugging a lot, then. Sid really *is* unsta
On Apr 28, 2:10 pm, Osamu Aoki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sun, Apr 27, 2008 at 10:30:42PM -0700, mond wrote:
> > On Apr 27, 10:50 pm, Daniel Burrows <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > On Sun, Apr 27, 2008 at 07:31:04PM -0700, mond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was
> > > heard to say:
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> > > > 1. I think
On 28/04/2008, Micha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Actually i recommend sid to everyone except for servers where stable is more
> suitable.
You must enjoy debugging a lot, then. Sid really *is* unstable, like
its name sounds, and like we can witness with Mond and with me. Newer
software is hardly
On Mon, 28 Apr 2008 12:27:25 -0500
"Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 28/04/2008, John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > mond wrote:
> > > However, recently my Debian(sid) crash randomly and frequently.
> >
> >
> > Jordi writes:
> > > Of course it does. It's sid
On Apr 26, 9:20 pm, mond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I am almost new to Debian. It is a great system. I get my work done in
> Debian very well.
> However, recently my Debian(sid) crash randomly and frequently.
>
> The problem is that the screen just get dark. And "ctrl+alt+backspace"
> doesn't wor
On Sun, Apr 27, 2008 at 10:30:42PM -0700, mond wrote:
> On Apr 27, 10:50 pm, Daniel Burrows <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Sun, Apr 27, 2008 at 07:31:04PM -0700, mond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was
> > heard to say:
> >
> > > 1. I think it is all about X( form the log you can tell). The system
> > > i
Jordi writes:
> Well, it's been about two days since it crashed over here.
What crashed? The kernel? X? Your "desktop environment"?
> I'd file a bug report, but I don't know exactly how to make it crash, and
> since it keeps moving, well, living on sid is an adventure all around,
> not for the
On 28/04/2008, John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> mond wrote:
> > However, recently my Debian(sid) crash randomly and frequently.
>
>
> Jordi writes:
> > Of course it does. It's sid.
>
>
> It's been many years since Sid has crashed here.
Well, it's been about two days since it c
mond wrote:
> However, recently my Debian(sid) crash randomly and frequently.
Jordi writes:
> Of course it does. It's sid.
It's been many years since Sid has crashed here.
> If you don't like bugs, don't use sid.
Seems to me that he is just trying to discuss the problem so that he can
fix it a
On 26/04/2008, mond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> However, recently my Debian(sid) crash randomly and frequently.
Of course it does. It's sid. If you don't like bugs, don't use sid.
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On Apr 28, 10:20 am, mond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Apr 28, 2:00 am, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > > On Apr 26, 9:20 pm, mond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >> I am almost new to De
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> > On Apr 26, 9:20 pm, mond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> I am almost new to Debian. It is a great system. I get my work done in
> >> Debian very
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On 04/27/08 22:42, mond wrote:
> On Apr 26, 9:20 pm, mond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I am almost new to Debian. It is a great system. I get my work done in
>> Debian very well.
>> However, recently my Debian(sid) crash randomly and frequently.
>>
>>
On Apr 27, 10:50 pm, Daniel Burrows <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sun, Apr 27, 2008 at 07:31:04PM -0700, mond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard
> to say:
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> > 1. I think it is all about X( form the log you can tell). The system
> > is not down. I don,t have another computer home. So I can not ssh w
On Apr 26, 9:20 pm, mond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I am almost new to Debian. It is a great system. I get my work done in
> Debian very well.
> However, recently my Debian(sid) crash randomly and frequently.
>
> The problem is that the screen just get dark. And "ctrl+alt+backspace"
> doesn't wor
On Sun, Apr 27, 2008 at 07:31:04PM -0700, mond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to
say:
> 1. I think it is all about X( form the log you can tell). The system
> is not down. I don,t have another computer home. So I can not ssh when
> it crashes. But I will test it in office if it crashes.
> 2. The i
On Apr 26, 9:20 pm, mond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I am almost new to Debian. It is a great system. I get my work done in
> Debian very well.
> However, recently my Debian(sid) crash randomly and frequently.
>
> The problem is that the screen just get dark. And "ctrl+alt+backspace"
> doesn't wor
On Sun, 27 Apr 2008 08:50:32 -0700
Daniel Burrows <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sat, Apr 26, 2008 at 10:00:03PM -0700, mond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard
> to say:
> > Apr 26 23:28:41 Pavilion acpid: received event "ac_adapter ACAD
> > 0001"
> > Apr 26 23:28:41 Pavilion acpid: notif
On Sat, Apr 26, 2008 at 10:00:03PM -0700, mond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to
say:
> Apr 26 23:28:41 Pavilion acpid: received event "ac_adapter ACAD
> 0001"
> Apr 26 23:28:41 Pavilion acpid: notifying client 2612[106:111]
> Apr 26 23:28:41 Pavilion acpid: notifying client 2720[0:0]
On Sat, 26 Apr 2008 21:45:49 -0700 (PDT)
mond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Apr 26, 11:30 pm, "Kim N. Lesmer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Sat, 26 Apr 2008 18:50:09 -0700 (PDT)
> >
> > mond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > I am almost new to Debian. It is a great system. I get my work
> > >
Good morning,
On Sun, 27 Apr 2008 07:10:12 +0200 mond wrote:
> On Apr 26, 11:30 pm, "Kim N. Lesmer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> On Sat, 26 Apr 2008 18:50:09 -0700 (PDT)
>>
>> mond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > However, recently my Debian(sid) crash randomly and frequently.
>>
>> > The problem
> * From: mond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>It just freeze. But I can not do nothing, so I push the power button.
>Apr 26 23:28:41 Pavilion acpid: executing action "/etc/acpi/power.sh"
>Apr 26 23:29:01 Pavilion acpid: executing action
>"/etc/acpi/powerbtn-acpi-support.sh"
>Apr 26 23:29:01 Pavilion shu
On Apr 26, 11:30 pm, "Kim N. Lesmer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sat, 26 Apr 2008 18:50:09 -0700 (PDT)
>
> mond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I am almost new to Debian. It is a great system. I get my work done in
> > Debian very well.
> > However, recently my Debian(sid) crash randomly and fre
On Apr 26, 11:30 pm, "Kim N. Lesmer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sat, 26 Apr 2008 18:50:09 -0700 (PDT)
>
> mond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I am almost new to Debian. It is a great system. I get my work done in
> > Debian very well.
> > However, recently my Debian(sid) crash randomly and fre
On Sat, 26 Apr 2008 18:50:09 -0700 (PDT)
mond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I am almost new to Debian. It is a great system. I get my work done in
> Debian very well.
> However, recently my Debian(sid) crash randomly and frequently.
>
> The problem is that the screen just get dark. And "ctrl+alt+b
On Apr 26, 9:40 pm, Alex Samad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sat, Apr 26, 2008 at 06:50:09PM -0700, mond wrote:
> > I am almost new to Debian. It is a great system. I get my work done in
> > Debian very well.
> > However, recently my Debian(sid) crash randomly and frequently.
>
> > The problem is
On Sat, Apr 26, 2008 at 06:50:09PM -0700, mond wrote:
> I am almost new to Debian. It is a great system. I get my work done in
> Debian very well.
> However, recently my Debian(sid) crash randomly and frequently.
>
> The problem is that the screen just get dark. And "ctrl+alt+backspace"
> doesn't
I am almost new to Debian. It is a great system. I get my work done in
Debian very well.
However, recently my Debian(sid) crash randomly and frequently.
The problem is that the screen just get dark. And "ctrl+alt+backspace"
doesn't work. "Ctrl +alt+f1" doesn't work either.
So I just wonder if the
On Fri April 18 2008, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
> > It is bootable, it does have puppy linux on it, but it also contains
> > files that I transfer around..
>
> right. some people running gnome (maybe kde, I don't know) will set
> the system to auto-open new media when it's inserted, perhaps that
On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 08:06:04AM -0400, Paul Cartwright wrote:
> On Thu April 17 2008, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
> > > I formatted a 2 Gb USB stick and installed a bootable version of puppy
> > > linux on it. It can be read by even a windows PC, it is formatted vfat (
> > > I think). When I in
On Fri April 18 2008, Raj Kiran Grandhi wrote:
> Could it be a hardware problem? Try inserting the usb stick into
> different ports and see. Also try a different usb stick dd'd from the
> troublesome one.
the only other stick I have is a 2Gb Sandisk cruiser with U3 technology. I
don't want to wip
On Thu April 17 2008, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
> > I formatted a 2 Gb USB stick and installed a bootable version of puppy
> > linux on it. It can be read by even a windows PC, it is formatted vfat (
> > I think). When I insert that stick into my Debian Etch computer, the
> > computer reboots. O
Paul Cartwright wrote:
I formatted a 2 Gb USB stick and installed a bootable version of puppy linux
on it. It can be read by even a windows PC, it is formatted vfat ( I think).
When I insert that stick into my Debian Etch computer, the computer reboots.
Once it comes back up, it reads the USB s
On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 10:18:06AM -0400, Paul Cartwright wrote:
> I formatted a 2 Gb USB stick and installed a bootable version of puppy linux
> on it. It can be read by even a windows PC, it is formatted vfat ( I think).
> When I insert that stick into my Debian Etch computer, the computer rebo
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On 04/17/08 09:18, Paul Cartwright wrote:
> I formatted a 2 Gb USB stick and installed a bootable version of puppy linux
> on it. It can be read by even a windows PC, it is formatted vfat ( I think).
> When I insert that stick into my Debian Etch com
I formatted a 2 Gb USB stick and installed a bootable version of puppy linux
on it. It can be read by even a windows PC, it is formatted vfat ( I think).
When I insert that stick into my Debian Etch computer, the computer reboots.
Once it comes back up, it reads the USB stick as /dev/sdb. Why do
This sounds like what happened to me when my X setup and gpm where
competing for the mouse. If I switched between X and console and I
bumped the mouse, then bad things would happen. I fixed this by using
the repeater option on gpm -R to write to /dev/gpmdata and set up
X to use that instead of /d
On Tue, 17 Nov 1998, Ed Cogburn wrote:
> Rob Collins wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, 11 Nov 1998, Geoffrey L. Brimhall wrote:
> >
> > > what version of Netscape were you using ? The latest 4.5 or the older 4.0.
> > >
> > > I recently installed the 4.5 on my SMP system and have been having system
> > > fr
On Mon, 16 Nov 1998, Rob Collins wrote:
> On the same topic, I've recently had a crash in debian
[...]
> 1. boot with xdm. Log in.
> 2. to switch to a different terminal.
> 3. Log in, do my stuff, log out.
> 4. to either return to X or look at the console log...
> it will never get to X (or the
Rob Collins wrote:
>
> On the same topic, I've recently had a crash in debian -- one that I've
> had before in Redhat 4. I've a very funky, self-built system... the crash
> is like this (and sometimes its like clockwork):
> 1. boot with xdm. Log in.
> 2. to switch to a different terminal.
> 3.
Rob Collins wrote:
>
> On Wed, 11 Nov 1998, Geoffrey L. Brimhall wrote:
>
> > what version of Netscape were you using ? The latest 4.5 or the older 4.0.
> >
> > I recently installed the 4.5 on my SMP system and have been having system
> > freezes happening at least once a day.
>
> Jeezus, system
On Wed, 11 Nov 1998, Geoffrey L. Brimhall wrote:
> what version of Netscape were you using ? The latest 4.5 or the older 4.0.
>
> I recently installed the 4.5 on my SMP system and have been having system
> freezes happening at least once a day.
Jeezus, system crashes once a day! Uninstall that
On the same topic, I've recently had a crash in debian -- one that I've
had before in Redhat 4. I've a very funky, self-built system... the crash
is like this (and sometimes its like clockwork):
1. boot with xdm. Log in.
2. to switch to a different terminal.
3. Log in, do my stuff, log out.
4.
>> "RAI" == Raymond A Ingles writes:
RAI> I don't know if it's debianized, but theres "jsrd" (joy stick
RAI> reset demon) whith lets you use a joystick button to perform
RAI> arbitrary actions. You can configure it to kill X on one
RAI> keypress and reboot on two presses, etc. Sorry, I don't ha
On 11 Nov 1998, Jens Ritter wrote:
> > > > On Wed, Nov 11, 1998 at 04:46:29PM +, Rich Harran. wrote:
> > > > > My Debian system just crashed.
> > and is there anything I could have done to bin X
> > without restarting?
>
> Well, if you`re the lucky owner of a dump ascii terminal, you could
Ed Cogburn wrote:
> Geoffrey L. Brimhall wrote:
> >
> > what version of Netscape were you using ? The latest 4.5 or the older 4.0.
> >
> > I recently installed the 4.5 on my SMP system and have been having system
> > freezes happening at least once a day.
> >
> Netscape occaisionly crashs on me to
Geoffrey L. Brimhall wrote:
>
> what version of Netscape were you using ? The latest 4.5 or the older 4.0.
>
> I recently installed the 4.5 on my SMP system and have been having system
> freezes happening at least once a day.
>
> On 11-Nov-98 Rich Harran. wrote:
> > My Debian system just crashed
what version of Netscape were you using ? The latest 4.5 or the older 4.0.
I recently installed the 4.5 on my SMP system and have been having system
freezes happening at least once a day.
On 11-Nov-98 Rich Harran. wrote:
> My Debian system just crashed. This has never happened before, which is
>
Quoting John Maheu ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> Hardware problems can pop up any time. I had to use a ps/2 mouse for a
> month and I found X would lock up occasionally. However, I could telnet
> in and kill X. It may have been a problem with gpm. Once I switched
> back to a Logitech serial mouse everythi
"Rich Harran." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Wed, 11 Nov 1998, Rich Harran wrote:
>
> > J.H.M. Dassen (Ray) wrote:
> > >
> > > On Wed, Nov 11, 1998 at 04:46:29PM +, Rich Harran. wrote:
> > > > My Debian system just crashed.
> > > [description]
> > >
> > > It sounds a lot like it may have
Hardware problems can pop up any time. I had to use a ps/2 mouse for a
month and I found X would lock up occasionally. However, I could telnet
in and kill X. It may have been a problem with gpm. Once I switched
back to a Logitech serial mouse everything was fine.
The point is you can have a hardwar
On Wed, Nov 11, 1998 at 04:46:29PM +, Rich Harran. wrote:
> My Debian system just crashed. This has never happened before, which is
> one of the things I like about Linux.
> My questions:
>
> Is there a problem with my hardware (it's quite old)?
> Was there a problem with Linux
On Wed, 11 Nov 1998, Rich Harran wrote:
> J.H.M. Dassen (Ray) wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, Nov 11, 1998 at 04:46:29PM +, Rich Harran. wrote:
> > > My Debian system just crashed.
> > [description]
> >
> > It sounds a lot like it may have been just a crash of the X server. Is your
> > machine on a n
On Wed, Nov 11, 1998 at 04:46:29PM +, Rich Harran. wrote:
> My Debian system just crashed.
[description]
It sounds a lot like it may have been just a crash of the X server. Is your
machine on a network? Could you still access it from the network?
Ray
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My Debian system just crashed. This has never happened before, which is
one of the things I like about Linux.
I've got a pretty standard Hamm system, and I was running X with emacs
(20), xmix, and netscape, with a navigator and mail window open. I went
on a webpage I've visited many times before
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